Kumo desu ga, Nani ka? Volume 11 Discussion

Sep 12, 2020 12:12 AM

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A book dedicated almost entirely to Julius. And Sophia too.

At the end we also get a timeline of notable events since Julius' birth right until the war. Interestingly in the editor's notes, he mentioned we may get more than 22(minus 1) volumes worth of Kumoko!

Dec 9, 2020 11:09 AM

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Is the 11th volume even out? I can't find it anywhere.

Dec 13, 2020 12:14 PM

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Dyantier said:
Is the 11th volume even out? I can't find it anywhere.

it's not, it'll come out in march 2021 if i'm not wrong

Feb 1, 2021 10:10 PM

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Vredeza said:

Dyantier said:
Is the 11th volume even out? I can't find it anywhere.

it's not, it'll come out in march 2021 if i'm not wrong

actually volume 11-14 are already out but they only available in japanese, volume 11's english version is set to be realesed on 23th of march

Feb 15, 2021 2:06 PM

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22(minus 1) volumes worth of Kumoko!

Interesting, I haven't yet read 11-14 as my Japanese isn't quite good enough. But judging from the chapter names and covers I assumed it was coming into the end game.

But perhaps I was judging it on the rapid pace of books 1-5, whereas the books have been anything but fast since book 5. I am actually a little concerned that 11 will not be a very good read given that its the lowest rated one of the series on amazon jp and focuses entirely on Julius.

I am not sure I can do 8 more books of this series if they are going to take turns focusing on weird side characters like how book 6 focused on Ronandt (World's strongest human mage, if you forgot I don't blame you) so much. His story was at least more interesting than the half book dedicated to Mr. Ogre going "RAMPAGE ANGER FOGGY BRAIN RAMPAGE", so we will see.

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Feb 28, 2021 9:28 AM

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i hope it will be good julius is one of my fav character so i've weirdly some big expectation for this book

Mar 8, 2021 10:40 PM

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jmstructor said:

psyk2642 said:
22(minus 1) volumes worth of Kumoko!

I didn't forget ronandt and parts of Kyouya story (while you were just impatient for him to meet kumoko already) was there to cement the divide between monsters and humans and Kyouya mental issues. Overall, i love the way the Ln is branching into other side characters. It just screams "Game of Thrones" so much and is accurate and excellent storytelling

Mar 23, 2021 2:14 PM

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Man this volume was Awesome.
Can't wait for the 12th

Mar 24, 2021 2:55 AM

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Boelleros are incredibly based, Julius seeing the appeal is even more based, so he likes tentacle play lmao. He shot up a lot in my favourie characters and is one of my top 3 now. great volume and really hyped for volume 12

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Mar 28, 2021 4:32 AM

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Damn, Okina, why you gotta make dead characters likable?
Julius is THE Fantasy Hero of Justisce trope, yet was written in a way that made me not think of him as just some idealistic idiot, but someone who's genuinely an upstanding person and simultaneously idealist but also quite the realist, he's completely aware of his faults but this is what he has chosen to do and want to see it through for as long as his life lasts. Also filled in a lot of the gaps, like it wasn't really necessary but gave quite a bit of insight and a fresh perspective on some things, and while most of it wasn't necessary for the greater plot, the Holy Sword is quite the big deal, who will it be used on? Ariel? White? Sariel? D?

Mar 28, 2021 10:47 AM

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Kinda of a annoying volume, I didn't like Julius before and don't like him now, but we got some new worldbuilding and information so it wasn't a entire volume of filler.

Mar 28, 2021 3:40 PM

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That was a nice read. I kinda like Julius. Sure he had a few slip-ups, but he actually learned from them. And he's not blind to his own faults or the darkness of his world. While he has faith in his companions without overestimating his of their abilities, he knows when he's outmatched. Also, he's actually noticed that a girl (Yaana) was crushing on him and gave some genuine thoughts about her feelings. In my book, that alone already gives him a passing grade.

On the other hand, Shun can't compute that he's got more than one girl crushing on him (including his own sister), he's clueless about pretty much everything (him wanting to fight for the elves despite knowing nothing about them is a perfect example), and he's convinced that since he's the hero and has nakama power, he can survive anything and defeat anyone, and he trusts everybody, like he's got no sense of danger.
So to make it short, I hate him.

By the way, I remembered that on the day Sophia attacked Shun & co., she was accompanied by two "ninjas", a guy and a girl. It's just a guess, but could it be that those two were the "Goody Two-Shoes" and the "Class Rep Girl" of this volume?

