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May 21, 2019 9:12 AM
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Sigh... Okay listen, I'm not sure why but still one of the biggest mistakes I see in the Sekirei fandom is people either A) Believing Homura aka Kagari is a woman, or B) Believing it's okay to say he "switched" over. And you are absolutely incorrect entirely and it's annoying to see. I don't mean to complain and I'm not trying to pull anything political but Homura chose MALE and wants to be MALE, he is NOT happy he developed breasts, which by the way is the ONLY thing he developed. He canonly has male genitals. He's a man with breasts. Please refer to him as such.

If you'd like proof of this obvious claim, please refer to the source himself. Whether manga or anime, Homura clearly states in his distress before being winged, "You can't even tell if I'm a man or a woman." Meaning he's currently inhabiting both male and female parts. Well we can clearly see the female parts so guess where the male ones are. (Interestingly when we see all the girls get winged we usually see their whole bodies, for Homura we never see past his hips.)
Homura also says "I never get to live for myself," and "In the end, I chose male for myself and thought I have stabilized." He CHOOSE to be male and wants to be male. He is male. Respect his wishes and refer to him as male. Even the characters within the manga refer to him as male so I'm highly confused why people still think he's female just because a pair of boobs grew on him.

He is NOT a full female and never was. He was never a girl. He was always a man with boobs. And that's final. I feel like this is an important thing to bring up because it's a common mistake in the fandom to this day. Once again this isn't anything political. It's just plain rude to ignore Homura's true self and wants.
Mar 5, 2020 8:28 PM
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I liked so much the anime but the manga becomes pretty boring.

I was saturated with boredom and so I couldnt help but to drop the manga after 110 chapters right after
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Sep 12, 2020 3:42 PM
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DutchessPsyche said:
Sigh... Okay listen, I'm not sure why but still one of the biggest mistakes I see in the Sekirei fandom is people either A) Believing Homura aka Kagari is a woman, or B) Believing it's okay to say he "switched" over. And you are absolutely incorrect entirely and it's annoying to see. I don't mean to complain and I'm not trying to pull anything political but Homura chose MALE and wants to be MALE, he is NOT happy he developed breasts, which by the way is the ONLY thing he developed. He canonly has male genitals. He's a man with breasts. Please refer to him as such.

If you'd like proof of this obvious claim, please refer to the source himself. Whether manga or anime, Homura clearly states in his distress before being winged, "You can't even tell if I'm a man or a woman." Meaning he's currently inhabiting both male and female parts. Well we can clearly see the female parts so guess where the male ones are. (Interestingly when we see all the girls get winged we usually see their whole bodies, for Homura we never see past his hips.)
Homura also says "I never get to live for myself," and "In the end, I chose male for myself and thought I have stabilized." He CHOOSE to be male and wants to be male. He is male. Respect his wishes and refer to him as male. Even the characters within the manga refer to him as male so I'm highly confused why people still think he's female just because a pair of boobs grew on him.

He is NOT a full female and never was. He was never a girl. He was always a man with boobs. And that's final. I feel like this is an important thing to bring up because it's a common mistake in the fandom to this day. Once again this isn't anything political. It's just plain rude to ignore Homura's true self and wants.

O.K., so Homura is pretty intersex. Having read the manga, my take is by the end of the series Homura became a woman in mind, body, and soul and identified as such. Also, I don't see Minato being bisexual outside of the situational kissing Homura.
Kadmos1Sep 12, 2020 3:50 PM
Sep 15, 2020 6:39 AM
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Kadmos1 said:
DutchessPsyche said:
Sigh... Okay listen, I'm not sure why but still one of the biggest mistakes I see in the Sekirei fandom is people either A) Believing Homura aka Kagari is a woman, or B) Believing it's okay to say he "switched" over. And you are absolutely incorrect entirely and it's annoying to see. I don't mean to complain and I'm not trying to pull anything political but Homura chose MALE and wants to be MALE, he is NOT happy he developed breasts, which by the way is the ONLY thing he developed. He canonly has male genitals. He's a man with breasts. Please refer to him as such.

