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Sep 22, 1:28 AM
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This anime was beautiful. It really was strikingly visually beautiful, and it seemed to portray an interesting historical time.

Then the story just went all over the place, bad jokes that weren't funny, screaming faces, lots of other weird jarring stuff done for comedy that wasn't funny.

The visuals and historical setting was just so beautiful that I thought for a second this had the potential to be something better. I could forgive the forced gimmick which is focused way too much on of the MC's ability to run away, if the show was atleast decent in any other way. But it's not. Why is a show this pretty, so bad? :(
Sep 22, 2:04 AM
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It's one of the best anime of the season and this is "so bad". :DDDDD
Sep 22, 2:13 AM
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sockerdricka said:
This anime was beautiful. It really was strikingly visually beautiful, and it seemed to portray an interesting historical time.

Then the story just went all over the place, bad jokes that weren't funny, screaming faces, lots of other weird jarring stuff done for comedy that wasn't funny.

The visuals and historical setting was just so beautiful that I thought for a second this had the potential to be something better. I could forgive the forced gimmick which is focused way too much on of the MC's ability to run away, if the show was atleast decent in any other way. But it's not. Why is a show this pretty, so bad? :(

Lmfao. This is like the only good action shonen rn
Sep 22, 2:19 AM
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its one of the better battle shonen today

maybe you just hate battle shonen
Sep 22, 2:21 AM
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sockerdricka said:
Then the story just went all over the place, bad jokes that weren't funny, screaming faces, lots of other weird jarring stuff done for comedy that wasn't funny.


So a very typical Shounen Nekketsu, in short ? Looking at your list, it doesn't looks like the type of show you'll enjoy much, anyway.

sockerdricka said:
Why is a show this pretty, so bad? :(


It's beautiful because the producers believe it has the potential to be a huge hit, and it kinda is. As for why it's bad, the answer is simple... it's not.
"Genius lives only one storey above madness."
– Arthur Schopenhauer.

"Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
– Edgar Allan Poe.

"I'm tired... and hungry."
– Alexioos95.
Sep 22, 2:30 AM
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I think everyone who isn't too butthurt about the comedy and who has seen a Shonen-Show before was able to enjoy this :)

You didn't see the point? Oh, well you wasted your time then. That's too bad^^

The Rest of us are fine with it, tho
Sep 22, 2:34 AM
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also battle shonen usually have good animation anyway especially for season 1 of it
Sep 22, 3:23 AM
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Just don't take the plot seriously. Honestly the characters are too young to be welding a revolution to overthrow the system, in just 18 months.
Take it for what it is a funny, refreshing and beautifully animated shounen action.
Sep 22, 3:30 AM
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I think everyone who isn't too butthurt about the comedy and who has seen a Shonen-Show before was able to enjoy this :)

You didn't see the point? Oh, well you wasted your time then. That's too bad^^

The Rest of us are fine with it, tho
@Merve2Love Oh i've seen a shounen or two, don't worry about that :) I don't know about "butthurt" but you and many others seem more aggressive about it. It's funny you're so gung ho about it though. From my POV you look like the butthurt one. But if you actually liked it, who am I to judge.
Sep 22, 5:14 AM
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I mean if the story etc was actually bad, then the manga would've been cancelled after 25 chapters (and so no anime). The show is a 6/10 for me, though.
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You're not the target audience. This is a kiddy show. Once you realise that, you'll have low expectations and just roll with it.
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ilias23 said:
Just don't take the plot seriously. Honestly the characters are too young to be welding a revolution to overthrow the system, in just 18 months.
Take it for what it is a funny, refreshing and beautifully animated shounen action.

I always assumed a time skip would come eventually
Sep 22, 5:51 AM
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sockerdricka said:
This anime was beautiful. It really was strikingly visually beautiful, and it seemed to portray an interesting historical time.

Then the story just went all over the place, bad jokes that weren't funny, screaming faces, lots of other weird jarring stuff done for comedy that wasn't funny.

