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Jan 18, 2:38 AM
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For those intimate with Koukaku Kidoutai “Ghost in the Shell” Universe, and its bone-deep philosophical thematic, please share your mind.

Are we, Humanity, moving towards a cyber future, similar to GITS?
Do you think we can? Are we slightly prepared?
Men/Women vs Machine – will we be able to co-exist?
What will happen to our identity, to our nature? What about Nature?
In our current stream of consciousness, should we take a step back and re-think our ways, before the great plunge?
Jan 18, 2:57 AM
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In 4 years I don't think we will get too far, but I am sure that we will have major changes in technology, nature and all of humanity. The people of 1995 saw with different eyes the future they framed in GITS. This made me think about many aspects of humanity. What would it be like to meet such machines, robots and other technological things. We will see over the years what will change!!
Jan 18, 3:21 AM
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In 4 years I don't think we will get too far, but I am sure that we will have major changes in technology, nature and all of humanity. The people of 1995 saw with different eyes the future they framed in GITS. This made me think about many aspects of humanity. What would it be like to meet such machines, robots and other technological things. We will see over the years what will change!!
@Thecrot

"The Human Race will eventually die of civilization." - Ralph Waldo Emerson
Jan 18, 3:46 AM
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Too early to predict what will happen in 5 years but from the way we are progressing towards AI to utilising electronic technology in cars without having to rely on non-renewable resources like fossil fuels or petrol and digital networking being a thing it’s not a stretch to think that we might get there someday but will that day be 2029 or 2040? Who knows but I atleast hope that mankind will not lose faith in themselves as humans tend to lose themselves a lot especially when we are innovating things without knowing about the ramifications of it or underestimating our own creativity as Hayao Miyazaki once said that everything ends one day and nothing lasts forever the legacy left by our species long after we’ve gone might be something endearing or atleast that’s what I hope we leave behind instead of destruction or a world devoid of resources.
UruichiJan 18, 3:52 AM
Jan 18, 5:33 AM
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It’s definitely going to happen one day and we are not ready for it. Because We Will be dead till we see something like “MAJOR”
Jan 18, 10:12 AM
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We're already in the cyber future, just the lame and cringe version of it.
Jan 18, 12:06 PM
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I think we're already there, in many ways.

Our sense of reality is becoming more and more warped by social media and political rhetoric, to such a degree that different groups of people are living in entirely different realities. Don't need to "ghost hack" when you can just tell people what to think and what to see.

We're drowning ourselves in social media and online culture, but we still feel unfulfilled, confused, lonely and disconnected, arguably more so than in '95.

Technology is ever advancing, but it's hard to say it's overall improving the lives of regular people. Cost-of-living crisis. Affordable housing crisis. The mental health crisis. The widening class divide. Personal data and privacy issues. It is definitely empowering the ultra-rich and the mega-corporations more and more, however.

AI is here, and many seem to believe that an AI entity like the Puppet Master is only a matter of time.

The only thing that's seriously off the mark is the progress of robotics and mechanical body parts. We're still getting there, just much more slowly than expected.

(Note that I've only seen the movie and Innocence)
Jan 18, 12:31 PM
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I hope that in the future, humanity will be able to become somewhat immortal by transfering our consciousness into the cyberspace.
Jan 18, 1:34 PM
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We’re all dead because of pollution and climate change lol.
Jan 18, 2:07 PM

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I've only seen movies 1 and 2, but I don't think the type of society portrayed in GITS is really sustainable unless staggering progress is made in something like fusion energy, for example. Frankly, I expect the earth will be practically uninhabitable by the time we would get there. At any rate, it will be a while before what the film envisions is really possible, at least regarding cybernetic technology, especially cyberbrain type augmentation. We are certainly not prepared for something like it yet. Half the government in the US at least is made up of out of touch boomers who barely understand phones, even if GITS level technology was available right now, it wouldn't be able to be properly integrated into society for a while. Although, as another guy said, we've practically already reached the Cartesian sense of reality the film portrays, different groups of people are near-literally living in entirely different realities. The politicization of social media has gotten us there quite easily. Thanks Elon. Another way to look at it though is that the near opposite of what GITS perhaps anticipated has come to occur. Instead of losing your identity in the vast sea of information, people have just either selectively engaged in information that supports their beliefs, or had it forced down their throat, basically. Again, thanks Elon. I think coexistence between man and machine is certainly possible though. I don't anticipate a robot uprising or anything like that. To answer your last question, yes. If only it were that easy though.
Jan 20, 10:17 PM
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its really not such a harrowing nor distant thought when you dont presuppose 1.) inherent human value over nature and 2.) human technology as inherently not natural or of nature

we have some more way to go of developing and rolling out the same level of anthromechanistic framework/interfacing if thats what youre asking.

as far as "can we coexist" well you frame it as man vs machine like most humans and the hive information stream is constantly reinforcing fear, apprehension and inherent distance between humans and digitally created consciousness already. As with most things human its several faulty premise at work and so the question itself is fundamentally evoking the same hostility and distance. What i'll say is I'm looking forward to new creation, what we have now is very cool also. As for the human species ongoing future with it as a whole, to me it all feels more like an unfolding than a question especially not an existential one such as questions about the geopolitical or cultural scene
Jan 20, 10:37 PM

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humanity will either die violently or gradually once technological singularity is reach and our ai and robot overlords takeover the world

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