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Sep 17, 2022 3:41 PM
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As much as I loved the new episode, I find it hard to believe that all the civilians decided to simultanously change their minds and thought that Lycoris and all the shootings along with the fight at the Tower was just a big prank just because some short tv announcement told them so.

I was hyped to see how the story would unfold after Lycoris got shown to the public, how their shootout was broadcasted live everywhere and how civilians started to pick up and fire stashed Lycoris pistols, but bruh, that felt so anticlimatic to me.

Anyone feels kinda similar about this or is it just me?
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Groupthink is a phenomenon that occurs when the desire for group consensus overrides people's common sense desire to present alternatives, critique a position, or express an unpopular opinion

its a real phenomenon
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Friendly reminder, that in 1938 people really thought US was invaded by aliens because audio drama was airing on radio and it caused wide panic.

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Groupthink is a phenomenon that occurs when the desire for group consensus overrides people's common sense desire to present alternatives, critique a position, or express an unpopular opinion

its a real phenomenon

That's true but I still find the whole ordeal to be illogical and anticlimatic considering how widespread the transmission was, not to mention that people getting shot on the street with many witnesses obviously wouldn't be THAT easy to pass off as a "prank"
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I had the same feeling, I'm a little bit disappointed too...
Sep 17, 2022 3:53 PM
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Piromysl said:
Friendly reminder, that in 1938 people really thought US was invaded by aliens because audio drama was airing on radio and it caused wide panic.

Difference is, LycoReco takes place in 21st century where fuckton of people can mass record and tweet stuff in 30 seconds, while in those times Radio was still a fairly new tech for majority of the population, not to mention that the fastest communication method of that time was either a cable phone or a telegraph, which fun fact - wouldn't transmit pictures or videos and so couldn't really proof that this was 100% real right away
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I'm a bit mixed on this. Yeah, everyone thinking it was a show seems a cheap way to get out of it, and the fact they'd have to cover up people finding guns and shooting these girls. Still, if the anime does get a season 2, they'll need some way to continue their operations.

Just cause most of the public thinks it was a show doesn't mean everyone will think that way.
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deg said:
Groupthink is a phenomenon that occurs when the desire for group consensus overrides people's common sense desire to present alternatives, critique a position, or express an unpopular opinion

its a real phenomenon

It might be a real phenomenon, but two people, possibly more, traded fire and kill each other.

This was just bad writing.
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Elevatorisbest said:
Piromysl said:
Friendly reminder, that in 1938 people really thought US was invaded by aliens because audio drama was airing on radio and it caused wide panic.

Difference is, LycoReco takes place in 21st century where fuckton of people can mass record and tweet stuff in 30 seconds, while in those times Radio was still a fairly new tech for majority of the population, not to mention that the fastest communication method of that time was either a cable phone or a telegraph, which fun fact - wouldn't transmit pictures or videos and so couldn't really proof that this was 100% real right away

But in 21st century people are way dumber than ever in recorded history.

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RogerCop said:
deg said:
Groupthink is a phenomenon that occurs when the desire for group consensus overrides people's common sense desire to present alternatives, critique a position, or express an unpopular opinion

its a real phenomenon

It might be a real phenomenon, but two people, possibly more, traded fire and kill each other.

This was just bad writing.


they might be thinking its just acting performances too
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Piromysl said:
Elevatorisbest said:

Difference is, LycoReco takes place in 21st century where fuckton of people can mass record and tweet stuff in 30 seconds, while in those times Radio was still a fairly new tech for majority of the population, not to mention that the fastest communication method of that time was either a cable phone or a telegraph, which fun fact - wouldn't transmit pictures or videos and so couldn't really proof that this was 100% real right away

But in 21st century people are way dumber than ever in recorded history.

