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Himeko destroyed Awai, Ryuuka got serious and now we have got this!

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Jan 8, 2013 7:05 PM
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This has to be the gayest match in Saki, so far.


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Jan 11, 2013 9:47 PM
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:O This is so amazzzing. Shiraitodai in last and all of them are not even 10,000 pt. apart from each other. It's getting intense. *-* When's Shizu going to show her true power? Hasn't won a hand at all yet :(

Jan 12, 2013 9:06 AM
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:O This is so amazzzing. Shiraitodai in last and all of them are not even 10,000 pt. apart from each other. It's getting intense. *-* When's Shizu going to show her true power? Hasn't won a hand at all yet :(

Achiga is in last, not Shiraitodai

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rederoin said:
Takei_Hisa said:
:O This is so amazzzing. Shiraitodai in last and all of them are not even 10,000 pt. apart from each other. It's getting intense. *-* When's Shizu going to show her true power? Hasn't won a hand at all yet :(

Achiga is in last, not Shiraitodai
rederoin said:
Takei_Hisa said:
:O This is so amazzzing. Shiraitodai in last and all of them are not even 10,000 pt. apart from each other. It's getting intense. *-* When's Shizu going to show her true power? Hasn't won a hand at all yet :(

Achiga is in last, not Shiraitodai

I was referring to Ksa's picture. It shows that Achiga has 99,200 and Shiraitodai has 97,300...

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Takei_Hisa said:
rederoin said:
Takei_Hisa said:
:O This is so amazzzing. Shiraitodai in last and all of them are not even 10,000 pt. apart from each other. It's getting intense. *-* When's Shizu going to show her true power? Hasn't won a hand at all yet :(

Achiga is in last, not Shiraitodai
rederoin said:
Takei_Hisa said:
:O This is so amazzzing. Shiraitodai in last and all of them are not even 10,000 pt. apart from each other. It's getting intense. *-* When's Shizu going to show her true power? Hasn't won a hand at all yet :(

Achiga is in last, not Shiraitodai

I was referring to Ksa's picture. It shows that Achiga has 99,200 and Shiraitodai has 97,300...

Thats not the final score from this chapter though.

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rederoin said:
Takei_Hisa said:
rederoin said:
Takei_Hisa said:
:O This is so amazzzing. Shiraitodai in last and all of them are not even 10,000 pt. apart from each other. It's getting intense. *-* When's Shizu going to show her true power? Hasn't won a hand at all yet :(

Achiga is in last, not Shiraitodai
rederoin said:
Takei_Hisa said:
:O This is so amazzzing. Shiraitodai in last and all of them are not even 10,000 pt. apart from each other. It's getting intense. *-* When's Shizu going to show her true power? Hasn't won a hand at all yet :(

Achiga is in last, not Shiraitodai

I was referring to Ksa's picture. It shows that Achiga has 99,200 and Shiraitodai has 97,300...

Thats not the final score from this chapter though.

yeah...i realize that now. I hope Achiga makes a nice comeback :)

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Awai is getting serious!

Go go go double riichi spam, you go girl!

p.s: Sukoyan knew that Awai's yaku might not only be double riichi, so she might have ippatsu tsumo... or did rinshan. And probably kan dora/ura dora hits. :D

By the way, it's 1st half, south 4th round... :D
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So now that Ryuuka is tripping balls and is seeing a fairy of her dead girlfriend and the monkey has been doing nothing, i've been thinking who is most likely to advance if plot armour is not included(As there is no way to predict that).



Himeko already has a counted yakuman in the 3th south round for the final hanchan of the semi's because of her(and Mairu's) telepathic BDSM mahjong power(which puts her at +57600 points gained)
So effectively the scores look this at the moment, seeing as so far there has been no way of stopping that power :

Shindouji(assuming its a tsumo) :
141400(-0)
Senriyama :
98100(-43300)(-51300 if dealer during the 3th south round)
Shiraitodai :
84300(-57100)(-65100 if dealer during the 3th south round)
Achiga :
84200(-57200)(-65200 if dealer during the 3th south round)

We all know Awai's rapetrain will hit in the next chapter, so her overtaking Himeko is expected. The other 2 however don't have any monster-powers and are very far behind Shindouji.
Achiga might advance for plot reasons, but I don't see the monkey overtaking such a huge point gap. So assuming Himeko plays defensive for the rest of the game, i'd say they have a pretty good chance of advancing. No offence to Achiga, but they are least skilled/gay school in the Side A semi finals.

