| The Japanese irony/cynicism shines through, which makes it more human overall than series posted on CN/AS which are cynical woke-ventures of idiocy. The Japanese don't woke which is why all that garbage is sh#t. I was surprised how correctly they portrayed joker in a single setup compared to how we've rounded him into a corner over the decades. He actually had the glint of madness again and wasn't being overpowered by batman. Japanime is good because easterners do things you don't expect, it's like a tang in a wing sauce or something, that eastern flair. When you try to reduce Japanime to something you can corporately control you're basically crapping in your diaper and selling it on the street. I liked episode 1 a lot, I need to finish rewatching it because I was half paying attention for a moment, but mixing it with isekai is the kind of brave idiocy I love. |
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annabloem said:
Which is?
But yes, Japanese anime focuses on it's own audience, most of Japan does not care about the world outside Japan at all. But you've clearly never read Japanese literature if you think pretentious high IQ stuff is a Hollywood thing and not found in Japan
Koyorides_ said:
japan in general does see trans people or gay people for what they are
japan in general does see trans people or gay people for what they are
Which is?
But yes, Japanese anime focuses on it's own audience, most of Japan does not care about the world outside Japan at all. But you've clearly never read Japanese literature if you think pretentious high IQ stuff is a Hollywood thing and not found in Japan
Men or women according to their biological gender
It's common in Asia and Africa
Im not saying animes do not have yuris or yaois or whatever,but it's a clear influence from the west because it wasn't that much popular as it is now
| @texasdes texasdes said: Men or women according to their biological gender that's not my experience living in rural Japan. I have a trans colleague (MTF) who is treated as female, not male. They are more likely to have prejudice against people for being foreign than for being LGBTQ. Of course, there are definitely also bigots in Japan. There's also a lot more ignorance about LGBTQ, so a lot of people just haven't heard of it, but when they get it explained, they usually are pretty accepting (again, in my experience in rural Japan) Yaoi/shounen ai has been around since the 1970 (and that's just the actual term, not necessarily the genre). It's the most popular in doujinshi circles which get published only in Japanese and don't get translated, so I really don't see how you think that's because of the west, since most yaoi content never even reaches the west. Going back even further, gay and trans relations have always been a part of Japanese culture. Look at the first novel, Genji Monogatari by Murasaki Shikibu, which has several gay relationships. It's from 1021, I believe? In fact, the taboo on gayness was brought from the West during the Meiji period. So without the west, there would have never even been a taboo on gayness. Not saying there aren't bigots, just saying you got the history kinda mixed up. I do agree that they see gay or trans people the way they are, but I'm not sure you'd see them the same way, looking at your comments. |
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texasdes said:
In anime trans people are otokonoko
In anime trans people are otokonoko
Otokonoko are not trans people. They're traps/crossdressers.
| @oappo otoko no ko is literally just the word for boy... It has nothing to do with trans/trap/crossdressing. |
Reply to ArbyMaster458
I don’t know about anyone else who’s posted in this discussion, but as someone who spent a lot of his elementary school days checking out comics at the local library, and being an anime fan, so far Suicide Squad ISEKAI has not disappointed me. I just enjoy seeing some of the comics series I grew up reading being animated with an anime aesthetic like Catwoman: Hunted. The Suicide Squad being put in an isekai plot with their bodies enhanced due to being in another world is very Suicide Squad, nothing too complex. I don’t think it’s desperate at all from what I’ve seen so far. The animated stuff from DCAU if put in good hands will deliver, not like most of the live action movies from the DCEU line-up. Simple as this sounds, I just like seeing something new that keeps me invested in each episode.
| @ArbyMaster458 I agree, I feel like it meshes way better than I expected, and turned into a really enjoyable anime so far! |
Reply to YungCookie
@CrunchyCrobat @texasdes He doesn't know Japanese. Otokonoko means boy, not trans. He's clueless don't argue with him.
| @YungCookie You're very right. He's also very wrong about the history/opinion of gayness etc in Japan so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
Reply to phantom346
How is that a problem? If you're saying this is an ad for American Comics, to make people read them, I don't see the problem here. People can read or watch whatever they want.
It's a nice ad.
