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Jul 9, 2:38 PM

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@deg

I didn't say that^^
You do you.

I just gave my 2 Cents.
@Merve2Love i do me? but you said i should not make this thread? ye youre trolling again
Jul 9, 2:40 PM

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@Merve2Love i do me? but you said i should not make this thread? ye youre trolling again
@deg

Nobody said that, again^^

Don't be paranoid.
Jul 9, 2:43 PM

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@deg

Nobody said that, again^^

Don't be paranoid.
@Merve2Love lol youre projecting with that paranoid claim and you know youre passive aggressive against thread makers you hate so dont be a liar
Jul 9, 7:07 PM

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Manga itself have literally no shotacon undertone, so any undertone can be put on anime "fault". So you don't need to worry about "inappropriate content".
Manga recommendation:
- Spy x Family (Ch.107/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.191/? - weekly)
- MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.108/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.16/? - biweekly)
- Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.78/? - biweekly)
- You and I Are Polar Opposites (Ch.65 - Finished)
Anime recommendation:
- Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished)
- If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished)
- Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished)
Jul 9, 8:32 PM

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That first shot definitely looked weird to me.

I did check out the first few chapters of the manga, and in the manga that exact shot doesn't look so... charged. The "bulging vein" effect on his forehead is much more visible, so he's more obviously ticked off.

I'm not sure why the anime made that less prominent. It's not a big deal at the moment, just a little distracting.
Jul 10, 4:22 AM
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Porn brain affects you bad dude
Jul 10, 10:28 AM

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I sure hope it does, Tokiyuki is so cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute
Read my comic pl0x :D
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Jul 10, 10:29 AM

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@Merve2Love lol youre projecting with that paranoid claim and you know youre passive aggressive against thread makers you hate so dont be a liar
@deg
@Merve2Love

just kiss already jeez, get a damn room
Read my comic pl0x :D
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Jul 10, 12:31 PM

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I honestly hope all of the creeps in this thread are trolls.
Jul 10, 1:41 PM
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I admit I had suspicions watching that scene but I want to give it the benefit of the doubt. After that really weird shota con fantasy last season I think I’m overly cautious too.
Jul 10, 1:54 PM
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that scene made me puke, people who make stuff like this should be automatically checked for pedo, I'd bet the author has this stuff hidden somewhere

I wanted a clear answer abt the topic, if things are like this I'd rather drop the anime
Jul 10, 3:18 PM

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I mean I'm on japanese twitter and they pointed this out too but they're the guys who are drawing the fanart so...
Also its officially a meme people are redrawing now
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Jul 10, 4:23 PM

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Yes, I got weird vibes from that scene lol, and the manga pages on this thread pretty much confirm my suspicions (even if it's mostly played off as comedic).
Jul 10, 6:26 PM

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that scene made me puke, people who make stuff like this should be automatically checked for pedo, I'd bet the author has this stuff hidden somewhere

I wanted a clear answer abt the topic, if things are like this I'd rather drop the anime
@Penteano drama queen alert~!
Read my comic pl0x :D
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Jul 10, 6:57 PM

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thats one way to tell on yourself
@Mr_Sai @voltwaffle @Piromysl Jesus, can you guys gaslight any harder? There is obvious shota fanservice in this anime. You guys are clowns if you can't see it. Fucking retards man.
Jul 10, 7:43 PM
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@Mr_Sai @voltwaffle @Piromysl Jesus, can you guys gaslight any harder? There is obvious shota fanservice in this anime. You guys are clowns if you can't see it. Fucking retards man.
@ex_necross the most sane comment yet. the bluntness made be burst out laughing lol. it's extremely black and white.
Jul 10, 8:58 PM

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ex_necross said:
@Mr_Sai @voltwaffle @Piromysl Jesus, can you guys gaslight any harder? There is obvious shota fanservice in this anime. You guys are clowns if you can't see it. Fucking retards man.

Imagine being called out for NOT being a porn addicted creep.
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Jul 10, 9:01 PM

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ex_necross said:
@Mr_Sai @voltwaffle @Piromysl Jesus, can you guys gaslight any harder? There is obvious shota fanservice in this anime. You guys are clowns if you can't see it. Fucking retards man.

I've kept up with the manga since it started and not once did I see anything that was "obvious shotacon"; same for the one episode we have so far. Again, you're seeing what you want to see.
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Jul 10, 10:24 PM
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@Mr_Sai @voltwaffle @Piromysl Jesus, can you guys gaslight any harder? There is obvious shota fanservice in this anime. You guys are clowns if you can't see it. Fucking retards man.

I've kept up with the manga since it started and not once did I see anything that was "obvious shotacon"; same for the one episode we have so far. Again, you're seeing what you want to see.
@voltwaffle your stupidity know no bounds, and your morals border on the lines of pedophillia. you truly are a disturbed individual. please never have children, you aren't fit for it, and the kids don't deserve such a poor parental figure.
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@voltwaffle your stupidity know no bounds, and your morals border on the lines of pedophillia. you truly are a disturbed individual. please never have children, you aren't fit for it, and the kids don't deserve such a poor parental figure.

