Douluo Dalu 2nd Season Episode 108 Discussion

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Dec 11, 2020 8:27 PM

Xealias

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I am speechless. This ep was INSANE.

I haven't read the novel so I'm hoping that Xiao Wu will still come back. Somehow. *Fingers crossed*

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Dec 12, 2020 12:01 AM

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I KNEW SOMETHING WAS UP WHEN THE EPISODE TITLE HAD A RED RING AROUND IT.

PLEASE TELL ME THIS ISN'T THE LAST EPISODE. NOT LIKE THIS.

TS BROKE 60 LEVELS AND OBTAINED A RED RING AT TOO BIG OF A COST.

I CANT

Dec 12, 2020 12:57 AM

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it was freakin amazing didn't read the novel either but I HOPE they don't let it end like this.

cus come on it can't just be like father like son PLEEEEASE :D

find a way to bring her back idc how xD

Dec 12, 2020 1:54 AM

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Damn, I wish they do a season 3. I've read the Wiki, so I know what's going to happen, but still. Wow. That was a dramatic execution.

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Dec 12, 2020 2:06 AM

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can someone tell me if they will make another season? it s just too sad if they would let it like that. srsly i loved watching this week after week for over a year..

Dec 12, 2020 5:27 AM

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@chhgn @TankHeroPro @katsucats @De4su
There is actually a preview of ep 135 and on Tencent's page it says "Updated to Ep 134" (instead of Completed 134 Eps) and "Update Time: Saturday 10:00 1 New Ep" so it's likely we'll still get weekly updates.

The "End" at the end of ep 134 sure gave us a scare though xD

Btw there's a new art poster on the Tencent page

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Dec 12, 2020 5:51 AM

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I am not crying I just...f*ck it I am crying so much now

Dec 12, 2020 5:51 AM

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Ooooh nice even in the form of a rabbit still better than her being dead :D

I actually think we saw her as the rabbit laying on the ground in the last scene

And I cant wait for the new ep :D

Dec 12, 2020 6:49 AM

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Really sad...So....Sad....My heart is pounding......Why did they ended up so quickly.....?...I hope if there a new season......I think the company tired to continue this anime.....But if they making a another one...Worth it....

Dec 12, 2020 6:51 AM

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TankHeroPro said:
Ooooh nice even in the form of a rabbit still better than her being dead :D

I actually think we saw her as the rabbit laying on the ground in the last scene

And I cant wait for the new ep :D

I don't think so.... :(

Dec 12, 2020 9:07 AM

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Well, this episode was just... big WTF !

I guess this arc ends now, so idiotic MAL will add a new entry for the following episodes (if any).

Dec 12, 2020 9:50 AM

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Noooooo !!! They can't do thaaaaat !!!! I forbid it !!!! I cry maan iiii cryyyyyyyyy.....

Dec 12, 2020 9:54 AM

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Xealias said:
@chhgn @TankHeroPro @katsucats @De4su
There is actually and on Tencent's page it says "Updated to Ep 134" (instead of Completed 134 Eps) and "Update Time: Saturday 10:00 1 New Ep" so it's likely we'll still get weekly updates.

The "End" at the end of ep 134 sure gave us a scare though xD

tyvm for your link that would be so cool if someone made a sub of this trailer ^^ and i copy direct this poster :p

Dec 12, 2020 9:59 AM

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YukiYuan said:

Xealias said:
@ chhgn @ TankHeroPro @ katsucats @ De4su
There is actually and on Tencent's page it says "Updated to Ep 134" (instead of Completed 134 Eps) and "Update Time: Saturday 10:00 1 New Ep" so it's likely we'll still get weekly updates.

The "End" at the end of ep 134 sure gave us a scare though xD

tyvm for your link that would be so cool if someone made a sub of this trailer ^^ and i copy direct this poster :p

In the trailer Tang San was basically saying that he'll get revenge on Wu Hun Dian.

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Dec 12, 2020 10:21 AM

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@Xealias Yes i imagine that with the tone of his voice ^^

Dec 12, 2020 11:55 AM

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The novel is MASSIVE. I don't think is an exaggeration to say that this is the point the story truly begins. All until now is more or less just a really in depth prologue. This isn't the end of the show, as we have some art on Tencent's page of upcoming episodes.

Dec 12, 2020 2:56 PM

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Just rewatched this ep again and I'm still an emotional wreck ha ha.
When Tang San woke up and realized what happened... It's so heart breaking.