In short :
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You're forgetting that that is basically all the points Shindouji is going to get. So far Himeko has only pulled off one hand without her duo effect special ability, and that was a cheap one. So, other than that yakuman on the second to last hand, they can basically be written off from getting any more. By the time of the yakuman, Shindouji will almost certainly be in last. Given that, it really isn't outside the realms of possibility for whoever wins the last hand to claim 2nd place.

And again with the "we don't know Shizu's ability yet so she must be weak" thing? I'm getting tired of that. To be honest, though, she's going to have to win a hand soon. Otherwise she'll find herself in difficulty - she needs to be above Shindouji before the yakuman. If she gets through despite not winning a hand before the last one of the match then that would be lame.
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You're forgetting that that is basically all the points Shindouji is going to get. So far Himeko has only pulled off one hand without her duo effect special ability, and that was a cheap one. So, other than that yakuman on the second to last hand, they can basically be written off from getting any more. By the time of the yakuman, Shindouji will almost certainly be in last. Given that, it really isn't outside the realms of possibility for whoever wins the last hand to claim 2nd place.

But im not forgetting that, the point is that she really far ahead at this point. She will not doubt be overtaken by Awai, but i'm not so sure about the others. But the others aren't going to have a lot of chances of gaining points now that Awai's rapetrain will start, sure i'd say Ryuuka and fairy toki still have a good chance, but Shizu? Doubt it, she will need to get a lot of big hands to get in 2nd at this point. Although this theory doesn't take plot armour into account.

Then again, i'm sure ritz already planned out who is going to win anyway. But I can always hope..

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rederoin said:
kuuderes_shadow said:
You're forgetting that that is basically all the points Shindouji is going to get. So far Himeko has only pulled off one hand without her duo effect special ability, and that was a cheap one. So, other than that yakuman on the second to last hand, they can basically be written off from getting any more. By the time of the yakuman, Shindouji will almost certainly be in last. Given that, it really isn't outside the realms of possibility for whoever wins the last hand to claim 2nd place.

But im not forgetting that, the point is that she really far ahead at this point. She will not doubt be overtaken by Awai, but i'm not so sure about the others. But the others aren't going to have a lot of chances of gaining points now that Awai's rapetrain will start, sure i'd say Ryuuka and fairy toki still have a good chance, but Shizu? Doubt it, she will need to get a lot of big hands to get in 2nd at this point. Although this theory doesn't take plot armour into account.

Then again, i'm sure ritz already planned out who is going to win anyway. But I can always hope..

;_;

ahh..well, during Achiga's training with the other schools, Koromo did say to Saki that Achiga's taishou was someone she'd have to look out for. So surely...she must have something up her sleeve, right?

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And again with the "we don't know Shizu's ability yet so she must be weak" thing? I'm getting tired of that. To be honest, though, she's going to have to win a hand soon.


To put it mildly. The match is almost half over, Himeko still has some big guns, Ryuuka has two Toki spoilers left and Awai just went full Elder God. On the other side we have our supposed protagonist who did nothing for the last 1000 pages. No matter how Shizu is going to win at this point, I'll call bullshit. She will either barely scrape by with one big hand while Awai and Himeko are busy with each other or pull a Deus Ex Machina super power at this point. Honestly, Achiga won't lose but they should. A last second victory for the climax with some skill we've never seen before is cheap storytelling.
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We can be pretty sure that Shizu has some kind of ability. Look at how Koromo talked about her to Saki. Look at how Akado and Ako talked about warming her up before her match.
Sure we haven't seen it yet, but it's obvious that it's there.

Perhaps it even NEEDS her to start out badly in order to activate?

To be honest, I think it's being held back to be properly explored in the finals. After all, there will need to be some things to explore there, and we'll have seen all 20 participants in one manga or another before then.

If that's the case then the demands of the plot is not so much what will pull Achiga through, as is what is misleading some people into thinking that Shizu is weak.
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Damn plot amor, Shindouji and Shiraitodai/Senriyama for the finals would be better.
Achiga barely did something interesting in the whole semi final it was like if Mako were playing in all the matches!

