| So, what's the difference between "doujin" and "doujinshi"? Is doujinshi a specific type of doujin? Or is a doujinshi the person who writes/draws doujin? Or what? |
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| Edit: Doujin basically means "amateur self-published works". There are a couple different sub catagories, most prominent is Doujinshi, which is published as manga. Oh, and they're also illegal. Even more so to you people who address that on a morality issue because a lot of doujins are bought and sold. |
TheWestExitMar 19, 2008 7:50 AM
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| im pretty sure doujin is self-published works of an indiviual/group who can publish work which isnt specifically manga, whereas doujinshi is a self-published work of a group/individual which is manga/anime related, it can be based of an anime or not, such things like fanfiction, 4komas etc, but there's not really much of a difference, they're pretty much the same don't quote me on this though, lol |
TheWestExit said: They're the same thing, just an abbreviation dude. Oh, and they're also illegal. Even more so to you people who address that on a morality issue because a lot of doujins are bought and sold. I'm pretty sure they aren't illegal - Japanese copyright laws are pretty different from those in America. And I rather doubt that they'd be so public and upfront about producing and selling the stuff if it was against the law. |
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| The most puzzling feature about the doujinshi market, for those trained in law, at least, is that it is allowed to exist at all. Under Japanese copyright law, which in this respect (on paper) mirrors American copyright law, the doujinshi market is an illegal one. Doujinshi are plainly "derivative works." There is no general practice by doujinshi artists of securing the permission of the manga creators. Instead, the practice is simply to take and modify the creations of others, as Walt Disney did with Steamboat Bill Jr. Under both Japanese and American law, that "taking" without the permission of the original copyright owner is illegal. It is an infringement of the original copyright to make a copy or a derivative work without the original copyright owner's permission. |
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| Doujinshi are technically illegal there, but companies tend to turn a blind eye to the practice because doujinshi serve to grow a fandom for the original series, and doujinshi circles are a great place for publishers to harvest new talent (such as CLAMP). I have been to comiket in Tokyo, and the 500,000 people that attend are hard to miss, lol :) It is interesting. At one table, you'd have someone selling Evangelion doujinshi, while not too far away is an official Gainax booth where they are promoting whatever new series they have. You can also find well-known manga professionals selling doujinshi they have made of characters belonging to other series (like the author of HanaKimi doing Naruto and Inuyasha doujinshi, or the author of DN Angel doing Escaflowne and Eva doujinshi). Then there will be professional artists selling doujinshi of their own published works, like in the case of Gravitation and the Gravitation remixes, or some of the stuff from Taishi Zaou. Occasionally, a company will go after a doujinshi circle for copyright infringement, such as in the case of Nintendo and some pokemon doujinshi back in 1999, but for the most part, doujinshi is seen as a positive force and an important expression of fandom, in spite of the copyright laws. |
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| if Doujinshi is illegal...Does that mean just the ones based of original stories? What about ones made originally by the person? are they illegal also? |
| According to Wikipedia, "Doujinshi" is an art, anime, manga, or game created by armatures for other people who like the same thing. "Doujin" is just a group of people who share a common interest. |
| dōjinshi = doujinshi = 同人誌 As Wikipedia explains, "The term dōjinshi is derived from dōjin (同人, literally "same person", used to refer to a person or persons with whom one shares a common goal or interest) and shi (誌, a suffix generally meaning "periodical publication")." See here for details: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D%C5%8Djinshi My impression is that 99.9% of the time when people say "doujin" (同人) they simply mean it as an abbreviation for "doujinshi" (同人誌). So, for example, in "Comic Party" and "Comic Party Revolution", there was the green-haired character Eimi Ohba (大庭 詠美 ) who was the "Doujin Queen of Comic Party". But everywhere else in the series, it was consistently said that their amateur fanfiction magazines were called "doujinshi". |
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