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| A lot of character focus on Gonda this episode. The idea of him trying to get married and start a family already sounds like a rushed idea but hey, that's he wants. A good reason too since he seems to want to build his own future. Felt like there was a decent amount of relationship dynamics from this episode, along with realism. |
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| Gon couldn't go for it at the right moment but he seems serious. I hope he will go through with it and find his happiness with Kaori since he seemed really serious when he found out she had a child. It seems Kaori also has some feeling but she also needs to put some work in she is also worried about her child. Things must be hard on both of them. |
ajw215799 said: Be warned, Crunchyroll has yet again uploaded this with faulty subtitles! Oh I thought the site I was using was playing up I didn't realise it was just Crunchyroll being useless and because of that I didn't understand a word but it seemed like a nice episode. |
| Anyone find a version with the correct English subs? |
| oh gosh Gonda... That was hitting him very hard. π I really wish both of them would end up together in the end. |
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| What a change of pace this episode brought—first, I was rooting for and laughing at how rushed Gonda was to get married, and then everything shifted when he learned the truth about Kaori. Gonda really is a great guy. It’s understandable that he got ahead of himself, wanting to date her with the intention of marriage (probably influenced by cultural reasons). His goal of building a loving family, considering his own didn’t work out when he was a child, is heartwarming. But he should have taken the time to truly get to know her first. Not many men would be willing to take on the responsibility of raising a child abandoned by another man along with the mother. To date a single mother, you have to understand it’s not just about you and her—it’s about all three of you. Gonda didn’t shy away from that. He recognized how much Kaori loved her son and knew he had the means to support them, but the issue isn’t just money. It’s the commitment he was ready to make without fully knowing her. If he had spent time getting to know her and then proposed, it would have made more sense. But jumping straight to marriage without that foundation—it’s a complicated situation, no doubt. |
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| Man, some random characters have more impact than the mains. I kinda suspected that she is a single mother ... Its all fun and games, until you realize the real weight of a marriage, and all that comes with it. Gonda-san seemed like a total goofball, nice to see he grew a little. And i hope he does not give up. |
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| Fuuuuuuuuck. This episode hit right in the feels. There wasn't much Rika or Takuya in this episode. The focus on Gonda kinda surprised me. And it was a good episode. Better than the episode with Shinshi. I wonder how he took the divorce... Why did he show up with blonde hair like a delinquent? Did he finally lose it? This episode made me sympathize with Gonda. It was good that he decided to deprioritize Komiya and search for a partner elsewhere. But in the end, he just ended up getting hurt... I hope he'll still somehow end up with Kaori. It's pretty obvious he screwed up because he wasn't prepared for the bomb she dropped. It'd be shitty if she didn't give him a second chance. At this point, I'm not sure what the show is trying to tell us about marriage. Almost all of the relationships Takuya is seeing lately are failed ones or have some weird complications. Seems like he's realizing how big of a responsibility marriage is. And he probably shouldn't have treated it as a joke with Rika. Feels bad for Takuya. He definitely took the "rejection" worse than Rika. Wonder how they're gonna reconcile. |
| Noooo! I can’t wait 1 week for the next EP! Hang in there Gon-chan!! |
| Me and the bad bitch I pulled by being an idol otaku.. That awkward moment when the side character’s ship has more depth and characterisation in one episode than the main couple in half a season. Who’s cutting onions in here? End of the episode had me in tears when I saw Gonda breakdown on the bridge. I was already a little on edge throughout the ep because of how down on himself and insecure Gonda is. Hate seeing great people belittle themselves and act as if they don’t have great things to offer the world. Gonda’s such a nice and pure soul. The sort of friend every guy needs. He and Kaori got on so well, I figured there had to be some catch and it ended up being the kid. Personally, I would’ve instantly said yes to Kaori when she asked if he still wanted to be with her knowing that. But I do respect that they played it out in a realistic manner. For a lot of people that would be a big concern and you’d really need to think before taking on that commitment so fair enough. It looks like Kaori didn’t delete their pics so hopefully my boy gets his happy ending β€οΈ |
Marinate1016Nov 21, 12:41 PM
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| "Master, you're not doing so hot" And poor Rika is having a worse time. Ache, Ache, Ache, and it ain't all in your body, Rika. The profile pics in my EVIL OVERLORD Dating App are a gas. Gonda, passing over your unseemly haste to propose, what your should have said is: "What a wonderful child; I bet he makes you really happy. What is his name? May I help carry his bag home?" |
| Lord Cruelty V "But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be" |
| I'm thinking Gonda and Kaori will eventually get together, especially since she didn't delete his photo. I'm hoping ponytail girl(did anyone else think for a second she was going to ask Gonda out instead?) took note of him bringing his bank statements with him, and passed it on to Kaori. If I was Takuya, I would've told Gonda it's an opportunity to give that little boy the happiness he didn't have when he was a kid. |
| "Genki is Life, Genki is Love" |
| I hope that they won’t leave this whole Gonda romance thing behind. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| In one episode, I am now more invested in Gonda & Karori getting together rather than the main couple. The same thing happened to me with my senpai is annoying. |
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Fuuuuuuuuck. This episode hit right in the feels.
