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dompsterfire said:
tatakae tatakae

good slow paced episode. next is episode 69.

nice.
Also good to see the leakers were right afterall
Feb 7, 2021 8:24 AM
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imbAF said:
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Imagine if MAPPA makes two-episodes OVA or 70 min. movie for chapter 120-122
It would be the weirdest thing ever
I hope they end this season with chapter 122
And adapt 120-122 on episode 16 with a double length episode


Do people think before they speak? HOW on earth can they put the 3 most dialog HEAVY chapters together in a single one?? Like do people understand what pacing is? IT WILL NOT REACH 122, IT WILL REACH AT MOST 119. Deal with it already
Actually dude, except 120, the other 2 chapterss Are not half as dialogue heavy tbh.
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Leniaczeq said:
I'm sure we heard the s3 track during shooting practice, it was 2An. The rest of the episode also features Sawano songs from previous seasons. Sawano GOAT's full potential has gone into the upcoming Hathaway trilogy lol.

Every single time I hear a soundtrack in AoT that's not different (Like War) or well known (YSBG), I keep guessing that it's WMId lol, Idk if it's because they start out the same or whether I just love WMId the most.




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This episode was solid. That’s it. Just solid. I liked the pacing, the dialogue was executed perfectly, few shots were a bit dodgy with character faces but that doesn’t take away its brilliance. +, we saw chad eren, like what more do you want lmao. Hopefully they keep the animation like this for the next few chapters, and when THAT forest scene happens in 2-4 episodes, it’s animated really well.

9/10, loved it, Mappa’s doing a class job 🙌
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Harsha1314 said:
Leniaczeq said:

I am still very careful about the assumption that from now on we will only hear Sawano's new music lol. I'm sure we heard the s3 track during shooting practice, it was 2An. The rest of the episode also features Sawano songs from previous seasons. Sawano GOAT's full potential has gone into the upcoming Hathaway trilogy lol.
The music placements, and ost use was just perfect this episode, I couldn't ask for more tbh

Yeah that was great Koizuka should learn from it lol. I just feel sorry for the people who really believed we would hear Sawano's new music.
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Harsha1314 said:
imbAF said:


Do people think before they speak? HOW on earth can they put the 3 most dialog HEAVY chapters together in a single one?? Like do people understand what pacing is? IT WILL NOT REACH 122, IT WILL REACH AT MOST 119. Deal with it already
Actually dude, except 120, the other 2 chapterss Are not half as dialogue heavy tbh.


Even if that was the case, which is not, even with 2 fully action packed chapters you can make 1 episode out of it. And now with at least,as you say, one chapter of dialog and 2 chapters of "action", you think you can put em in 1 episode? If that episode has no opening or ending and its like an OVA. And nearly 36 min then yeah, maybe
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imbAF said:
Rhhdaiw said:

Imagine if MAPPA makes two-episodes OVA or 70 min. movie for chapter 120-122
It would be the weirdest thing ever
I hope they end this season with chapter 122
And adapt 120-122 on episode 16 with a double length episode


Do people think before they speak? HOW on earth can they put the 3 most dialog HEAVY chapters together in a single one?? Like do people understand what pacing is? IT WILL NOT REACH 122, IT WILL REACH AT MOST 119. Deal with it already
122 can literally be adapted in 5 minutes.
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imbAF said:
Harsha1314 said:
Actually dude, except 120, the other 2 chapterss Are not half as dialogue heavy tbh.