Maybe Awai's rapetrain can stop the Hime-Mairu combo, that would give more chances to Achigggg.

It was an awesome chapter.
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1st player:
Most effective: Teru
Most useless: Kuro (although Kirame lost more points)

2nd player:
Most effective: Yuu
Most useless: Izumi

3rd player:
Most effective: Sera
Most useless: Hitomi

4th player:
Most effective: Mairu
Most useless: Seiko

So from the first four rounds each school has been the most effective once and most useless once. So there is no school that stands out as being superior or inferior to the others.
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1st player:
Most effective: Teru
Most useless: Kuro (although Kirame lost more points)

2nd player:
Most effective: Yuu
Most useless: Izumi

3rd player:
Most effective: Sera
Most useless: Hitomi

4th player:
Most effective: Mairu
Most useless: Seiko

So from the first four rounds each school has been the most effective once and most useless once. So there is no school that stands out as being superior or inferior to the others.

yayyy. someone else understands that Achiga hasn't lost all hope, and that Ritz won't just GIVE Shizu some amazing power at the end. The only thing we can do now is wait though -.- Show some power SHIZU.

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rederoin said:
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You're forgetting that that is basically all the points Shindouji is going to get. So far Himeko has only pulled off one hand without her duo effect special ability, and that was a cheap one. So, other than that yakuman on the second to last hand, they can basically be written off from getting any more. By the time of the yakuman, Shindouji will almost certainly be in last. Given that, it really isn't outside the realms of possibility for whoever wins the last hand to claim 2nd place.

But im not forgetting that, the point is that she really far ahead at this point. She will not doubt be overtaken by Awai, but i'm not so sure about the others. But the others aren't going to have a lot of chances of gaining points now that Awai's rapetrain will start, sure i'd say Ryuuka and fairy toki still have a good chance, but Shizu? Doubt it, she will need to get a lot of big hands to get in 2nd at this point. Although this theory doesn't take plot armour into account.

Then again, i'm sure ritz already planned out who is going to win anyway. But I can always hope..

;_;

ahh..well, during Achiga's training with the other schools, Koromo did say to Saki that Achiga's taishou was someone she'd have to look out for. So surely...she must have something up her sleeve, right?

It seems she was talking about Shizu's "never give up" attitude, it could be something else but so far so signs of it have been shown.



To be honest, I think it's being held back to be properly explored in the finals. After all, there will need to be some things to explore there, and we'll have seen all 20 participants in one manga or another before then.

If that's the case then the demands of the plot is not so much what will pull Achiga through, as is what is misleading some people into thinking that Shizu is weak.

I'm not sure if I remember correctly, but shindouji so far has had the least screen time(while achiga had the most pre-semi finals and Senriyama had the most during the semi's). This could either mean she's saving them for the finals, or because they are going to drop out so she didn't bother giving them that many screen-time.

Although in terms of skill, I would put Achiga last. Sera, Toki, Ryuuka, Mairu and Himeko(if she's playing on the same team as Mairu) are all more powerful than any of the Achiga's


Although if anything, I think Ritz will select whatever school will make the most interesting match-ups. Giving priority to the captains match is obvious, while the sergeant match will have the lowest priority(just look at how short those matches always are in the main manga).


In my opinion, Shizu does not provide a interesting match-up. I'd say Himeko would provide the most interesting match-up in this case, unless Mairu gets destroyed by Nodoka(but we can't know that before hand).

Having the final match of the team-tournement be between 3 monsters(if frenchie or Nelly of rinkai are in the Captains position) and a pseudo-monster would make one-hell of a match-up.

For the vanguard it'd be Toki, but I don't really see any of the vanguard players being be-able to stand against Teru(Be it side A or B).

For the lieutenant, it would obviously be Sera(former Ace). This is a rather obvious one.

For the vice-captain, It'd have to be Himeko, with Nodoka going against Seiko she would need to have some competition, and Himeko being one the strongest non-occult players, she would be the best fit for this.