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Dec 12, 2020 3:29 PM

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I don't know what's the rationale behind MAL's division of seasons, but I think it's fair to say that if there's a new episode after this, it would be considered a new season. I mean it does say "end" and "thank you for growing up with us"

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Dec 12, 2020 10:13 PM

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This series has covered the first 23 volumes of the novel. There are 45 volumes in the first soul land series, so we are looking to be just about half way through.

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Dec 13, 2020 12:16 AM

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katsucats said:
I don't know what's the rationale behind MAL's division of seasons, but I think it's fair to say that if there's a new episode after this, it would be considered a new season. I mean it does say "end" and "thank you for growing up with us"

in other places i've seen it notated as season 1 and it's been season 2 (since ep 27 i believe) so the way MAL organizes it really confuses me

Dec 13, 2020 5:20 AM

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Futhark said:
This series has covered the first 23 volumes of the novel. There are 45 volumes in the first soul land series, so we are looking to be just about half way through.

Do you know if the second series is a continue of the first one or is it a totally different story?

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Dec 13, 2020 8:08 AM

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Xealias said:

Futhark said:
This series has covered the first 23 volumes of the novel. There are 45 volumes in the first soul land series, so we are looking to be just about half way through.

Do you know if the second series is a continue of the first one or is it a totally different story?

The second series is not a direct continuation. It takes place 10,000 years later. I dont know how long is between the 2nd and 3rd, but its 10,000 years again between the 3rd and fourth.

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Dec 13, 2020 8:42 PM

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This was just... wow. Question, when she 'sacrificed' her soul, was that exactly what her mom did with his dad? Not a spoiler or anything (as it was in this episode). Just asking as his mom seems to have some type of contact still with him & his dad. Just curious if bunny girl would have the possibility to 'exist' in some form or another in the future.

There was definitely enough foreshadowing earlier on in the series to show that this could happen in one form or another at some point. It was definitely a "holy ****"I moment though as I didn't expect it to happen that way.

Anyone know the time off between previous seasons? I saw some comment somewhere that said at some point there was a year between seasons....

Dec 16, 2020 8:21 PM

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severen1999 said:
This was just... wow. Question, when she 'sacrificed' her soul, was that exactly what her mom did with his dad? Not a spoiler or anything (as it was in this episode). Just asking as his mom seems to have some type of contact still with him & his dad. Just curious if bunny girl would have the possibility to 'exist' in some form or another in the future.

There was definitely enough foreshadowing earlier on in the series to show that this could happen in one form or another at some point. It was definitely a "holy ****"I moment though as I didn't expect it to happen that way.

Anyone know the time off between previous seasons? I saw some comment somewhere that said at some point there was a year between seasons....

I believe Tencent said it won't stop updating episodes till finishing...(When I say finishing I mean the Douluo Dalu 1 from the whole Douluo Dalu series.) But yes there was a time gap like close to 1 year long between ep27 and ep28 back to 2018 I guess?

Xiao Wu has to sacrifice her soul since Tang San is only 60lvl at this moment, he can't bear the power of a CM soul ring for now. Tang San survive this only if Xiao Wu sacrifice her soul as well. Tang San's mom didn't do this cuz Tang Hao was 90lvl back to that time and He's strong enough to take it.

BTW It's been 10 yrs since I read this chapter named "Same Destiny, Tang San's 100,000 yrs soul ring"... but I still felt heartbroken for them while I watch anime.

I don't wanna give a spoiler but you will see that Xiao Wu never leaves Tang San till the end. If you really can't wait to know more I strongly suggest you read the original novel. The story won't let you down. I believe the anime only tell the first half of the story now. (So it really takes a long time since they make 1 ep per week. )

lol appreciate Tencent and Sparkly Key for making the anime tho.

SPOILER!!!

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Jan 12, 2022 6:00 AM

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these 2 have done absolutely nothing to deserve this T_T The beating Tang San endured was brutal, and Xiao Wu had to sacrifice her everything to save him.

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Jan 31, 2022 11:06 PM

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Well. This was kinda the best soap opera action shounen ever. Wow.

Aug 24, 2022 11:38 PM

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f*** f*** f***. are you serious?

Sep 6, 2022 5:04 AM

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No way... I can't believe they do this to San and Wu...

