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Jul 1, 2021 2:23 AM
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Never underestimate someone like Lyserg in this show. He seems like the type of guy that you wouldn't know what hit you before it's too late.

Not going to lie, I think this episode was thrilling especially with how Lyserg grew up to who he is now in the present day. That feeling of vengeance says it all.
Jul 1, 2021 2:39 AM
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Amazing Episode, Lyserg's a really cool character and this is getting hype. Next episode WE WILL FINALLY SEE IT ANIMATEDπŸ₯ΊπŸ’™
Jul 1, 2021 3:19 AM
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Another awesome episode πŸ˜„ But rating still goes down.. What's wrong with peoples
Jul 1, 2021 11:25 AM
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What an obsession with characters appearing out of nowhere for a random fight....

How naive Lyserg, you can never beat the power of friendship

Well, next episode will be interesting, secrets of the Asakura family 0.0
Jul 1, 2021 5:18 PM
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Well Lyserg has finally shown up but more importantly than that, we got a new ending and for some reason the whole thing is Jeanne focused which is very interesting. Hopefully this means they'll give her story proper time and attention which it definitely needs since it's one of the best parts of this series. I'll definitely take it as a positive sign.
Jul 1, 2021 6:13 PM
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Lyserg becomes a new ally of Yoh and the gang since they all want to defeat Hao that was revealed to be the founder and the greatest enemy of the Asakura family huh
Jul 1, 2021 7:05 PM
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Lyserg seems really cool. Seems like he had a nice childhood somewhat though his father pushes him to give heights to his power. Though both of his parents were killed by Hao just because they will not join him. What the heck?! Sheesh what a jerk. Lyserg had to be beaten by Yoh to realize something, and believes there is a connection to Yoh and Hao. Which ironically he is not wrong on that... Looks like we are going to get some secrets of Hao and the Asakura Family.
Jul 1, 2021 7:15 PM
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Lyserg the Avenger, another to add to the ally numbers of Yoh and Co.

Horohoro, Tao and Ryu are indeed suspicious when it comes to new people, and Lyserg is one of the many that will come their way. But it turns out that Lyserg's reason to have allies...is the same as the rest: to defeat Hao and his Over Soul.

Even with all that pent-up revenge, it's not enough to defeat Yoh, Amidamaru, and the power of friendship lols. It'll take more to understand what's going on progressively, and indeed the seeds of hatred have been founded: the great need to defeat the Asakura founder Hao.

New ED and it's just as good as the rest.
Jul 1, 2021 7:42 PM
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I shouldn't have laughed but 6yo Hao going around, killing parents while wearing his favorite stars blanket cape was too much xD
Jul 1, 2021 8:56 PM

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Just as I thought. As we hit the point where the 2001 anime started to deviate, the pacing starts to get better. There are a couple of moments in this episode I wish they hadn't left out, but they're all small stuff. Interesting that Jeanne is the focus of the new ED. I figured it'd be a little while before her introduction, but now I'm not sure.
Jul 1, 2021 9:38 PM

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Hao really out here murdering parents as a child. We got introduced to Lyserg the Avenger, his wire power is pretty cool, that fucking Big Ben had me shook. Yoh is even more cool this episode, he's like chill and at the same time he has no chill lmao.

That ending scene with Anna is really interesting, the secrets of the Asakura family and their mission. We also got a new ED, it's really good. I am assuming this gonna be like Hunter X Hunter where the OP doesn't change lmao, maybe the visuals will down the line.
Jul 1, 2021 9:39 PM
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Lyserg is definitely an interesting character. The pacing feels a lot smoother compared to the early stages of this series and it's nice seeing

I wonder how well he'll fit in with the group.

Also, new ending wasn't bad. I do prefer the first one though
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Jul 1, 2021 10:26 PM
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Even with all that pent-up revenge, it's not enough to defeat Yoh, Amidamaru, and the power of friendship lols.


I know you are saying this as a joke, but for the sake of people watching the series for the first time :

"Pent up revenge" is the reason why Lyserg lost. It didn't lose to "power of friendship" he lost because he lost his cool when Yoh chose to ignore him, and then he saw Hao in Yoh.

Yoh at this point in time is like half a Ren in terms of power
Jul 2, 2021 5:56 AM

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They are setting up the fight between Hao and Yoh nicely (the opening). I still get the old feeling from watching this and it's good. Can't wait to see the secret next episode.
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones!