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We never saw Shizu fight and you are seriously saying she's weak? There's a reason why most of her games were skipped. There's a reason why Akado chose to put her in the captain match, where most team send their ace

I see two options for that Yakuman:
-Awai will destroy it before it happens, if she can't do at least that much she'll be destroyed by Saki in the final and it seem like she really want to stop Shindouji.
-It will hit Achiga and make the game seemingly impossible for them to win.

Either way Shizu will be the one that'll have the last word. Either she'll shut down Awai after everyone are saying it's impossible to beat her or either she'll somehow make it to second place even with a huge score difference in her way.

Shiraitodai will make it for final for sure, Ritz care about all the little detail he/she put in everything related to Saki. Since we've seen Teru vs Yuuki in the last episode of the anime it's pretty much like if Ritz said 'Shiraitodai WILL make it to the final'

Also this is a shounen, you can't expect Achiga to lose before anything is even resolved. They didn't come to the national for fun, they came to the national to play Nodaka. Whether they win or not against Kiyosumi, they will not lose before
they reach the final.

I still believe Shizu is a 'god killer'. The stronger her opponent is, the stronger she will be able to overcome the situation.
If power are truly a reflection of the player's soul this would embody well Shizuno's will to not give up as well as give Achiga a terrible weapon for the final.
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We never saw Shizu fight and you are seriously saying she's weak? There's a reason why most of her games were skipped. There's a reason why Akado chose to put her in the captain match, where most team send their ace

I see two options for that Yakuman:
-Awai will destroy it before it happens, if she can't do at least that much she'll be destroyed by Saki in the final and it seem like she really want to stop Shindouji.
-It will hit Achiga and make the game seemingly impossible for them to win.

Either way Shizu will be the one that'll have the last word. Either she'll shut down Awai after everyone are saying it's impossible to beat her or either she'll somehow make it to second place even with a huge score difference in her way.

Shiraitodai will make it for final for sure, Ritz care about all the little detail he/she put in everything related to Saki. Since we've seen Teru vs Yuuki in the last episode of the anime it's pretty much like if Ritz said 'Shiraitodai WILL make it to the final'

Also this is a shounen, you can't expect Achiga to lose before anything is even resolved. They didn't come to the national for fun, they came to the national to play Nodaka. Whether they win or not against Kiyosumi, they will not lose before
they reach the final.

I still believe Shizu is a 'god killer'. The stronger her opponent is, the stronger she will be able to overcome the situation.
If power are truly a reflection of the player's soul this would embody well Shizuno's will to not give up as well as give Achiga a terrible weapon for the final.

You have some good points there :3 I really hope to see Shizu's monstrous power in the next chapter.The biggest problem right now is that yakuman. Will look forward to that.

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lol people like rederon are the worst kinds of dutch weeaboos. glad most manga readers in Japan don't think like that.
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lol people like rederon are the worst kinds of weeaboos. glad most manga readers in japan don't think like that.


And people like you that have to use an alt account because you're too scared to insult him directly are the worst kind of people. Glad most people aren't like you.
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i think we will see some of shizu next chapter becouse of the last page in this chapter which show shizu and achiga coach
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Amazing chapter. This match is as awesome as expected. Now I'm waiting for Shizu to do something, as Kuromo said.
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i wonder if shizu going to do a big move which will restore to her lot of points
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Shizuno is not a strong player but she can disable the opponents power or she have some kind of stealing ability.
No idea just I guess.

Koromo told Saki before she should watch Achiga, next chapter we will see what Shizuno can do.

Too bad that Saki didn't watch Awai semi final match, sometimes it's feel like Awai power reminds of Koromo, but just a little.

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Well, it seemed like Akado already knew of Awai's "other power" and told Shizu beforehand.

Blackbird, your theory is pretty interesting :3 It's 11 more days till the next one come out..

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Ryuuka's power is so lulz but the scores are still too damn close. So much stuff happening in just one chapter.
Can't wait to finally see Shizuno in action.
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Shizuno certainly ended up in a interesting match and she wasn't very impressed but the girls she is playing against especially if you looked at Kuro's reaction when Awai made her move.
Looking forward to the next chapter something very interesting is going to happen from the looks of it.
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Yeah, Ryuuka+Toki seemed really just for laughs. On one hand it means that Ryuuka doesn't have any hax powers and is actually that good at mahjong, but also throwing in Toki-chan powers says that Ryuuka doesn't have a chance to win without haxing.

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