It's a nice ad.
phantom346 said: If you're saying this is an ad for American Comics, to make people read them, I don't see the problem here Biggest cope of the thread (even if you didn't intend to make it so). There's very little Big 2 can ultimately do to bolster western cb sales, and outsourcing an anime heavily based on 2016 mediocrity of a film to Japan isn't one of them. As for me... Sigh, I just wish Warner Bros. would stop pushing Suicide Squad down my throat. It didn't work for Hollywood; it almost broke the spine of video game studio, and I don't see a future where this title brings IP to success WB marketologists for some reason see in it. |
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@annabloem I don't think this viewpoint is really supported according to your own logic and experience (I don't think you know the entirety of Tokyo in itself)but rural areas which comprises most of Japan do not support whatever you say
For example girls band cry the latest anime showed a rural girl getting surprised by a gay guy and saying " Oh wow Tokyo is different" so if you want to call out homophobia please cry it to the japanese and not me
For example girls band cry the latest anime showed a rural girl getting surprised by a gay guy and saying " Oh wow Tokyo is different" so if you want to call out homophobia please cry it to the japanese and not me
| @texasdes I never said to encompass most of Japan. I specifically mentioned I live in Rural Japan, so not sure why you even bring up Tokyo? I also mentioned that a lot of people just don't know about it, which is what your example shows as well. Besides, your literally using an anime to prove your point... which isn't very strong tbh. anyway, look into the history and you might see where you are wrong ^^ |
texasdes said: diversity messages texasdes said: I just don't want anime to be as stale as Hollywood rn just pushing "The message" or the brand for that matter And... opinion discarded. like really, anime industry is doing literally the same but you are just biased because JAPAN. You are literally reading Spy x Family which has strong antiwar message and have "Oshi no Ko" which is showing how f*cked up entertainment industry is. Also I really wonder what you meant by "certain inclusions that I cannot name here"... |
| Manga recommendation: - Spy x Family (Ch.107/? - biweekly) | Sakamoto Days (Ch.191/? - weekly) - MARRIAGETOXIN (Ch.108/? - weekly) | Machi and Oboro (Ch.16/? - biweekly) - Make the Exorcist Fall in Love (Ch.78/? - biweekly) - You and I Are Polar Opposites (Ch.65 - Finished) Anime recommendation: - Deca-Dence (Finished) | Wave, Listen to Me! (Finished) - If My Favorite Pop Idol Made It to the Budokan, I Would Die (Finished) - Diary of Our Days at the Breakwater (Finished) |
| I could tell that right away when I saw that a streamer with fanatics was doing the ED song. And wow, that ED was cringe. |
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annabloem said:
@texasdes I never said to encompass most of Japan. I specifically mentioned I live in Rural Japan, so not sure why you even bring up Tokyo?
I also mentioned that a lot of people just don't know about it, which is what your example shows as well. Besides, your literally using an anime to prove your point... which isn't very strong tbh. anyway, look into the history and you might see where you are wrong ^^
@texasdes I never said to encompass most of Japan. I specifically mentioned I live in Rural Japan, so not sure why you even bring up Tokyo?
I also mentioned that a lot of people just don't know about it, which is what your example shows as well. Besides, your literally using an anime to prove your point... which isn't very strong tbh. anyway, look into the history and you might see where you are wrong ^^
Animes are the common denominator for most people's idea on japan,and even then a single person who has lives in one single area cannot speak for the entirety of a country
There are people who do not accept these things right in the heart of tokyo
| @texasdes Look, if you think anime = Japan you're in for a rude awakening. Especially if you're only focusing on translated anime. I've given you sources in Japanese literature from more than a 1000 years ago. I've read scientific studies about it (they exist, in fact, yaoi/yuri in doujinshi is a very well-researched subject in anthropology about Japan, because it's so different from the West) which I could give you, but facts don't seem to change your opinion at all, so... yeah. "Anime are the most common denominator for most people's idea on Japan" is not necessarily true, depending on where the people are from and their age group. History buffs have a whole different view on japan. People who love literature have again another idea about Japan, since Japanese literature is getting world-wide recognition. But even if what you say is true, just because it happens in anime doesn't mean it's true. "Hollywood is the most common denominator for most people's idea of America" but I'd still assume that an average American doesn't live the same life as the average person in a Hollywood film... There are people who do not accept these things everywhere in the world. But to state that gayness is new/brought to Japan by the West is historically wrong (again, you can look for scientific sources for this, the taboo on gayness was brought by the west in the Meiji period, before that, there was no taboo at all) So basically Ancient Japan: gayness is fine, no big deal. Meiji period: the West comes and greatly influences Japan: Gay = bad!! 1970s yuri/yaoi gains a LOT of popularity, Japan goes back to being what it was before Western interference, which is gay = no big deal. Again, people in rural Japan are more biased against foreigners (all of them, western/asian/african) than against gay people. On average people literally don't care what you do or who you love. |
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@annabloem I know. But iirc there's another variant with different kanji(I might be misremembering this part) and the meaning of "male daughter" or something. I recall that being occasionally brought up in earlier years back when "trap" was more common terminology.