Also, I forgot to ask, but apparently, Ronant is now aware of what Buirimus had been up to in the Mystic Mountains and how he died. But is it specified how and when he learned about all this? I don't remember.

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Mar 28, 2021 7:06 PM

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DontCare69 said:
Kinda of a annoying volume, I didn't like Julius before and don't like him now, but we got some new worldbuilding and information so it wasn't a entire volume of filler.

to me vol11 was trash, i don't care about julius either, but damn even the sophia parts were crap.

Mar 30, 2021 8:16 PM

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I prepared myself for the worst, and it wasn't so bad. Julius managed to stay interesting throughout the book.

The Sophia chapters were a little weird. Although they were quite different, it felt like the author had some sort of scene in mind that we were supposed to deduce from her unreliable narration, but I couldn't quite figure it out. Probably would have benefited from a single chapter from either the puppet spider's or shiro's perspective at the end.

As long as you know the book is filler its a fine read. Like you could probably skip this book and not miss anything, like is the only important thing that happened is Leston has the hero sword?

I guess it revealed how wrath teleported into the elf village, more ronandt? and showed more depth to the sue/shun scene. Maybe provided more contrast to the parody of a hero story that Shun is versus the real hero story that Julius is.

Mar 31, 2021 6:05 AM

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saifors said:
Damn, Okina, why you gotta make dead characters likable?
Julius is THE Fantasy Hero of Justisce trope, yet was written in a way that made me not think of him as just some idealistic idiot, but someone who's genuinely an upstanding person and simultaneously idealist but also quite the realist, he's completely aware of his faults but this is what he has chosen to do and want to see it through for as long as his life lasts. Also filled in a lot of the gaps, like it wasn't really necessary but gave quite a bit of insight and a fresh perspective on some things, and while most of it wasn't necessary for the greater plot, the Holy Sword is quite the big deal, who will it be used on? Ariel? White? Sariel? D?

If I am not mistaken that sword is now in Shuns hands which makes Shuns a threat to Shiraori. If it is like the other god killing sword mentioned in volume 10 then it too was made by D and since the other one could not kill D this one probably cant either. With that being said it can potentially kill Shirairi since it is made to kill gods and althogh Shiraori can transfer her soul to other bodies it might not be enough since the sword is made to kill gods most off whom are even harder to kill then Shiraori

Mar 31, 2021 6:08 AM

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Aapjuh said:

DontCare69 said:
Kinda of a annoying volume, I didn't like Julius before and don't like him now, but we got some new worldbuilding and information so it wasn't a entire volume of filler.

to me vol11 was trash, i don't care about julius either, but damn even the sophia parts were crap.

The Sophia parts were mostly comedy but it does explain where she got other vampire servants from. The Sanatoria part was grreat and some important stuff like the god killing sword, the spirits and Poitamus organization were addressed this volume.

Apr 2, 2021 9:59 AM

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The new approach was interesting, as well as learning more of who was Julius... Since we either didn't know about him or only had a biased perspecting. So this volume did make me think a bit better of him...

But I keep thinking that the writing style is declining a bit? Have been thinking that since like 2 volumes ago. Or I'm just not able to get as interested anymore.

Sophia's diary was a great bump tho lol that made it a bit better.

I'm also curious as to whether we will get an explanation for White's army, since there was a reference to them being initially normal people.

Oh also the Word of God spy... Could it be the first reincarnation that messed the teleport gates? Mmm

valiant27 said:
That was a nice read. (...)

+10, agreed. But alas, u gotta make a generic random to be the actual hero.
Tho this brings to question what Oka said about the student rooster skill and when they are all supposed to die.

jmstructor said:

As long as you know the book is filler its a fine read. Like you could probably skip this book and not miss anything, like is the only important thing that happened is Leston has the hero sword?

The volume does explain stuff related to the story in general tho, so it doesn't seem like a good idea to suggest skipping it, althought I felt the same at times while reading ^^;

psyk2642 said:
Interestingly in the editor's notes, he mentioned we may get more than 22(minus 1) volumes worth of Kumoko!

The author said there it was most likely we wouldn't get that far lol

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Apr 5, 2021 3:20 PM

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I really don't like when LNs do that... "Lets take a volume long detour to follow a tetriary character who's only relevance to the main plot is dying to motivate a more important character, it will be great".
I'm at chapter two and so far nothing of relevance, or even interesting, has happened. Sophia's diary is neat tho.
Is there any information in here that makes it worth reading, or is it just all pointless bs like the chapters i've already read? If it's the latter i might just read Sophia's diary and skip the rest.

