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| The hydra fight was awesome! Unfortunately I was spoiled about Paul's death, but it was still sad to see him go. |
| This is why Mushoku Tensei is special. Absolutely gut wrenching, episode of the year material. Also the animation team went all out, on par with the best fight scenes of S1. |
| killing paul off on fathers day is something else |
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| Pretty cool how Paul's last moments were aired on Father's day |
| Things went way too well for Rudeus this season.. now his father is dead and his mom is a vegetable from beeing stuck in a crystal for too long. (If only the same thing happened to a certain character from AoT..) I guess man god was right, he really should have never come here. Though then Roxy would be dead.. Lets hope that atleast his family at home is doing better. Good thing his relationship with his sisters is doing well now because he has to be their step dad now.. I was not prepared for an episode this dark.. Rudy might not have considered them his parents, but they were still the closest thing he had in this world. I have to be honest, I was expecting more from Rudy in this fight. I guess he really lacks experience and also just was out of the adventuring life for too long. No single episode has hit me like this in ages and of course it would be from this show .. Im tempted to rewatch the entire show once this is done to compare the Orsted fight to the Hydra one and also to see his early life with his parents again.. |
Comander-07Jun 16, 1:34 PM
| "This emotion is mine alone. It is for Madoka alone." - Homura or how I would descripe Mahou Shoujo Madoka Magica. |
Juukaliz said: **OBVIOUS SPOILERS FOR THIS EPISODE** Okay so i have to get this out, is it just me or wasn't Paul's death Rudeus' fault? Like annyoingly so, like I felt his death could have easily been avoided? I mean they did the same combo of cutting the head and shooting it with fire afterwards with minor scatches untill the very last head. And ON THE VERY LAST HEAD rudy is completely out of it like "Oh yes! One head remaining" and has to be saved by Paul. And everyone is fine when this happens, and then the VERY LAST HEAD even after that close call Rudy still doesn't like pay attention to the ONLY HEAD that can do damage anymore, and so Paul has to save Rudes again costing his life. Like I can't stop thinking about it. It's like so ass it made me start cursing on the screen like what are you doing.. And then after the fight he's all smiling "We did it!! :)))" Not even thinking about if Paul is okay who just clearly saved his ass twice with the second being lethal. Don't get me wrong other than that I absolutely loved the episode and it definitely hit in the feels. Great episode. if you noticed the scene correctly, it did not happen when Rudy was thinking that they have won, but when Roxy and Talhand were attacked by Hydra's tail. He shifted his attention to see if they needed any assistance, that's when the final head almost caught him off guard and Paul had to jump in to save him. |
| I cant get over how they didnt use any ost in that last Paul scene. I know quiet can sometimes be better choice than any music, but it just wasnt the case here. It just felt lazy to have such big scene and no music whatsoever. Imagine this scene with something like "Requiem of silence". Would have been significantly better. |
| The silence was too deafening. im sorry |
| Rip Paul, he fought till the end and saved his son and his wife. Throughout his life he may have been a shity father & husband but he died as a great father & husbend. |
| Rudeus really needs to work on his defense lol Hitogami did warn him. Happy Father's Day |
| I was spoiled but damn, the way things ended, and for what? Rip Paul. O7 This was one of a few instances where I had to wait for a moment after the episode ended, to gather my thoughts before continue watching the other shows that aired today. That rarely happens but S1E16 of MT and now this both left me flabbergasted. Such an 10/10 episode this was. |
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| RIP Paul, fuck those LN readers for spoiling but it still sad to witness. He's not perfect but hes a good father even at the very end. Zenith isn't herself now too, its quite accurate how Rudy points out that Zenith was more like someone they're living with. We never really had much interactions with her. If Rudy follows what Human god said they wouldn't find the Hydra without Rudy so they would probably have more backup that can also cut the hydra's head once Rudy comes and who knows who'll Rudy meet at a Royal family of beasts. But Roxy would've died so ig he still chose the right option |
Reply to NeutroNShivA
I cant get over how they didnt use any ost in that last Paul scene. I know quiet can sometimes be better choice than any music, but it just wasnt the case here. It just felt lazy to have such big scene and no music whatsoever. Imagine this scene with something like "Requiem of silence". Would have been significantly better.
| @NeutroNShivA I preferred it with no music. The silence like you mentioned, only made the place feel more emptier and bleaker, and shit feel more real and impactful that way. Again it can differ depending on the person, but the silence made it feel more raw and emotional for me and less theatrical in a way. The fact that Paul doesn't even speak makes the use of silence even more effective in my opinion. The subtlety and confidence to use a lack of music works here but again, just an opinion from my side. |
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Juukaliz said:
**OBVIOUS SPOILERS FOR THIS EPISODE**
Okay so i have to get this out, is it just me or wasn't Paul's death Rudeus' fault? Like annyoingly so, like I felt his death could have easily been avoided? I mean they did the same combo of cutting the head and shooting it with fire afterwards with minor scatches untill the very last head. And ON THE VERY LAST HEAD rudy is completely out of it like "Oh yes! One head remaining" and has to be saved by Paul. And everyone is fine when this happens, and then the VERY LAST HEAD even after that close call Rudy still doesn't like pay attention to the ONLY HEAD that can do damage anymore, and so Paul has to save Rudes again costing his life.
Like I can't stop thinking about it. It's like so ass it made me start cursing on the screen like what are you doing..
And then after the fight he's all smiling "We did it!! :)))" Not even thinking about if Paul is okay who just clearly saved his ass twice with the second being lethal.
