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Apr 20, 2021 6:08 PM
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asking to ln, manga readers, anyone who's been told by their friends. is the mc really a realist? or is he just not stupid. does he really see and do things in a realistic way or does he just not do things irrationally?

or maybe just How is he a realist? and how much? and to manga readers would you recommend the manga or nah
Apr 20, 2021 6:17 PM
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He's just not stupid.

Or in other words, he has basic understanding of economics and politics

Take this with a grain of salt
Since I read volume 1 a long ass time ago


Apr 20, 2021 6:53 PM
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DeN11 said:
He's just not stupid.

Or in other words, he has basic understanding of economics and politics

Take this with a grain of salt
Since I read volume 1 a long ass time ago
ohh okay thats good thank u !
Apr 22, 2021 2:38 AM
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To be honest I dont even know what is a “realist” even mean lmao
Apr 22, 2021 3:34 AM
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To be honest I dont even know what is a “realist” even mean lmao
LMAO honestly same i have a rough idea on what it is but not rly sure so i googled it and it means "a person who accepts a situation as it is and is prepared to deal with it accordingly."
Apr 23, 2021 3:19 PM
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I haven't read the LN or the manga. But i assume he is a rational guy who somehow know all the necessary things to rebuild the kingdom.
And since he have to rebuild the kingdom. The kingdom itself must be a failure in economy and is probably ruled by generic nobles who only want money and steal it from the people. Now this guy straight them up by using his brain unlike them and use his name as a hero to do it.


That's as far as i can think.
So he probably isn't a realistic person or more accurately a normal person. Because a normal person wouldn't know how to handle real life politics economy.
So in the end he may be like the other anime where 10 geniuses got reincarnated and they quickly build a nuke and kinda dominated the city.
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Apr 23, 2021 8:41 PM
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The MC is pragmatic and he utilizes economic rationale and various political strategies to reform his kingdom and develop better relationships with neighboring ones. Prior to being transported to his current world, his background consists of being a university student studying politics.

Much of his ideologies are based on the teachings of Sun Tzu and Machiavelli, whom he references quite often.

For example, his kingdom underwent a food crisis, so his solution was to devise ways and methods to transport exotic and edible food to the populace. One of the ways he did this was to hire a "food connoisseur" to consult him on the matter.

He also uses his otherworldly knowledge, such as influencing people with media, to fulfill his endeavors. Now the biggest question is why the prior king didn't do all this? Well, the concept of using media or creating food items such as Udon doesn't quite exist in a medieval-based fantasy kingdom. There is also no such thing as compulsory education (A significant portion of the population in the Elfrieden kingdom is illiterate), so the MC is one of the most educated person in the kingdom.

ConceptualheroApr 23, 2021 10:21 PM
I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb.
Apr 23, 2021 10:09 PM
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Kiyotaka696 said:
I haven't read the LN or the manga. But i assume he is a rational guy who somehow know all the necessary things to rebuild the kingdom.
And since he have to rebuild the kingdom. The kingdom itself must be a failure in economy and is probably ruled by generic nobles who only want money and steal it from the people. Now this guy straight them up by using his brain unlike them and use his name as a hero to do it.


That's as far as i can think.
So he probably isn't a realistic person or more accurately a normal person. Because a normal person wouldn't know how to handle real life politics economy.
So in the end he may be like the other anime where 10 geniuses got reincarnated and they quickly build a nuke and kinda dominated the city.


SPOILER WARNING ON THE CAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC CRISIS!


The economic crisis was actually caused by most of the farmers deciding to grow cotton instead of food at the same time because there was an increase in textile demand in the countries north of them. But since so many people grew it at once, the price immediately plummeted, which meant most of the farmers now had a large amount of a low value non-edible crop, and very few had grown something people could actually eat. That made the price of domestically grown food go way up, which meant the farmers who grew cotton couldn't afford to buy it, or import food from other countries, hence the food/economic crisis. There were some money grubbing nobles as well, but they didn't cause the problem, they just made it slightly worse.
StormyDragonApr 23, 2021 10:13 PM
Apr 24, 2021 3:19 AM
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StormyDragon said:
Kiyotaka696 said:
I haven't read the LN or the manga. But i assume he is a rational guy who somehow know all the necessary things to rebuild the kingdom.
And since he have to rebuild the kingdom. The kingdom itself must be a failure in economy and is probably ruled by generic nobles who only want money and steal it from the people. Now this guy straight them up by using his brain unlike them and use his name as a hero to do it.


That's as far as i can think.
So he probably isn't a realistic person or more accurately a normal person. Because a normal person wouldn't know how to handle real life politics economy.
So in the end he may be like the other anime where 10 geniuses got reincarnated and they quickly build a nuke and kinda dominated the city.


SPOILER WARNING ON THE CAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC CRISIS!