Projecting now lol
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Jul 11, 2:48 AM
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@Mr_Sai @voltwaffle @Piromysl Jesus, can you guys gaslight any harder? There is obvious shota fanservice in this anime. You guys are clowns if you can't see it. Fucking retards man.
@ex_necross these people have are so much into porn (at this point the lowest level of it) that they can't see when something isn't normal anymore. That's why they go on full defensive with things like "you are projecting", etc. It's just sad really.
Jul 11, 4:22 AM

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@Mr_Sai @voltwaffle @Piromysl Jesus, can you guys gaslight any harder? There is obvious shota fanservice in this anime. You guys are clowns if you can't see it. Fucking retards man.

I've kept up with the manga since it started and not once did I see anything that was "obvious shotacon"; same for the one episode we have so far. Again, you're seeing what you want to see.
@voltwaffle This is not even an argument, it's just a fact. Look at page 1 for manga examples of literally what I was talking about. It's not about my preferences, you have no idea what my preferences are. It's about using your brain. Again, you're fucking retarded if you can't see what's right in front of you. It's not even "undertones". It's just there. It's fanservice like any other. BL circles are gonna have a field day with this one.
Jul 11, 4:54 AM

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ex_necross said:
@voltwaffle This is not even an argument, it's just a fact. Look at page 1 for manga examples of literally what I was talking about. It's not about my preferences, you have no idea what my preferences are. It's about using your brain. Again, you're fucking retarded if you can't see what's right in front of you. It's not even "undertones". It's just there. It's fanservice like any other. BL circles are gonna have a field day with this one.

Like I said before, I've actually read this manga from the start and I know the dynamic between Suwa and Takauji is like father and son. Screencaps of a single page or frame taken out of context mean nothing; especially when they don't show anything close to what you're claiming.
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Jul 11, 5:02 AM

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Penteano said:
@ex_necross these people have are so much into porn (at this point the lowest level of it) that they can't see when something isn't normal anymore. That's why they go on full defensive with things like "you are projecting", etc. It's just sad really.

I said that I've read the manga and didn't see obvious shotacon and the dude flipped the fuck out. He's either projecting or trolling.
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Jul 11, 9:22 AM
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Seems like Shota fan service to me, AND I AM HERE FOR IT ๐Ÿ˜ค๐Ÿ˜ค
Jul 11, 10:06 AM

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@voltwaffle This is not even an argument, it's just a fact. Look at page 1 for manga examples of literally what I was talking about. It's not about my preferences, you have no idea what my preferences are. It's about using your brain. Again, you're fucking retarded if you can't see what's right in front of you. It's not even "undertones". It's just there. It's fanservice like any other. BL circles are gonna have a field day with this one.

Like I said before, I've actually read this manga from the start and I know the dynamic between Suwa and Takauji is like father and son. Screencaps of a single page or frame taken out of context mean nothing; especially when they don't show anything close to what you're claiming.
@voltwaffle bro in the beginning of the second chapter, Mr molester is literally pondering where he can get away with kissing MC while he's sleeping. ใ€Œใปใฃใบใซๅฃใคใ‘ใ™ใ‚‹ไฝใชใ‚‰ใ„ใ„ใ‚“ใงใ—ใ‚‡ใ†ใ€ใ€‚ If this is a father son relationship for you, then I'm so sorry and you need to report your father right away. It's not OK that this happened to you and you don't have to fight this battle alone. There are many resources available to help you.

Jokes aside, I live in Japan, married to a japanese artist who is heavily invested in otaku / BL culture, speak Japanese fluently etc, so this topic is probably not fair for you (even though you should be able to see what's right in front of your face), but most of the discussion of this manga online from the JP side revolves around the shota / BL pandering. ใ€Ž้€ƒใ’ไธŠๆ‰‹ใฎ่‹ฅๅ›ใ€ใฎๆพไบ•ๅ…ˆ็”Ÿใ€1่ฉฑ็›ฎใ‹ใ‚‰ใ‚ทใƒงใ‚ฟๅฅฝใๆ€ง็™–ใ‚’้š ใ•ใชใใชใ‚‹ - "Matsui can't hide his love for shota", ใ€Œใ‚ทใƒงใ‚ฟใ‚ณใƒณใชใ‚ธใƒฃใƒณใƒ—ไฝœๅฎถใฃใฆใ„ใฃใฑใ„ใ„ใ‚‹ใ‹ใ‚‰ใญ…ใ€-"Apparently there's a lot of JUMP authors who are shotacons.."