The visuals and historical setting was just so beautiful that I thought for a second this had the potential to be something better. I could forgive the forced gimmick which is focused way too much on of the MC's ability to run away, if the show was atleast decent in any other way. But it's not. Why is a show this pretty, so bad? :(

For me, this anime is the best from Summer 2024 season. Japan historical events, MC, animation, both OP and ED themes are absolutely amazing. I won’t say that there is futile bad jokes, but they made a great job presenting the life of Japanese samurai as it was and I find it awesome.
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Maksiisi said:
ilias23 said:
Just don't take the plot seriously. Honestly the characters are too young to be welding a revolution to overthrow the system, in just 18 months.
Take it for what it is a funny, refreshing and beautifully animated shounen action.

I always assumed a time skip would come eventually

I don't think so. I didn't read the source material but, if I'm not mistaken, that crazy guy yorishige predicted that our hero is gonna reclaim his throne in 18 months.
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sockerdricka said:
@Merve2Love Oh i've seen a shounen or two, don't worry about that :) I don't know about "butthurt" but you and many others seem more aggressive about it. It's funny you're so gung ho about it though. From my POV you look like the butthurt one. But if you actually liked it, who am I to judge.

Good point.

You're perfectly fine. It's everybody else who's wrong and douchy^^
Sep 22, 6:08 AM

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@bene29374 It doesn't matter. The tone is still for kids and showing them that the world isn't rainbows and butterflies. That's the point of all the bloodshed.

If I would like to make this a more serious tale with an older demographic, I would remove Yorishige's humour, make it all darker, have a dreary tone, and have older teenagers be the cast.
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sockerdricka said:
This anime was beautiful. It really was strikingly visually beautiful, and it seemed to portray an interesting historical time.

Then the story just went all over the place, bad jokes that weren't funny, screaming faces, lots of other weird jarring stuff done for comedy that wasn't funny.

The visuals and historical setting was just so beautiful that I thought for a second this had the potential to be something better. I could forgive the forced gimmick which is focused way too much on of the MC's ability to run away, if the show was atleast decent in any other way. But it's not. Why is a show this pretty, so bad? :(

For me, this anime is the best from Summer 2024 season. Japan historical events, MC, animation, both OP and ED themes are absolutely amazing. I won’t say that there is futile bad jokes, but they made a great job presenting the life of Japanese samurai as it was and I find it awesome.
@OtakuKun1 Thanks for sharing. I posted what I think but I didn't do it to shit on someone elses favourite show, if you like it great and even better when you share your views on it :)
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@Merve2Love Oh i've seen a shounen or two, don't worry about that :) I don't know about "butthurt" but you and many others seem more aggressive about it. It's funny you're so gung ho about it though. From my POV you look like the butthurt one. But if you actually liked it, who am I to judge.

Good point.

You're perfectly fine. It's everybody else who's wrong and douchy^^
@Merve2Love
"Good point.
You're perfectly fine. It's everybody else who's wrong and douchy^^"

Way to twist words. I never blamed everone or called anyone "douchy", i specifically replied to you. Don't drag "everyone" in with you.
Why do you try to twist words like that and frame it like i said something I never did? Why? Who does that?
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sockerdricka said:
@OtakuKun1 Thanks for sharing. I posted what I think but I didn't do it to shit on someone elses favourite show, if you like it great and even better when you share your views on it :)

You’re right. This anime is my favourite from this season, I really love all of it and I am always happy to share my thoughts and debate any ideas.
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@bene29374 It doesn't matter. The tone is still for kids and showing them that the world isn't rainbows and butterflies. That's the point of all the bloodshed.

If I would like to make this a more serious tale with an older demographic, I would remove Yorishige's humour, make it all darker, have a dreary tone, and have older teenagers be the cast.
@patkarunungan True, that part does not matter. What matter is the deep and complex symbolism in the show which makes it a show for older demographic.
I'm not that familiar with the Japanese education system, but in the west with that symbolism it should be a 16+ show. And I'm not talking about the gorey scenes at all.
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sockerdricka said:
@Merve2Love
"Good point.
You're perfectly fine. It's everybody else who's wrong and douchy^^"

Way to twist words. I never blamed everone or called anyone "douchy", i specifically replied to you. Don't drag "everyone" in with you.
Why do you try to twist words like that and frame it like i said something I never did? Why? Who does that?

You alright, buddy?