There wasn't much Rika or Takuya in this episode. The focus on Gonda kinda surprised me. And it was a good episode. Better than the episode with Shinshi. I wonder how he took the divorce... Why did he show up with blonde hair like a delinquent? Did he finally lose it?
This episode made me sympathize with Gonda. It was good that he decided to deprioritize Komiya and search for a partner elsewhere. But in the end, he just ended up getting hurt... I hope he'll still somehow end up with Kaori. It's pretty obvious he screwed up because he wasn't prepared for the bomb she dropped. It'd be shitty if she didn't give him a second chance.
At this point, I'm not sure what the show is trying to tell us about marriage. Almost all of the relationships Takuya is seeing lately are failed ones or have some weird complications. Seems like he's realizing how big of a responsibility marriage is. And he probably shouldn't have treated it as a joke with Rika. Feels bad for Takuya. He definitely took the "rejection" worse than Rika. Wonder how they're gonna reconcile.
There wasn't much Rika or Takuya in this episode. The focus on Gonda kinda surprised me. And it was a good episode. Better than the episode with Shinshi. I wonder how he took the divorce... Why did he show up with blonde hair like a delinquent? Did he finally lose it?
This episode made me sympathize with Gonda. It was good that he decided to deprioritize Komiya and search for a partner elsewhere. But in the end, he just ended up getting hurt... I hope he'll still somehow end up with Kaori. It's pretty obvious he screwed up because he wasn't prepared for the bomb she dropped. It'd be shitty if she didn't give him a second chance.
At this point, I'm not sure what the show is trying to tell us about marriage. Almost all of the relationships Takuya is seeing lately are failed ones or have some weird complications. Seems like he's realizing how big of a responsibility marriage is. And he probably shouldn't have treated it as a joke with Rika. Feels bad for Takuya. He definitely took the "rejection" worse than Rika. Wonder how they're gonna reconcile.
0451 said: Shinshi. I wonder how he took the divorce... Why did he show up with blonde hair like a delinquent? Did he finally lose it? Women changing hairstyle and/or color is a common trope (irl too) that translates to "having moved on from a relationship". Now, Shishi ain't a woman but they probably used the trope for the same vibe with different gender. Imo. |
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| This is the most emotionally charged of this series so far. That line about about Kaori having faith in him, and then he "flinched" moved me because I as put in that position twice. Gonda really rushed the relationship by proposing to date and then eventually marry. This is probably due to his character feeling "left out" in the relationship game which possible prompted him to want to marry the first girl that gave him the attention. But even if that's the case the best option is to ask to date her first before fully committing into a long term relationship. He was not really giving her an easy out option by proposing to her that way without making her look shallow. I almost thought this was the case when she walked past him without answering his question. Then came the long trip to the daycare center where the caveat was shown. Damn. He is just being human by not providing an immediate answer. That decision takes a long time to make and it looks like he is fully committed to it by bringing his bank statement with him. I hope that the series explore this relationship more in the upcoming episode, and from some hints it looks like this relationship will have a good ending. (I hope). |
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| Shinshi looks like he's bounced back...even if it might be more like a mid-life crisis with bleaching his hair. I'm guessing his divorce went through after all. I'm unfamiliar with dating apps in Japan, but I assume they're just as filled with men pretending to be women scammers and other catfishing schemes. Gonda seems to have gotten lucky. That idol-fan Kaori was quite the beauty. But if all they talk about is idols and nothing else, I don't really see the relationship going anywhere beyond simply fellow idol fans, like groupies of a fanclub. Gonda is getting way ahead of himself...already thinking about popping the question after one freaking date. It's one thing to think it, and another to seriously do it. I'd be really creeped out if I were Kaori. Takuya should have done everything to stop him from making a fool of himself and ruining something good. But since it's him after all, it's not too surprising Takuya gave bad advice of encouragement considering he has zero real-world experience in dating. So Kaori was a single mom at 28, eh. Probably had her son in her early to mid 20s. But now that Gonda has already come this far, he may as well go for broke and commit all the way...it's what I would have done if I were in his shoes; of course, I would have never put myself in that position in the first place. I'm glad Gonda has learned from this experience...not everything works out in the end, sometimes in heartache. I hope it works out for both him and Kaori in the future. Overall, a great episode with a mature subject matter, not just the usual shenanigans of the fake marriage of the main couple. |