Apr 5, 2021 5:15 PM

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HyoukaYukikaze said:
I really don't like when LNs do that... "Lets take a volume long detour to follow a tetriary character who's only relevance to the main plot is dying to motivate a more important character, it will be great".
I'm at chapter two and so far nothing of relevance, or even interesting, has happened. Sophia's diary is neat tho.
Is there any information in here that makes it worth reading, or is it just all pointless bs like the chapters i've already read? If it's the latter i might just read Sophia's diary and skip the rest.

Well, if you don't mind SPOILERS:

This volume is like a chronicle of Julius' adventures as a hero to show his growth over the years and how he lives up to his title better than Shun.

The first half is about fighting a human-trafficking organization together with military commanders of other nations, or at least the kidnappers but not the masterminds since they never found out who they were. Julius comes to term with the necessity to kill criminals and the fact that some people are plain irredeemable. He also earns the respect of the commanders since until now, they only saw him as a kid to protect and a figurehead. Tiva, the old imperial court knight, acts as an mentor to Julius and takes part in this operation because he lost his son, daughter-in-law and grandkid to the criminal organization.

At one point, Julius returns to his kingdom to attend Shun and Sue's appraisal ceremony. At the same time, Tiva and his group discover one of the kidnappers' hideout in an underground tunnel, but they're promptly massacred. Tiva survives long enough to find out that the masterminds behind the series of kidnappings around the world were Potimas and the elves, who were after the reincarnations and kidnapped regular kids as a smokescreen (it's not explained further, but I think we can all guess by now the final fate of the regular kids). Potimas kills him so no one else learns that the elves were the culprits. After that, he brings the last reincarnation he could capture to the elf village so he stops the kidnappings, but turns out that reincarnation is a spy working directly under Dustin, and he possesses a skill that allows him to communicate with him via Long-Distance Telepathy that isn't affected by the elves' barrier.

Next, the grieving Julius and Ronant meet at Tiva's funeral, the hero blames himself for not being there to help Tiva, so Ronant fights and crushes him to make him understand that he would've been too weak to make a difference anyway, and that there'll always be someone stronger, and gives him a magic sword. Then Julius and his party now travel the world to help people and fight monsters, building himself a reputation. At one point they had to fight a phoenix who was about to burn a village. They're clearly outmatched, then Hyrince, the shield guy, saves Julius from a fire blast and ends up severely burnt but alive. The phoenix flies away and leaves behind a feather that allows the bearer to cheat death once, so Julius insisted that Hyrince take it.

After that, the party meets Aurel, who had become a court mage since then, in the city near the Mystic Mountains. They learn that demons have started migrating to the humans' territory to escape the Demon Lord. Then some of them claim they want to cooperate with the empire to take down Ariel, so Julius and his gang go meet them. Turns out the demons in question are Sanatoria, the succubus of the demon army, and Huey, the shota, with their soldiers. Unsurprisingly, it was a trap so the demons could kill some bigshots and get themselves in Ariel's good graces for fear that she would kill them anytime otherwise. The hero's party manages to flee, so the ambush is a bust. The demons thought they were safe from Ariel because it all happened in secret, but then Ariel appears. She knew everything thanks to White, who is now commander of the 10th army (all her soldiers are spies clad in white and seem to be actual people who were brainwashed). They were frozen in fear but Ariel just told them that she needed the hero to stay alive for now. Then she leaves with White (because yes, she was there too) and warns the others not to act out of line from now, or else she'll eat them.

After that, Julius is now 21. He meets his brother Leston and gives him his magic sword. Then they remember a secret passage in their castle from when they were kids, it seemed to be a dead end, except now that Julius is a hero, the passage shows a dimensional room where they find the Sword of the Hero and the light dragon that guards it (similar to what happened at the end of volume 10). This sword has the power to kill even a god, but it's a one use only. Julius decides not to use it, but that convinces the light dragon to give it to him anyway, and reside in the sword. On his way to meet with Shun, he crosses path with Potimas, who just decides to ignore him, and maybe it's thanks to the light dragon, but Julius instinctively knows that Potimas is a dangerous bastard, but he does nothing more. Then he meets and chats with Shun and Sue before heading out to fight the demons.

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Apr 5, 2021 5:32 PM

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Thanks. I'll skip ahead to the later chapters then.

May 9, 2021 10:27 PM

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Some people here are complaining about Julius, but i got say he is a much better character than Shun.

Shun is the typical LN MC...weak, can't kill anyone even if it's someone trying to kill him, don't know how to say no (to Sue for example)...Julius is just way more interesting than him.

It's a pity that he died and we got stuck with Shun. I just hope the author will keep Kumoko as the only MC. The other reincarnations are clearly important, but they should never come close to Kumoko's importance.

