| I want to know what the people that didn't give it 8-10's like most thought about it. I was looking forward to this movie a lot and was sadly disappointed. I think the cliché and the girls personality kinda put me off but besides that it was just kind of... eh. Don't know how else to explain it. |
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Gabbar101 said: Well yeah seeing it high rating i was also expecting much from from it but i also feel somewhat betrayed. Animation and music was top-class no doubt. But story was predictable and nothing new and character were pretty bland. Well for a one time watch it is a good movie. Its a 7.5/10 for me. Well for me I was not expecting for the guy to get fucked over so at least there was that. I thought it would be the usual generic "guy saves her from her problem" and that was it. And he didn't jump in front of the car and push her aside to save her life cliché we have seen a million times which I fucking hate. It was unexpected/interesting to see that they all treated her normally and never mentioned her disability which I thought was cool. But I can't say much after that. |
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| yeaa very very cliche. him getting injured instead of her was ehhh but i really really hated the fact that what got her up again was a love rival, that pissed me off sm lol. her grandma died, she gave up on her dreams, her crush got hurt because of her, she's depressed as fuck and what made her get her shit together was a love rival????? |
| I posted this in the discussion thread but I'll throw it here because I gave it a 7. Probably my biggest problem was going from drama, to kinda over the top melodrama in the 2nd half. I mean you really could of wrote that scene up before even seeing that movie. What's the conflict 2/3 through the movie going to be? She has wheel chair trouble and he gets hit by a car. It's so cliché that it's almost charming, like they felt they were obligated to do something like that to make the drama gods happy. It seemed like they almost made the guy too flawless so where would the struggle and conflict come from otherwise the movie would almost be gross and turn just into "guy savior" who saves "poor girl". So they give him a horrible injury where he could end up not being able to walk and I guess his life was so solo focused that him not being able to dive makes him basically lifeless. I wish the second half drama was toned down a bit, made more simple and personally focused between the two leads. Also, and I feel I never think this, but I wish the movie was a bit longer, maybe 20-30 minutes just focused on the two main characters relationship and them being together. We don't get a lot of truly great relationship moments between them and their situation, doesn't seemed forced, but is just kinda... there. It's not really a build up or evolution it's goes from step 1 to step 5. To go along with the short run time, the side characters just being there to move the plot along should be expected but for some reason it was so obvious. Oh and I've been done with movies having leads fall in love, but have to be apart for extended periods of time, followed by times skips. I hate that crap more than anything in romance anime. Stop doing time skips, stop having characters finally realize they love each other and want to be together only to have them be apart, but passing it off as a good thing, but they are doing their own things. That alone is at least minus 1 point on any score for me. |
| I have just finished watching it. In short, the story is very generic and somewhat predictable, especially the accident and injury part. It definitely feels rushed and the characters are not fleshed out, especially the female lead's. I think that the relationship between the two leads was forced. I didn't like how the MC is portrayed as the selfless guy who'd do anything for the gloomy girl that hates everyone and everything, but still be able to keep up with her BS. It's not in the least bit realistic. I also think that some aspects could have received more focus, like how despite her disability, the girl can still rely on herself, find a job and go about her life, and have a social life. I also don't understand the confession of Mai?! Was she happy he got injured and isn't leaving for Mexico? Was she happy he didn't die? Like that whole scene was very confusing. The ending was melodramatic. While I usually don't have issues with that, in this movie it feels like there was no morale or takeaway. Prince charming has an injury that supposedly can't be fully healed, but he runs to the girl he loves and saves her for the second time at the same place, by pure coincidence. All in all, I think it was poor to mediocre storytelling. |
samashi20Jun 25, 2021 3:08 AM
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| Average storytelling or forced romance. The live action is better than the anime. Welp, I gave it 10/10 for the effort. |