But it doesn't mean that the entire thing wouldn't be mass posted on the internet and eventually verified to be real by anyone who isn't an idiot
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Piromysl said:
Elevatorisbest said:

Difference is, LycoReco takes place in 21st century where fuckton of people can mass record and tweet stuff in 30 seconds, while in those times Radio was still a fairly new tech for majority of the population, not to mention that the fastest communication method of that time was either a cable phone or a telegraph, which fun fact - wouldn't transmit pictures or videos and so couldn't really proof that this was 100% real right away

But in 21st century people are way dumber than ever in recorded history.

Mate, just because 10% of the population believes the earth is flat, doesn't mean the other 90% are dumb.
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To be fair there is still a whole episode left, and potentially more seasons; also they didn’t really show the places where the girl and the guy got shot. I would really right it off to soon, even though it looks like the people just fell for the “staged act”.
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deg said:
RogerCop said:

It might be a real phenomenon, but two people, possibly more, traded fire and kill each other.

This was just bad writing.


they might be thinking its just acting performances too

They were civilains with families.

This is bad writing, no excuses.
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I just learned to turn my brain off when i watch these episodes
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RogerCop said:
deg said:


they might be thinking its just acting performances too

They were civilains with families.

This is bad writing, no excuses.


youre free to think that way but the secret police state can cover them all up too later on
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To be fair there is still a whole episode left, and potentially more seasons; also they didn’t really show the places where the girl and the guy got shot. I would really right it off to soon, even though it looks like the people just fell for the “staged act”.

They even hinted that there were a lot more people shooting each other.
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Elevatorisbest said:
Piromysl said:

But in 21st century people are way dumber than ever in recorded history.

But it doesn't mean that the entire thing wouldn't be mass posted on the internet and eventually verified to be real by anyone who isn't an idiot

No.
People having access to free information does not make them smarter, since most of the information available there is completely worthless. People being spoon feed bullshit will make them dumb.
You think how this soulless husk sitting in the White House ended up there?

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RogerCop said:
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they might be thinking its just acting performances too

They were civilains with families.

This is bad writing, no excuses.

Yea, I still think that this is an amazing show but that was clearly mediocre writing right here

If you are gonna make a sudden and major plot point that the main/side charactere would fix within 1 or 2 eps, at least make it look not anticlimatic and plausible when its fixed, even for the world of the anime
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deg said:
RogerCop said:

They were civilains with families.

This is bad writing, no excuses.


youre free to think that way but the secret police state can cover them all up too later on

They most likely can't, at least without the help of the writers, too many people were killed and each of them had families, friends...

It was simply badly done, they might address it later, but the way they are going it doesn't seem like it.
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RogerCop said:
Piromysl said:

But in 21st century people are way dumber than ever in recorded history.

Mate, just because 10% of the population believes the earth is flat, doesn't mean the other 90% are dumb.

Dunno how this is supposed to be an argument, because it is a well known fact that with just a little bit of manipulations people will belive whatever authorities want them to believe.

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so much fake news today in the internet world so the saying lies spreads faster than facts holds true still

RogerCop said:
deg said:


youre free to think that way but the secret police state can cover them all up too later on

They most likely can't, at least without the help of the writers, too many people were killed and each of them had families, friends...

It was simply badly done, they might address it later, but the way they are going it doesn't seem like it.


no only few gun incidents happen as far as i remember like not even 100+ cases
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Piromysl said:
RogerCop said:

Mate, just because 10% of the population believes the earth is flat, doesn't mean the other 90% are dumb.

Dunno how this is supposed to be an argument, because it is a well known fact that with just a little bit of manipulations people will belive whatever authorities want them to believe.

I'm telling you that the population won't believe what the television says if their friend just got shoot by a school girl.
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deg said:
so much fake news today in the internet world so the saying lies spreads faster than facts holds true still

RogerCop said:

They most likely can't, at least without the help of the writers, too many people were killed and each of them had families, friends...

