Mato no Seihei Slave Overshadowed by Gushing over Magical Girls

Yuri stuff sells. Series with male main characters just don’t sell as much anymore it seems (aside from stuff like One Piece and JJK I mean). Hate the way this is going but if many anime fans nowadays would have it their way they would eliminate males entirely

@Animillion I don't really like the direction it's going too, the only popular stuff is always stuff with yuri elements in it these days.

@IzayoiSk And yet there is only...1 yuri show this season? Give me a fucking break

@Fail_Man_X Yep only 1 and strangely it's the most popular thing in Japan this season ? Coincidence ?

As a mato sehei no slave manga reader, its only been 2 episodes so not much ecchi is included, but i can confirm that it will get hot and steamy later

Demon slave is already flopping hard in japan while mahosho is doing good

Also for those saying "that was just the beginning, it will get more steamy later" they skipped half of chapter 2 on last episode and that included a tame kyoko reward scene. If they don't include this scene by next episode, don't even expect the more spicier scenes to be adapted

Edens zero had better animation, didn't censor any lewd scenes and is as horny yet the anime adaptation didn't boost the sales lol

looks like they could be cutting a lot of the lewd scenes

As a mato sehei no slave manga reader, its only been 2 episodes so not much ecchi is included, but i can confirm that it will get hot and steamy later

@Dabbingpotato how's the ecchi compared to manga? for 3 eps so far. Are they purposely nerfing it for anime?

keep coping about it

@Gou_T

I don't know what some studios/directors are thinking when they adapt some anime

As if ppl aren't gonna be pissed if they change too much

But it's more likely imo that they just don't give a shit as they expect the manga to still sell

@Gou_T exactly this lol, I'm kinda concerned by the lack of people who aren't frustrated by the anime completely skipping such a nice reward scene from chapter 2. It's clear that the anime staff doesn't care if a good ecchi scene gets removed as long as they get to rush through the chapters in a hurry.

It's just not a good adaptation.

@Nucleus69 More and more people seem to be disappointed with the anime and even demon slave fans who were hyping the anime up are now saying that gushing over magical girls is clearing demon slave and is the better ecchi this season and you can tell what happens when you rush and censor an anime when you look at how both animes are doing in japan

you can shove all the bare boobs that you want, it doesn't matter if there is nothing else and it just comes out as coomerbait shit

y'all trippin, perhaps the animation is somewhat subpar to what was expected for Mato no Seihei Slave, but at least all the main characters being sexualized are adults; this Gushing over Magical Girls anime apparently has 14-year-olds showing nips and getting into noncon BDSM encounters, from what I've read. and y'all are celebrating that. crazy, this is why everyone makes fun of anime fans.

@cyber_coupe_benz Shocking. Another hypocritical moral crusader. You watched all of Isekai Meikyuu de Harem wo, so apparently 16 year old sex slaves are perfectly fine with you, but the contents of Gushing over magical girls is not. Can you please tell us where the line is that makes something wrong and something perfectly fine?

@Dunnas Fair point, fine, for fictional characters, an author can assign any age, so perhaps that's not a reliable standard. I shouldn't have pointed that out as my reason for griping about the show. So, in Slave Harem in Labyrinth of Another World, Roxanne has the proportions of a grown woman. There's another character in that anime, Vesta, who is apparently 15, but if you take a second to look at her appearance in the anime... what kind of 15 y/o typically looks like that? So the age is arbitrary when it comes to anime, because most characters are supposed to be drawn cutesy usually, and characters are drawn and aged younger, even though their proportions might actually be wildly different. It's what the character looks like, what they could be a depiction of in real life, that I would say matters most.

Another example that comes to mind of age being unreliable for anime characters, Jotaro Kujo from Jojo's, what kind of average 17 y/o looks like he's been in the Marines for years and is 6'5"? In another classic ecchi, High School DxD, Rias and Akeno at least look like they could be in college, proportions-wise and stature-wise, despite their assigned canonical ages. I believe Akeno is 17 at the start of the series, and Rias is 18 anyway to start out with. And that show actually has more substance to it than constant sexual scenarios, those are frequently done but there's a reasonable balance between actual substance and plot, and fanservice. I also watched Mushoku Tensei, where characters are accurately and realistically sized for their ages. Another controversial show apparently, but there's so much more to the show and it's more nuanced than just a few tense or questionable scenes here and there, and any scenes like that simply fit into the narrative and make sense for the growth and maturity of the main characters, they're not just merely fanservice.

So again, my point for all these examples is, my standard, where I feel the "line is that makes something wrong and something perfectly fine," is based on a character's appearance, if they actually look like they could be a depiction of a grown adult, a pre-teen, a college-age student, etc. That's what I usually go by. You have the "3000-year-old-dragon" meme argument that's typically used, but if the character looks like a depiction of a middle-schooler, that's definitely a no-go.

Now, looping back to Gushing over Magical Girls, no, I haven't watched the show, but just by perusing reviews and descriptions and all that, and looking up the ages and seeing that pretty much every single female main character is 14 and they actually look, act, and appear like their age, and that the main selling point of the show is all of them getting sexually harassed this way and that, BDSM everywhere... as well as the fact that this ecchi show is mostly just that throughout... I feel that, for that reason, Mato is the more defensible and reasonable show. Y'all can watch whatever you want, but I simply found it incredibly funny that this was even a thread in the first place.

@cyber_coupe_benz We'll have to agree to disagree there on the line being the appearance, but I certainly appreciate the detailed reply. I'm of the it is all fiction so it doesn't matter camp.

You should give gushing over magical girls a shot. If you are ok with the stuff in other shows you mentioned you shouldn't really have too many issues with it. I personally don't think the characters are designed to look particularly young, and if we were told they were in high school and not middle school you really wouldn't question it (they are likely just middle schoolers to follow usual marginal girl tropes). The girls being assaulted also generally don't hate it as much as you think they would, for reasons. It is a fun, ecchi show with likeable characters and great voice acting and clearly a lot of passion behind it from the creators, unlike Mato so far.

On an unimportant note, you do seem to have good taste as I am a huge fan of Mushoku Tensei.

@Gou_T

i don't know why that has to make something "coomer bait", why does there always have to be a negative connotation? boobs are great regardless of whether or not the show is good or adapted well

if were talking about them skipping shit, skipping shit is stupid whether or not a show has boobs

as far as the ecchi goes, the ecchi theyre adapting is great, the problem is what we haven't gotten

@EcchiGodMamster I personally think even the ecchi scenes we HAVE gotten so far in the anime don't really... look good or appealing. The compositing and blur definitely hurts it, it's like they are intentionally ruining some of the good ecchi panels from the manga.

I especially don't like the way the anime does the panty shots, most of the time the panties aren't even clearly visible either due to them adding this weird filter or blur over them, or due to the camera panning up very quickly and making the view hazy and blurry. The quality of the fanservice scenes/shots in the anime is just not good imo. It's like the staff working on the anime don't know how to make the fanservice actually appealing and titillating.

@Nucleus69

well i know in some cases they only pan really fast or make shit harder to see for the TV version, they slow the shots down or make them clearer in the BD

so far, i do like the ecchi we've gotten, its just more so the art/animation quality being lacking at times for me... yea its just the panties don't have a black outline, the lines are more so the color of the panties themselves, so i know what you mean

but yea, those who worked on Magical Girls went way harder and its CLEAR they care, especially with how the upped the raunchiness

then again, Slave's director isn't an ecchi director, so it shouldnt be too surprising this is happening :/