Nige Jouzu no Wakagimi Episode 6 Discussion

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Aug 11, 7:11 PM

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SuperAdventure

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This show is dumb. It looks pretty, it's well animated. But DUMB

Aug 11, 9:55 PM

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2 things is this an Isekai? And will there be a Time-Skip if there is a time-skip how long will it be? Please No Manga spoilers, just want a yes or no and maybe a short summary.

Isekai:
I believe this is an Isekai bc Yorishige says he knows the future and kinda acts like he was from the modern time so he could have been a like teacher, historian, etc.
Also after this episode, don’t ask why I don’t really know I believe Takauji is also from the future

Time Skip:
Now the time skip I honestly just hope there will be one and not have little kids killing grown adults the whole show especially after seeing how strong Takauji is. He was having a conversation and slicing everyone’s head clean off, and then all the civilians asked if HE WAS OK and just said F the prince.

Please don’t say anything about my grammar and spelling I’m high asf rn.

Aug 11, 10:01 PM

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Cloverworks back to peak form, and surprisingly they didn’t screw up the horse scene with cgi. They were capable of this from the beginning so it’s very confusing why the previous episodes had so much cgi.

Aug 11, 10:04 PM

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OtakuKun1 said:
This is by far the best anime from Summer 2024 anime season in my opinion. The way that past events are presented, how Kamakura shogunate is being reconquered and Tokiyuki’s adventures with Suwa clan are extremely great.

Takauji Ashikaga surely is the strongest warrior. He must work hard and come with strong techniques in order to defeat him and take back the Kamakura. It seems that Sadamune won’t be a bother for a while.

The animation is peak. The most beautiful moment from this episode was when Genba lit those flames to his rope when he fought Sadamune.

It’s the most underrated for sure (since Makeine is eating way too much of the hype), but Oshi no Ko is still at the top

Aug 11, 11:58 PM

#55

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The animation was INCREDIBLE !!! The motions the symbolism... I seriously enjoyed that . Especially the end with a bit of a look into the current prince's inner world with an experience that was so intimidating and polarising, it really resonated with me, I could feel the distress . this is just what really stood out to me - overall the different relationships forming / developing / being shown were also done well . Every episode is so interesting and exciting . So much to talk about

Aug 12, 12:09 AM

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Animillion said:

It’s the most underrated for sure (since Makeine is eating way too much of the hype), but Oshi no Ko is still at the top

You’re right. I haven’t seen Oshi No Ko yet. What’s your opinion about it, is it worth watching?

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Aug 12, 1:46 AM

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The way a character is portrayed by a manga author can only be said to be the author's style.

In pre-modern Japan, the distinction between a child and an adult was based on the rites of adulthood. Social approval is absolute, and biological age is not definitive.
I couldn't find out the age of the real Hojo Tokiyuki at the time of his coming-of-age ceremony, but the Tokiyuki in this anime is not yet an adult.
The name "Tokiyuki" was claimed after the ceremony instead of his childhood name. The name of an individual is unified in this story because changing the name of the same person can easily confuse modern viewers.

It is a common misconception that Tokiyuki was a sheltered kid who didn't have to worry about anything.
A lord of a samurai clan was responsible for all the retainers under his command (郎党 [routou], you've learned it in ep. #03). In particular, the Kamakura regime thoroughly reformed and institutionalized the basic concept of the lord-retainer relationship. They repealed unwarranted exploitative or one-sided relationships and then introduced mutually beneficial ones, in which the lord gave lands to his retainers, and in return, they fought for the lord. This was carried over into subsequent samurai regimes (there are numerous scholarly comparative studies contrasting this with Western contractual relationships).

An heir to the samurai clan grew up aware of his obligations to his future retainers. Even as a child, Tokiyuki in this show is now already in a position to take charge of the destiny of four retainers of his own.