People complete about the one part of the story, but we still have one more character to be rescued by White and her friends so i'm sure it will be at least half a book worth of story just for him.

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Jun 8, 2021 6:45 PM

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Ppl be complaining about the quality of writing since the end of volume 5, but honestly I feel like its the same. With this volume, for example, is just a fresh perspective on some old events. It's filling in gaps that don't necessarily need to be filled, but by doing so, the story, characters, and events happening in the story feel so much more real to me.

I also like how this volume showed us how Shun is just a crappy Julius-lite. But I also think that's the point. Julius is typical fantasy hero who is very self-aware and genuine, whereas Shun is just a typical isekai protag, except he can't do anything worthwhile no matter what he tries. He's a loser in the conflict. Not everyone can be a hero...and I very curious to see where his character development goes after reaching taboo level 10...

Also, I think it's hard to call this "filler" when we don't know how or if any of the contents wherein will become important. The author has shown us that he likes to circle back to old events with new information. He does it all the time. This volume is no exception.

But yeah, it did feel a lot fluffier than other volumes. And that's fine. Side stories are fine.

Oct 18, 2021 3:08 AM

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I was disappointed at the beginning when I realised that it was going to be side story stuff but I was actually pretty ok with this volume.

Julius is definitely a way better hero than Shun will ever be. His party are an enjoyable group of characters. Too bad most of them will die during the war.

Tiva really was a cool character. He did such a great job of supporting Julius in his early days.

Interesting to see Julius receiving the hero sword. I'm assuming Shun now has it. I'm definitely curious with role it will play later in the story.

Oct 18, 2021 3:08 PM

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G_Spark233 said:
I was disappointed at the beginning when I realised that it was going to be side story stuff but I was actually pretty ok with this volume.

Julius is definitely a way better hero than Shun will ever be. His party are an enjoyable group of characters. Too bad most of them will die during the war.

Tiva really was a cool character. He did such a great job of supporting Julius in his early days.

Interesting to see Julius receiving the hero sword. I'm assuming Shun now has it. I'm definitely curious with role it will play later in the story.

In the Web Novel, after D's reveal, White becomes something like an omniscient god where we just follow her in her adventures without any real surprises during a very long time. It's a good thing that the author decides to make her less important after she launched her mini-mes around the world (yes Volume 11 doesn't exist in the WN).

It's not my favorite (or my least favorite) volume, but it's a good one, ~new POVs are always a pleasure :)

Apr 15, 2022 6:49 AM

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Aapjuh said:

DontCare69 said:
Kinda of a annoying volume, I didn't like Julius before and don't like him now, but we got some new worldbuilding and information so it wasn't a entire volume of filler.

to me vol11 was trash, i don't care about julius either, but damn even the sophia parts were crap.

Lmao I came here to see other's reaction too. I guess I'm not the only one. I would LOVE to skip this volume, but I feel like I would lose too much info.

Apr 19, 2022 7:03 PM

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Finally done with this volume.

At first, I was hesitant to read the entire 11th Volume of the Light Novel of Kumo desu ga, Nani ka?. But after reading it, I can say for sure that it was a worth read. It was actually pretty fun to read what happened in Hero Julius perspectives. The struggles, the lessons learned, and other stuff. I did learn moral lessons from this volume too.

The most fun part for me was when the Hero Julius and his friends went to the obvious trap. They were lucky to survive that trap by the demons though. Also, Lady Ariel looked so terrifying to the Demon Commanders. Also, Shiraori has really got used to Spatial Conjuring, and that's good for her! Keep up with it and become a powerful god soon, Shiraori!

Rest in peace to Mr. Tiva who just wanted to avenge his son and his son's family. Tiva had no match for Potimas Harrifenas, the holder of illegal technology.

Okay, moving on to next Volume!

Finished this Volume on 01:06 (Philippine Standard Time) at Wed, April 20.

May 29, 2022 7:00 PM

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This volume felt like an omake rather than a main story volume...I don't like the human side of the plot anyway, so it's a bit of a letdown to have a whole book of it. I guess Julius is better than generic-protag-kun, at least...

Jul 17, 2022 5:36 PM

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This volume felt like the worst to me so far.
I don't like Julius ( i don't hate him either ) but i think he is pretty much irrelevant so having him take a whole volume is kind of..

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Sep 3, 2022 6:41 PM

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The highlight of this volume was the fact that Julius met Sanatoria and she grabbed his hand and poisoned him and tried to kidnap him, but let's ignore that for now, that's a pairing I never knew I needed until I had it.

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