May 16, 2023 5:10 PM

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I can't even understand how people are so amazed by such a flawed scenario... If I wasn't looking at the whole context I would say it's dramatic and quite good, but with the whole context, Wu sacrificing herself is too forced. First, we saw Titan Giant Ape and Sky Blue Bull Python getting frozen by Gui Mei and Yue Guan's Spirit Fusion, then weirdly enough low-quality members of Spirit Hall catches up with San and Wu (while it shouldn't be possible) then San gots damaged a lot, and weirdly enough they face with 30.000 years old man faced demon spider... Seriously? And then thanks to all these things of the actual spirit hall goons catch up with San and Wu and things end up with Wu sacrificing herself... I guess writing something good, different, and unique instead of cliche and not a copy of San's father and mother's story was hard for writers... Sure we saw how powerfull their love is, but the way things happened is flawed AF. I wish at least they included Bibi Dong to the party, so we would have logical explanation about Titan Giant Ape and Sky Blue Bull Python not being able to beat the Spirit Hall Party.

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Dec 8, 2023 12:15 AM

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I don't know if you'll ever read this reply, but I wanted to give my two cents on this topic.

Maybe it's because I read the novel, but I didn't feel it was as flawed as you say.

I'll first start by addressing the "copy paste" scenario where Tang San and Xiao Wu repeat what happened with his father; I think the whole point of this scene was that "history repeats itself", at least that is what I felt when reading the novel. Yes, it was predicable, but I think that was kind of the point.

Next you talk about how everything feels so forced. I think part of the problem is how the adaptation team has made modifications to how the plot is presented that this issue cropped up. The Douluo Dalu adaptation applies many of the techniques adaptation use to better tell a story using a visual format, and that is plot shuffling and plot modification. Plot shuffling, or moving around of plot points, can help better tell the story in a visual format, unlike what might be better for novels, by moving later plot revelations forward in order to keep audiences more engaged. Plot modification are changes made to the plot by the adaptation to add more detail for events only briefly described, patching plot holes, or even cut less important exposition. These changes can be both good and bad; some can enhance the work while other can end up disrupting what the novel portrays. All these end up creating the more flawed situation you describe.

How so? Well, first off, Gui Mei and Yue Guan's spirit fusion was supposed to be one of the most classified secrets of Spirit Hall and one of the reasons they had such high status in Spirit Hall. Their spirits were even used as symbols for the Pontiff Seal, which shows how important they are. In the novel, this was the first time this ability was revealed and no one knew about it; however, we had already seen this at least one time in Tang Hao's flashback to Tang Yin's sacrifice. In reality, while the Tang Hao fight's was great and exciting, the details of the fight were unknown to us and we only knew that Tang Hao forced the two back, seriously injured the then Pontiff and left with serious injuries of his own. This lessened the shock factor of their spirit fusion (which I repeat, basically no one knew of).

Now about the Ape and Python, they can 100% defeat the entire Spirit Hall party, the Spirit Fusion was meant to delay the two so the goons (army) they brought could complete the objective, which was to capture Xiao Wu.

So after the Ape and Python get frozen, the "low-quality members" who caught up aren't actually all that low quality. I don't think they showed it off very well, but they are all rank 70+ agility (speed) type spirit masters (7 in total I believe), which means 2 less than rank 60 spirit masters are fighting off 7 70+ agility masters. While Tang San and Xiao Wu are faster than regular spirit masters of similar rank due to his domain, flight, and sensing ability, the agility spirit masters are able to follow and track the two due to their specialty in speed. So Tang San needs to either shake them off or kill them to lose the Sprit Hall goons (army) in the area. They do succeed and kill all 7. The two needles at the end basically drains all of Tang San's spirit power, because it requires a special technique to use those poisonous needles (and not get poisoned himself).

The Man-Faced Demon Spider's ecology is better explained in the novel (or maybe the explained it once back when it first appeared, I don't remember), but it can consume other beasts or spirit masters to raise its cultivation. It had been following the Spirit Hall army in hopes of hunting and thus attacked Tang San and Xiao Wu at their weakest. This delay allowed the others to locate them (because the scouts got killed) and delayed the two enough for the others to catch up.

Anyway, that's just my view on this matter.

TLDR, the adaptation changed how the plot was presented and because of some lack of details, the situation feels more flawed in the donghua than in the novel.

Dec 27, 2023 1:55 PM

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I just started watching this show recently and just finished this episode, my reaction can be cut down to "holy shit! WTF! I'm crying, this is so sad"

Sep 23, 11:05 PM

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They really did this, man.... History does indeed repeat itself, such a fucking tragedy. What a sad death. I would love an asspull right about now, if there ever was one.

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