My original reply to you: "Oh, Well seems like you wasted your time. Whatever. Most of us liked it, tho"


^^ And you're asking me like 10 different questions now, talking about some Word twisting that got you going

You didn't like a Show and thought everyone should be applauding you for it, online. But that didn't happen. People think this Anime is fine. So what?

No need to lash out :) Life is good. Relax.
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The comedy is hit and miss for me (but more hit tbh), however I feel like the overall art/animation style is a bit overbearing. For me, it is a little bit too much, but this type of thing really depends on peoples tastes.

For me though, I just haven't been able to connect with many characters in the show. Gradually, I've begun to respect Tokiyuki's first 2 retainers (Ayako and Kojiro) as we see their dedication and improvement consistently throughout the show. Tokiyuki feels quite 1D and childish, but then again, he's literally 9 years old (which still shocks me whenever they mention it like last episode)... so I can't blame him, it still makes the show feel stale though. I liked Yorishige's monologue about the future and how something exists and has a presence as long as we believe it exists. But as soon as people stop believing in those things, then they no longer have an impact on our lives, so they no longer exist. Overall, the characters that really intrigue me are the antagonist and his brother. I hope they explore his inhumane nature and his brother's response to the things he finds out.

Besides the characters, the biggest issue for me has to be how each event is connected to the overarching plot. While they are connected, I think the presentation of the stakes is lacking which has made the battles feel lackluster. I would give it a 6.5/10 for now, but I'd watch a sequel due to my interest in the villains.
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yeah it's pretty horrendous and the lame gimmicks make it a lot worse. so hard to believe the same guy who made assassination classroom, made this bs.
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ilias23 said:
Just don't take the plot seriously. Honestly the characters are too young to be welding a revolution to overthrow the system, in just 18 months.
Take it for what it is a funny, refreshing and beautifully animated shounen action.

Idk you gotta remember that there were child soldiers back then and children also had to grow up basically "without a childhood" so nah its not that unrealistic. If we go by that logic you could nitpick non "realistic" anime and manga writing. So nah its well written critique of the cancer that "bushido" and "honorable death" culture has on japan even to this day.
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There are sometimes inconsistencies in MAL's classifications.
In my view, the label "Drama" should be added to this work, while "Comedy" would magnify the misunderstanding. Comedy is essential to this anime, but it is not intended to get lots of laughs. The structure of the comedy in this story is designed to enjoy the repetition of the people in the show being pissed off by the glut of flat comedies. If a watcher is expecting a "Comedy" tag on this work, she will be disappointed.

Up until around episode #03, the predominant voices in the forum were bitter toward Suwa Yorishige.
I knew that he was a real person. So I could suppose that there must be some dramatic intentions behind his futile antics.

I've been remembering a completely unrelated work. Has anyone watched «Mobile Suit Gundam 00»?
During the six months of the first season, the show repeatedly depicted the flirtation of a Lovey-Dovey couple of idiots who had nothing to do with either Gundam or the mech wars. Most viewers must have found them annoying and also wondered why the director was wasting our time on them.
At the end of the first season, each of them has had their lives screwed up by Gundams and issues brought by them. They lost their immediate families, suffered irreparable physical injuries, and eventually lost each other. The terrorist responsible for these events was the boy next door.
The audience realized here: these silly lovebirds were just two ordinary people who had nothing to do with the war. In other words, they were the general public, just like ourselves. Shocking.
The two in the play had been reacting coldly to news reports of Gundam deterring war by intervening indiscriminately in military conflicts around the world, rendering both sides incapable of fighting. They even called it annoying. However, their reaction was not one of genuine anger or fear for violence, but rather an "annoyance that a war in a distant country is disturbing my comfy daily life." The viewers, on the other hand, felt that it was the presence of these two that was annoying. The director might have offered an answer to the phrase that arose in that time: "Ria-jyuu bakuhatsu shiro!" (Normies explode!)
The two were just flirting within a world of their own. When an incident that should have been a war in some distant country suddenly fell upon the two, not only disrupting their daily lives but completely destroying.
The two who had been mere "moving backgrounds with annoying voices," then left the drama. It was an annoying party that we, as viewers, had hoped would disappear, but we were reminded that we did not want the two to disappear in that way.
This development is made all the more tragic by the fact that the two have been portrayed as so naïve and foolish.
The ex-lovers two, in the second season, took the position facing each other across the front line to embody the contradiction that is the driving force of the new chapter.