If you'd like proof of this obvious claim, please refer to the source himself. Whether manga or anime, Homura clearly states in his distress before being winged, "You can't even tell if I'm a man or a woman." Meaning he's currently inhabiting both male and female parts. Well we can clearly see the female parts so guess where the male ones are. (Interestingly when we see all the girls get winged we usually see their whole bodies, for Homura we never see past his hips.)
Homura also says "I never get to live for myself," and "In the end, I chose male for myself and thought I have stabilized." He CHOOSE to be male and wants to be male. He is male. Respect his wishes and refer to him as male. Even the characters within the manga refer to him as male so I'm highly confused why people still think he's female just because a pair of boobs grew on him.

He is NOT a full female and never was. He was never a girl. He was always a man with boobs. And that's final. I feel like this is an important thing to bring up because it's a common mistake in the fandom to this day. Once again this isn't anything political. It's just plain rude to ignore Homura's true self and wants.

O.K., so Homura is pretty intersex. Having read the manga, my take is by the end of the series Homura became a woman in mind, body, and soul and identified as such. Also, I don't see Minato being bisexual outside of the situational kissing Homura.


....What!? How did you miss that entirely!! Homura has NEVER ever EVER referred to HIMself as female and so has NONE of the surrounding characters. You are blatantly pushing your homophobic and/or fetishes on HIM. He was never female. Never will be and Minato is free to be any sexuality he wants to be. Kagari and Minato aren't even officially dating. By the end of the manga, Kagari went back to his host club job where he WANTS to be a host again. Unfortunately the thing stopping him is breasts which is what he clearly says. I have proof. The source material.

You are pushing a headcanon onto Kagari that has no canon backing whatsoever.
Dec 21, 2020 7:07 PM
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DutchessPsyche said:
Kadmos1 said:

O.K., so Homura is pretty intersex. Having read the manga, my take is by the end of the series Homura became a woman in mind, body, and soul and identified as such. Also, I don't see Minato being bisexual outside of the situational kissing Homura.


....What!? How did you miss that entirely!! Homura has NEVER ever EVER referred to HIMself as female and so has NONE of the surrounding characters. You are blatantly pushing your homophobic and/or fetishes on HIM. He was never female. Never will be and Minato is free to be any sexuality he wants to be. Kagari and Minato aren't even officially dating. By the end of the manga, Kagari went back to his host club job where he WANTS to be a host again. Unfortunately the thing stopping him is breasts which is what he clearly says. I have proof. The source material.

You are pushing a headcanon onto Kagari that has no canon backing whatsoever.

O.K., so I admit to being wrong about the identifying as a woman bit. However, it is implied that Homura is intersex or similar. My take is that what Homura is but Homura IDs as a guy!
Dec 21, 2020 7:12 PM
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Kadmos1 said:
DutchessPsyche said:


....What!? How did you miss that entirely!! Homura has NEVER ever EVER referred to HIMself as female and so has NONE of the surrounding characters. You are blatantly pushing your homophobic and/or fetishes on HIM. He was never female. Never will be and Minato is free to be any sexuality he wants to be. Kagari and Minato aren't even officially dating. By the end of the manga, Kagari went back to his host club job where he WANTS to be a host again. Unfortunately the thing stopping him is breasts which is what he clearly says. I have proof. The source material.

You are pushing a headcanon onto Kagari that has no canon backing whatsoever.

O.K., so I admit to being wrong about the identifying as a woman bit. However, it is implied that Homura is intersex or similar. My take is that what Homura is but Homura IDs as a guy!
Homura has CANONLY fucked women. No okay, to be fair, I guess in some really really really r e a l l y rare instance, it's possible for him to have sex with intersex genitals but highly unlikely since you can't have both 100% usually one genitalia is more present than the other. And since all his clients see him as male then...

But I guess your headcanon is okay. As long as you acknowledge he's a man. Has a dick. Unfortunately has tits. And maybe just maybe may have more feminine sexual traits.
May 25, 2021 5:56 PM
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Physically he is intersex, mentally he is male. What else to discuss?
Aug 3, 2021 9:13 PM
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asei said:
Physically he is intersex, mentally he is male. What else to discuss?

Nope he's not. He's a cis male with tits
Aug 4, 2021 2:12 AM
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DutchessPsyche said:
asei said:
Physically he is intersex, mentally he is male. What else to discuss?

