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Jul 9, 12:44 AM
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anyone feeling the shotacon undertone too? i do not mind to be honest but for manga readers is the shotacon undertone gonna get worse or only the first episode is like this?


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Jul 9, 1:00 AM
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Seems like a litmus test to me.
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Jul 9, 1:36 AM
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I think you're just seeing what you want to see
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Jul 9, 1:49 AM
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thats one way to tell on yourself
Jul 9, 1:52 AM
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lol im shotacon now too huh ok
Jul 9, 2:11 AM
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I saw great animation, great characters and a seriously well made attempt to get the horrors of losing family and friends across to an audience while still being entertaining. You saw a shota. Not everyone watches in the same way I guess…
Jul 9, 2:12 AM
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I saw great animation, great characters and a seriously well made attempt to get the horrors of losing family and friends across to an audience while still being entertaining. You saw a shota. Not everyone watches in the same way I guess…
@FutoiOtaku i saw all of that too not just the shota
Jul 9, 2:16 AM
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you have to be a troll, it's not ped**hilia dude.
Jul 9, 2:17 AM
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you have to be a troll, it's not ped**hilia dude.
@PinkHeart19 im not trolling and lolicon and shotacon is part of anime and manga for a long time now even if westerners like you call it pedophilia
Jul 9, 2:29 AM
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@FutoiOtaku i saw all of that too not just the shota

I saw a young kid in a high position in society who probably had better medical care and diet and therefore better skin than most commoners around him and was probably dressed and groomed well due to family supremacy and wealth. Maybe even a bit of makeup, as was common in the ruling classes of the time. Now you’ve raised this point, which is as you say a thing with Japanese entertainment culture, I’ll be interested in how his appearance changes or not while trying to evade enemies searching for a well off child of a wealthy family.
Jul 9, 2:30 AM
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deg said:
anyone feeling the shotacon undertone too? i do not mind to be honest but for manga readers is the shotacon undertone gonna get worse or only the first episode is like this?



I mean
You can clearly see the vexation mark on his forehead
Either you didn't see it or you're expecting something else.
And as for the second pic, I don't even need to explain since you watched the anime
If you didn't understand then stop watching
Jul 9, 2:34 AM

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deg said:
anyone feeling the shotacon undertone too? i do not mind to be honest but for manga readers is the shotacon undertone gonna get worse or only the first episode is like this?



I mean
You can clearly see the vexation mark on his forehead
Either you didn't see it or you're expecting something else.
And as for the second pic, I don't even need to explain since you watched the anime
If you didn't understand then stop watching
@Neko_Arashi im enjoying the show this is not a hate thread its just curiosity especially directed at manga readers
Jul 9, 2:57 AM

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@Neko_Arashi

japan has a sex culture and anime is no exception so yes i was expecting sexualization on those kind of drawings and poses and even dialogues

again im not hating
Jul 9, 3:02 AM

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deg said:
@FutoiOtaku i saw all of that too not just the shota

I saw a young kid in a high position in society who probably had better medical care and diet and therefore better skin than most commoners around him and was probably dressed and groomed well due to family supremacy and wealth. Maybe even a bit of makeup, as was common in the ruling classes of the time. Now you’ve raised this point, which is as you say a thing with Japanese entertainment culture, I’ll be interested in how his appearance changes or not while trying to evade enemies searching for a well off child of a wealthy family.
@FutoiOtaku i bet he will still look a pretty boy shota even after battles
Jul 9, 3:08 AM
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Not really they'll have a pretty wholesome father-son relationship
Jul 9, 3:09 AM

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Not really they'll have a pretty wholesome father-son relationship
@EtherLux finally an answer by a manga reader thanks
Jul 9, 3:22 AM

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Not really they'll have a pretty wholesome father-son relationship
@EtherLux but btw is this shotacon jokes gonna be common? again im not hating just curious

Jul 9, 3:28 AM
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deg said:
@EtherLux but btw is this shotacon jokes gonna be common? again im not hating just curious


they're pretty few and far between imo. Didnt ruin my enjoyment of this otherwise of this truly great manga. Also the priest has some motivations that are not so pure (not meaning sexual)
Jul 9, 3:32 AM

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@EtherLux but btw is this shotacon jokes gonna be common? again im not hating just curious


they're pretty few and far between imo. Didnt ruin my enjoyment of this otherwise of this truly great manga. Also the priest has some motivations that are not so pure (not meaning sexual)
@EtherLux ah ok thanks for the info
Jul 9, 4:15 AM
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is this anime really good?
Jul 9, 4:17 AM

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is this anime really good?
@NickTheNick i say yes its about a coward samurai and how he will fight a very strong samurai and the animation aka sakuga is amazing
Jul 9, 4:18 AM
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It's baffling the amount of people who just don't understand your question. Not only was it directed toward manga readers but you also got blasted from asking a completely viable question.