Even if that was the case, which is not, even with 2 fully action packed chapters you can make 1 episode out of it. And now with at least,as you say, one chapter of dialog and 2 chapters of "action", you think you can put em in 1 episode? If that episode has no opening or ending and its like an OVA. And nearly 36 min then yeah, maybe
We shall see what happens.
Feb 7, 2021 8:31 AM
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Manga: how the fuck it's ending in 2 chapters
Anime: how the fuck it's ending on 122.
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Leniaczeq said:
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The music placements, and ost use was just perfect this episode, I couldn't ask for more tbh

Yeah that was great Koizuka should learn from it lol. I just feel sorry for the people who really believed we would hear Sawano's new music.
Yeah like I remember, a lot of dialogue heavy episodes especially in S3 pt1 missed a lil edge. like the coup detat episode, but seriously he did way better than average direction wise. This new director dude working on ep3 and this one is actually so good at what he does lol. I wasn't expecting this good of a work for this ep.
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I_Am_Freeballing said:
imbAF said:


Do people think before they speak? HOW on earth can they put the 3 most dialog HEAVY chapters together in a single one?? Like do people understand what pacing is? IT WILL NOT REACH 122, IT WILL REACH AT MOST 119. Deal with it already
122 can literally be adapted in 5 minutes.
Yeah but they'll need at least 7 minutes to do it justice
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imbAF said:
Rhhdaiw said:

Imagine if MAPPA makes two-episodes OVA or 70 min. movie for chapter 120-122
It would be the weirdest thing ever
I hope they end this season with chapter 122
And adapt 120-122 on episode 16 with a double length episode


Do people think before they speak? HOW on earth can they put the 3 most dialog HEAVY chapters together in a single one?? Like do people understand what pacing is? IT WILL NOT REACH 122, IT WILL REACH AT MOST 119. Deal with it already

Non stop 45 minute without op and ed is enough for 120-122 in my opinion
It will not be at the perfect pace
But better than finishing at 116 or 119
Feb 7, 2021 8:36 AM
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imbAF said:
Harsha1314 said:
Actually dude, except 120, the other 2 chapterss Are not half as dialogue heavy tbh.


Even if that was the case, which is not, even with 2 fully action packed chapters you can make 1 episode out of it. And now with at least,as you say, one chapter of dialog and 2 chapters of "action", you think you can put em in 1 episode? If that episode has no opening or ending and its like an OVA. And nearly 36 min then yeah, maybe
Did you not read the part where he said that ch 120-122 should get a double-length episode? Double length means 46-48 mins. Ch 120-121 aren't terribly dialogue heavy. They're just average in text density. And 122 is literally the least-dialogue heavy chapter of AoT.
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I_Am_Freeballing said:
imbAF said:


Do people think before they speak? HOW on earth can they put the 3 most dialog HEAVY chapters together in a single one?? Like do people understand what pacing is? IT WILL NOT REACH 122, IT WILL REACH AT MOST 119. Deal with it already
122 can literally be adapted in 5 minutes.


i mean yeah, if you want to see a slide show that is. If you want to convey a message or an emotion via actions,then you need to properly adapt and give it time.
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Ending at 119 is my preference, i've always wanted an anime season to end on an insane cliffhanger, i want that Code Geass Season 1 vibes
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AnDEh said:
Ending at 119 is my preference, i've always wanted an anime season to end on an insane cliffhanger, i want that Code Geass Season 1 vibes
code geass must've been hell to wait for S2 dude. the thing doesn't have a fucking manga
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sasha doing sasha things really made my heart hurts again :(

wonderful shot of colossal titan and attack titan, hange doing hange things was hilarious lol. FINALLY MANBUN EREN BEST EREN IS HERE!


great episode again, slow paced but still like 5 minutes lol



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Fazzan- said:
No lmao, this is not how it works. Quality will drop now and we will get movie level storyboarding in the final episodes. An animator even said this on twitter. Production schedule is extremely tight.

Then tell me how does it work, the titans and the CGI were the real problem of this season, seeing big chonky CG models of titans running around doesn't look good to many people, next few episodes will have less of that, so that means better reception. And like I said, if MAPPA can't pull off the non-titan scenes, then it's okay to lose all hope in MAPPA.




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Feb 7, 2021 8:46 AM
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Fazzan- said:
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ATTENTION!!! Next few episodes will be great because as far as I remember, there are very little titan fight scene, so CGI shouldn’t be a problem.