| @oappo Oooh interesting! Did some googling, and you are right! It's 男の娘 or otoko no musume, which would be daughter of a man! I had never heard of it, but apparently it became a thing in the 2000s and is pronounced just like boy, which would make it pretty hard to distinguish without using kanji. Apparently it's a term mostly used in Japanese online otaku culture! Learned something new today! |
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annabloem said:
@texasdes Look, if you think anime = Japan you're in for a rude awakening. Especially if you're only focusing on translated anime.
I've given you sources in Japanese literature from more than a 1000 years ago. I've read scientific studies about it (they exist, in fact, yaoi/yuri in doujinshi is a very well-researched subject in anthropology about Japan, because it's so different from the West) which I could give you, but facts don't seem to change your opinion at all, so... yeah.
"Anime are the most common denominator for most people's idea on Japan" is not necessarily true, depending on where the people are from and their age group. History buffs have a whole different view on japan. People who love literature have again another idea about Japan, since Japanese literature is getting world-wide recognition.
But even if what you say is true, just because it happens in anime doesn't mean it's true.
"Hollywood is the most common denominator for most people's idea of America" but I'd still assume that an average American doesn't live the same life as the average person in a Hollywood film...
There are people who do not accept these things everywhere in the world.
But to state that gayness is new/brought to Japan by the West is historically wrong (again, you can look for scientific sources for this, the taboo on gayness was brought by the west in the Meiji period, before that, there was no taboo at all)
So basically Ancient Japan: gayness is fine, no big deal. Meiji period: the West comes and greatly influences Japan: Gay = bad!! 1970s yuri/yaoi gains a LOT of popularity, Japan goes back to being what it was before Western interference, which is gay = no big deal.
Again, people in rural Japan are more biased against foreigners (all of them, western/asian/african) than against gay people. On average people literally don't care what you do or who you love.
@texasdes Look, if you think anime = Japan you're in for a rude awakening. Especially if you're only focusing on translated anime.
I've given you sources in Japanese literature from more than a 1000 years ago. I've read scientific studies about it (they exist, in fact, yaoi/yuri in doujinshi is a very well-researched subject in anthropology about Japan, because it's so different from the West) which I could give you, but facts don't seem to change your opinion at all, so... yeah.
"Anime are the most common denominator for most people's idea on Japan" is not necessarily true, depending on where the people are from and their age group. History buffs have a whole different view on japan. People who love literature have again another idea about Japan, since Japanese literature is getting world-wide recognition.
But even if what you say is true, just because it happens in anime doesn't mean it's true.
"Hollywood is the most common denominator for most people's idea of America" but I'd still assume that an average American doesn't live the same life as the average person in a Hollywood film...
There are people who do not accept these things everywhere in the world.
But to state that gayness is new/brought to Japan by the West is historically wrong (again, you can look for scientific sources for this, the taboo on gayness was brought by the west in the Meiji period, before that, there was no taboo at all)
So basically Ancient Japan: gayness is fine, no big deal. Meiji period: the West comes and greatly influences Japan: Gay = bad!! 1970s yuri/yaoi gains a LOT of popularity, Japan goes back to being what it was before Western interference, which is gay = no big deal.
Again, people in rural Japan are more biased against foreigners (all of them, western/asian/african) than against gay people. On average people literally don't care what you do or who you love.