Jul 2, 2021 3:27 PM
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The pace got better, but the fight stayed the usual slideshow.

Morover we have two new problems:
-nobody realizes that two look alike people as Yoh and Hao may be related
-Yoh acts like his freinds weren't the ones starting the fight
Jul 2, 2021 6:41 PM

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new character !!! he's pretty AND smart. 2 in 1, i love him
Jul 3, 2021 3:27 AM
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new character being introduced is already a good thing but it looks like he really is one of the people who have something to do with Hao has a good Plot that's Lyserg It's very strong, I liked the fights, which were something interesting for this show.
Jul 3, 2021 7:03 AM
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nkozic_7 said:
Another awesome episode πŸ˜„ But rating still goes down.. What's wrong with peoples


just try to re-watch even this episode of 2001 adaptation and you undestand. For example in this episode Yoh acting like Lyserg start the fight, same as 2001 adaptation, but in 2001 adaptation lyserg realy start this fight. On this adaptaion Yoh firends did this. This is make all his words no sense. And something like this u can find on every episode +skip many details+mad pace comparing even with manga. Sry for my bad english.
Jul 3, 2021 7:12 AM
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265 said:
nkozic_7 said:
Another awesome episode πŸ˜„ But rating still goes down.. What's wrong with peoples


just try to re-watch even this episode of 2001 adaptation and you undestand. For example in this episode Yoh acting like Lyserg start the fight, same as 2001 adaptation, but in 2001 adaptation lyserg realy start this fight. On this adaptaion Yoh firends did this. This is make all his words no sense. And something like this u can find on every episode +skip many details+mad pace comparing even with manga. Sry for my bad english.

I know everything from old Shaman King, no need for rewatch. Yeah you're right, Horohoro started this fight but this is real situation. Imagine something like this happen to you. Even if your friend started the fight you'll be angry on that guy who beat him.
Jul 3, 2021 7:43 AM
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nkozic_7 said:
265 said:


just try to re-watch even this episode of 2001 adaptation and you undestand. For example in this episode Yoh acting like Lyserg start the fight, same as 2001 adaptation, but in 2001 adaptation lyserg realy start this fight. On this adaptaion Yoh firends did this. This is make all his words no sense. And something like this u can find on every episode +skip many details+mad pace comparing even with manga. Sry for my bad english.



I know everything from old Shaman King, no need for rewatch. Yeah you're right, Horohoro started this fight but this is real situation. Imagine something like this happen to you. Even if your friend started the fight you'll be angry on that guy who beat him.


I think many people comparing this adaption with old adaptation even not with manga. And old adaptation has really good direction on this start episodes. More logic and more disclosure of characters. So i think that's why rating so low now. For me in this episode yoh behaved very strange and unnatural. unfortunately in the manga it was the same. Possibly many people are thinking like me.
Jul 3, 2021 7:46 AM
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265 said:
nkozic_7 said:



I know everything from old Shaman King, no need for rewatch. Yeah you're right, Horohoro started this fight but this is real situation. Imagine something like this happen to you. Even if your friend started the fight you'll be angry on that guy who beat him.


I think many people comparing this adaption with old adaptation even not with manga. And old adaptation has really good direction on this start episodes. More logic and more disclosure of characters. So i think that's why rating so low now. For me in this episode yoh behaved very strange and unnatural. unfortunately in the manga it was the same. Possibly many people are thinking like me.

Probably, its weird to me because I know what's coming and how it ends. Believe me this only gets better with time
Jul 3, 2021 11:50 AM

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This Lyserg kid was acting too cocky, good thing Yoh took him down a notch before letting him join the group.
Jul 3, 2021 12:03 PM

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Well. Spoke too soon about not seeing Best girl Anna for some time. Great to see her again.

History of Asakura family, looking forward to it!

