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| I don't like this Anime. The characters are bland, the story is bland, the world is bland. There's nothing of interest here. It could have been saved with some comedy, but there's none. Only finished it to add it to my pile of regret I guess. I give it a: Waste of time / 10 |
| Overall fine show where I wish they did more comedy and also toned down the dialogue as it kinda became boring to see Leo converse with the rest for the majority of the episodes. |
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Robmo said: Not a bad ending but it would have better if he just died. The sacrifice. Once the Anti-Lep spell and the attack, boom dead. More drama I dont think that would have worked out in any way ... the source material would be incredibly short then. |
KANLen09 said: Even though this is the 3rd show in the "Realist Hero"-inspired series, this one feels different, and still yet in a decent-to-good-way. Wait what, is this a franchise of something, what's the name of the other first two shows? |
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Noisrev said: Wait what, is this a franchise of something, what's the name of the other first two shows? No, it isn't. I have no idea where they got that idea from since neither the studio nor original creator are involved in any other 'hero' works. It is part of a mixed media project, but the other projects all appear to be variations on this. |
| we're back to square one, any other series first episode would start with this series episode 12. Leo is employed under queen Echudna finally and quiet heroing. So far this series has been kind of an L to watch mainly because not much actually happened and there's no villain. That could also be it's strength, i personally thought it would have a better storyline for its mal rating. |
| Even though I read the manga this was an enjoyable watch. The animation isn't great but the chara designs were done well. Not a lot of memorable tracks either but the plot was decent. The next arc with his brother and shutina disciple is good too bad it isn't getting animated. Prob no s2 either since it's was kind of average. Good va cast though |
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| I was about to skip this becuse of comments and reviews, but I was surprised it was enjoyable to me. I wouldn't say this is awesome, but it was enough for me to watch all of the episodes without getting bored. Hoping for Leo's happiness. |
| To sum it up badly, he needed friends who can outlive humans. Enjoyed it, glad I didn't skipped this one. +the ending song "de messiah" is now in my playlist! |
BeguniDec 19, 2022 7:09 PM
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mkzxwing said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: dog shit show. Like everything this season. So she needed the stone to fix her own world? So why didn't leo just power through and steal it from the humans? He is obviously powerful enough to do it. Why would he even need to steal it, he's shown to be able to MAKE them at will lol (he replicated the demonheart project and then destroyed it before using it) Hey I know it’s like half a year later and all, but I really felt compelled to tell you this. I really didn’t expect anyone to miss this detail, but he quite literally says he made them without the akashic engines (stones). |
amlg said: And then just as we're about to end Leo... Echidna decide to just step on him and everyone else kicks in too. LOL And then Leo was finally able to disable the programmed order that he couldn't or hasn't thought of doing for almost 3000 years. (TBH, I think he actually couldn't as he had to turn off all the other programs he mentioned, but after turning those off, he hasn't gotten to try and turning this one off as we've seen that he was still under the order and tried making his own villains when the new portal just appeared and he went to fight the Demons) All the while Leo remember the old Imp's words from 3000 years ago. And Leo decide to officially become a member of the Demon Army. And everything went back to "normal" as they continue to rebuild the Demon Army. ___ ___ ___ Tho... what exactly happens with the Demon Portal that was closing? Did Leo rebuild it so it stays open? And how exactly are they going to unite the Human and Demon World? Since we've already seen that majority if not all Humans hates the Demons, not to mention the Hero... I really doubt they'll negotiate anything with the hero they EXILED and wants to KILL... So having Leo as the "mediator" between the Human and Demons is purely pointless to begin with... LOL At this point, they should really just invade the Human world and take the other stone... especially with Leo's "protect Humans" order now disabled, he doesn't have to "save Humans" anymore. Plus, are they going to take the stone back to the Demon World? Also... Leo mentioned they need a manual for the stone... but... we saw Leo literally reconstruct the Super Human machine that was destroyed after 3000 years of time (before Leo decide to destroy it again)... couldn't Leo just reconstruct a part of the Machine (aka the Computer) to retrieve the stone's manual files? Cause I am pretty sure in order to reconstruct the Super Humans, he would also have to make new stones for them... thus meaning the Super Human machine has the ability to create more stones. Which means... Leo could technically just mass produce stones for both the Human and Demon world... there was no real need for all this fighting and Drama, LOL ___ ___ ___ Well... guess some of the questions will have to wait til season 2 (if they're planning one...) ___ ___ ___ Also, some ppls mentioned that Leo would be alone after a while, maybe, but remember that Demons lives a lot longer, so long that they still remember the "Machine Age" (previous Humans) that pretty much all current Humans have already forgotten. That means it'll be thousands of years before Leo is alone again. Just wanted to address two parts of your post: Leo being an ambassador: Leo was exiled due to the public image he was starting to be given. We can see that he is still potentially seen in a good light by some humans: The King makes it PAINFULLY CLEAR that he still puts his utmost trust in Leo regardless of what people thought of him. This doesn’t make it impossible for Leo to try to create connections with humanity. Yes, any alliance shouldn’t be easy to obtain, but in this case it is by no means undoable. Creating Akashic Engines (Philosopher Stones): Leo clearly states that he recreated the demonheart series cast as carbon copies except for the fact that he could not use akashic engines in them. This is obvious proof that he has no way of creating them, otherwise he would have done this at literally any point in the story. |