I was talking about japan more than anime here and the anime was just an example
I have freinds there so I know how it is
| @texasdes If you were talking about anime you might still have an argument... Because you are just not correct about Japan as a whole. I have friends there, a lot of them. I work there. I live there. I have sources. But you don't care. Facts won't change your opinion though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
| So I’m guessing they trolled us with Joker right? Joker is one of the only DC characters I was excited about so hearing that his role isn’t major is a buzzkill |
logopolis said: Do you people complaining about "diversity" realise that the average anime has no white people in it at all? American comics are complete crap, but more diversity can make them a little less crap. The only “diversity” they care about in anime is gays and lesbians. They couldn’t care less about race and disabilities. |
Raptor1986 said: @Landonime no one in the Suicide Squad is gay. Gay characters in DC comics are less than 5% Don't talk about things you don't know, and I guess you're the first to whine if someone criticizes your favorite anime. They have a series specially dedicated to making Harley Quinn lesbian now, so… |
| Capeshit?! In my isekai? More likely than you think. |
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Reply to VelCake
Complaining about diversity in a place that's made for absolute weebs and social outcasts (here) is an irony that isn't lost on me. Jfc, OP, be real right now. Being a transphobe and racist won't make society look at you any better, you're still an otaku and you don't get any more clemency 🤣
VelCake said: Complaining about diversity in a place that's made for absolute weebs and social outcasts (here) is an irony that isn't lost on me. Jfc, OP, be real right now. Being a transphobe and racist won't make society look at you any better, you're still an otaku and you don't get any more clemency 🤣 Friendly reminder that anyone complaining about diversity or "woke" is just a tourist who doesn't care much for anime. |
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There are thousands of koyorides_. texasdes. They watch anime but don't actually care about it besides it being a product. Yeah, anime are just ads for light novel and manga sells in Japan, but within the last decade anime has slowly started to change. More studios have been doing original creations or giving more niche manga/light novels a chance to be made into a production. DC has been giving b tier anime studios work for years. And Warner brothers have been working with anime studios before you were even born. But original works like this are nice because this would have easily just been one of the many straight to DVD DC movies (those are average at best, but some are really decent) but they didn't. I think their last DC anime was Batman Ninja? That animation studio was only known for the jojo intros, relentlessly praised by weebs. Yeah, now they are working on Sandland for the cgi. I expected a Dragon Quest anime before seeing Sandland get adapted. If you had shown me Dungeon Meshi in the past and told me trigger made it, I wouldn't have blinked, but I would have been shocked how well it was doing with viewers.
I live for this experimental shit. If you didn't understand what Space Dandy or Chainsaw Man (I fucking hate chainsaw man as a show) were doing and how cool it was, then you just aren't a fan of anime as a whole. I love anime when it's actually trying. I love it when Japanese studios allow creative collaboration from other countries at different career levels. It's more common than you think, and it usually leads to some amazing stuff.
For a site made to keep track of what anime or manga you have watched and read, I would think discussions about the industry and the artist, voice actors, directors etc. would be encouraged.
Not another person taking time out of their day to make a thread about western influence putting their dirty desperate diversity enabling hands on my precious pristine Japanese anime.
I live for this experimental shit. If you didn't understand what Space Dandy or Chainsaw Man (I fucking hate chainsaw man as a show) were doing and how cool it was, then you just aren't a fan of anime as a whole. I love anime when it's actually trying. I love it when Japanese studios allow creative collaboration from other countries at different career levels. It's more common than you think, and it usually leads to some amazing stuff.
For a site made to keep track of what anime or manga you have watched and read, I would think discussions about the industry and the artist, voice actors, directors etc. would be encouraged.
Not another person taking time out of their day to make a thread about western influence putting their dirty desperate diversity enabling hands on my precious pristine Japanese anime.
Wevi said: There are thousands of koyorides_. texasdes. They watch anime but don't actually care about it besides it being a product. Yeah, anime are just ads for light novel and manga sells in Japan, but within the last decade anime has slowly started to change. More studios have been doing original creations or giving more niche manga/light novels a chance to be made into a production. DC has been giving b tier anime studios work for years. And Warner brothers have been working with anime studios before you were even born. But original works like this are nice because this would have easily just been one of the many straight to DVD DC movies (those are average at best, but some are really decent) but they didn't. I think their last DC anime was Batman Ninja? That animation studio was only known for the jojo intros, relentlessly praised by weebs. Yeah, now they are working on Sandland for the cgi. I expected a Dragon Quest anime before seeing Sandland get adapted. If you had shown me Dungeon Meshi in the past and told me trigger made it, I wouldn't have blinked, but I would have been shocked how well it was doing with viewers. I live for this experimental shit. If you didn't understand what Space Dandy or Chainsaw Man (I fucking hate chainsaw man as a show) were doing and how cool it was, then you just aren't a fan of anime as a whole. I love anime when it's actually trying. I love it when Japanese studios allow creative collaboration from other countries at different career levels. It's more common than you think, and it usually leads to some amazing stuff. For a site made to keep track of what anime or manga you have watched and read, I would think discussions about the industry and the artist, voice actors, directors etc. would be encouraged. Not another person taking time out of their day to make a thread about western influence putting their dirty desperate diversity enabling hands on my precious pristine Japanese anime. People like that are a bizarre anomaly. I sincerely hope OP is trolling. |
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@Koyorides_
There are not that many names for trans people in Japan, and very few indicate anything about them wearing women's clothing. The technical term for transsexuality would be seibetsu henkan (which translates to change of sex). Transjendaa is also used.