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Gween_Gween said: i swear that some of the points of people who doesnt like this are the most cherry picked dumbass reasons that i have seen yet. seems like people who doesnt like this cant come up with any reasonable argument, just say that it didnt click with you and stfu how are the points bad? Maybe if it was just one abstract cliché thing i could understand but if the movie if illed with it, what do you expect? What do you want people to say? faynboy said: uh what? hell no she was a bitch. do you not remember what she did by the bridge near josee? I wished the other girl would win,she's cuter She went to meet the other guy friend and they saw josee and she went up to her and said: "Tsuneo is only taking care of you because he feels sorry for you". |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: Gween_Gween said: i swear that some of the points of people who doesnt like this are the most cherry picked dumbass reasons that i have seen yet. seems like people who doesnt like this cant come up with any reasonable argument, just say that it didnt click with you and stfu how are the points bad? Maybe if it was just one abstract cliché thing i could understand but if the movie if illed with it, what do you expect? What do you want people to say? nah thats is a point that i understand, is the other rationalizations |
| It was definitely very cliche, which isn't terrible outright but unfortunately, this series chose to take a lot of the worse cliches Plus it's yet another case where the love rival is a much better fit for the MC than the actual love interest lmao. Honestly reminds me a lot of Toradora what with how the FL just abuses the ML constantly and he doesn't really mind it all that much, and also how the more caring love interest gets shunned away lol. Never really got the appeal of those types of characters but oh well to each their own To give its credit it for sure definitely has some of the best cinematography, and there were some cliches that were well executed (like Josee's redemption part) but overall I'm actually quite surprised it has as high of a score as it does. The part where he got into the accident was actually a surprise direction ngl |
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| People are saying the cliche part turned them off but it isn't that for me, it's the fact that it didn't add anything to the cliche. The characters were also really annoying, and the way it portrayed disability felt more like a way to move the plot rather than genuine recognition. |
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| i like this movie, but IMO it could be better if they put the story a little bit more clearer from the FMC POV, abt her past and how she end up at wheel chair ^^ |
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| personally found it kind of ableist :/ also josee was annoying as hell (why are you threatening to lie and say someone groped you !! why do tsunderes do this ??) until their roles swapped, and suddenly tsuneo was the annoying one. i found it incredibly irritating that when he got into an accident which POSSIBLY could have left him unable to dive (which, from the after credits scene, doesn't seem to be the case), he took it out on everyone around him including the girl who's been this way her whole goddamn life. insensitive much??? i admit specific parts were cute, + the animation and soundtrack were beautiful but .. the plot and characters were super lackluster. (also the love rival whose name i cant remember SUCKED 100%. and was super ableist. way to go, tell a disabled girl that the guy she likes pities her because you "deserve him more". christ, could we get some decent female rep in anime?? ever?) |
yoroshikus said: please god be troll.personally found it kind of ableist :/ also josee was annoying as hell (why are you threatening to lie and say someone groped you !! why do tsunderes do this ??) until their roles swapped, and suddenly tsuneo was the annoying one. i found it incredibly irritating that when he got into an accident which POSSIBLY could have left him unable to dive (which, from the after credits scene, doesn't seem to be the case), he took it out on everyone around him including the girl who's been this way her whole goddamn life. insensitive much??? i admit specific parts were cute, + the animation and soundtrack were beautiful but .. the plot and characters were super lackluster. (also the love rival whose name i cant remember SUCKED 100%. and was super ableist. way to go, tell a disabled girl that the guy she likes pities her because you "deserve him more". christ, could we get some decent female rep in anime?? ever?) Please to anyone who says shit like "ableist". |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: hi! im not trolling :) i just dont think its cool to treat disabled people like shit & didnt enjoy how cliche this movie was lolyoroshikus said: please god be troll.personally found it kind of ableist :/ also josee was annoying as hell (why are you threatening to lie and say someone groped you !! why do tsunderes do this ??) until their roles swapped, and suddenly tsuneo was the annoying one. i found it incredibly irritating that when he got into an accident which POSSIBLY could have left him unable to dive (which, from the after credits scene, doesn't seem to be the case), he took it out on everyone around him including the girl who's been this way her whole goddamn life. insensitive much??? i admit specific parts were cute, + the animation and soundtrack were beautiful but .. the plot and characters were super lackluster. (also the love rival whose name i cant remember SUCKED 100%. and was super ableist. way to go, tell a disabled girl that the guy she likes pities her because you "deserve him more". christ, could we get some decent female rep in anime?? ever?) Please to anyone who says shit like "ableist". |