I also questioned their future relationship and overall tones and dynamics from that scene, knowing it's more of an wholesome one is neat.

Don't have anything against shotacon and people who like it, just not my cup of tee.
Jul 9, 4:20 AM

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It's baffling the amount of people who just don't understand your question. Not only was it directed toward manga readers but you also got blasted from asking a completely viable question.

I also questioned their future relationship and overall tones and dynamics from that scene, knowing it's more of an wholesome one is neat.

Don't have anything against shotacon and people who like it, just not my cup of tee.
@HP_Lovecat ye but im kinda use to it by now since as they say the internet is full of hate

i got nothing against shotacons and even lolicons too im just neutral on it
Jul 9, 4:24 AM
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@deg Thanks for the reply
Jul 9, 5:37 AM

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It's funny how people refuse to believe this is made for shotacon in mind lol.

This has the same author as Assassination Classroom so it's weird if you don't see the connection.
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Jul 9, 5:44 AM

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I was into shotacon when I was a teen, but now... yeah no. Thank my parents for finding out and beat the shit out of me c:
Unfortunately, the shotacon aspect is strong in this series, soooo... yeah Shota-lovers will have fun! Just scared that it will scare others away.
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Jul 9, 6:11 AM
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If you’re asking in regards to him and Yorishige’s relationship, he just finds Tokiyuki adorable like his own child and just wants to dote on him with love, like he would his own kid. And since it’s partially a comedy anime, it’s definitely ramped up to be over exaggerated. It doesn’t push any further than him being a father figure.


In regards to his blushing in the first picture, he finds fleeing and escaping tense situations to be exhilarating and often blushes in excitement when doing it. There he was pissed off at Yorishige for what he did, but excited that he got away at the same time.

Just the way shotacons would perceive the anime in general, I definitely think they like Tokiyuki lol
Jul 9, 6:16 AM

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I hope so, no other reason to watch it
Jul 9, 6:27 AM

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A shame it's apparently not that, i mean, how long has it been since we had a good shotacon anime? (not counting the thicc boy mage from last season, that boy only cared for magic)
but it is what it is tho
Jul 9, 6:35 AM

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A shame it's apparently not that, i mean, how long has it been since we had a good shotacon anime? (not counting the thicc boy mage from last season, that boy only cared for magic)
but it is what it is tho
@Rick-Ryon well i did say undertone so think like softcore shotacon and not hardcore shotacon i guess
Jul 9, 7:06 AM

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@Rick-Ryon well i did say undertone so think like softcore shotacon and not hardcore shotacon i guess
@deg true but we know now that it's a rare occurance and only played as comedy (most likely) so...yeah, it's better than nothing, but not that much better imo
Jul 9, 7:38 AM
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Can't even be a 10 year old kid from the ruling class in feudal japan anymore 😔

Anyways, I'll leave you with one of the funnier jokes, relatively spoiler free unless you count the 2 years time skip

Jul 9, 9:14 AM

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Its just a boy hugging/holding on to someone...

Slow down, Keyboard-Warriors xD
Jul 9, 10:10 AM

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I was into shotacon when I was a teen, but now... yeah no. Thank my parents for finding out and beat the shit out of me c:
Unfortunately, the shotacon aspect is strong in this series, soooo... yeah Shota-lovers will have fun! Just scared that it will scare others away.
@KuroCiel i checked your profile like favorites and youre the most convincing manga reader so far
Jul 9, 10:39 AM

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It’s weird they made him ridiculously cute for a boy, but least he isn’t sexualized like they do with young girls in anime. I get your point tho, especially with that blushing scene, but it’s probably not so bad that it should be off putting. Give it 3 eps and see
Jul 9, 2:13 PM

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Its just a boy hugging/holding on to someone...