In terms of rude/slang words you have okama, and okege. Okama is usually used in anime when they use transsexuality as a joke. It is also used to reger to effeminate men/ behaviour that is seen as girly.
If you mean that in general, men dressing up as women is used in comedy; definitely, but there's a distinct difference in men dressing up for comedy and being trans.
I'm not going to argue Japan is very trans positive, it isn't. But more in the sense that it isn't much of a topic that gets discussed, and when it does, most people don't care, because they let people be who they are. I'm sorry the terms used in Japan don't fit your bias.
TLDR: men dressing up as woman is used as a joke in japanese culture, yes. But they see this as fundamentally different from people being trans. If you don't see the difference, that's on you.
There are not that many names for trans people in Japan, and very few indicate anything about them wearing women's clothing. The technical term for transsexuality would be seibetsu henkan (which translates to change of sex). Transjendaa is also used.
In terms of rude/slang words you have okama, and okege. Okama is usually used in anime when they use transsexuality as a joke. It is also used to reger to effeminate men/ behaviour that is seen as girly.
If you mean that in general, men dressing up as women is used in comedy; definitely, but there's a distinct difference in men dressing up for comedy and being trans.
I'm not going to argue Japan is very trans positive, it isn't. But more in the sense that it isn't much of a topic that gets discussed, and when it does, most people don't care, because they let people be who they are. I'm sorry the terms used in Japan don't fit your bias.
TLDR: men dressing up as woman is used as a joke in japanese culture, yes. But they see this as fundamentally different from people being trans. If you don't see the difference, that's on you.
annabloem said: @Koyorides_ There are not that many names for trans people in Japan, and very few indicate anything about them wearing women's clothing. The technical term for transsexuality would be seibetsu henkan (which translates to change of sex). Transjendaa is also used. In terms of rude/slang words you have okama, and okege. Okama is usually used in anime when they use transsexuality as a joke. It is also used to reger to effeminate men/ behaviour that is seen as girly. If you mean that in general, men dressing up as women is used in comedy; definitely, but there's a distinct difference in men dressing up for comedy and being trans. I'm not going to argue Japan is very trans positive, it isn't. But more in the sense that it isn't much of a topic that gets discussed, and when it does, most people don't care, because they let people be who they are. I'm sorry the terms used in Japan don't fit your bias. TLDR: men dressing up as woman is used as a joke in japanese culture, yes. But they see this as fundamentally different from people being trans. If you don't see the difference, that's on you. You can't really expect a weeaboo/tourist to know Japanese. |
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@texasdes
that's not my experience living in rural Japan. I have a trans colleague (MTF) who is treated as female, not male.
They are more likely to have prejudice against people for being foreign than for being LGBTQ. Of course, there are definitely also bigots in Japan. There's also a lot more ignorance about LGBTQ, so a lot of people just haven't heard of it, but when they get it explained, they usually are pretty accepting (again, in my experience in rural Japan)
Yaoi/shounen ai has been around since the 1970 (and that's just the actual term, not necessarily the genre). It's the most popular in doujinshi circles which get published only in Japanese and don't get translated, so I really don't see how you think that's because of the west, since most yaoi content never even reaches the west.
Going back even further, gay and trans relations have always been a part of Japanese culture. Look at the first novel, Genji Monogatari by Murasaki Shikibu, which has several gay relationships. It's from 1021, I believe?
In fact, the taboo on gayness was brought from the West during the Meiji period. So without the west, there would have never even been a taboo on gayness. Not saying there aren't bigots, just saying you got the history kinda mixed up.