It was simply badly done, they might address it later, but the way they are going it doesn't seem like it.


no only few gun incidents happen as far as i remember like not even 100+ cases

10 cases are more than enough,it's impossible to cover that without the writers help.
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RogerCop said:
deg said:
so much fake news today in the internet world so the saying lies spreads faster than facts holds true still



no only few gun incidents happen as far as i remember like not even 100+ cases

10 cases are more than enough,it's impossible to cover that without the writers help.


obviously the writers will do just that
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RogerCop said:
Piromysl said:

Dunno how this is supposed to be an argument, because it is a well known fact that with just a little bit of manipulations people will belive whatever authorities want them to believe.

I'm telling you that the population won't believe what the television says if their friend just got shoot by a school girl.

Authorities WILL cover up one or two people going missing.

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deg said:
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10 cases are more than enough,it's impossible to cover that without the writers help.


obviously the writers will do just that

Making it bad writing.
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Groupthink is a phenomenon that occurs when the desire for group consensus overrides people's common sense desire to present alternatives, critique a position, or express an unpopular opinion

its a real phenomenon


Ok so bear in mind that the show told us 100 people found the guns.
That's 100 people who know the truth. If anything happens to them, their families will know, their friends will know. The witnesses in the street will see them fire it against police officers or Lycorises + their families and their friends will know of these incidents (we see 2 examples on screen).
And if we take into account all the tower workers we see dead in episode 10, are they never gonna be missed?
And then you remember that in episode 9 Chisato opened fire on civilians on a high way (one of the worst moments for Chisato as a character), but I guess none of these people remember anything?
And then you remember that in episode 7, an entire police station, with all the policemen and workers there got massacered, so their families and anyone in range of the gunfire sound (and that's a large area) would've known something was up.
And then remember that this has been happening since Takina started a gunfight in a residential nighborhood in episode fucking 1, (if we forget about the stupid montage the show starts on). and has happened almost every episode except 3.

Please don't try to defend the logic of how any of these orginizations remain secret and just call it what it is: A fuck-up on the writers part. Or maybe they know and they just don't give a shit. idk.
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Piromysl said:
RogerCop said:

I'm telling you that the population won't believe what the television says if their friend just got shoot by a school girl.

Authorities WILL cover up one or two people going missing.

No, they will have to take out about 35 people for each person that was killed.
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To be fair there is still a whole episode left, and potentially more seasons; also they didn’t really show the places where the girl and the guy got shot. I would really right it off to soon, even though it looks like the people just fell for the “staged act”.

They even hinted that there were a lot more people shooting each other.

I still wouldn’t write it off, anything can happen. There could be more violence, or there could be an uprising for people who believe about the organization.
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DarkHomieC said:
RogerCop said:

They even hinted that there were a lot more people shooting each other.

I still wouldn’t write it off, anything can happen. There could be more violence, or there could be an uprising for people who believe about the organization.

It most likely won't be in this season, after all the end seems to be more about Chisato death, let's be real.
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I wouldn't say the civilians were dumb per se, but are in paranoia from Majima's announcement broadcast. Majima's master plan was to expose the violent nature of the lycoris to the world. Thus, he sent his men to the radio tower only to get attacked by the Lycoris. And then showed footage of the blood bath aftermath of it which triggers fear and anxiety. But little did the civilians know that this was all staged and that Majima led his men their to die.
Him scattering the thousand guns all over Tokyo was to get a reaction out of the civilians. Majima wanted to see how they would respond if they spotted a Lycoris in uniform out in the public.
Giving guns to the people inflict a fight or flight response to a threat.

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Most people act following the Herd Behavior.

Few people think and act different.

Then, Lycoris Recoil shows... the real world.

"Soylent Green is people!"
-- Detective Thorn, from the movie "Soylent Green".
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I wouldn't say the civilians were dumb per se, but are in paranoia from Majima's announcement broadcast. Majima's master plan was to expose the violent nature of the lycoris to the world. Thus, he sent his men to the radio tower only to get attacked by the Lycoris. And then showed footage of the blood bath aftermath of it which triggers fear and anxiety. But little did the civilians know that this was all planned out and that Majima led his men their to die.
Him scattering the thousand guns all over Tokyo was to get a reaction out of the civilians. Majima wanted to see how they would respond if they spotted a Lycoris in uniform out in the public.

