Attack on Titan
| lol do people forget it's just an anime ?? and not actually real where real war crimes and discrimination is happening ?? I root for Eren and apparently i support Hitler according to anti-Erens π€¦π»βοΈπ€¦π»βοΈ in the whole show i only give all fuck about Eren, perhaps 2-3 fucks about Jean(he's just a cinnamon roll) and Floch. rest can i don't care, Sasha (rip) my reasoning behind rooting for Eren : i love some good old cold served revenge, and honestly you reap what you sow... π π»βοΈ don't care about the innocent people being because where were everyone when the Paradis people were persecuted ? yeah that's all. who you rooting for and why is that ? (you don't have answer if you don't want tbh) |
| i am just rooting for good ending |
soniyay said: lol do people forget it's just an anime ?? and not actually real where real war crimes and discrimination is happening ?? I root for Eren and apparently i support Hitler according to anti-Erens π€¦π»βοΈπ€¦π»βοΈ in the whole show i only give all fuck about Eren, perhaps 2-3 fucks about Jean(he's just a cinnamon roll) and Floch. rest can i don't care, Sasha (rip) my reasoning behind rooting for Eren : i love some good old cold served revenge, and honestly you reap what you sow... π π»βοΈ don't care about the innocent people being because where were everyone when the Paradis people were persecuted ? yeah that's all. who you rooting for and why is that ? (you don't have answer if you don't want tbh) Believe me, I was with Eren for the longest time until the ending. As a former manga reader, the conclusion to his character left me dissatisfied and broken for a time. |
LordSozin said: Most of the characters get serious downgrades and become mediocre if not outright unlikable by the end. Armin used to be one of my top 10 all time characters and now I can't even look at him anymore. It's true what they say - live long enough and you become cringe. That's why Tupac remains a legend while Snoop Dogg is a lame consumer product. Erwin & Floch are top tier characters because they didn't have time to get Yammed.Believe me, I was with Eren for the longest time until the ending. As a former manga reader, the conclusion to his character left me dissatisfied and broken for a time. |
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Izuella said: I just want Eren to live and have a happy ending w Mikasa but that’ll never happen :(( Anyways, I’m on team Eren. Genocide is bad but he’s got good reasons for his actions. It’s pretty naive to think every country will just accept Eldians. They won’t and when Eren dies from his titan power, they’ll be defenseless Genocide is bad, but |
Zekkenshin said: LordSozin said: Most of the characters get serious downgrades and become mediocre if not outright unlikable by the end. Armin used to be one of my top 10 all time characters and now I can't even look at him anymore. It's true what they say - live long enough and you become cringe. That's why Tupac remains a legend while Snoop Dogg is a lame consumer product. Erwin & Floch are top tier characters because they didn't have time to get Yammed.Believe me, I was with Eren for the longest time until the ending. As a former manga reader, the conclusion to his character left me dissatisfied and broken for a time. All of them became unlikable in the end. Characters that I didn't like in the first place grew into despise and characters that I had turned around became unlikable. |
AkiraMiyazaki17 said: It’s not about whether it’s real or not. Eren’s ideals are genocidal, and so by rooting for him, you’re accepting his ideals. It’s obviously not as bad as encouraging a real life nazi as that has real world consequence, but it’s still pretty damn weird to say you support a character that thematically represents Nazi-esque war criminals. How many times does the series have to spoon-feed fans the sentence “Eren is wrong” for y’all to get that he’s the bad guy? Saying “you reap what you sow” just misses the point. Virtually every genocide in history has been justified by its perpetrators as an act of justice, and Eren is no different. I rather have an Eren saving his own 'race' than let the world exterminate them. I rather have an Eren who's morally, emotionally, and spiritually distraught for committing his actions than being a whining bitch that he's in the end. Sometimes, I rather have fiction where when it comes to these kinds of topics, the author has the balls to execute the impossible than being morally right or "justice" as you call it. @Ayanokamisama, a story can be interpreted in many ways. As long as it's logical, there's no problem. Don't give others the bs that they "didn't understand the story". |
LordSozinMay 4, 2023 4:44 PM
| @LordSozin Eren Yeager is not a God nor a leader who who wish to save Paradis He is jus a 19year old boy controlled/manipulated by that 'Thing'  Eren Yeager doesn't have God like powers to save eldia That 'Thing' has. Eren did not wish to commit genocide It is that 'Thing' /Ymir's desires forced Eren to do it. Eren Yeager did want to influence Grisha and other past AT shifters to obtain the FT it's That 'Thing'. That 'Thing' was responsible for everything That 'Thing' can be interpreted as Ymir's desire, love, Time, fate, cosmos, worm, halucigenia, determinism ....etc Eren Yeager is simply a mere slave/Tool to that Thing. Everything in AoT was pre-planned by that Thing and foreshadowed by Isayama. I recommend you to reread AoT. |
AyanokamisamaMay 4, 2023 10:54 PM
| None of them tbh. On one side we have a manchild not being able to see sense past his own lust for vengeance and on the other a nonsensically formed alliance. I do not hate how the events turned out in the end, what I hate is it's terrible execution by Isayama. |