I do agree that they see gay or trans people the way they are, but I'm not sure you'd see them the same way, looking at your comments.
texasdes said:
Men or women according to their biological gender
Men or women according to their biological gender
that's not my experience living in rural Japan. I have a trans colleague (MTF) who is treated as female, not male.
They are more likely to have prejudice against people for being foreign than for being LGBTQ. Of course, there are definitely also bigots in Japan. There's also a lot more ignorance about LGBTQ, so a lot of people just haven't heard of it, but when they get it explained, they usually are pretty accepting (again, in my experience in rural Japan)
Yaoi/shounen ai has been around since the 1970 (and that's just the actual term, not necessarily the genre). It's the most popular in doujinshi circles which get published only in Japanese and don't get translated, so I really don't see how you think that's because of the west, since most yaoi content never even reaches the west.
Going back even further, gay and trans relations have always been a part of Japanese culture. Look at the first novel, Genji Monogatari by Murasaki Shikibu, which has several gay relationships. It's from 1021, I believe?
In fact, the taboo on gayness was brought from the West during the Meiji period. So without the west, there would have never even been a taboo on gayness. Not saying there aren't bigots, just saying you got the history kinda mixed up.
I do agree that they see gay or trans people the way they are, but I'm not sure you'd see them the same way, looking at your comments.
annabloem said: I do agree that they see gay or trans people the way they are, but I'm not sure you'd see them the same way, looking at your comments. That's a perfect line! |
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@texasdes Look, if you think anime = Japan you're in for a rude awakening. Especially if you're only focusing on translated anime.
I've given you sources in Japanese literature from more than a 1000 years ago. I've read scientific studies about it (they exist, in fact, yaoi/yuri in doujinshi is a very well-researched subject in anthropology about Japan, because it's so different from the West) which I could give you, but facts don't seem to change your opinion at all, so... yeah.
"Anime are the most common denominator for most people's idea on Japan" is not necessarily true, depending on where the people are from and their age group. History buffs have a whole different view on japan. People who love literature have again another idea about Japan, since Japanese literature is getting world-wide recognition.
But even if what you say is true, just because it happens in anime doesn't mean it's true.
"Hollywood is the most common denominator for most people's idea of America" but I'd still assume that an average American doesn't live the same life as the average person in a Hollywood film...
There are people who do not accept these things everywhere in the world.
But to state that gayness is new/brought to Japan by the West is historically wrong (again, you can look for scientific sources for this, the taboo on gayness was brought by the west in the Meiji period, before that, there was no taboo at all)
So basically Ancient Japan: gayness is fine, no big deal. Meiji period: the West comes and greatly influences Japan: Gay = bad!! 1970s yuri/yaoi gains a LOT of popularity, Japan goes back to being what it was before Western interference, which is gay = no big deal.
Again, people in rural Japan are more biased against foreigners (all of them, western/asian/african) than against gay people. On average people literally don't care what you do or who you love.
I've given you sources in Japanese literature from more than a 1000 years ago. I've read scientific studies about it (they exist, in fact, yaoi/yuri in doujinshi is a very well-researched subject in anthropology about Japan, because it's so different from the West) which I could give you, but facts don't seem to change your opinion at all, so... yeah.
"Anime are the most common denominator for most people's idea on Japan" is not necessarily true, depending on where the people are from and their age group. History buffs have a whole different view on japan. People who love literature have again another idea about Japan, since Japanese literature is getting world-wide recognition.
But even if what you say is true, just because it happens in anime doesn't mean it's true.
"Hollywood is the most common denominator for most people's idea of America" but I'd still assume that an average American doesn't live the same life as the average person in a Hollywood film...
There are people who do not accept these things everywhere in the world.
But to state that gayness is new/brought to Japan by the West is historically wrong (again, you can look for scientific sources for this, the taboo on gayness was brought by the west in the Meiji period, before that, there was no taboo at all)
So basically Ancient Japan: gayness is fine, no big deal. Meiji period: the West comes and greatly influences Japan: Gay = bad!! 1970s yuri/yaoi gains a LOT of popularity, Japan goes back to being what it was before Western interference, which is gay = no big deal.
Again, people in rural Japan are more biased against foreigners (all of them, western/asian/african) than against gay people. On average people literally don't care what you do or who you love.
annabloem said: Look, if you think anime = Japan you're in for a rude awakening. That's true. Weeaboos have this false image of what Japan is like. |
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