The op was referring to the civilains believing the news that everything was staged.
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Secret333 said:
deg said:
Groupthink is a phenomenon that occurs when the desire for group consensus overrides people's common sense desire to present alternatives, critique a position, or express an unpopular opinion

its a real phenomenon


Ok so bear in mind that the show told us 100 people found the guns.
That's 100 people who know the truth. If anything happens to them, their families will know, their friends will know. The witnesses in the street will see them fire it against police officers or Lycorises + their families and their friends will know of these incidents (we see 2 examples on screen).
And if we take into account all the tower workers we see dead in episode 10, are they never gonna be missed?
And then you remember that in episode 9 Chisato opened fire on civilians on a high way (one of the worst moments for Chisato as a character), but I guess none of these people remember anything?
And then you remember that in episode 7, an entire police station, with all the policemen and workers there got massacered, so their families and anyone in range of the gunfire sound (and that's a large area) would've known something was up.
And then remember that this has been happening since Takina started a gunfight in a residential nighborhood in episode fucking 1, (if we forget about the stupid montage the show starts on). and has happened almost every episode except 3.

Please don't try to defend the logic of how any of these orginizations remain secret and just call it what it is: A fuck-up on the writers part. Or maybe they know and they just don't give a shit. idk.


again the secret police state can cover it all up even going as far as making 1000+ people gone missing without a trace

and you are underestimating the power of Fake News and Big Lie
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Most people act following the Herd Behavior.

Few people think and act different.

Then, Lycoris Recoil shows... the real world.

"Soylent Green is people!"
-- Detective Thorn, from the movie "Soylent Green".

I would normally agreed with you, but at least 10 people died and everyone loves conspiracies nowadays.

It's literally impossible to cover up without the writers help.
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RogerCop said:
DarkHomieC said:

I still wouldn’t write it off, anything can happen. There could be more violence, or there could be an uprising for people who believe about the organization.

It most likely won't be in this season, after all the end seems to be more about Chisato death, let's be real.

It’s an anime original, so it could be like that or it could be she survives, but now there’s a bigger problem. Tbh I feel like Chisato isn’t going to die, but someone else will.
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Ok so bear in mind that the show told us 100 people found the guns.
That's 100 people who know the truth. If anything happens to them, their families will know, their friends will know. The witnesses in the street will see them fire it against police officers or Lycorises + their families and their friends will know of these incidents (we see 2 examples on screen).
And if we take into account all the tower workers we see dead in episode 10, are they never gonna be missed?
And then you remember that in episode 9 Chisato opened fire on civilians on a high way (one of the worst moments for Chisato as a character), but I guess none of these people remember anything?
And then you remember that in episode 7, an entire police station, with all the policemen and workers there got massacered, so their families and anyone in range of the gunfire sound (and that's a large area) would've known something was up.
And then remember that this has been happening since Takina started a gunfight in a residential nighborhood in episode fucking 1, (if we forget about the stupid montage the show starts on). and has happened almost every episode except 3.

Please don't try to defend the logic of how any of these orginizations remain secret and just call it what it is: A fuck-up on the writers part. Or maybe they know and they just don't give a shit. idk.


again the secret police state can cover it all up even going as far as making 1000+ people gone missing without a trace

and you are underestimating the power of Fake News and Big Lie

We are talking about random people that have friends around the globe, on other countries, that have families of their own.
It's an impossible cover up.
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asian culture like the japanese are collectivist too so yes they follow herd mentality more
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again the secret police state can cover it all up even going as far as making 1000+ people gone missing without a trace

and you are underestimating the power of Fake News and Big Lie

We are talking about random people that have friends around the globe, on other countries, that have families of their own.
It's an impossible cover up.


they simply will be silenced like no media will cover their stories as instructed by the police state that is totalitarian
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DarkHomieC said:
RogerCop said:

It most likely won't be in this season, after all the end seems to be more about Chisato death, let's be real.