| Don't do my boy Gon-chan like this!!! He had a perfectly reasonable reaction and was ready to step up. crying |
| Well, he is fortunate enough to be hoping for a second chance. Think of all the pitiful mortals in this world who never had a first chance. |
| Lord Cruelty V "But my Dreams they're not as empty, as my conscience seems to be" |
| Wow a whole episode that was basically not even about the MCs, except a little. I feel bad for Hando, he was laying out his sincere heart to her, and she in return thrust on his shoulders a huge responsibility, which would make most guys surprised since they didn’t discuss it and cause them to think the situation through, it felt kind of mean the way she did it, putting him on the spot like that. And he tried very soon to meet up with her, to fix the situation and explain what he wanted to do, but she doesn’t even try to hear his answer, she sends a friend instead, another mean thing to do, even the friend saw how serious he was with his papers on the table, she couldn’t help but feel bad for him. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
| Last week's episode won't be resolved this week, but this episode shows the reality that marriage is not something to take lightly. Gon was head over hills for Kaori, but he has realised how he is inadequate for her. I don't know if we'll see Kaori again but....sad. |
| Waking up sober and realizing that you been confessed too has to be the most awkward thing. Funny that Ohara was in a worst state though. Damm spending 60k on a dating app is crazy. Its nice that Gonda found a fellow fan that shares his passion. Being a single mom is a heavy responsibility so its no wonder Kaori's cautious. It would be nice to see a happy ending come out of Gonda and Kaori's bond though. |
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| Since I ideally like following and maximum focus being spent on the main characters, especially when it's two or a very few main characters, especially with some sort of romantic dynamic at play, I usually detest in series like that when side characters randomly hijack an episode out of nowhere and dominate most or all of the screentime in it (regardless of it here all being connected thematically to the broader story about uncertainty of romantic endeavors and trials and tribulations of modern romance and all that). But here, I honestly cannot say that I hate it. Admittedly was a little disappointed and turned off at first when it became apparent very quickly after the first few minutes of the episode that they weren't going to move into really right away continuing and building upon the storyline from last episode, especially with the the serious Honjouji scarcity. But at the same time the main characters and main plot itself don't seem...all that important? So it comes across as less of a big deal to me when they want to spin their wheels in place for however long and take detours. Don't get me wrong - that sounds like a criticism against or some dig at the show, but it really isn't. I just mean that the main plot is in many respects so low stakes and the two leads have such a lack of any sense of urgency even to speak, having to psychologically prep and internally work themselves up to even engaging in brief civil and polite conversations of a few minutes long apiece, that it seems unimportant if we divert to hang out with the supporting characters instead as even when Honjouji and Takuya are both onscreen together, it's not uncommon for very little to no real progress to be made anyway. I guess that the only real "stakes" (well, besides the open question of whether they'll have any form of real romance flourish which would require them both opening their minds to dispel their self-inferiority and inadequacy complexes and opening their mouths to each other more, but I'm talking a time-sensitive one) is the now-less-than-a-year countdown to the date when employees from their office are supposed to be selected to depart for Anchorage. And whether anyone in their office will still care or be talking about their "marriage" by that point, whether they couldn't keep the ruse going or whether it will cease even being a ruse and become something authentic or closer to the truth by then than it is now. But it's treated as such a distant tertiary concern at this point it's whatever. |
WatchTillTandavaNov 22, 2:05 AM
| This could genuinely be such a masterpiece if not for Gonda to get hanged liked that in the end. Its a trend in this show which is supposed to be about marriage but it always giving this unfulfilled and sad endings everytime. I get what are they trying to achieve but it's not satisfying. My boi literally hit jackpot with Kaori. They had great chemistry in 5 minutes compared to 8 episodes of main duo and both seemed happy together. But when Kaori secret was revealed him flinching was very natural although kinda frustrating. And even after few days when he was ready now Kaori didn't gave him the chance. Ik she didn't forget/rejected him persay but I doubt she even gonna come back here. It would be such a shame and waste of such good side plot. I hope I am wrong. Gonda is insecure and down on himself while Kaori struggles as single mother. They clearly like eachother and Gonda was ready too even if he jumped the gun.  They deserve happy ending. |
WaterMageNov 22, 3:13 AM