Nope he's not. He's a cis male with tits


And what's the difference?
Aug 4, 2021 2:20 AM
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asei said:
DutchessPsyche said:

Nope he's not. He's a cis male with tits


And what's the difference?


Oh you just don't know what intersex means. Intersex deals with the genitals between the legs. Not the boobs. Intersex is a birth defect where it appears the person has both a vagina and a penis but they're not fully formed. Underdeveloped.

That's very much not the case with Homura, before he grew boobs, he had a fully functional penis and had regular sex with his clients as Host from his club. If you couldn't tell. Homura is an escort. Kinda like prostitution.
Aug 4, 2021 2:24 AM
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DutchessPsyche said:
asei said:


And what's the difference?


Oh you just don't know what intersex means. Intersex deals with the genitals between the legs. Not the boobs. Intersex is a birth defect where it appears the person has both a vagina and a penis but they're not fully formed. Underdeveloped.

That's very much not the case with Homura, before he grew boobs, he had a fully functional penis and had regular sex with his clients as Host from his club. If you couldn't tell. Homura is an escort. Kinda like prostitution.


So, my intention was to name Homura intersex, because that's how I perceived him. And your description of intersex is what I had in mind.
But yes, it looks like he is a man with boobs.
Aug 4, 2021 2:33 AM
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asei said:
DutchessPsyche said:


Oh you just don't know what intersex means. Intersex deals with the genitals between the legs. Not the boobs. Intersex is a birth defect where it appears the person has both a vagina and a penis but they're not fully formed. Underdeveloped.

That's very much not the case with Homura, before he grew boobs, he had a fully functional penis and had regular sex with his clients as Host from his club. If you couldn't tell. Homura is an escort. Kinda like prostitution.


So, my intention was to name Homura intersex, because that's how I perceived him. And your description of intersex is what I had in mind.
But yes, it looks like he is a man with boobs.


Oh my apologies. But I'm glad we came to an agreement!
Sep 23, 2021 4:28 PM
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DutchessPsyche said:
Sigh... Okay listen, I'm not sure why but still one of the biggest mistakes I see in the Sekirei fandom is people either A) Believing Homura aka Kagari is a woman, or B) Believing it's okay to say he "switched" over. And you are absolutely incorrect entirely and it's annoying to see. I don't mean to complain and I'm not trying to pull anything political but Homura chose MALE and wants to be MALE, he is NOT happy he developed breasts, which by the way is the ONLY thing he developed. He canonly has male genitals. He's a man with breasts. Please refer to him as such.

If you'd like proof of this obvious claim, please refer to the source himself. Whether manga or anime, Homura clearly states in his distress before being winged, "You can't even tell if I'm a man or a woman." Meaning he's currently inhabiting both male and female parts. Well we can clearly see the female parts so guess where the male ones are. (Interestingly when we see all the girls get winged we usually see their whole bodies, for Homura we never see past his hips.)
Homura also says "I never get to live for myself," and "In the end, I chose male for myself and thought I have stabilized." He CHOOSE to be male and wants to be male. He is male. Respect his wishes and refer to him as male. Even the characters within the manga refer to him as male so I'm highly confused why people still think he's female just because a pair of boobs grew on him.

He is NOT a full female and never was. He was never a girl. He was always a man with boobs. And that's final. I feel like this is an important thing to bring up because it's a common mistake in the fandom to this day. Once again this isn't anything political. It's just plain rude to ignore Homura's true self and wants.
its an anime character you typed a whole essay about pronouns and respect for this drawing no one cares if you want him to be a boy cool most people dont care. Youre wasting your time
Sep 24, 2021 2:45 AM
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BreadSmith said:
DutchessPsyche said:
Sigh... Okay listen, I'm not sure why but still one of the biggest mistakes I see in the Sekirei fandom is people either A) Believing Homura aka Kagari is a woman, or B) Believing it's okay to say he "switched" over. And you are absolutely incorrect entirely and it's annoying to see. I don't mean to complain and I'm not trying to pull anything political but Homura chose MALE and wants to be MALE, he is NOT happy he developed breasts, which by the way is the ONLY thing he developed. He canonly has male genitals. He's a man with breasts. Please refer to him as such.