The economic crisis was actually caused by most of the farmers deciding to grow cotton instead of food at the same time because there was an increase in textile demand in the countries north of them. But since so many people grew it at once, the price immediately plummeted, which meant most of the farmers now had a large amount of a low value non-edible crop, and very few had grown something people could actually eat. That made the price of domestically grown food go way up, which meant the farmers who grew cotton couldn't afford to buy it, or import food from other countries, hence the food/economic crisis. There were some money grubbing nobles as well, but they didn't cause the problem, they just made it slightly worse.

i will not read that because its spoiler, but i assume i was wrong right?
U-Y-P-W-O-C-U-T-I-K-A-T-I-P-M-I-N-I-I-D-I-H-I-W-T-S-T-I-W-S-T-O-M-P-T-I-L-U-C-H-N-I-D-T-I-I-Y-I-M-N-O-W-S-T-S-W-N-I-B-W
Apr 24, 2021 5:36 PM
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Kiyotaka696 said:

i will not read that because its spoiler, but i assume i was wrong right?


Well, there were a few money grubbing nobles trying to profit off the situation, but they didn't cause it and were only a small contributing factor to the larger problem.

For what it's worth, you are correct about the MC not being a strictly 'normal' person, he's an economics student who was planning to go into politics once he finished school, and seems to know a lot about history, and medieval/renaissance political theory. (That's not really a spoiler since it becomes apparent very quickly.) Those are really the only topics he has in depth knowledge on, so he's not inexplicably good at everything.
Apr 24, 2021 5:51 PM

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StormyDragon said:
Kiyotaka696 said:

i will not read that because its spoiler, but i assume i was wrong right?


Well, there were a few money grubbing nobles trying to profit off the situation, but they didn't cause it and were only a small contributing factor to the larger problem.

For what it's worth, you are correct about the MC not being a strictly 'normal' person, he's an economics student who was planning to go into politics once he finished school, and seems to know a lot about history, and medieval/renaissance political theory. (That's not really a spoiler since it becomes apparent very quickly.) Those are really the only topics he has in depth knowledge on, so he's not inexplicably good at everything.

So basically an excellent student. He isn't average. But he definitely exist in our world. So that technically make him realistic, but a genius like sora (not shiro) will also be realistic according to that logic. So i would say in the end he isn't as realistic as the author want him to be. (Since the title itself have a realistic in its name ). But again what the author wanted and what the title of the anime is doesn't matter when watching an anime. I will just hope his entire personality isn't only that


Edit : i just realised the title itself dont say "realistic" but "realist"
That's completely different word. So forget everything i said lol what stupid i am
DayyanoEYEApr 24, 2021 5:57 PM
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Apr 24, 2021 11:37 PM
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StormyDragon said:
Kiyotaka696 said:

i will not read that because its spoiler, but i assume i was wrong right?


Well, there were a few money grubbing nobles trying to profit off the situation, but they didn't cause it and were only a small contributing factor to the larger problem.

For what it's worth, you are correct about the MC not being a strictly 'normal' person, he's an economics student who was planning to go into politics once he finished school, and seems to know a lot about history, and medieval/renaissance political theory. (That's not really a spoiler since it becomes apparent very quickly.) Those are really the only topics he has in depth knowledge on, so he's not inexplicably good at everything.



To add to this, he mostly consults with his advisors, who he quickly assembles soon after taking the throne. The MC harbors modern knowledge of basic political, sociological, and economical theories, but he also depends on a select group of talented individuals for advice to facilitate his theoretical implementations into society.

In summary, he is a smart individual who depends on people with more technical expertise. This is what politicians should ideally do, which in a sense makes him a realist.
ConceptualheroApr 24, 2021 11:41 PM
I like dub more than sub because I am not a weeb.
Jun 4, 2021 11:34 PM

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No. He pushes himself so much. He is very concerned about economic standing. He is highly concerned with how the people view his rule. He keeps saying he's a temporary King even after so long. He does seem to quickly adapt to the situation but very minor miscalculations give him anxiety issues. He puts himself in unnecessary danger to show he's not afraid when he is. He puts up an elite force below the bare minimum during a siege. He has a do or die tactics in war which is unrealistic.
Jun 5, 2021 12:54 AM
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The word is "Realist" not "Realistic".
He recognizes he isn't a good fighter, but he has knowledge about economics, law, and medieval power politics (Machiavelli).
He knows how to build decent roads.

He doesn't try to do things himself (except for paperwork), but enlists help to solve the problems he sees.

He is a Realist - he knows his strengths and weaknesses and enlists the aid of others to help.

He is a bit unrealistic - few people of his age would have such detailed and broad knowledge.
Jun 5, 2021 7:45 AM
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A better description might be "pragmatist". He knows his own limits, he knows that things happen for reasons, and he acts within his means.

If I were to compare him to someone, it would probably be a no-humor version of Senku from Dr. Stone. It's that kind of pragmatism.
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thereIwasnt said:
A better description might be "pragmatist". He knows his own limits, he knows that things happen for reasons, and he acts within his means.

If I were to compare him to someone, it would probably be a no-humor version of Senku from Dr. Stone. It's that kind of pragmatism.


