Attack on Titan
Ima two years of production and this is what they gave us.      |
kizumi91Nov 5, 2023 11:49 AM
| ^ Yeah, I agree with this one. |
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| Umm....you're literally picking up the scenes of people's emotions. These are literally the emotions people have with ugly faces on. Jean and Armin crying - ugly faces, fits Eren getting punched - ugly face (watch slow-mo videos of people getting punched, it looks ugly af) The manga is also like this. Yes WIT may have done it better but you are not the dictator of the anime industry so stop crying over it. Also to get WIT level of quality you need fuck ton of time (we would have finished the anime in 2030). |
Reply to HellindiuM
Umm....you're literally picking up the scenes of people's emotions. These are literally the emotions people have with ugly faces on.
Jean and Armin crying - ugly faces, fits
Eren getting punched - ugly face (watch slow-mo videos of people getting punched, it looks ugly af)
The manga is also like this.
Yes WIT may have done it better but you are not the dictator of the anime industry so stop crying over it. Also to get WIT level of quality you need fuck ton of time (we would have finished the anime in 2030).
Jean and Armin crying - ugly faces, fits
Eren getting punched - ugly face (watch slow-mo videos of people getting punched, it looks ugly af)
The manga is also like this.
Yes WIT may have done it better but you are not the dictator of the anime industry so stop crying over it. Also to get WIT level of quality you need fuck ton of time (we would have finished the anime in 2030).
HellindiuM said: I'm talking about the quality of drawing only, and please don't bring the Manga as a shield to defend it. You know, Isayama doesn't know to draw. Umm....you're literally picking up the scenes of people's emotions. These are literally the emotions people have with ugly faces on. Jean and Armin crying - ugly faces, fits Eren getting punched - ugly face (watch slow-mo videos of people getting punched, it looks ugly af) The manga is also like this. This is how distorted face should be properly animated.  HellindiuM said: Wit animted 59 eps and some OVAs, Specials in 6 years while MAPPA animated 35 eps in 4 years. So which studio spent more time on their production? And complaining about something is equal to crying, lmao don't be ridiculous man.Yes WIT may have done it better but you are not the dictator of the anime industry so stop crying over it. Also to get WIT level of quality you need fuck ton of time (we would have finished the anime in 2030). |
| Everyone else is debating on the ending and bro out here trying to pick out non existential animation problems, Lmao. But seriously this is the only person I've seen talk about the animation, There's always someone I guess. |
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| @SO_Nu Seems like I accidentally triggered an AOT stan. If you want your opinion to be more convincing, you better give it a good analysis than just saying cAusE u dOn'T UndeRstAnD It. Look at the first image, how am I about to tell people Jean is only 19 years old when dude looks like 60 year old gramp. There's various examples where characters' faces look better in similar situations. |
| Wit did AoT better, but Mappa is still top tier. |
| Bro thinks people should look gorgeous when they get punched, think their father has just died and have decided to kill their friend 😂 |
| Penguins are funny |
kizumi91 said: @SO_Nu Seems like I accidentally triggered an AOT stan. If you want your opinion to be more convincing, you better give it a good analysis than just saying cAusE u dOn'T UndeRstAnD It. Look at the first image, how am I about to tell people Jean is only 19 years old when dude looks like 60 year old gramp. There's various examples where characters' faces look better in similar situations. I mean you can clearly see what the character is feeling through the expression and the 19 year old thing it's just a difference in character designs and you should have not taken JoJo as an example lol , middle school jotaro looks like a full fledged adult what about that huh |
SO_Nu said: lmao Jean doesn't look like an old man in the first place but the awful drawings make him like that. Jotaro is instead an actual example of design matter.I mean you can clearly see what the character is feeling through the expression and the 19 year old thing it's just a difference in character designs and you should have not taken JoJo as an example lol , middle school jotaro looks like a full fledged adult what about that huh Bejitto said: Well, I'm including the first episode.Two years? Actually? 6 month but..okay |
Reply to kizumi91
HellindiuM said:
Umm....you're literally picking up the scenes of people's emotions. These are literally the emotions people have with ugly faces on.
Jean and Armin crying - ugly faces, fits
Eren getting punched - ugly face (watch slow-mo videos of people getting punched, it looks ugly af)
The manga is also like this.
I'm talking about the quality of drawing only, and please don't bring the Manga as a shield to defend it. You know, Isayama doesn't know to draw. Umm....you're literally picking up the scenes of people's emotions. These are literally the emotions people have with ugly faces on.