The Kamakura Shogun was the supreme commander of all feudal samurais in Japan. Tokiyuki would have been expected to receive respects and services from all the warriors in the future, and in return, he would have sit in the position to give them rewards, honor, and paths of life.
The Hojo clan has been giving assurance of the territory of the Suwa clan, one of its most major and loyal retainers. So Yorishige, as the head of the Suwa clan, fulfills his duty to protect his late lord's only heir and helps him to revive the Hojo clan with the fate of the Suwa clan at any stake.

Underestimating Tokiyuki as a mere dimwit scion, Genba has gotten revealed his narrow insight, which is demonstrated by the fact that he did not realize the possibility of receiving a province if he served him. On the contrary, for our lordling Tokiyuki, a bounty is to be paid in territory or honor, but not in cash here today and gone tomorrow.

In addition, until the criticism has been published by Jean-Jacques Rousseau in the 18th century, children everywhere in the world were "babies lucky enough to survive for five years," "small adults," or "unskilled laborers." It is only that they are sometimes exempt from labor due to their circumstances.

Frankly speaking, this period is not of much interest even to the common Japanese unless history nerds, and the warlord Hojo Tokiyuki is not a prominent figure. On the other hand, the development of the weak and the few defeating the hordes through brilliant guerrilla warfare excites people's minds.
It can be said that the manga author picked up a buried gemstone from deep history and polished it to shine up -- he would be like Yorishige in this story, don't you think so?

* I put a note on here, not to be involved into mud-slinging in the other thread.

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Aug 12, 2:55 AM

#58

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Zeemod155 said:
The artistic team on this show are so tapped into the source material and are showing their love and understanding of it in a way that it feels not even the original source material is. It's kind of impressive. Making the most of an above average manga in a way that makes me realize maybe it's much better than the adaptations of manga I enjoy more!

When was the last time you've seen an anime production vibrating on the same frequency as the manga author's dream scenario?

This would be Demon Slayer for me. I remember picking up and reading it before S1 came out, and it was nothing exceptional. Ufotable knocked it out of the park though, and made something truly enjoyable out of it. I don't think I can recall any other time where a studio elevated the source material by that much. I haven't read the manga for this, but I assume it's the same with how they completely embrace the story with its dark comedic moments and utilize such stellar animation for moments that I genuinely find myself laughing at, but would likely cringe more at otherwise in the manga.

Aug 12, 10:40 AM

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I'm very interested in Japanese history, especially the era of the samurai. This anime has a very interesting story, art style and direction. If you know any anime like this, I would be happy to introduce you to me.

Aug 12, 12:07 PM

#60

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Easily the best episode thus far. I honestly don't know if they can top this.

Aug 12, 12:27 PM

#61

Apratim

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Takauji is next level villain dam 💀💀

Aug 12, 9:50 PM

#62

camghost10

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Okay, Hojo and Genba are a super sick DUO. Ninja and Samurai ftw! Also, the scene with Takauji at the end was INSANE bro is a menace with AURA. Super sick animation on his scene as well super sick him chopping necks while dodging bro!

Aug 12, 11:52 PM

#63

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Genba's presence really made Tokiyuki's team even more fun and lively. I'm looking forward to the blue haired one joining them!

Aug 13, 6:31 AM

#64

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Reply to Zxstu

@Zxstu Not an isekai, it's based on a period of japanese history, Yorishige just claims some future sight. Probably based on the claim that the Kami of Suwa shrine and the lords of the Suwa were somewhat interlinked. No idea about a time skip.

Aug 13, 12:08 PM

#65

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Curses foiled again

Aug 13, 6:12 PM

#66

tonymilk

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i love this show with all my hearts

Aug 16, 3:23 PM

#67

Treyv0n

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Holy fucking SHIT Takauji is insane bro like this nigga is actually a scary ass antagonist man I’ve never seen something like this like all those ppl who sided with that emperor simply ran to Takauji’s aid like the emperor’s ppl didn’t just try to kill the guy and how strong is this dude!?!? Istg this show has supernatural powers bc that’s the only way I can how Takauji decapitated all those ppl in a blink of an eye😧😧😧🫨