yoroshikus said: hi! im not trolling :) i just dont think its cool to treat disabled people like shit & didnt enjoy how cliche this movie was lol So if a white person calls a black person an asshole, is he racist? This is a movie and she is pissed off/jealous of her... which is WHY she said that. |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: no lol its racist to specifically make someone feel like shit BECAUSE they are black... just like its ableist to tell a disabled person that their only friend only hangs around them because theyre disabledyoroshikus said: hi! im not trolling :) i just dont think its cool to treat disabled people like shit & didnt enjoy how cliche this movie was lol So if a white person calls a black person an asshole, is he racist? This is a movie and she is pissed off/jealous of her... which is WHY she said that. |
yoroshikus said: Kayle_x_Morgana said: no lol its racist to specifically make someone feel like shit BECAUSE they are black... just like its ableist to tell a disabled person that their only friend only hangs around them because theyre disabledSo if a white person calls a black person an asshole, is he racist? This is a movie and she is pissed off/jealous of her... which is WHY she said that. Yes she said that because she was mad and jealous of her? |
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yoroshikus said: She wasn’t treating her like shit because of her disability. She treated her like shit because she was her love rival. She liked the guy that likes the disabled girl, so she attacked her. All romances have a love rival that causes problems for the main couple. That’s how the drama is created. Also, one person in a movie talking crap about disabled people doesn’t mean the whole movie is ableist. It would just mean that person is a bully and jerk. I mean the disabled girl gets the guy in the end, so it wasn’t ableist in the slightest.Kayle_x_Morgana said: no lol its racist to specifically make someone feel like shit BECAUSE they are black... just like its ableist to tell a disabled person that their only friend only hangs around them because theyre disabledSo if a white person calls a black person an asshole, is he racist? This is a movie and she is pissed off/jealous of her... which is WHY she said that. |
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Kayle_x_Morgana said: yes....? she made an ableist remark because she was jealous ..... doesnt make it less badyoroshikus said: no lol its racist to specifically make someone feel like shit BECAUSE they are black... just like its ableist to tell a disabled person that their only friend only hangs around them because theyre disabled Yes she said that because she was mad and jealous of her? |
Crystal_Star07 said: I mean the disabled girl gets the guy in the end, so it wasn’t ableist in the slightest. im sorry this is so fucking funny to me lol |
yoroshikus said: Crystal_Star07 said: I mean the disabled girl gets the guy in the end, so it wasn’t ableist in the slightest. im sorry this is so fucking funny to me lol yoroshikus said: Um what is funny about it?Crystal_Star07 said: I mean the disabled girl gets the guy in the end, so it wasn’t ableist in the slightest. im sorry this is so fucking funny to me lol |
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yoroshikus said: yes....? she made an ableist remark because she was jealous ..... doesnt make it less bad She making ableist remarks doesnt make the movie ableist like people in an slavery movie making racist remarks wouldnt make the movie racist. The intent of the movie was to push forward people from their own struggles and making them be able to explore their own dreams even with their own limitations, not saying "You are disabled hence you are inferior". During the running time of the movie Josee start from being unable of leaving the house because of self imposed rules to being able to enjoy her own freedom and starting to develop herself. How is that ableist? |
Gween_Gween said: this is a fair point, i agree w you. the movie itself isnt ableist so i was wrong to say that. the ableist stuff within the movie still irked me.. it was just my initial reaction while watching. not a terrible movie, i just really didnt like some of the characters actions.yoroshikus said: yes....? she made an ableist remark because she was jealous ..... doesnt make it less bad She making ableist remarks doesnt make the movie ableist like people in an slavery movie making racist remarks wouldnt make the movie racist. The intent of the movie was to push forward people from their own struggles and making them be able to explore their own dreams even with their own limitations, not saying "You are disabled hence you are inferior". During the running time of the movie Josee start from being unable of leaving the house because of self imposed rules to being able to enjoy her own freedom and starting to develop herself. How is that ableist? |
yoroshikusJul 16, 2021 9:28 PM
