86--EIGHTY-SIX (light novel)
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| So the first season of 86 is over... Not gonna lie, the premise was interesting but I just couldn't get with it mostly cause I didn't get invested in the characters. There were some times here and there that I enjoyed but it wasn't a show that I was particularly excited to watch every week. I'm still not sure if I'll come back for the second season. |
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Eanki said: Those are big words to you? I just listed the common ground between 86, The Hunger Games, Divergent, The Maze Runner, you know, drawing a comparisons checklist between its peers in its genre/style. I mean yeah you listed common themes and settings. Your critique is also surface level too dude lol. Let's not pretend you or anyone here is an actual literary critic nor that anime in general it's mostly content aimed at YA audience. I think it would be hard to be a fan of anime/manga and not enjoy YA media. Honestly it was a pretty good one at that though main reason I am watching something like this and not Hunger Games even if the base appeal is the same. Japan knows how to do this stuff well. To get to my final thoughts overall it was a pretty good mecha war drama sad how rare those are today. I think what I do appreciate how even small scenes I think do a good job at getting you to care for some of the characters more so than the dramatic stuff. I really do like the directing and how it's cut together. I still don 't know about the world itself lots of mystery hopefully we see more world building next season. Still a few things I kinda want cleared up. |
BilboBaggins365Jun 19, 2021 9:02 PM
| Story wasn't anything special IMO. A dystopian drama that's main cast is a bunch of kids. I've seen it all before. What was good though was the directing and the soundtrack, absolutely brilliant. 7/10 overall. |
| Was being a rather standard season finale until that last sequence with Shinei and his brother. Not gonna lie, that addition was actually pretty damn good. "Emotional" even... if I cared enough about their family drama. That is. Quite average first part overall. Gave this anime a chance only because of Sawano's OST and that's it. Premise was interesting but its approach from a political-social perspective was rather superficial and the more sci-fi the plot became, the less said perspective was explored. Direction during some episodes was quite stellar tho. Probably the only aspect I found remarkable enough alongside the OST. And regarding cast, I honestly couldn't care less about this bunch of characters. Most of them were rather shallow and even unbearable in some cases. Lena and Shinei's characters could be counted as exceptions but if I'm being honest, if they were to die tomorrow, I wouldn't bat an eye. 5/10 - Anyways, hoping for things to get more engaging in the second cour/season. |
| Very engaging opening sequence to wrap back to what we saw last episode. I love seeing the 86 cast interact and just having the most fun they can on their path to death, its very heartwarming to watch them see the best in things (like the school grounds). I also love how Shin "nobely" leaves his friends behind and fights the Legion so they can live a bit longer and how they refuse this and help him. I also love how they showed Lena's visit to the grounds and how the 86 knew that she would come. Let's go Lena!! Can't wait for the second cour!! |
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| the cliffhanger did it best... sadly we will wait another season 1 year or more... the ending feels ok the plot isn't very good but its serve the purpose... i wanna thank you for essay kun |
| this was okay..not as good as i thought when i first heard about it ,so much of the political world structure i thought would be explored hardly happened like outside of Lena's uncle we never saw any officials talking about anything but that's more on the issue of this whole season just being one vol when normally these LNs are too fast paced this one seemed so much focused was on a story that you really didn't need to drag it out the whole first cour. directing and music and overall production was a extreme hard carry for a not very well written story some of the best parts were anime originals that improved what i assume wasn't in the books lol as for that ending it was well either they all die and keep the trend going or by some crazy asspull luck they make it out and uh if you somehow have kept your eyes shut while commenting you wouldn't had seen the LN covers that are either the biggest jaibaits are just spoilers 6/10 will see the 2nd part and see if it fixes some of the problems i had with all the worldbuilding and characters or it just gets worse |
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BilboBaggins365 said: To get to my final thoughts overall it was a pretty good mecha war drama sad how rare those are today. As opposed to a good war drama, I guess. Gods, yeah, good war dramas are pretty rare. I should have kept my HBO Go subscription. There was that Israeli war drama about the Yom Kippur war iirc. |
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| most overrated anime this season. so trash af |
| God, I love reading all of the comments by hyper-critical, self proclaimed experts after a series ends! I don't get watching anime if you hate 95% of what you watch... 9/10 for me. Wasn't sure how I felt about it initially, but, man, it ended up being really good. |
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| Finally it's over... and yeah it's alright I guess. Actually no if I'm being honest, I found it very boring throughout. It's not bad, like I can't really criticize it, but I just found it kind of lame. I just kept watching because I wanted to give it a chance to help make me like it eventually, maybe. But really I was wanting to drop it by the 3rd episode or so. Man on paper this should've been a home run of an anime. But it didn't end up being my cup of tea at all.... which is a shame. If you are one of those who are intrigued by 86, as it seems that most of the viewers are, then that's great. You got to enjoy something that I couldn't. I wish I could have gotten as invested as the rest of you, but I just didn't care at all for the characters. Maybe the plot is a little interesting, but I really can't say much else. I was slightly captivated by this last episode, however, and still intend to watch the second cour. But as for this one, I really didn't dig it that much. 3/10 |