I think I'd agree with this. I think the author meant realist in the sense of Classical Realism, and I guess MC's foreign policy to some extent is in that vein, but "pragmatist" feels like a better description for the story as a whole, since foreign relations are only part of the picture.

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The title is almost a sentence so it's not a lie.
Jun 9, 2021 9:53 PM

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Honestly, after reading up until Volume 8, not that hot. If you go in expecting real kingdom building with lots of thought put in, you're gona be disappointed. If you go in expecting trashy harem you might be pleasantly surprised.
Jul 5, 2021 4:14 AM

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Honestly, after reading up until Volume 8, not that hot. If you go in expecting real kingdom building with lots of thought put in, you're gona be disappointed. If you go in expecting trashy harem you might be pleasantly surprised.
Ow hell noooo -_- I came here for some strategy-game vibes, not for waifus....
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Sigmar-Unberogen said:
Asphodelus said:
Honestly, after reading up until Volume 8, not that hot. If you go in expecting real kingdom building with lots of thought put in, you're gona be disappointed. If you go in expecting trashy harem you might be pleasantly surprised.
Ow hell noooo -_- I came here for some strategy-game vibes, not for waifus....


Sigh this is why I hate recent Isekai anime, instead of making something good they make garbage (and they think some cute waifus can cover the rotten smell)
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asking to ln, manga readers, anyone who's been told by their friends. is the mc really a realist? or is he just not stupid. does he really see and do things in a realistic way or does he just not do things irrationally?

or maybe just How is he a realist? and how much? and to manga readers would you recommend the manga or nah


Oh boi he is extremely realist person in LN.

Military, politics, technology, biology, health care, city building planning, food and entertainment.

Also media propaganda ext ext ext.

You will love read the LN
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Ram said:
FTFY
is mc really a "racist" ?


The word is "Realist" - a person who accepts a situation as it is and is prepared to deal with it accordingly.
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Asphodelus said:
Honestly, after reading up until Volume 8, not that hot. If you go in expecting real kingdom building with lots of thought put in, you're gona be disappointed. If you go in expecting trashy harem you might be pleasantly surprised.

The LN series gets repetitive after volume 5 or so.
The first few books are really good, showing the MC solving things in nontraditional ways.
But once the kingdom is saved, the series starts filling in with harem and traditional isekai fare.
Expect Season 1 and maybe 2 to be good, and it goes downhill after that.
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It's just Japanese writer tryhard with English words.
Prease understandu
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I read the novel and disagreed after vol 5 focused more on harems and isekai in general, it seemed vague, Souma tried to build health facilities, schools, mass media, alliances with neighboring countries, held interfaith festivals etc with talented people gathered all over country. for the harem he does what needs to be done.
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I'd say that the main themes of the story lie more in seeing how the MC resolves larger, more complex and also morally vague situations from a position where he holds the national power and heavy responsibility. The "realism" then means that the MC finds the best compromises to these complex issues and is willing to use morally questionable means instead of spouting some idealistic bullshit and magically ending up with a solution that suits everyone.

The finer details of kingdom building are generally sidelined with a sort of "yea he knows what he's doing and works hard" sort of attitude. He isn't trying to progress on some Civ tech tree all the time and the general office work is thought of as being of little interest to the audience. There are some more special cases that get dealt with in the story, but those are mostly resolved with plain common sense and some extra knowledge stemming from the background of the MC. This also means that when he isn't resolving some grand dilemma (which are ofc not happening in every episode) he's mostly just "not stupid".
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It seems that a lot of people are confusing being a "realist" to being "realistic". They are not the same, people.

Ohems said:
The "realism" then means that the MC finds the best compromises to these complex issues and is willing to use morally questionable means instead of spouting some idealistic bullshit and magically ending up with a solution that suits everyone.

Well said. Seriously, for me, one of the most annoying type of characters, if not the most annoying are the "naive stubborn idealists". Though there may be some exceptions to that.
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He's a "realist" in the political science sense, so in the capitalist Machiavellian technocratic sense.

Although its a bit jarring watching him just assume so much about the culture, economy and political structures. The hubris of this guy is out of this world lol.
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He's a "realist" in the political science sense, so in the capitalist Machiavellian technocratic sense.

Although its a bit jarring watching him just assume so much about the culture, economy and political structures. The hubris of this guy is out of this world lol.


Just because the anime doesn't show it, you think he hasn't studied the world he was brought into?

If the anime had shown such, you would have been bored to tears, and complained about that. This anime treats it's audience as if they can understand what goes on behind the scenes unshown.
The introduction to episode 2 goes over things that he learned - which indicates that he studied the system and compared it to what he studied in class training to be a civil servant.
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It's based on what's "realist" to you

For me, it's 40/60%, I don't really understand what does "realist" mean in general so I think it's 40/60% for me
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bastek66 said:
It's just Japanese writer tryhard with English words.
Prease understandu

I mean you're right. The author is a Japanese person afterall so probably he's just use the wrong word

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