The annoying, persistent, comical character you wish would go away will go away. He will leave with a scene that makes you distressed: "This wasn't how he was supposed to go." That is what the story is designed to be.
And by disappearing from the reality of the world in the story, he will become really indispensable and immortal.


Reminded. In «Gundam 00», there was a character who was influenced by the spirit of samurai and obsessed about pure fighting with honor. The voice actor was who now plays as Suwa Yorishige.
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Most of your criticism focuses on the comedy aspect, which is highly subjective. As for the rest, it touches on vague elements (which, again, circles back to the comedy issue...). I don’t have much to say other than "it’s all relative"—comedy is subjective. What I can say, however, is that I strongly disagree with the notion that the show is bad. Quite the opposite: from my experience, I get excited for each new episode. The pacing is solid, the humor lands well, and the show feels like a refreshing change compared to recent shounen anime that often take themselves too seriously (like Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer, Chainsaw Man). It manages to avoid many typical shounen tropes and offers something different: it’s historical, there are no organizations fighting ranked enemies, no overly complex power systems (like chakra, nen, cursed energy, etc.), no protagonist with a hidden monster, no tournament or battle royale arcs, no school setting, and no traditional "training arcs." Even the idea of a protagonist who values running away is something fresh in itself.

I don't understand how so many objective qualities are being overlooked. Maybe you're just not the type who enjoys this kind of mix of contrasting tones taken to the extreme, but I love it. I can't stand action series that take themselves more seriously than they should, I agree that when done poorly, it can detract from the experience, but that’s not the case for me with The Elusive Samurai. The feeling I get watching it is very similar to how I feel watching Mob Psycho 100, an anime with a wide range of tones and textures.

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Most of your criticism focuses on the comedy aspect, which is highly subjective. As for the rest, it touches on vague elements (which, again, circles back to the comedy issue...). I don’t have much to say other than "it’s all relative"—comedy is subjective. What I can say, however, is that I strongly disagree with the notion that the show is bad. Quite the opposite: from my experience, I get excited for each new episode. The pacing is solid, the humor lands well, and the show feels like a refreshing change compared to recent shounen anime that often take themselves too seriously (like Jujutsu Kaisen, Demon Slayer, Chainsaw Man). It manages to avoid many typical shounen tropes and offers something different: it’s historical, there are no organizations fighting ranked enemies, no overly complex power systems (like chakra, nen, cursed energy, etc.), no protagonist with a hidden monster, no tournament or battle royale arcs, no school setting, and no traditional "training arcs." Even the idea of a protagonist who values running away is something fresh in itself.

I don't understand how so many objective qualities are being overlooked. Maybe you're just not the type who enjoys this kind of mix of contrasting tones taken to the extreme, but I love it. I can't stand action series that take themselves more seriously than they should, I agree that when done poorly, it can detract from the experience, but that’s not the case for me with The Elusive Samurai. The feeling I get watching it is very similar to how I feel watching Mob Psycho 100, an anime with a wide range of tones and textures.

@Artur_Moreira Dam I agree, you cooked. I guess most people just want a generic shonen with no creativity behind it.
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You're not the target audience. This is a kiddy show. Once you realise that, you'll have low expectations and just roll with it.
@patkarunungan its a kiddy show that has excessive gore and people being brutally murdered, who is the target audience
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@patkarunungan its a kiddy show that has excessive gore and people being brutally murdered, who is the target audience
@Rukasumi 10 to 15 year old kids

ETA: Looking at outside sources, this website
https://library.spscc.edu/c.php?g=1335176&p=9854559#:~:text=Shonen%20manga%20are%20targeted%20towards,late%2050s%20to%20early%2060s.

says that the shounen demographic targets 9 to 18 year olds, and it goes without saying that older people can appreciate a show like this.

It's just that, me personally, this anime is at the lower end of the age bracket for two reasons that I will repeatedly mention:

1) the lame humour of Yorishige

2) our protagonists are early teenagers if not preteens.

