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unclesnapple said: I'm still very confused by the blonde guy's motives. He was trying to explain the goodness of destruction and why all those people had to die and why they're a "lie" and it confused me to all Hell. Yeah, really, what's up with him? |
| And now I know why this is called Ergo Proxy. At this point, trying to understand what proxies are or why they exist is useless. My brain's just going to overheat if I think about it XD Well one thing I do get is that it was Vincent who touched Re-L on the lips and Senekisu was the other proxy who attacked him. |
"May those who accept their fate be granted happiness." "May those who defy their fate be granted glory." |
| Great episode,so he is the agent of death. |
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| More monsters, ehh I expected good sci fi, not fighting super-monsters. I will continue watching, but I think, it is not story for me. |
| Dub = fake crap. Always. |
| Great episode. Some questions definitely answered. So these proxies are title the "proxy of -something" Does being the proxy of death mean that he will bring death to only proxies, or everyone around him. It seems like he is super powerful and the only proxy who tends to win each fight and has the ability to kill them. Hmm.... So I think they all have a different objective and they were suppose to fulfill their proxy roles within each city/dome, but Mr. Ergo proxy here forgot his mission. Interesting. Looking forward to this. Also another speculation about the soulmate proxies, could Vincent also have one? Could it be our main female lead? So MANY questions ugh |
lovexLuffyJan 6, 2018 5:28 AM
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| Ok, so I already knew that Vincent is a Proxy for some time but I was thinking that he is Ergo Proxy...Although I always called him "the big Proxy that kills all the other ones" :) But they could finally explain that are Proxys....And also, I wanna see Re-I... |
| If only I wasn't already spoiled that Vincent was a proxy, I would have enjoyed this more. I was also spoiled that Kazkis was a proxy just by looking at Troy Baker's MAL page. Great episode though. Still confused on what "Ergo Proxy" is. Pino <3 |
| Holy shit, Vincent is the Ergo Proxy? So is he like the strongest proxy due to the title of proxy of death? |
| So Vincent is a Proxy , this was cool . I like how dark the anime is , but i didn't like that monsters/proxy/awakening thing i feel like it would have been a better series without those monsters . Anyway , Good episode . |
| Ergo Proxy !! Shit that was awesome action. But wait if he supposedly erased his own memories.. Doesn't that mean he's just going in circle to find out what he is ? Now I want to know his and Monad's history behind all this fuss. Monad seems to have just suffered from all this ordeal. |
unclesnapple said: I'm still very confused by the blonde guy's motives. He was trying to explain the goodness of destruction and why all those people had to die and why they're a "lie" and it confused me to all Hell. I'm still confused. I don't even know, he sounded contradictory to me esp. whenever he mentioned his knights. I don't even care anymore. |
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UserDeleted said: Also, why are there talking naked statues in this anime show? I read somewhere that Donov uses the statues to communicate. |
| Finally some parts start to make sense. Proxies come in pairs so pretty sure vincent and lil are related. Maybe lil is proxy of life so shes announced death but might not be truly death! Also pino knew, smart girl but why wouldnt she tell vincent when he was wondering who he was etc |
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| Tilted angle shots were really abused in this episode. I know it's supposed to portray Vincent's disoriented sense of perception, but goodness gracious. And by the way, proxy of brilliance? Ergo Proxy - the proxy of death? So they weren't being arbitrary with the word proxy. Though, if this show goes the route of the proxies being representative of the human psyche, I fear this show will become, by all intents of the phrase, a battle of egos. In other words, being concerned with action and style over any actual discussion about the themes suggested throughout the show. |
| Proxy of death eh? Looks like he is a god of death (shinigami) afterall xD I mean he said he isn't before |
Rayl1ghtNov 17, 2016 4:58 AM
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| So Vincent is the Proxy of Death ... Ergo Proxy. I dont think there's any reason for me to dig deeper as to how and why, I'll just keep tagging along Vincent and see how the story unfolds. I'm kinda missing Re-L (ReaL) ... |
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| It's almost funny, the way the blonde guy talks. So cryptic. The only thing I understand is that he was feeling shitty about being a proxy, and Senex was his only source of happiness (if I can even call it that). Oh, and that he made some vague prediction, that there's an even greater revelation lying ahead for Vince, and it will be bad news for him. Well, at least I can count on Pino to make things less depressing. |
LeeTailorMay 13, 2017 7:38 AM
| pretty interesting ep, but i still want all the other questions answered xD |
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| Dam Vincent, you were right when you suspected you were the god of death or something. I wonder how the Proxies came to be. |
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| Vincent revealed as Ergo Proxy. One of the things the series does well through this point is both hint about Vincent, but also casting doubt, making the audience question what they think they know. The real question... how does he always have new gloves? I barely recall most of the middle episodes (except for a couple yet to come). Beginning and end I recall, just not much from the middle. Lot's of "what" answers this episode, not yet "why" answers. |
BurntJellyMar 9, 2018 6:01 PM
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| I don't understand why people are so surprised. It's was hinted from the very first episode that Vincent was a proxy. |