Don't get me wrong other than that I absolutely loved the episode and it definitely hit in the feels. Great episode.
**OBVIOUS SPOILERS FOR THIS EPISODE**
Okay so i have to get this out, is it just me or wasn't Paul's death Rudeus' fault? Like annyoingly so, like I felt his death could have easily been avoided? I mean they did the same combo of cutting the head and shooting it with fire afterwards with minor scatches untill the very last head. And ON THE VERY LAST HEAD rudy is completely out of it like "Oh yes! One head remaining" and has to be saved by Paul. And everyone is fine when this happens, and then the VERY LAST HEAD even after that close call Rudy still doesn't like pay attention to the ONLY HEAD that can do damage anymore, and so Paul has to save Rudes again costing his life.
Like I can't stop thinking about it. It's like so ass it made me start cursing on the screen like what are you doing..
And then after the fight he's all smiling "We did it!! :)))" Not even thinking about if Paul is okay who just clearly saved his ass twice with the second being lethal.
Don't get me wrong other than that I absolutely loved the episode and it definitely hit in the feels. Great episode.
if you noticed the scene correctly, it did not happen when Rudy was thinking that they have won, but when Roxy and Talhand were attacked by Hydra's tail. He shifted his attention to see if they needed any assistance, that's when the final head almost caught him off guard and Paul had to jump in to save him.
| @V1P3R0P Yeah this. Also Paul is the type of guy that would've loved to go out this way and he was happy that it worked. And Rudy didn't see Paul getting hit the second time because he got sent flying by him to avoid just that happening. |
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| They hit the nail on the head with both Mother’s and Father’s Day this season, first with Sylphie being pregnant on Mother’s Day, and now… RIP Paul, very good/bad timing lol. But yeah I absolutely had a feeling someone wasn’t making it out of this fight alive, even if they had a good strategy and were doing pretty good against the Hydra, a damn shame but at least the whole fight looked amazing and had some very cool moments, it was badass watching Rudeus and Roxy launch massive fireballs at the Hydra’s decapitated heads, and I like that Rudeus made use of a classic in our world to defeat the Hydra, one of those times the Isekai aspect is cool. But to make matters worse, the rescued Zenith was revealed at the end to have what I’m thinking is complete memory loss, like even as far as losing her speech, damn that is rough, I’m not sure if that’s what’s happening exactly or not but that ending just poured acid in the wound. But, we still got two episodes left, there’s absolutely more time for shit to go wrong and I’m not relaxing until it’s over lol. |
TheColonel76Jun 16, 1:52 PM
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@V1P3R0P Yeah it didn't happen when he thought they won, that's not what I'm talking about. Now that you mention the tail though I see that Talhand had to protect Roxy from the tail, while Elinalise is jumping over it to avoid it.
Just the way I see it though that shouldn't be enough for Rudy to lose sight/awareness of the last head. I mean there is only one of them now. Just thinking he should be able to dodge or par it with magic or something if he just paid a bit more attention and then everything ends well.
And that's all if he didn't have the eye to see few seconds forward in time. Where was that? I mean with that he for sure would have seen the attack coming, no?
Just the way I see it though that shouldn't be enough for Rudy to lose sight/awareness of the last head. I mean there is only one of them now. Just thinking he should be able to dodge or par it with magic or something if he just paid a bit more attention and then everything ends well.
And that's all if he didn't have the eye to see few seconds forward in time. Where was that? I mean with that he for sure would have seen the attack coming, no?
| @Juukaliz There is so much more that they could've done but ultimately didn't. MT oftentimes is a story about making mistakes and moving past them. Rudy isn't omnipotent. His eye was used in the episode and I could barely decipher what was going on there so I assumed that he didn't utilize it because the overlay got to distracting. His father didn't need healing or help so far while the others did so his attention going from paul to the others makes sense within the context of what came before. |
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Juukaliz said: @V1P3R0P Yeah it didn't happen when he thought they won, that's not what I'm talking about. Now that you mention the tail though I see that Talhand had to protect Roxy from the tail, while Elinalise is jumping over it to avoid it. Just the way I see it though that shouldn't be enough for Rudy to lose sight/awareness of the last head. I mean there is only one of them now. Just thinking he should be able to dodge or par it with magic or something if he just paid a bit more attention and then everything ends well. And that's all if he didn't have the eye to see few seconds forward in time. Where was that? I mean with that he for sure would have seen the attack coming, no? I've been telling this since season 1, Rudeus is not perfect. He makes mistakes like any normal human does. But people here seems to like blaming him harshly for everything that goes on in this series. Secondly, he can see only 1 second into the future as far as I'm aware of, since he is not able to get accurate predictions, the more further in time he looks. I'd say, instead of Paul jumping at Rudy, if he had aimed for the Hydra's final head, this disaster would've averted. But as a father, his first instinct was to save his son, and thats what he did. Moreover, Rudy wasnt even aware that Paul took a critical hit. He only realized that after everything ended. So, I really dont see how he's at fault over here, just because he thought "One final head and we win". Any other person would've been thinking the same when they are about to win. |
V1P3R0PJun 16, 1:59 PM
| That whole episode, especially the ending, had me shaking. So much traumatic stuff happened and I don’t know how Rudeus is going to recover. And that cliffhanger was insane. (10/10) |
| What a shit show Paul died Rudy lost his arm and Zenith the main reason all of this happened doesn’t remember shit I know she’s hot and everything but not worth it but anyway Paul can rest peacefully knowing that he saved his son and his wife… |
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