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Nov 28, 2015 3:30 AM
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Damn, another murder but this time also is symbolic with the roses and is even more painful with an arrow shot from the back. Ouch.

I gotta say, this case has taken on an almost personal level. I really hope Kindaichi knows what he's doing right about now. A lot of fingers pointed at Takao because of his potential identity :/
Stark700Nov 28, 2015 4:28 AM
Nov 28, 2015 9:26 AM
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Roses and fire ha.. let's see what may happen shall we...
My suspicion is the rose poet and sensei
Nov 28, 2015 10:56 AM
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From what they say at the end there, you can basically flip back through the episode and figure out who the killer is.
Nov 28, 2015 11:33 AM
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I really like how Takato wants to kill them but I can already see his sister dying or already being dead because he wouldn't really get caught now.
Nov 29, 2015 7:25 PM
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I went back and checked and only found one comment that sounded strange. The poet explaining how red roses meant "Pierce my heart" and that is what had happened when the only information she had was that yukata-lady had been pierced in the back. So it's either her or the photographer, since the photographer is looking way too suspicious to me. As for the sister, sensei is the one.
Nov 29, 2015 8:19 PM
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I am leaning towards the poet is the sister, while sensei or photographer is the culprit.
Dec 4, 2015 6:19 AM
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yhunata said:
I went back and checked and only found one comment that sounded strange. The poet explaining how red roses meant "Pierce my heart" and that is what had happened when the only information she had was that yukata-lady had been pierced in the back. So it's either her or the photographer, since the photographer is looking way too suspicious to me. As for the sister, sensei is the one.


There was some mistranslated parts in that scene of the episode. When Miyuki asked Kindaichi what happened, he replied "ダメだ、背中にボウガンの矢が刺さっていて" (Dame da, senaka ni bougan no ya ga sasatteite) which means "It's no good, there's a bolt sticking in her back." An arrow is shot from a bow, whereas a bolt is shot from a crossbow. You can google ボウガン and ボウガンの矢 to see for yourself.

The second mistranslated part is the one where the poet said about the meaning of red roses. She said "私を射止めて" (watashi o itomete) simply means "Shoot me dead/Pierce me." There was no explicit mentioning of "heart." However, in Japan they have a saying "ハートを射止める" (haato o itomeru) which means literally "to shoot someone's heart," and it usually have a romantic meaning of winning someone's heart.

Therefore, what the poet said was not something weird, even for the meaning of red roses.

As for the last murder or the one appeared in this episode, I think there is a trick to raise that missing part of Zenda's kimono to the window without being in the room. That explains the mess in the room. The culprit made it look like a fight to hide the trick. The bolt is stuck in her back meaning that it was a sneak attack, therefore cannot result in a fight like what Tatako commented.

Whenever I try to solve any Kindaichi mystery, I always assume one culprit. But for this one, there might be an accomplice. Let's say the sensei and the photographer. It is hinted that sensei has a sibling but I don't think it is Takato. Listen carefully to the part sensei and Takato talked about their past, you will see what I meant.

I am seriously trying to solve this before the answer episode come out :D

Dec 5, 2015 3:37 AM
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wow happyhippo ! Thanks for the explanation.
I read all the manga already, so I did not expect to be this entertained. Maybe Takato's charm power is just that great ^^
Jan 7, 2018 5:10 AM
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Hmm I can't find a good hint
I'm assuming the culprit is one of the three woman, it's just they're suspicious and my intuition said so xD
Maybe not the sensei, because she's the sister.. but who knows the least person you suspected is the one.. usually

Also the victim "fight".. it's usually not a fight.. it's just the killer made it look like that
Usually.. in detective thingy.. in anime xD
Probably when Kindaichi saw her "clothes" revealed, she already dead from the arrow
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I wonder if it's really either the Poet or the Teacher because they have cross marks.
That's quite daring to name themselves Rosenkreuz if that's the case.

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