Slow down, Keyboard-Warriors xD
@Merve2Love some manga readers already confirmed the shotacon undertone and you still downplaying it
Jul 9, 2:14 PM

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It’s weird they made him ridiculously cute for a boy, but least he isn’t sexualized like they do with young girls in anime. I get your point tho, especially with that blushing scene, but it’s probably not so bad that it should be off putting. Give it 3 eps and see
@Animillion im gonna finish watching this because its a sakuga fest again by umehara so ye im not hating just curious
Jul 9, 2:14 PM

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@Merve2Love some manga readers already confirmed the shotacon undertone and you still downplaying it
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Not downplaying.

Saying that a boy hugging a man who supported him doesn't show any undertones, is what I did.
Jul 9, 2:19 PM

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@deg

Not downplaying.

Saying that a boy hugging a man who supported him doesn't show any undertones, is what I did.
@Merve2Love manga readers read ahead and thats why i ask about future episodes and they confirmed it

again japan sexualizes a lot of stuff so facial expressions like that are not far away from being sexual too
Jul 9, 2:20 PM

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@Merve2Love manga readers read ahead and thats why i ask about future episodes and they confirmed it

again japan sexualizes a lot of stuff so facial expressions like that are not far away from being sexual too
@deg

Thats good^^

Still: A little boy hugging a man that has been nice to him means nothing.
That was all I was saying :)

You need to read.
Jul 9, 2:22 PM

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Thats good^^

Still: A little boy hugging a man that has been nice to him means nothing.
That was all I was saying :)

You need to read.
@Merve2Love nice to him? you did not watch the episode arent you? you need to watch
Jul 9, 2:25 PM

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@Merve2Love nice to him? you did not watch the episode arent you? you need to watch
@deg

You're referring to him pushing the boy over the cliff, huh?^^

Now, I know you're a bit angry ( as usual ) ....but that WAS a nice thing to do, turns out in the end, didn't it?

The dialogue. The conclusion to this scene?
Remember: Before that scene, the boy wanted to kill himself. After that scene he was taken in by the man, happy to be alive? :)
No?....Hm....

Guess you're right. Guess we didn't see the same Show.
Jul 9, 2:26 PM

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You're referring to him pushing the boy over the cliff, huh?^^

Now, I know you're a bit angry ( as usual ) ....but that WAS a nice thing to do, turns out in the end, didn't it?

The dialogue. The conclusion to this scene?
Remember: Before that scene, the boy wanted to kill himself. After that scene he was taken in by the man, happy to be alive? :)
No?....Hm....

Guess you're right. Guess we didn't see the same Show.
@Merve2Love again look at the drawn facial expression and how sexualize it is and this is japan the land of sexualizing things
Jul 9, 2:27 PM

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@Merve2Love again look at the drawn facial expression and how sexualize it is and this is japan the land of sexualizing things
@deg

Oh, we're abandoning the discussion about that scene, now?^^
Damn, you beat me again.

You win^^
Jul 9, 2:29 PM

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Oh, we're abandoning the discussion about that scene, now?^^
Damn, you beat me again.

You win^^
@Merve2Love your passive aggressiveness will surely bite back at you one day
Jul 9, 2:31 PM

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@Merve2Love your passive aggressiveness will surely bite back at you one day
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Dunno what you mean.

Im talking about the series. Specific scenes, even.
You're talking about my character xD

If I really AM passive agressive....you're just agressive^^

Jul 9, 2:32 PM

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Dunno what you mean.

Im talking about the series. Specific scenes, even.
You're talking about my character xD

If I really AM passive agressive....you're just agressive^^

@Merve2Love really you did talk about keyboard warriors first so who are you referring to?
Jul 9, 2:34 PM

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@Merve2Love really you did talk about keyboard warriors first so who are you referring to?
@deg

Yeah? That was too much?^^
I think it's kinda overly enthusiastic to make Thread about Yaoi-Shota-Vibes. That's just my opinion

If that hurt your feelings Im, of course, very sorry.
Jul 9, 2:35 PM

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Yeah? That was too much?^^
I think it's kinda overly enthusiastic to make Thread about Yaoi-Shota-Vibes. That's just my opinion

If that hurt your feelings Im, of course, very sorry.
@Merve2Love again passive aggressiveness is what i hate and youre good at it

im not hating on the shota yaoi vibes just curious on how future episodes will be about it
Jul 9, 2:36 PM

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@Merve2Love again passive aggressiveness is what i hate and youre good at it

im not hating on the shota yaoi vibes just curious on how future episodes will be about it
@deg

I didn't say that^^
You do you.

I just gave my 2 Cents.
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