FluffyExpressJan 13, 2023 1:00 AM
FluffyExpress said: mkzxwing said: Why would he even need to steal it, he's shown to be able to MAKE them at will lol (he replicated the demonheart project and then destroyed it before using it) Hey I know it’s like half a year later and all, but I really felt compelled to tell you this. I really didn’t expect anyone to miss this detail, but he quite literally says he made them without the akashic engines (stones). Don't remember that, but even if he did it'd make no sense cuz how the hell was he gonna fight them if they don't have the power source..? Its like saying you made a car to drive but you don't have the fuel and don't know how to make it. |
mkzxwing said: FluffyExpress said: Hey I know it’s like half a year later and all, but I really felt compelled to tell you this. I really didn’t expect anyone to miss this detail, but he quite literally says he made them without the akashic engines (stones). Don't remember that, but even if he did it'd make no sense cuz how the hell was he gonna fight them if they don't have the power source..? Its like saying you made a car to drive but you don't have the fuel and don't know how to make it. I agree with you on that, which is why I believe they wouldn’t even function outside of controlled life inside a tube. I feel at this point it’s noticeable Leo is going crazy for purpose and is grasping at straws. Leo’s mental state made him desperate and he created the heroes on impulse. He then talks to the tube heroes right after their conception and breaks down in tears, and we know none of them can even hear him at that stage. Breaking away from that point, everything he did in the entire show was all so he could just throw his life away because he is brainwashed to believe he has no purpose other than saving humanity. No one fixes insanity without help, that’s why it took SOMEBODY to tell him that he can actually be someone different. I believe that the psychology of many main characters in more than just this show is often overlooked by viewers. Leo has been listening to crazy frog for 3000 years and I couldn’t take it for 3 days. Anyone like that will never have a sound mind when pushed to the brink. I understand my statement here is an interpretation, and we all interpret things differently, but I always test anything I can before I write something off. There are many lines that come off as a tell that led me to interpret the story in the light that I did. |
mkzxwing said: FluffyExpress said: Hey I know it’s like half a year later and all, but I really felt compelled to tell you this. I really didn’t expect anyone to miss this detail, but he quite literally says he made them without the akashic engines (stones). Don't remember that, but even if he did it'd make no sense cuz how the hell was he gonna fight them if they don't have the power source..? Its like saying you made a car to drive but you don't have the fuel and don't know how to make it. FluffyExpress said: mkzxwing said: Don't remember that, but even if he did it'd make no sense cuz how the hell was he gonna fight them if they don't have the power source..? Its like saying you made a car to drive but you don't have the fuel and don't know how to make it. I agree with you on that, which is why I believe they wouldn’t even function outside of controlled life inside a tube. I feel at this point it’s noticeable Leo is going crazy for purpose and is grasping at straws. Leo’s mental state made him desperate and he created the heroes on impulse. He then talks to the tube heroes right after their conception and breaks down in tears, and we know none of them can even hear him at that stage. Breaking away from that point, everything he did in the entire show was all so he could just throw his life away because he is brainwashed to believe he has no purpose other than saving humanity. No one fixes insanity without help, that’s why it took SOMEBODY to tell him that he can actually be someone different. I believe that the psychology of many main characters in more than just this show is often overlooked by viewers. Leo has been listening to crazy frog for 3000 years and I couldn’t take it for 3 days. Anyone like that will never have a sound mind when pushed to the brink. I understand my statement here is an interpretation, and we all interpret things differently, but I always test anything I can before I write something off. There are many lines that come off as a tell that led me to interpret the story in the light that I did. Well except it clearly shows he 'came to his senses' and saw he was about to make something that'd be genuinely dangerous to the human race, so he destroyed it, which makes this whole sequence pointless if they weren't actually a threat! And no, someone who's actually crazy and/or brainwashed couldn't have the wisdom and mental stability to help others, which he did, there's also no real indication he's deranged and different in any way aside these key points of needing to do something... It also shows him growing massively as a person, and getting a personality and self awareness when at first he was a husk of a man. The conclusion? He's a self sufficient person with thousands of years of experience, he is clearly shown doing things for fun and just for the heck of it too, if anything, its you and most viewers and writers that make long lived and/or immortal characters that don't have the capacity to understand what sort of an intellectual monster that much time can turn you into, and instead write them all like other characters that live only up to 100~ years... No, even that would be wrong to say, because to say that would be to say they don't have any wise old role models - they