vault-dweller said: I wish the second half drama was toned down a bit, made more simple and personally focused between the two leads. Also, and I feel I never think this, but I wish the movie was a bit longer, maybe 20-30 minutes just focused on the two main characters relationship and them being together. We don't get a lot of truly great relationship moments between them and their situation, doesn't seemed forced, but is just kinda... there. It's not really a build up or evolution it's goes from step 1 to step 5. To go along with the short run time, the side characters just being there to move the plot along should be expected but for some reason it was so obvious. Just curious but what romance movie do you think does a relationship properly with great buildup and provides a lot of great relationship moments. I feel like every romance anime has this issue. Kimi no na wa and Weathering with you are huge examples that relied heavily on montages. |
FlamingMangosJul 17, 2021 6:24 PM
FlamingMangos said: vault-dweller said: I wish the second half drama was toned down a bit, made more simple and personally focused between the two leads. Also, and I feel I never think this, but I wish the movie was a bit longer, maybe 20-30 minutes just focused on the two main characters relationship and them being together. We don't get a lot of truly great relationship moments between them and their situation, doesn't seemed forced, but is just kinda... there. It's not really a build up or evolution it's goes from step 1 to step 5. To go along with the short run time, the side characters just being there to move the plot along should be expected but for some reason it was so obvious. Just curious but what romance movie do you think does a relationship properly with great buildup and provides a lot of great relationship moments. I feel like every romance anime has this issue. Kimi no na wa and Weathering with you are huge examples that relied heavily on montages. Hmmm... that's hard to say. I'm probably in line with you on that. Honest answer is I might of never seen one that perfectly fits that description. I haven't seen a ton of romance movies. I mean my favorite romance movie ever is Millennium Actress and that's a very different kind of romance since you don't really see a couple together and it doesn't end with them getting together, but the retelling of the main characters love was just amazing. I've Always Liked You is a sweet movie, but certainly nothing amazing and suffers too much from the typical, wishy washy high school attitudes. The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya does have some nice moments in it, but I don't know if I'd consider that a romance first and foremost. I agree with you on Kimi No Na Wa. The moments of the two leads being together isn't quite enough. The first two Inu Yasha movies actually aren't bad for this, but it's Inu Yasha so you kinda know what you're getting going in, though they do both end nicely. And even though it's not my favorite series and I don't even remember the name of it, the Naruto movie where he finally admits he loves Hinata kinda works for this.... Maybe my best example might be the TV show from earlier this year Horimiya. It's just nearly 50% of the show doesn't focus on the main leads. |
vault-dweller said: FlamingMangos said: Just curious but what romance movie do you think does a relationship properly with great buildup and provides a lot of great relationship moments. I feel like every romance anime has this issue. Kimi no na wa and Weathering with you are huge examples that relied heavily on montages. Hmmm... that's hard to say. I'm probably in line with you on that. Honest answer is I might of never seen one that perfectly fits that description. I haven't seen a ton of romance movies. I mean my favorite romance movie ever is Millennium Actress and that's a very different kind of romance since you don't really see a couple together and it doesn't end with them getting together, but the retelling of the main characters love was just amazing. I've Always Liked You is a sweet movie, but certainly nothing amazing and suffers too much from the typical, wishy washy high school attitudes. The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya does have some nice moments in it, but I don't know if I'd consider that a romance first and foremost. I agree with you on Kimi No Na Wa. The moments of the two leads being together isn't quite enough. The first two Inu Yasha movies actually aren't bad for this, but it's Inu Yasha so you kinda know what you're getting going in, though they do both end nicely. Maybe my best example might be the TV show from earlier this year Horimiya. It's just nearly 50% of the show doesn't focus on the main leads. If we're talking about standalone romance movies. They always have some kind of flaw that takes away from the romance like not having a kiss scene for example or lacking character interactions but I think Josee to Tora to Sakana-tachi has the least flaws for a romance movie that is why I can't help but praise it so heavily. Of course it ain't flawless but it still has the least problems for a romance movie so honestly, it has to be my favorite romance movie. |
FlamingMangosJul 17, 2021 7:48 PM
| The drama feels forced imo, but i still give it an 8/10 because it's so wholesome |
| way to cliché the beginning was nice but then it turned into a melodramatic mush, MC literally got his shit togheter because he heared a recap of what happened, would have been much better if he fought throuh it and his friend were mostly annoying. feels like wasted potention since the animation music and voice acting was superb and i think those things make people overrate the story because it was nice to look at and listen too |
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