This despite the gore and the violence.
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sockerdricka said:
This anime was beautiful. It really was strikingly visually beautiful, and it seemed to portray an interesting historical time.

Then the story just went all over the place, bad jokes that weren't funny, screaming faces, lots of other weird jarring stuff done for comedy that wasn't funny.

The visuals and historical setting was just so beautiful that I thought for a second this had the potential to be something better. I could forgive the forced gimmick which is focused way too much on of the MC's ability to run away, if the show was atleast decent in any other way. But it's not. Why is a show this pretty, so bad? :(

all the shonen fans are hating as they usually do so i'll back this guy

i get that shonen is a genre not meant to be taken super seriously as it's normally just guys fighting with dumb jokes, but the way this show looked before it aired and the expectations it set for me, and this dude too i'm assuming, were way different from how it ended up being.

sure, maybe as a shonen it's actually pretty good, but the way it was portrayed to me had me hyped for a well written historical anime with a gorgeous art style, which it obviously is not. maybe it has good writing for a shonen, but it is leagues below what i was expecting just based off of the appearance of it.
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I mean if the story etc was actually bad, then the manga would've been cancelled after 25 chapters (and so no anime). The show is a 6/10 for me, though.

nahh people will do anything for money with no regard for quality; just look at any example of a shitty anime that somehow had enough manga to adapt into a full season
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patkarunungan said:
You're not the target audience. This is a kiddy show. Once you realise that, you'll have low expectations and just roll with it.

if this is a kiddy show then fucking john wick is a childrens movie. i agree the humor is pretty immature but if i saw some of the scenes just from the first episode when i was a kid, i would have been traumatized
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OtakuKun1 said:
sockerdricka said:
This anime was beautiful. It really was strikingly visually beautiful, and it seemed to portray an interesting historical time.

Then the story just went all over the place, bad jokes that weren't funny, screaming faces, lots of other weird jarring stuff done for comedy that wasn't funny.

The visuals and historical setting was just so beautiful that I thought for a second this had the potential to be something better. I could forgive the forced gimmick which is focused way too much on of the MC's ability to run away, if the show was atleast decent in any other way. But it's not. Why is a show this pretty, so bad? :(

For me, this anime is the best from Summer 2024 season. Japan historical events, MC, animation, both OP and ED themes are absolutely amazing. I won’t say that there is futile bad jokes, but they made a great job presenting the life of Japanese samurai as it was and I find it awesome.

calling this better than makeine is wild
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@Merve2Love
"Good point.
You're perfectly fine. It's everybody else who's wrong and douchy^^"

Way to twist words. I never blamed everone or called anyone "douchy", i specifically replied to you. Don't drag "everyone" in with you.
Why do you try to twist words like that and frame it like i said something I never did? Why? Who does that?

it's always the fuckers with the persona pfps
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I didn't like this anime either. The comidy is soo out of place and sometime stright up being cringe same goes for its story. The art and animation is good as expected from Cloverworks but seriously they should have picked better shounen series. This one is mid asf you can see the manga score it's around 6.5, This anime is totally carried by it's art and animation.
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Visually speaking, this is the most jaw-dropping, unhinged anime I've seen this season. It's so good that I don't even need "a point."

I do recognize that the story, the characters and the comedy are so bad that a lot of people couldn't get into this. They're still not enough to make me dislike the show, though (so far).

I wonder how much more amazing this could have been... but I just gave up and accepted that this show is only eye-candy.
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Visually speaking, this is the most jaw-dropping, unhinged anime I've seen this season. It's so good that I don't even need "a point."

I do recognize that the story, the characters and the comedy are so bad that a lot of people couldn't get into this. They're still not enough to make me dislike the show, though (so far).