either model it on characters as old as 40-50 tops, or plain idiots, average, and below average individuals who didn't achieve any sort of enlightenment in their lives. Also you speak as if his brainwashing is that much different to the brainwashing that you, me, and a lot of other people have without ever challenging or noticing it. Society over the years used to be, and still is downright insane if you analyze some of its aspects, going day to day accepting horrific, downright monstrous things without even looking, thinking, or considering them twice or even suspecting them to be a problem. They usually don't judge what they're told not to judge (i'm talking big stuff, not some things that don't matter in the grand scheme of things like shows, or celebrities or their friends), judge whatever they're told to and consider the norm without actually considering WHY that's the case, understanding it, extrapolating it to other things... But that doesn't work for people who have the free time to learn, and/or would be ageless like this man or other characters, and don't have to worry about the small things people usually do, more than that, the brainwashed goal itself - to protect humanity would drive him to knowledge and enlightenment because with it he'd be able to understand said goal and how to achieve it better, at some point far better than his creators... Such a person simply wouldn't be this immature, unknowing and underdeveloped, plus he did seem to be VERY well read. Anyway don't know where you stand in your life, but to me that character writing is as naive and silly sounding as to you character writing and stories written by a 6yo would sound. Not to say anything bad or sound condescending, but really, people usually mature and move toward better knowledge, going back to certain things, like belief in santa after some point is simply silly... And this sounds like a character i could write when i was about 16 - extremely naive and loose writing. |
| A happy ending is what we got, not that I was expecting otherwise, but I m glad. This anime disappointed me GREATLY, I loved the premise and first episode, but as it progressed it just focused on things I did not care about, I wanted to see more of Echidna's and Leo's interactions, sorry but when I get to such a synopsis for a plot, I m expecting tropes to be handled, in particular to romance, and if I have grown interested is because I feel the desire to see them playing, instead too much time was focus on side characters I don't care about. It diluted the experience quite a lot, some episodes like ep4 focused more on Echidna, but most did not, if not for these last 4-5 episodes (which is why the second part was just much better), I wanted her to be a main character through most of the plot, not solely on the latter half. This anime was honestly a 4 or 5 during the shit midpart, some side characters bore me to death, then you have ep6 which kinda started to heave out sparks of interest in me, Leo's past is slowly revealed, and that is when it started to get better too. While the conclusion was not handled in the best terms, IMO this resolution and existence of all that past trauma surrounding Leo's story (which added an original twist to the usual tropes as heroes go) made for a rather enjoyable experience by the end, to the point I would like to see a continuation and possible conclusion to this story (all the more provided we get Echidna x Leo). Now the LN ends at volume 3, so I m curious as to where the anime is covered, same for the manga... Eventually, I will know since I plan to go after either of the mediums... thank god this made a turnaround, the last few episodes had me quite invested, not to the point of making me forget that the first half was that disappointing, but still, there was good to this, aside having a really solid OP and a kickass ED theme (really dug the artwork for them there). 7.2/10 = 7 |
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| Loli Lili crying, struggling and then crying again was heartbreaking! T_T She sure got her revenge though lol... and then cried again. :'( And then lili cried tears of joy. :') Happy ending is best ending. Only wish he got the harem ending.. for all his efforts and deeds.. would have been perfect. (He has the queen, wolfgirl, elf/suc and the red headed dragongirl (the big guys daughter) interested in him.. prob a few of the other demon girls as well) Or at least given a more explicit queen ship ending. :D I mean why leave a finished, already rushed story unfinished. This series needed about twice as many eps.. even just as a short series. But would have worked much better as a longer one. It just felt wasted. The characters, setting/world and story seemed perfect for a longer runner. Way too much back story and depth to them for what they got. And so much to explore in general given the world (and hero's) history! Not to mention a better look at demon world.. and more cute demon girls! Also it would have been nice to get a look at the other heroes. Wonder what the female models were like. lol And how all the other ones were killed and by whom! (wasn't he said to be weaker then the rest?) And how humanity (well modern society at least) fell after seemingly winning. They should use his power directly to bring order to demon world. |
| Ending would be numerous times better if he actually died. But hey, can't just write 2 LN volumes, can you? |
Reply to Dawizz
This complete pandering to "modern audience" garbage is still above 7? WTF? This show pandered so hard that even a blind lgbt would be offended by it!
| @Dawizz Wait what? Did i miss something? |
| I enjoyed this series, but it felt like it was somewhat uneven, with some episodes being way better than others. Still, the episode 9 plot twist was fantastic, and the drama did work. Hope for season 2. PS: something just occurred to me: if every hero had a core inside him, doesn't that mean there are a minimum of 12 cores? So it isn't just the main one and the one leo had. After all, I find it highly likely that an "infinite energy generator" would be indestructible. Still, maybe Leo lied about there being only 2. He did want to convince them to kill him after all. |
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