Jean and Armin crying - ugly faces, fits
Eren getting punched - ugly face (watch slow-mo videos of people getting punched, it looks ugly af)
The manga is also like this.
This is how distorted face should be properly animated.
HellindiuM said:
Yes WIT may have done it better but you are not the dictator of the anime industry so stop crying over it. Also to get WIT level of quality you need fuck ton of time (we would have finished the anime in 2030).
Wit animted 59 eps and some OVAs, Specials in 6 years while MAPPA animated 35 eps in 4 years. So which studio spent more time on their production? And complaining about something is equal to crying, lmao don't be ridiculous man.Yes WIT may have done it better but you are not the dictator of the anime industry so stop crying over it. Also to get WIT level of quality you need fuck ton of time (we would have finished the anime in 2030).
kizumi91 said: This is how distorted face should be properly animated. This image from JoJo looks horrible. Is that your standard? There's nothing being distorted from the face being punched except the lip. Even the right eye looks normal just covered with the cheek flesh. I think you need a better example. Also do understand that MAPPA as a lot of other shows - Vinland Saga S2, Jujutsi Kaisan S2, Chainsaw man, Jigokuraku. These are all action oriented and have a good production quality (with dips here and there). It doesn't look that bad. Every studio cannot be WiT, KyoAni or Ghibli. |
| Yeah I get it. I do miss the beautiful animation from seasons 1-3 |
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Reply to HellindiuM
kizumi91 said:
This is how distorted face should be properly animated.
This is how distorted face should be properly animated.
This image from JoJo looks horrible. Is that your standard? There's nothing being distorted from the face being punched except the lip. Even the right eye looks normal just covered with the cheek flesh. I think you need a better example.
Also do understand that MAPPA as a lot of other shows - Vinland Saga S2, Jujutsi Kaisan S2, Chainsaw man, Jigokuraku. These are all action oriented and have a good production quality (with dips here and there).
It doesn't look that bad. Every studio cannot be WiT, KyoAni or Ghibli.
| HellindiuM said: Since you askedThere's nothing being distorted from the face being punched except the lip. Even the right eye looks normal just covered with the cheek flesh. I think you need a better example   And I guess you should also provide your examples. |
kizumi91Nov 5, 2023 1:52 PM
Reply to SO_Nu
kizumi91 said:
SO_Nu said:
I mean you can clearly see what the character is feeling through the expression and the 19 year old thing it's just a difference in character designs and you should have not taken JoJo as an example lol , middle school jotaro looks like a full fledged adult what about that huh
lmao Jean doesn't look like an old man in the first place but the awful drawings make him like that. Jotaro is instead an actual example of design matter.I mean you can clearly see what the character is feeling through the expression and the 19 year old thing it's just a difference in character designs and you should have not taken JoJo as an example lol , middle school jotaro looks like a full fledged adult what about that huh
Bejitto said:
Two years? Actually? 6 month but..okay
Well, I'm including the first episode.Two years? Actually? 6 month but..okay
awful drawing really !! , my god bro I think you try drawing a ugly crying character yourself and then talk about others that would actually help you appreciated drawing like this more.
SO_Nu said: lmao what's your problem again, your idea is the same thing as a customer shouldn't be allowed to complain about the food's quality if he can't cook.awful drawing really !! , my god bro I think you try drawing a ugly crying character yourself and then talk about others that would actually help you appreciated drawing like this more. |
Reply to SteamedPlague
Bro thinks people should look gorgeous when they get punched, think their father has just died and have decided to kill their friend 😂
It is not the first time Eren is getting sucker-punched by Armin. But this time they made him look comically ugly on purpose, to humiliate his character even further, to portray him as a total loser and an idiot. It has nothing to do with realism. |
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| Because the manga is ugly. And when people cry or get punched in the face in real life they look ugly. |
| HACKs! 🤢🤮 |
Reply to SO_Nu
kizumi91 said:
SO_Nu said:
awful drawing really !! , my god bro I think you try drawing a ugly crying character yourself and then talk about others that would actually help you appreciated drawing like this more.
lmao what's your problem again, your idea is the same thing as a customer shouldn't be allowed to complain about the food's quality if he can't cook.awful drawing really !! , my god bro I think you try drawing a ugly crying character yourself and then talk about others that would actually help you appreciated drawing like this more.