| Okay, Vincent really needs to lose his Spanish Inquisition outfit. Bleh And Pino will always be the best thing about this show. Now where will the sailboat take them to? And will death fall upon those they will encounter? |
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| That fucking curse pronounced in the midst of that Proxies' death throes... I'm convinced that these things are pagan deities fighting over a post-apocalyptic Earth. If they are associated with specific locations, like the two seem to be in these past episodes, that makes even more sense to me. These gods also seem to come in 'twos' which is interesting. Waiting to be proven wrong on that. |
syncrogazerJan 30, 2019 2:43 PM
Aozure said: Oh, sorry Mr Know-it-all!! Please, forgive us for not being as brilliant as you XDcantius said: *facepalm* This. I can't believe you people didn't realize that he WAS the Proxy >_> These smug dudes are unbearable. |
| i may be paranoid but no android |
| Floyd Mayweather English Tutor |
| I was expecting this series to be darker in tone than it is. And I wasn't expecting love to be such a big part of the lore. The whole Proxy of [insert thing] seems really random / fake deep. Not really into it. |
whitherOct 22, 2020 7:06 AM
| This episode had a lot to interpret from a psychological stand point. Glad to see the mysterious veil slowly reveal itself and look forward to Vince's potential discovery of his memories through visiting Mosk. |
Celest__Jun 4, 2021 6:03 PM
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| Glad to finally confirmed that Vincent is indeed that proxy that destroyed Re-L's bathroom. I wonder the reason he did that is to protect her from the first proxy and was subsequently "killed" or "comatose" and now being observed by Daedalus So Kazkis and Senekis are to be engaged. Kazkis was in charged of Asura and Senekis for Haros. I guess the reason why Asura and Haros was destroyed by both of them is to initiate the Day of Awakening. Seems Proxy is indeed a "race" or "species" or "being". Ergo Proxy. The Proxy of Death!  I love how Pino made another recount while waiting for Vincent XD |
| I probably would’ve been more shocked at this reveal that Vincent is a proxy if not for the fact both him and Ergo Proxy have the same VA |
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| so it looks like each town or whatever has a proxy and that's related to the births? so is mosks or whatever's proxy the ergo proxy? and i think him being a traitor has something to do with his denying his own existence and wiping his memory and running off to somewhere else. |
StateofOhayoAug 16, 2021 9:22 PM
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KohaiMinus said: While I enjoy the tone and the characters so far, the actual dialogue and editing are kinda awful. Characters often show up places without it making sense how they got there. Blonde dude shoots Vince on the stairs, and then suddenly Vince is in that white room with blonde dudes following him, there's no logical line for how/why characters are where they are. Why did blonde dude let Vince get away? After that blonde dude in proxy form is drinking wine and Vince is following him? Like I can connect the dots in my head for the most part and come up with my own reasons for why certain things happen but its still extremely jarring. And lines of dialogue that if were spoken to me I would immediately question the validity of. Vince says something like "If Im not human how can I go on living" Idk a lot of things that are living go on living without being human. Does the average person wake up and think "Gosh if I happened to be anything but human it would be pointless to continue living, being human is the reason I want to keep living"? Its just an extremely weird line of logic to follow. Blonde dude says "The only option must be that you erased your own memories then" like whoa, that's pretty presumptuous. I get that that's what the writers are telling us actually happened, but there's no inherent line of deduction that absolutely proves that statement true. Maybe the man just hit his head real hard on accident. You don't know his life. A bit nit picky but stuff like that makes this seem a bit jarring and illogical, and its starting to pile up. Really hoping it regains its footing with structure and shots composition/editing. Thanks, im not the only one to be bothered by all this. But i think EVERY seinen anime from 90's + 2000's was like this, so annoying. The screenwriter, the director, the editors, the producers, everyone with some sanity could tell: "hey, it is too messed up". But on purpose the allowed the direction and dialogues to be this confuse, because at 90's it was "cult, stylish". |
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| Vincent being a proxy makes sense for sure with how it was hinted before, so it means he sealed his memory to acquire a human form and leave the city he was supposed to supervise for some reason, also seems like Pino knew all of it hm |
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| So Vincent was the Ergo Proxy the entire time. I thought the Proxy was an alter ego or something xD |
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| It was already obvious but finally we get the confirmation that not only is Vincent a proxy but also the one who was in mc's bathroom, the ergo proxy... cool fight Proxys = Gods, so he's the god of death while the other guy is the god of brilliance (and they said something about truth too?), makes sense since he's the one who forced Vicent to open his eyes. Autoreivs get "infected" by them and start worshipping them (getting on their knees praying etc) |
nostalgiaasSep 26, 2022 1:25 AM
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| RRRROOOOOLLLLLLLL CREDDDIIIITTTTSSSS |
  NYANPASU  whiskey tango foxtrot |
| That blonde proxy guy was downing that red wine like a machine. I'm guessing being a proxy made him immune to alcohol poisoning and other assorted side effects associated with being in a constant state of wine drinking. |
  ｲ乇刀乇乃尺ﾑ乇 ╔⏤═⏤╝   ╚⏤═⏤╗☽ Shaded Horizon ☾ |
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