From here, the next few episodes should be AMAZING. Because I get it, animating titans is hard, but seriously, if they can’t pull off the next few episodes, then it’s safe to lose all hope in MAPPA.
Another good news is that Sawano should take over Kohta Yamamoto by this episode, so we can probably expect some GOAT tier soundtracks. During Eren’s shooting practice, I could hear a mix of WMId and something else, could this be it? A new GOAT tier Sawano track?

IT’S HERE, CHAD EREN IS HERE, LET’S GET READY TO RUMBLEEEEE.



And I can’t bear to see all the Sasha scenes, it’s just too sad man. Deaths in AoT are common, but Sasha was an OG, I’ve been watching her ever since first season, over 7 years.
Every Gabi scene, I just want to smash her face with a rock, I can’t believe I’m saying this, I never thought I’d say this, but I think… I hate her more than Sakura…
No lmao, this is not how it works. Quality will drop now and we will get movie level storyboarding in the final episodes. An animator even said this on twitter. Production schedule is extremely tight.


can you link that? Because we know for SURE that until by episode 12 we have reached chapter 111. That leaves you with 4 more episodes for 2 chapters per episode, meaning 119.
Feb 7, 2021 8:48 AM
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Arin-san said:
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No lmao, this is not how it works. Quality will drop now and we will get movie level storyboarding in the final episodes. An animator even said this on twitter. Production schedule is extremely tight.

Then tell me how does it work, the titans and the CGI were the real problem of this season, seeing big chonky CG models of titans running around doesn't look good to many people, next few episodes will have less of that, so that means better reception. And like I said, if MAPPA can't pull off the non-titan scenes, then it's okay to lose all hope in MAPPA.


They pulled of declaration of war with mostly still shots, they can pull off whatever comes next lol.

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MAQS said:
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Then tell me how does it work, the titans and the CGI were the real problem of this season, seeing big chonky CG models of titans running around doesn't look good to many people, next few episodes will have less of that, so that means better reception. And like I said, if MAPPA can't pull off the non-titan scenes, then it's okay to lose all hope in MAPPA.


They pulled of declaration of war with mostly still shots, they can pull off whatever comes next lol.


That's what I'm hoping for too! I'm hoping that the people who worked on Assault will do all of the rest of the episodes this season, I don't mind a little CGI here and there if that direction of the episode will be THAT good. They need to nail some great GREAT moments, if they do it then nothing can stop AoT anymore.




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Arin-san said:
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They pulled of declaration of war with mostly still shots, they can pull off whatever comes next lol.


That's what I'm hoping for too! I'm hoping that the people who worked on Assault will do all of the rest of the episodes this season, I don't mind a little CGI here and there if that direction of the episode will be THAT good. They need to nail some great GREAT moments, if they do it then nothing can stop AoT anymore.


Its physically impossible for the same people to work on many episodes, the production line system of making anime prevents this, since they are all made around the same time, work in ep 16 for example probably started ever since the first trailer released or before that even.

Vercreek said things are getting tight yes, and Ajay who is a guy with connections in the indstry saw some key animation from ep 8 before the season started, this was in November, and he said the drawings looked bad, and was war it wont be changed for the released, well when ep 8 released he updated saying that they indeed were able to change it.

At this point the bigger controversies will be from the story itself and the part they decide to end the season on.
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Arin-san said:
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They pulled of declaration of war with mostly still shots, they can pull off whatever comes next lol.


That's what I'm hoping for too! I'm hoping that the people who worked on Assault will do all of the rest of the episodes this season, I don't mind a little CGI here and there if that direction of the episode will be THAT good. They need to nail some great GREAT moments, if they do it then nothing can stop AoT anymore.