The animation was fucking top tier during the Takauji moment where he entered Kyoto like that part was so well animated and the ppls smiling faces were so eerily creepy man like this episode was really a good watch man love Cloverworks for giving us this amazing show🔥🔥🔥🔥😩

This is just a pet peeve of mine but I really hate those ppl who are only watching this show simply bc of the animation and hate on the story, it’s like why are you forcing yourself to watch a show you don’t enjoy?💀🤦🏽‍♂️💀

Aug 18, 5:21 AM

#68

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The direction in this episode was insane. Honestly might be the best directed episode yet of all anime this season. It would have been so easy to go the route of most average anime and just show the fights and the cat and mouse chase like a slideshow with no weight or emotion behind it. But they went all in to not just show us the moments but convey the emotions in the most creative ways possible. All I want is the show to continue to deliver on this creativeness.

Aug 20, 12:02 AM

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Tufani

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Apr 2020

this anime is really really cool....

Aug 23, 7:42 AM

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tokiyuki is a beast in battle love to see him and takauji fight and as usually cloverworks delivered a bangar ep...

Aug 28, 8:41 AM

#71

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so much yummy things this episode!

old man yaoi, Prince Moriyoshi serving cunt right upon first appearance and the mass slaughter scene? INSANE

very strong contender for my fave episode so far

Aug 28, 7:13 PM

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I sincerely think that scene with Takauji is one of the all time best Main villain defining moments. The surreal imagery that devolves into a sea of identically swarms of faithful followers contrasting the bloodstained ground he stands on cleanly is incredible imagery.

Immahnoob said:
Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

tokiyashiro said:

Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Aug 31, 9:56 AM

#73

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Genba is now one of the retainers for Tokiyuki & Takauji is a complete beast.

Aug 31, 11:01 PM

#74

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I love the way Genba taunted those 2.
Good to see Sadamune won't be getting an imperial command anytime soon.

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Sep 6, 7:37 AM

#75

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Genba showed his skills and he's so good with them. It was such a good episode with brilliant storyboarding and direction once again.

Sep 7, 5:15 PM

#76

Bernkastels

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Takauji is the coldest motherfucker of the season without a doubt

Sep 9, 12:20 AM

#77

perseii

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Stunning episode. Just wow. Beautiful, disgusting, creative, fun, annoying, horrifying, heartwarming. What is this black magic.

Sep 14, 9:19 AM

#78

Softhenic03

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Goodness, they knocked it out of park when they were giving a glimpse of Takauji's charisma. Guy is made for that main villain title. Also shows the kind of passion the staff is pouring into this series.

Though hey, those last two minutes really did dial down the seriousness lol.

Sep 15, 5:07 AM

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the takauji animation though... reminded me of the garden of earthly delights with all the flowers and chaos x_x hope the animators were enjoying when they did that!

Sep 17, 4:57 AM

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At first, I was doubtful of how good this anime was. I stopped at episode three, and left the following ones to watch later. I'm glad I came back to it. This took its time to get interesting for me, but when it got there it was worth it.

Sep 20, 9:02 AM

#81

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Damn, some heavy mass mind manipulation going on. Acting effortlessly whether it's slaughtering soldiers, dodging swords or being acclaimed by plebs. He's a sort of demon for sure. Wish there were more scenes like that one, but that's how it is: unhinged.

AJpurple said:
so much yummy things this episode!

old man yaoi, Prince Moriyoshi serving cunt right upon first appearance and the mass slaughter scene? INSANE

Ditto, although pug eyes x mouse face ain't such a sight. Unlike naked Takauji's visionary garden-of-eden eyecandy.

watching, waiting, commiserating

Oct 20, 9:34 AM

#82

Ashhk

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Omg the artistic direction at the end of the episode was truly stunning

Yesterday, 3:45 AM

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Personally didn't care for the episode. While the animation was nice in the fight, the new character is a bit annoying (I'm getting Black Star flashbacks), and the Sadamune tantrum had me cringing. The only thing I was enjoying was the infighting with the Prince and Takauji (who is the best character so far), and how he's slowly taking over the faction.

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