Just search "้€ƒใ’ไธŠๆ‰‹ใ‚ทใƒงใ‚ฟ"

It's part of Japanese culture. Shota isn't as weird over there and it is often included in pop culture even today. So it's ok if you're ignorant to it, but don't tell me that I can't see what's in front of my eyes. This show is shota bait.
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Jul 11, 12:38 PM

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yeah I kinda got a bit of that vibe too. Someone chose to draw the character making that kinda odd blushing face. I get in the scene he's supposed to be exhilarated but I feel like they did lean into giving him the kinda expression you see in sexual scenarios. the half lidded eyes, blush and smirk. that combined with the manga panel someone linked makes it even more suspect
Jul 11, 3:30 PM
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Spoiler free tl;dr- OP has woke issues.

Anime is chill, enjoy folks ๐ŸคŒ


Edit: just re-read the OP's initial post, and will amend my statement somewhat: OP is chill too (though still needs to work on woke-issues. but hey, great progress so far!)
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Jul 11, 4:00 PM

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cool.
i will start watching it right away.
HACKs! ๐Ÿคข๐Ÿคฎ
Jul 12, 3:39 PM
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It's very clearly Shota fanservice and that one bedroom eye scene has already inspired a ton of great art on X, this anime seems to be very popular with Japanese artists.
Jul 13, 1:16 AM
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Yeah seems like it. The priest likes boys. Yep, checks out.

I think it's hilarious in a cursed way. Doesn't stop me from enjoying the show though.
Jul 13, 3:04 AM

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Guys, is it weird to not think of sexualised kids when you see a fully clothed boy?

Jul 13, 9:59 AM

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@KuroCiel i checked your profile like favorites and youre the most convincing manga reader so far
@deg Thank you. I take my MAL life serious nowadays since I've become very active here again
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Yeah seems like it. The priest likes boys. Yep, checks out.

I think it's hilarious in a cursed way. Doesn't stop me from enjoying the show though.
@Zefiroj yep its shota bait but i agree it does not stop me from enjoying the show too
Jul 13, 11:19 AM
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From historical point the pre-Meiji period have many evidence that the same-sex relationship between adult and young boy not only exist but also allow, especially in samurai society and priest society, and our protagonist is belong to both societies, so the chance is quite high...
Jul 13, 11:50 AM
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lol im shotacon now too huh ok
@deg Yeah apparently you are. because YOU saw shotacon in this episode so its on YOU
Jul 13, 11:51 AM
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@Neko_Arashi im enjoying the show this is not a hate thread its just curiosity especially directed at manga readers
@deg This is absolutely a hate thread don't try and deny that because you're getting called out ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
Jul 13, 11:51 AM

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@deg Yeah apparently you are. because YOU saw shotacon in this episode so its on YOU
@Dukino its not just me if you saw japan twitter and the comments on this thread
Jul 13, 11:52 AM

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@deg This is absolutely a hate thread don't try and deny that because you're getting called out ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
@Dukino ye whatever again im enjoying the show
Jul 13, 11:52 AM
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@Merve2Love again look at the drawn facial expression and how sexualize it is and this is japan the land of sexualizing things
@deg Jesus Christ you're assuming everything aren't you ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ blushing because of nearly dying is sexualized now??????
Jul 13, 11:53 AM

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@deg Jesus Christ you're assuming everything aren't you ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ blushing because of nearly dying is sexualized now??????
@Dukino youre in denial if you do not think that facial expression is sexual its shota bait thats fine
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@Dukino ye whatever again im enjoying the show
@deg Obviously you're not of you think its shotacon and sexualized youre not enjoying it ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
Jul 13, 11:54 AM
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@Dukino its not just me if you saw japan twitter and the comments on this thread
@deg YOU saw what YOU wanted to see. Go look at the early comments on this thread
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@deg Obviously you're not of you think its shotacon and sexualized youre not enjoying it ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
@Dukino im not exactly straight so im fine with shota baits
Jul 13, 11:54 AM

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@deg YOU saw what YOU wanted to see. Go look at the early comments on this thread
@Dukino and look at the later comments on this thread
Jul 13, 12:44 PM

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It's funny how people refuse to believe this is made for shotacon in mind lol.

This has the same author as Assassination Classroom so it's weird if you don't see the connection.
@Yuu_Kanzaki Was there any shota content in Assassination Classroom?
Jul 13, 5:28 PM

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Seems like a litmus test to me.
@Piromysl Let em knowwww
Jul 13, 7:04 PM

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@Yuu_Kanzaki Was there any shota content in Assassination Classroom?
@RobertBobert No, but Nagisa is drawn to look younger than his peers and also super feminine. Which is substantial enough for people to assume this is done on purpose to appeal to shota fans. If that was the case, what's bad about it?
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A shame it's apparently not that, i mean, how long has it been since we had a good shotacon anime? (not counting the thicc boy mage from last season, that boy only cared for magic)
but it is what it is tho

ugh please touch grass ๐Ÿ˜ญ
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Rick-Ryon said:
A shame it's apparently not that, i mean, how long has it been since we had a good shotacon anime? (not counting the thicc boy mage from last season, that boy only cared for magic)
but it is what it is tho

ugh please touch grass ๐Ÿ˜ญ
@alfsta its just an anime man, calm down
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