It’s an anime original, so it could be like that or it could be she survives, but now there’s a bigger problem. Tbh I feel like Chisato isn’t going to die, but someone else will.

Chisato character arc is over, there's nothing else for her to do.

That's why I think she will die.
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There are literal flat earthers among us I’m willing to let stupidity slide in a show about high school girls gunning down terrorists in broad daylight
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deg said:
asian culture like the japanese are collectivist too so yes they follow herd mentality more
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We are talking about random people that have friends around the globe, on other countries, that have families of their own.
It's an impossible cover up.


they simply will be silenced like no media will cover their stories as instructed by the police state that is totalitarian

They only can control their control, this is something much bigger in scale, the friends of the victims have families and these members have friends, besides there are mutiple ways to inform people without the government knowing. Ever heard of songs and comics?
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There are literal flat earthers among us I’m willing to let stupidity slide in a show about high school girls gunning down terrorists in broad daylight

90% of the population doesn't believe the earth is flat.
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Ok so bear in mind that the show told us 100 people found the guns.
That's 100 people who know the truth. If anything happens to them, their families will know, their friends will know. The witnesses in the street will see them fire it against police officers or Lycorises + their families and their friends will know of these incidents (we see 2 examples on screen).
And if we take into account all the tower workers we see dead in episode 10, are they never gonna be missed?
And then you remember that in episode 9 Chisato opened fire on civilians on a high way (one of the worst moments for Chisato as a character), but I guess none of these people remember anything?
And then you remember that in episode 7, an entire police station, with all the policemen and workers there got massacered, so their families and anyone in range of the gunfire sound (and that's a large area) would've known something was up.
And then remember that this has been happening since Takina started a gunfight in a residential nighborhood in episode fucking 1, (if we forget about the stupid montage the show starts on). and has happened almost every episode except 3.

Please don't try to defend the logic of how any of these orginizations remain secret and just call it what it is: A fuck-up on the writers part. Or maybe they know and they just don't give a shit. idk.


again the secret police state can cover it all up even going as far as making 1000+ people gone missing without a trace

and you are underestimating the power of Fake News and Big Lie

The numbers above easily reach more than 100k, what’s even funnier is you implied that the DA was the biggest terrorist organization in the world.

“Asian culture are more collectivist so they follow herd mentality more” -deg

Now this is what I call a bruh moment.
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RogerCop said:
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There are literal flat earthers among us I’m willing to let stupidity slide in a show about high school girls gunning down terrorists in broad daylight

90% of the population doesn't believe the earth is flat.

That’s 10% too many
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RogerCop said:
I would normally agreed with you, but at least 10 people died and everyone loves conspiracies nowadays.

It's literally impossible to cover up without the writers help.


Believe me, it still happens nowadays...
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Secret333 said:
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again the secret police state can cover it all up even going as far as making 1000+ people gone missing without a trace

and you are underestimating the power of Fake News and Big Lie

The numbers above easily reach more than 100k, what’s even funnier is you implied that the DA was the biggest terrorist organization in the world.

“Asian culture are more collectivist so they follow herd mentality more” -deg

Now this is what I call a bruh moment.

Is this an alt account?
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90% of the population doesn't believe the earth is flat.

That’s 10% too many

Agreed, but not enough to cover up this kind of incident.
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Have you been living under a rock since 2016? Humans will listen to anything the media/internet says
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You don’t really understand how propaganda works, do you? You realize if tomorrow, every newspaper and television and radio station and website affiliate proclaimed that aliens were invading earth, the overwhelming majority would eat it up? That’s what is so powerful about controlling the media. You control information, and if nobody has anything else to compare it to, your information becomes “truth”. That is what Majima is even fighting against: DA’s iron grip on the media and controlling the narrative to cover up their exploits.
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