| My God this episode's ending was a huge gut punch that I unfortunately can relate to. |
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@0451 the oofy doofy won't get a 2nd chance because he was delusional they only 1 meeting she learned all she needed to know
| @SoulReaper85 you couldn't be more wrong if you tried |
| poor Gonda... but I feel like he is really serious about Kaori, so I hope this don't ends like that for him... I mean, she dropped a "bomb" on him, he would naturally be shocked at first, but don't mean he isn't serious about wanting to marry her... at least give dude some time to process (but irl, I would be more worried for Kaori, having a dude wanting to marry her 4 days after meeting each other, being single mother or not ^^' ) anyway... what was that random scene with the guy in the office being blonde? lol... they shown us, and completely ignore for the rest of the episode |
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@billybub I'm a Manga reader so I know, Bro choked and won't get another chance with her and he has is his money, he's not chad or looks
| @SoulReaper85 You're a manga reader? Really? Might I direct your attention to then. |
billybubNov 22, 6:51 AM
| Responsibility is a massive word and Gondou-san got a spoonful of that here. Got to feel for him and Kaori-san too. I was expecting development with the main couple but hey, I didn’t mind this one but either! Maybe it’ll provide the necessary impetus to move on from that stalemate from last episode’s climax. |
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| There is a lot that can be said about this episode's story, but I feel like one interesting aspect nobody's mentioned here yet is how Gonda's clearly not the only one who rushed into a relationship without knowing enough about the other person. I feel like Kaori might actually be seeing a lot of her past self in Gonda, in a way. In all likelihood, she used to be the same way, rushing into romance with the guy who seemed perfect for her. I think that might be why she didn't delete the pictures in the end. She didn't commit to "punishing" him for his naivety, because she sympathized with it from experience. In fact, my interpretation is that the reason she didn't meet him after that despite him asking was because… she feared she was still that person. That if he told her he did mean it after all and that he was serious about her - she would trust him. She would trust another man she didn't know enough about. My impression is she trusts Gonda quite a bit, es evidenced by letting him meet her son - what she doesn't trust is her own judgment in men, which is quite understandable. People here claim the ending was sad, but I see a ton of hope presented here, in the form of some serious first-steps for both of them to grow as people. It's kinda unfortunate that "main characters' relationship is so bland in comparison" sentiment seems so popular… I understand it, romance anime being reluctant to let anything romantic, or even relationship-y, happen is frustrating… But maybe it's just me, these two are so delightfully autistic in the most relatable way. And the best thing about this story, IMO, is that it isn't just about two characters falling in love with one another - it's primarily about two characters learning about relationships and trying to figure out if they COULD feasibly fall in love in the first place. They are not, as countless other romance protagonists, simply inexperienced, shy, awkward and desperate - they are genuinely and truly not interested in romance at all. Not even avert to it after some bad experiences, which is just another common romance protagonist trope. Romance for them is like, say, politics for many other people. Yeah, tons of people talk about it all the time and sure, it's technically an important aspect of life, that's true, but they just don't care, it's not for them. And then they are forced to dip their toes into that part of reality (by faking taking a deep dive into it) and are now learning a lot about that big meaty chunk of life they disregarded completely until now. That's a great premise (that very much necessitates strange, asocial protagonists), but better yet, a whole lot of what they're learning is negative. They're learning a whole lot about both the necessary and the potential struggles that come with sharing your life with someone else - for them, even coworkers throwing them a congratulatory party is a big anxiety pill to swallow. So obviously, the more they see, the less they'd want to actually get together… right? Oh, what's this? Despite their inner monologues indeed confirming how much of a pain this romance thing seems to be, they still can't help thinking about the other with a whole lotta "maybes"? Well, color me impressed, that's a brilliant way to show the story's "marriage will make your life hell objectively - but do it right and it'll feel like heaven" theme. |
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| Gonda is such a nice fella. Hope things will work out for him in the end. |
Vampire_LordNov 22, 1:27 PM
| Disappointment (´γοΌΏγο½) |
| Excellent show as usual. All this expression with characters you would least expect to see it. Simply great execution and writing. |
| I like how the side characters in this anime have more intrigue to them than our main cast lol |
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