New ED sounds nice!
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Jul 3, 2021 4:23 PM

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Jesus Christ Ren's voice is unbearable.
Jul 3, 2021 9:37 PM

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Damn can’t wait to see what’s sealed in the hao temple.
Jul 4, 2021 1:01 AM

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265 said:
nkozic_7 said:
Another awesome episode πŸ˜„ But rating still goes down.. What's wrong with peoples


just try to re-watch even this episode of 2001 adaptation and you undestand. For example in this episode Yoh acting like Lyserg start the fight, same as 2001 adaptation, but in 2001 adaptation lyserg realy start this fight. On this adaptaion Yoh firends did this. This is make all his words no sense. And something like this u can find on every episode +skip many details+mad pace comparing even with manga. Sry for my bad english.

Yeah, in the old anime it was Lyserg who started the fight. Here, Horo was like "huh, you wanna fight, you wanna fight?!" so Lyserg had to fight with them and Yoh is acting like it was him who attacked them first. How about telling your friends to not get angry and attack random people, just because they ask if they can join your group? Ugh.
Jul 4, 2021 3:17 AM
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265 said:

I think many people comparing this adaption with old adaptation even not with manga. And old adaptation has really good direction on this start episodes. More logic and more disclosure of characters. So i think that's why rating so low now. For me in this episode yoh behaved very strange and unnatural. unfortunately in the manga it was the same. Possibly many people are thinking like me.

Been 2 years since I've finished the manga, so the logic in the manga was seriously the same as in this episode? Wow, the OG adaptation really did a lot of things better than the manga.

Also, Lyserg got a new voice, didn't he? It's really ugly, tho.
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Jul 4, 2021 4:57 AM

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apokaliz500 said:
265 said:

I think many people comparing this adaption with old adaptation even not with manga. And old adaptation has really good direction on this start episodes. More logic and more disclosure of characters. So i think that's why rating so low now. For me in this episode yoh behaved very strange and unnatural. unfortunately in the manga it was the same. Possibly many people are thinking like me.

Been 2 years since I've finished the manga, so the logic in the manga was seriously the same as in this episode? Wow, the OG adaptation really did a lot of things better than the manga.

Also, Lyserg got a new voice, didn't he? It's really ugly, tho.

No, it's the same VA as 20 years ago. I agree tho, she sounds off. Honestly, most of the female VAs in the show sound weird (I loved Park's performance in the old anime, in this adaptation I just want Ren to shut up, he sounds so obnoxious). I didn't even think that I would want to hear different VAs, I was so happy when they announced that so many from the original cast are going to come back, I like and respect all of them... and it pains me to say this, but most of them just don't sound that good after those 20 years...
Jul 4, 2021 11:47 AM

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Lyserg, morphin, Yohs weed shirt in previous episodes... the auhor has to be a psychonaut
Jul 5, 2021 12:08 PM

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Bro! I know yoh is simple minded but how come no one else realised he and hao look similar.It was kinda weird but i'm glad someone has finally noticed it.
Waiting for the stone ocean 3 anime
Jul 6, 2021 2:36 AM
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Oh no not Lyserg, I hate him so much xD worst character of Shaman King.
The new ending theme is pretty good!
Jul 7, 2021 11:31 PM
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Omg I'm already in love again like when I was 11 years old and first watching Shaman King in TV ❀️
I really love this show! And my King Hao, he's πŸ”₯
Jul 13, 2021 8:07 AM
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Finally someone else realize Yoh and Hao looks similar...
Lmao

Good Introduction for a New Character.
Jul 28, 2021 2:23 PM

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Finally someone catches on to Yoh looking like Hao.

"Morphine" is Lyserg's Guardian Ghost? Another ally for the gang led by a stoner...

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Oct 16, 2021 6:25 AM

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Lyserg do be angry. Hao is hated by everyone it seems xD
Feb 16, 2023 3:36 PM
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I mean, when your spirit is called Morphine, there is nothing to e afraid of.
May 7, 2023 6:08 AM

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While the overall pace in this episode was fine, Lyserg past story was rushed, and Yoh vs Lyserg was kind of undefiled. I didn't understood quite exactly what was Yoh's last move there.
There's clearly overall low budget production here, the animation is awful. Somehow it didn't ruined much this episode, but I can see clearly how it will ruin more action packed ones.

The ending wasn't good as previous one to my taste, but that character seems interesting enough to me. 
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Aaah, I'd remember Lyserg first introduction episode in the old version one. Ryu shocked after knowing Lyserg's a boy and asked him to enter the other room to check if he's a real boy.... Look's like Ryu still love him even knowing he's a guy.... Ryu is such a bisexual....

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