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Ayanokamisama said: @LordSozin Eren Yeager is not a God nor a leader who who wish to save Paradis He is jus a 19year old boy controlled/manipulated by that 'Thing' Eren Yeager doesn't have God like powers to save eldia That 'Thing' has. Eren did not wish to commit genocide It is that 'Thing' /Ymir's desires forced Eren to do it. Eren Yeager did want to influence Grisha and other past AT shifters to obtain the FT it's That 'Thing'. That 'Thing' was responsible for everything That 'Thing' can be interpreted as Ymir's desire, love, Time, fate, cosmos, worm, halucigenia, determinism ....etc Eren Yeager is simply a mere slave/Tool to that Thing. Everything in AoT was pre-planned by that Thing and foreshadowed by Isayama. I recommend you to reread AoT. Throughout my re-read over the years--before the whole fiasco conclusion/ending--I got the idea that Eren's character was to defy fate and the meaning of being a slave to something. He constantly preaches about not wanting to be a slave to something and is obsessed with the idea of freedom. I find that part of his character to be unique and inspirational. Never once did I give in to the idea that Isayama wanted to make Eren being a slave to something. That's nonsense. So no, no matter how many re-reads I'll do, it'll never change my mind because that was not how I saw the series as a whole. Like the person above me said, Isayama had a terrible execution in the end. The thing that you're pointing to was just an excuse by Isayama. I find Eren being a slave, in the end, is a complete irony to what the entire series has been preaching about. It just makes the series more laughable at its comical conclusion. |
LordSozinMay 5, 2023 6:35 AM
Hermaj said: AkiraMiyazaki17 said: It’s not about whether it’s real or not. Eren’s ideals are genocidal, and so by rooting for him, you’re accepting his ideals. It’s obviously not as bad as encouraging a real life nazi as that has real world consequence, but it’s still pretty damn weird to say you support a character that thematically represents Nazi-esque war criminals. How many times does the series have to spoon-feed fans the sentence “Eren is wrong” for y’all to get that he’s the bad guy? Saying “you reap what you sow” just misses the point. Virtually every genocide in history has been justified by its perpetrators as an act of justice, and Eren is no different. Most of the AOT fans are not yet matured. That’s why they support Eren and his ideology. They completely miss the messages and themes of the story Isayama is trying to tell us. How does one supporting Eren's actions be related to one's immaturity? I swear one can have sound reasons for supporting Eren and his ideals yet there come people like you labeling them Nazis or, in your case, being immature. Why don't you people stop condescending others and start having a sense of what you're stating. |
Ayanokamisama said: ArMiNs BoOk was debunked, get with the times, YouTube philosopher I think you didn't understand the story, Eren is not takin revenge on the outside world for his mama's death Eren is simply a Mere slave to his own inherent nature. A SLAVE to the IDEA behind FREEDOM The story is about his human nature/humanity Vs his inner nature/ desire of achievin the idea of freedom which is Arming's Book. Think from a philosophical perspective. Many people who hate on AoT ending have 0 philosophical knowledge. |
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ecksdee58 said: To me, genocide is just not a good thing so the side who's not doing a genocide is who im rooting for. It's that simple I see this point being brought up a lot. At the same time, it's a very shallow way of looking at it. One can say they don't support Eren and his actions but then go on to cheer for Annie and Reiner when they also committed atrocities. Not only people within the walls that were annihilated but their supposed friends that were formed during their time as infiltrators. What I see then is the hypocrisy that you people don't seem to get. |
Hero_of_My_Story said: Ayanokamisama said: ArMiNs BoOk was debunked, get with the times, YouTube philosopher I think you didn't understand the story, Eren is not takin revenge on the outside world for his mama's death Eren is simply a Mere slave to his own inherent nature. A SLAVE to the IDEA behind FREEDOM The story is about his human nature/humanity Vs his inner nature/ desire of achievin the idea of freedom which is Arming's Book. Think from a philosophical perspective. Many people who hate on AoT ending have 0 philosophical knowledge. They really expect us to watch Youtube videos when we can just pick and choose what to watch and what not to watch. Instead of forming their own coherent reasons they resort to youtube, and if not, they call you immature and being nazis. It says a lot about them. |
ecksdee58 said: LordSozin said: I see this point being brought up a lot. At the same time, it's a very shallow way of looking at it. One can say they don't support Eren and his actions but then go on to cheer for Annie and Reiner when they also committed atrocities. Not only people within the walls that were annihilated but their supposed friends that were formed during their time as infiltrators. What I see then is the hypocrisy that you people don't seem to get. It's not about what they have done, it's about what they're doing. Both annie and reiner have greatly evolved in their way of thinking. It's like the people that still despise gabi for what she did. All she did was take revenge on her friends and she also greatly improved her way of thinking. The hypocrisy is thinking that destroying the world just to protect your people is the right thing to do. It's absolutely not If the story comes to the point where the entire World, including the eldians outside the island, wants to exterminate Paradis Island and its inhabitants to protect themselves, then Eren gets every right to protect his people. I don't see anything wrong with that. What's so hypocritical about that? Plus, Isayama cornered himself to do so. He wrote it to this point. And I see Eren's actions as something beyond just protecting his people. It's also to show Eren's character and how far he has come. His emotional maturity, his notion of morality, and his willingness to seek the end. To me, that's the most important thing. The choice you make, you live by it. Those notions connect back to the beginning of the series: such as the Female Titan arc and the Royal Government arc. In each of these narrative storylines, there was this constant motif and I like to see it to the end. |
LordSozinMay 7, 2023 6:14 PM
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