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youdeli2 said: God, I love reading all of the comments by hyper-critical, self proclaimed experts after a series ends! I don't get watching anime if you hate 95% of what you watch... 9/10 for me. Wasn't sure how I felt about it initially, but, man, it ended up being really good. There's a lot of reasons to bear deep hatred towards an anime, such as taste difference, failed expectation (this one most unlikely), their fav anime being overshadowed, mainstream hate, trolls etc. I was that disgusting kid once, so I know. I prefer liking what I like and discuss it with people who also like it. Too bad LN section doesn't have much discussion on the forum. |
| Current favourite ships: - Chika x Satowa (Kono Oto Tomare) - Shin x Lena (86) - Vanitas x Jeanne (Vanitas no Carte) |
mimisannn333 said: youdeli2 said: God, I love reading all of the comments by hyper-critical, self proclaimed experts after a series ends! I don't get watching anime if you hate 95% of what you watch... 9/10 for me. Wasn't sure how I felt about it initially, but, man, it ended up being really good. There's a lot of reasons to bear deep hatred towards an anime, such as taste difference, failed expectation (this one most unlikely), their fav anime being overshadowed, mainstream hate, trolls etc. I was that disgusting kid once, so I know. I prefer liking what I like and discuss it with people who also like it. Too bad LN section doesn't have much discussion on the forum. Fair enough- Although, I guess I don't understand the point of going into the forums to discuss something you didn't like either. A review is one thing, but, I guess making posts repeatedly throughout the length of the show bashing on it, doesn't make much sense to me if it wasn't enjoyable for you in the first place. Maybe I'm just different, but, if I found something bad, I would leave it in the past, and not give it much of a second thought. I guess at the end of the day- different strokes for different folks, but, I couldn't imagine sitting down and watching through an entire series of something I hated THAT MUCH. |
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| What an absolutely amazing show. One of the best I have seen in recent times.... |
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| So many things happened in this episode!!! I loved every bit of it!! I really want to read the LN now, but I'll wait patiently till part 2 comes out!!! Edit : Corrected grammatical errors |
Joel77Apr 22, 2023 7:12 AM
| Oh... forgot this was 11 episode season. So they decided to end it with a cliffhanger? BOOO considering how , such tease is a d**k move, I'd say. Still waiting for an actually threatening Legion. So far their strength seems to be in numbers only! |
| So this is it for the first cour. They left us with Shin's life on the line while teasing us with the next vengeful Legion on the loose. Hope the second cour takes off soon. |
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| Damn that was one hell of a cliff hanger on the 86 members part, guess I'll pick the novel up to see who u is still alive |
| and it ended. ahh what a nice ride this was, love how they showed more of the last 5 than the novel did. really nice ending, wonder what lena named the cat? and oh !! guess we'll see the "princess" that the robot who attacked shin mentioned next season? cant wait for that. im a bit surprised that they didnt adapt the epilogue tho really enjoyed this show, adapted the novel really nicely. seriously couldnt ask for a better way to do it. looking forward to the next season |
| I thought they were gonna leave us on that cliffhanger last ep and follow Lena around, but nah this one is way worse? Are the 4 of them really all dead and Shin is now the newest member of the legion? Idk team... the upcoming novel covers make me pretty fuckin skeptical of that. Maybe the 4 are dead which would be pretty sad, but if the ending really is as it implies then they gonna be sowing his head back on somehow. |
Blue_Pie_Ninja said: The show is alright I guess. Definitely not a masterpiece. The animation is competent, but the CGI could definitely use more work and is more egregious due to the fact all the CGI creatures have legs which should show weight while they move, which they don't. The soundtrack was good though, can't fault the OST but the other sound design was pretty cookie-cutter and generic. The story works on the most simplest level, and any themes it tries to convey are also surface level at best. I wish we got to learn more about the people of the Republic, or more info about the Legion or the cultures of the 86. Instead all we got was a group of teenagers who fought robots. The characters were ok as well. Some of them had interesting conflicts but the rest didn't really seem to have too much of a purpose. I've already forgotten their names but the shorter blonde haired guy was the most interesting. Overall, 7/10. Not bad, but there are certainly much better anime this season. Then what do you think is a better anime this season? Please enlighten me. |
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| I am speechless, Eight Six was phenomenal from beginning to end. It was so good that I gave in and started reading the light novel albeit I am slow as fuck, only in the 2nd volume, no regrets though. And I can definitely say that this is one of the best if not the best light novel adaptation in existence. Can't fucking wait for the second cour. Lena visiting the spearhead squadron's base was so nice and that ending scene was beautifully cruel. I wonder what they have in store for us for the special episode next week, I kind of want to see the volume 1 epilogue. Never has a show made me so immersed in it and made me feel all kinds of emotions for every single episode, 10/10. |