I wonder how much more amazing this could have been... but I just gave up and accepted that this show is only eye-candy.
@perseii LOL calling the story, characters and comedy SO bad is a hot take. Its not for you does not make it bad, its just not your type of story. It wouldnt be as popular in japan if it was all those things and even in the US its doing Okay/decent NOT BAD.
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I didn't like this anime either. The comidy is soo out of place and sometime stright up being cringe same goes for its story. The art and animation is good as expected from Cloverworks but seriously they should have picked better shounen series. This one is mid asf you can see the manga score it's around 6.5, This anime is totally carried by it's art and animation.
@ZXEAN It's not for you, move on. Manga score does not correlate to whats good or not as the beggining of the manga was the weakest. You not liking the comedy is subjective but many people do. This is the better shonen series of recent decade, definitely better than Demon Slayer.
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@ZXEAN It's not for you, move on. Manga score does not correlate to whats good or not as the beggining of the manga was the weakest. You not liking the comedy is subjective but many people do. This is the better shonen series of recent decade, definitely better than Demon Slayer.
@GrimLegend Manga score is also given by MAL users. Anyway I don't want to waste my time watching this cringe anime, so dropped it after episode 2 and don't compare it with Demon Slayer it have much wider fanbase and is loved by people from all age group and gender it doesn't try to do something unique it's a pure shounen at its core unlike this one which feels like a mix bag. Anyway have a nice day.
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@perseii LOL calling the story, characters and comedy SO bad is a hot take. Its not for you does not make it bad, its just not your type of story. It wouldnt be as popular in japan if it was all those things and even in the US its doing Okay/decent NOT BAD.
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a hot take.

I don't think it's that hot of a take, since just in this thread and in the episode discussion threads I've seen many complaints about the comedy and the writing in general. That's been my experience, feel free to disagree.

GrimLegend said:
Its not for you does not make it bad

I understand that is often the case, but in other cases I do think something is bad. It's an opinion.

And I didn't really say this show's writing was bad, I only meant it was "bad enough" for a lot of people here to get turned off by it. The phrasing wasn't very good, I guess.

Again, I don't dislike the show. I just think that the writing isn't remotely on the same level as the visuals. And that's fine.
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@patkarunungan its a kiddy show that has excessive gore and people being brutally murdered, who is the target audience
@Rukasumi You’re starting from a clichéd assumption that a kids' show should never take itself seriously, and that an adult show MUST be serious on every level of its conception. You sound like the type of teenager trying to prove that 'anime isn’t for kids' by using silly edgy examples. Adults also enjoy stories that don’t take themselves too seriously, and kids can appreciate heavier themes. Just remember Avatar, a children's show with a plot centered around ethnic genocide.
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@Rukasumi You’re starting from a clichéd assumption that a kids' show should never take itself seriously, and that an adult show MUST be serious on every level of its conception. You sound like the type of teenager trying to prove that 'anime isn’t for kids' by using silly edgy examples. Adults also enjoy stories that don’t take themselves too seriously, and kids can appreciate heavier themes. Just remember Avatar, a children's show with a plot centered around ethnic genocide.
@Artur_Moreira He never said "never" or "should" in his comment. All he said was that gore and violent murders don't go well with a children's show. Which is pretty close to the truth.
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@Artur_Moreira He never said "never" or "should" in his comment. All he said was that gore and violent murders don't go well with a children's show. Which is pretty close to the truth.
@RobertBobert not to mention the show is literally rated r 17
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@RobertBobert not to mention the show is literally rated r 17
@Rukasumi I would rather say that this is a typical edgy shonen for an older audience, which is more or less common for Japanese targeting. But to Western eyes, the idea of ​​combining young children and Tarantino-style storytelling doesn't seem like an common idea.
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The manga score is low because 1500 dumbasses dropped it way too early because either they can't read or know what makes a story good lmao
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What are you even yapping about
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I think that anyone focusing on the idea that because it's a "shounen" anime that means the main audience is young boys is severely out of touch with the genre and how it's developed in Japan: the primary audience isn't children around Tokiyuki's age, it's young women who enjoy BL - "fujoshi."
I've really enjoyed watching this anime and have found the voice-acting, animation and art-direction incredible, but it's impossible to ignore the strong element of boys love, especially the shotacon aspect, and the immature, derivative humor that is a hallmark of shounen manga written for a fujo audience - it's almost a pastiche of the same jokes about peepees, farts and poop that boys actually enjoy and mature readers scoff at when reading 800 chapter battle shounen epics, that feels like they've been inserted to give the audience the familiar feeling of reading a real manga written for young boys.

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