If you'd like proof of this obvious claim, please refer to the source himself. Whether manga or anime, Homura clearly states in his distress before being winged, "You can't even tell if I'm a man or a woman." Meaning he's currently inhabiting both male and female parts. Well we can clearly see the female parts so guess where the male ones are. (Interestingly when we see all the girls get winged we usually see their whole bodies, for Homura we never see past his hips.)
Homura also says "I never get to live for myself," and "In the end, I chose male for myself and thought I have stabilized." He CHOOSE to be male and wants to be male. He is male. Respect his wishes and refer to him as male. Even the characters within the manga refer to him as male so I'm highly confused why people still think he's female just because a pair of boobs grew on him.

He is NOT a full female and never was. He was never a girl. He was always a man with boobs. And that's final. I feel like this is an important thing to bring up because it's a common mistake in the fandom to this day. Once again this isn't anything political. It's just plain rude to ignore Homura's true self and wants.
its an anime character you typed a whole essay about pronouns and respect for this drawing no one cares if you want him to be a boy cool most people dont care. Youre wasting your time


For someone who doesn't care you sure took the time to read and reply to what I said lmfao I think you do care. I'm guessing you're one of the people who have zero reading comprehension and assumed he was a girl? Despite that literally never being said in the anime nor manga?
Nov 4, 2021 7:23 PM
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DutchessPsyche said:
BreadSmith said:
its an anime character you typed a whole essay about pronouns and respect for this drawing no one cares if you want him to be a boy cool most people dont care. Youre wasting your time


For someone who doesn't care you sure took the time to read and reply to what I said lmfao I think you do care. I'm guessing you're one of the people who have zero reading comprehension and assumed he was a girl? Despite that literally never being said in the anime nor manga?


The "you replied, therefore, you care" argument is the most retarded thing and you have to be 12 in order to use it. If you want to respect a fictional character's pronouns go ahead lmao no one is going to stop you just telling you no one cares if he's a boy or a girl and you're wasting your time trying to get people to agree with you on respecting a drawings pronouns in which you don't know because you can not ask a drawing what their pronouns are :D you are one of the dumbest people I have ever seen no joke "disrespecting his true self and wants" LMAOOOOOOOO
Nov 6, 2021 5:02 AM
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BreadSmith said:
DutchessPsyche said:


For someone who doesn't care you sure took the time to read and reply to what I said lmfao I think you do care. I'm guessing you're one of the people who have zero reading comprehension and assumed he was a girl? Despite that literally never being said in the anime nor manga?


The "you replied, therefore, you care" argument is the most retarded thing and you have to be 12 in order to use it. If you want to respect a fictional character's pronouns go ahead lmao no one is going to stop you just telling you no one cares if he's a boy or a girl and you're wasting your time trying to get people to agree with you on respecting a drawings pronouns in which you don't know because you can not ask a drawing what their pronouns are :D you are one of the dumbest people I have ever seen no joke "disrespecting his true self and wants" LMAOOOOOOOO

Oof pinched a nerve with you huh? Lmfao
Nov 6, 2021 5:03 AM
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DutchessPsyche said:
BreadSmith said:


The "you replied, therefore, you care" argument is the most retarded thing and you have to be 12 in order to use it. If you want to respect a fictional character's pronouns go ahead lmao no one is going to stop you just telling you no one cares if he's a boy or a girl and you're wasting your time trying to get people to agree with you on respecting a drawings pronouns in which you don't know because you can not ask a drawing what their pronouns are :D you are one of the dumbest people I have ever seen no joke "disrespecting his true self and wants" LMAOOOOOOOO

Oof pinched a nerve with you huh? Lmfao

Completely dismissed your verbal beating now deflecting yikesss
Nov 6, 2021 10:09 PM
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BreadSmith said:
DutchessPsyche said:

Oof pinched a nerve with you huh? Lmfao

Completely dismissed your verbal beating now deflecting yikesss

Verbal beating??? Oh honey, no... you actually thought that was a good comeback? Listen as someone who loves to argue on the internet for fun, I'd love to continue this really intellectual conversation of how much you apparently don't care but I honestly don't believe you and this back and forth is getting boring.
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I don't care, Homura is a woman. Cry about it.

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