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mimisannn333 said: youdeli2 said: God, I love reading all of the comments by hyper-critical, self proclaimed experts after a series ends! I don't get watching anime if you hate 95% of what you watch... 9/10 for me. Wasn't sure how I felt about it initially, but, man, it ended up being really good. There's a lot of reasons to bear deep hatred towards an anime, such as taste difference, failed expectation (this one most unlikely), their fav anime being overshadowed, mainstream hate, trolls etc. I was that disgusting kid once, so I know. I prefer liking what I like and discuss it with people who also like it. Too bad LN section doesn't have much discussion on the forum. 86 isn't a perfect series but people want to be taken like seriously with their elite criticism with some of the most surface level critiques ever. If you want to make vague comments great I do it all the time but I am no literary critic that some people online like to pretend to be. |
Hmmm, I still need to catch up to Vivy so can’t say anything about that one. Odd Taxi isn’t really my style and probably not gonna watch it. But if megalobox is the same as the previous season then that’s a cap. |
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Reinaria said: Xopgoblin45 said: ah,you are that pudding guy ,right? nice to meet you again after weeks.glad that you sticked around till last episode.If you want to test whether a person has critical thinking and the ability to build simple chains of logic, then show him this anime. If he says he liked it, congratulations, you already know the answer. If my words seem rude or provocative to you, just try taking one sip of beer every time you see some plot inconsistency or hole in this show. By the middle of the eighth mug, you'll probably know what I mean. This anime has great graphics, music and everything else that isn't about the plot. But as soon as you start thinking about the plot, all that beautiful visuals fall apart. The last episode should have brought a tear to my eye, but all it did was make me laugh. A silly reference to World War I in the form of a book that shouldn't be in this world. The frontier of the empire is three days' leisurely drive away. The inadequate behavior of the Legion, which can't destroy the squad of five-man infiltrators it has already discovered. Bringing super long-range artillery into close proximity. If you think about it seriously, don't you think people could have lost to this Skynet on Chinese firmware only if they had fought him with water balloons and water cannons. And my favorite.The rifles and pistols they were given, even though the only targets they can use them against are the Albas.The rifles and pistols they were given, even though the only targets they can use them against are the Albians. Those robots that were let in for one episode don't count, as this was obviously done to make the death of the rest of the squad look less weird and silly. 5/10 Out of sheer respect for the opening and animation of the juggernauts. Hello to you, too. Yes, I stayed to watch the show to be sure of my point of view. Without looking back at the various reservations in future episodes. And I'm glad that all the explanations of the novella readers from the pudding discussion were not shown in any way in the first season of the anime, thus turning it into a complete farce. This allows my point of view to remain as true even after seven new episodes. |
narium said: Xopgoblin45 said: And my favorite.The rifles and pistols they were given, even though the only targets they can use them against are the Albas.The rifles and pistols they were given, even though the only targets they can use them against are the Albians. Those robots that were let in for one episode don't count, as this was obviously done to make the death of the rest of the squad look less weird and silly. They're not issued guns. Those are scavenged from ruins. In fact they're not supposed to have them at all but their Alba handlers have a DGAF attitude to the whole war and don't care as long as the 86 are doing their "job" (dying to the Legion). Granted it's not as explicitly spelled out in the anime but the LN makes it pretty clear that the guns are contraband. If someone would give me five dollars every time I hear from defenders of this anime that it was different in the novella and everything was explained there. I'd be able to buy all the volumes that came out and not have to listen to this nonsense anymore. The excuse that things were different in the novella's plot is one of the worst possible. |
| Great, they had to end this on an cliffhanger HUH. Gotta wait just to see that Shin really died or not in my opinion he is not dead. Really good 1st cour or 1st season idk. Best directed anime this season and a great adaptation overall. 8/10 |
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UTMAN said: Xopgoblin45 said: If someone would give me five dollars every time I hear from defenders of this anime that it was different in the novella and everything was explained there. I'd be able to buy all the volumes that came out and not have to listen to this nonsense anymore. The excuse that things were different in the novella's plot is one of the worst possible. "Those robots that were let in for one episode don't count," I mean those robots were in ep 1: https://imgur.com/vAp7dh0 And in ep 6 aswell: https://imgur.com/RQn850S https://imgur.com/4UNJTfH If you can't even notice this how should we take anything you say seriously? lol How many times is this now that a negative poster has just clearly demonstrated they weren't paying any attention to the show at all !? What is even the point in debating with these people, it's like they got their comprehension tests back with an F grade and blamed the test. |
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