I think I gave a bad example here, here other example you should go and see your crying face in the mirror this might help
| @SO_Nu wo wow, insulting people when you can't came up with any better argument, not a good move 👎 |
Reply to Bejitto
kizumi91 said:
SO_Nu said:
I mean you can clearly see what the character is feeling through the expression and the 19 year old thing it's just a difference in character designs and you should have not taken JoJo as an example lol , middle school jotaro looks like a full fledged adult what about that huh
lmao Jean doesn't look like an old man in the first place but the awful drawings make him like that. Jotaro is instead an actual example of design matter.I mean you can clearly see what the character is feeling through the expression and the 19 year old thing it's just a difference in character designs and you should have not taken JoJo as an example lol , middle school jotaro looks like a full fledged adult what about that huh
Bejitto said:
Two years? Actually? 6 month but..okay
Well, I'm including the first episode.Two years? Actually? 6 month but..okay
Why not include all the years since the series started airing ?
| @Bejitto they aren't from the same cour, not necessary to do that. |
| sounds like a you issue, but if in doubt then you can always prove it to us do it better go on. |
UiaiNov 6, 2023 7:41 PM
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Reply to kizumi91
@SO_Nu Seems like I accidentally triggered an AOT stan. If you want your opinion to be more convincing, you better give it a good analysis than just saying cAusE u dOn'T UndeRstAnD It. Look at the first image, how am I about to tell people Jean is only 19 years old when dude looks like 60 year old gramp.
There's various examples where characters' faces look better in similar situations.
There's various examples where characters' faces look better in similar situations.
| @kizumi91, if you criticize AoT and its ending, they gonna say you don't understand AoT. That's who they are. They act as if AoT is deep with this atrocious conclusion. |
| I wouldn't say ugly, but hmm... specific, haha. I guess that's because of a huge amount of close-ups during very emotional moments, resulting in various, expressionate face expressions. I liked them myself, by the way. But I can also see why they could've felt as awkward for some other people. Edit: oof, sorry for triple post. My Internet connection went funny and I sent three the same posts, lol. I've deleted the duplicates. |
| In the bottom right picture, Armin be like "I'm gonna bang Annie after this.' NO! I DON'T WANT THAT! MY BEST FRIEND GETTING LAID BEFORE ME??? |
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| Still looks better than you. |
Reply to neggawat
People like kizumi91 is an example of how a cringe pssy would complain about these things. Describing the works of many artists as "ugly" is not very nice of you. Who hurt you bro?
| @neggawat the art itself hurts my eyes, and how can it be fine when they complained about Boruto's crying face when I'm not seriously? |
Reply to Firewithlemon
Honestly guys give them a break. They did great work on all of season 4 and a good amount of this last episode looked amazing and you want to pick out a few frames and say it looked ugly? Just have a little respect for the people who worked hard on this anime and did a great job adapting it
| @Firewithlemon the scenes with Jean, Armin happen for almost a whole minute, not just a few frames. I appreciate the animators btw but I'm gonna blame MAPPA themselves for putting too many works on them. |
Abzy1239 said: Hard work and quality aren't two equal terms, you can not say your food is top-notch just because you cooked it for 10 hours.they were working their asses off and you are saying it looks ugly |
Reply to kizumi91
@Uiai Not just my issue, many people in this thread agreed with me. The disagreement only came from AOT's diehard.
| @kizumi91 idk I see only one post saying "why is this so ugly" and it's you, so don't try to shift the blame on others by saying "many" and admit you are the only one that dislikes it, nothing wrong with saying your opinion. |
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Reply to Uiai
@kizumi91 idk I see only one post saying "why is this so ugly" and it's you, so don't try to shift the blame on others by saying "many" and admit you are the only one that dislikes it, nothing wrong with saying your opinion.
| @Uiai because most people don't bother to take their time to capture any ugly frames like me, get it? There's only 1 negative review doesn't imply there's only 1 people dislike it. |
| Taking screenshots of deformed faces and calling it bad doesn't really prove anything. Saying that, I still agree that Wit would've done better. MAPPA relies too much on CGI and the quality isn't as good in general. |
Reply to Gator
Taking screenshots of deformed faces and calling it bad doesn't really prove anything.
Saying that, I still agree that Wit would've done better. MAPPA relies too much on CGI and the quality isn't as good in general.
Saying that, I still agree that Wit would've done better. MAPPA relies too much on CGI and the quality isn't as good in general.
| @Gator Gator said: Taking screenshots of deformed faces and calling it bad doesn't really prove anything. Saying that, I still agree that Wit would've done better. MAPPA relies too much on CGI and the quality isn't as good in general. I do agree with my beloved friend here, however, i am very satisfied with what i saw in comparison with the manga the animation looks nearly the same. I do not know if this is what they have been trying to achieve but they were on a point |
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