The PATHS chapters are mostly dialogue so I'm sure it'll be great.
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OI CHILL MAPPA YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE MIKASA THIS THICC
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aTrueKingofEldia said:
OI CHILL MAPPA YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE MIKASA THIS THICC
Yes they had to lmao
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A flashback episode adapting one chapter again. At this pace, we won't get chapter 122 animated in this part.
We got to see our Marley chef Niccolo. I feel sad for him Sasga's gone also sad for her family. Yelena simping Zeke lol. Sasha, don't ask that question again- oh wait she can't, but Onyankopon's response to her was good.
Historia in Mappa looks beautiful I've missed her. Look at Eren hiding that secret protecting Historia she looks surprised.
Zeke and Levi's interactions are fun to watch, Zeke's hilarious. Man bun Eren looking way too hot.
The next episode looks like two chapters will be adapted.

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aTrueKingofEldia said:
OI CHILL MAPPA YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE MIKASA THIS THICC


for a moment it seemed she was without pants lol
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MAQS said:
aTrueKingofEldia said:
OI CHILL MAPPA YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE MIKASA THIS THICC


for a moment it seemed she was without pants lol
i only realized it after you mentioned it lol
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z00nex said:
Seeing Sasha eat food happily hurt me a lot, Niccolo's reaction added even more to it.

The flashback scenes by WIT made the difference between studios clear.
what do you mean.
Better or worse?
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Tellatez said:
A flashback episode adapting one chapter again. At this pace, we won't get chapter 122 animated in this part.
We got to see our Marley chef Niccolo. I feel sad for him Sasga's gone also sad for her family. Yelena simping Zeke lol. Sasha, don't ask that question again- oh wait she can't, but Onyankopon's response to her was good.
Historia in Mappa looks beautiful I've missed her. Look at Eren hiding that secret protecting Historia she looks surprised.
Zeke and Levi's interactions are fun to watch, Zeke's hilarious. Man bun Eren looking way too hot.
The next episode looks like two chapters will be adapted.


More than one chapter.
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kaiki_fan_boy said:
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OI CHILL MAPPA YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE MIKASA THIS THICC
Yes they had to lmao


I remember plenty of people criticizing WIT for making Mikasa more "waifu-like" (I don't blame them) and amping up her "assets" now look at what MAPPA's doing

Though in their defense Mikasa looked extra thicc too in that panel of the manga but she was sitting instead (and thicc Armond too)

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lelouch4britanni said:
z00nex said:
Seeing Sasha eat food happily hurt me a lot, Niccolo's reaction added even more to it.

The flashback scenes by WIT made the difference between studios clear.
what do you mean.
Better or worse?
WIT's was obviously better.
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z00nex said:
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what do you mean.
Better or worse?
WIT's was obviously better.

Well..................
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Can someone tell me if they adapted Sasha asking Onion Coupon why he is black and if they played You see BIGGIRL during it? so I know what to expect when I'll watch the episode.
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Tasel said:
Can someone tell me if they adapted Sasha asking Onion Coupon why he is black and if they played You see BIGGIRL during it? so I know what to expect when I'll watch the episode.


Yeah they did show that scene. lol no they didn't play that ost.
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z00nex said:
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what do you mean.
Better or worse?
WIT's was obviously better.
at 2D character designs? good joke.
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Sourire said:
z00nex said:
WIT's was obviously better.
at 2D character designs? good joke.
Thanks I found it pretty funny too.
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z00nex said:
lelouch4britanni said:
what do you mean.
Better or worse?
WIT's was obviously better.


Wait, I'm confuse are you implying that these flashback scenes were made by Wit studio? Because this was all done by Mappa.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you worded that wrong, and was just saying that based off these flashback scenes wit did a better job.
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Good pacing, nice art and backgrounds, and seems they adapted literally everything in 106 and around half of 107 with little to no cuts. 5/5
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keragamming said:
z00nex said:
WIT's was obviously better.


Wait, I'm confuse are you implying that these flashback scenes were made by Wit studio? Because this was all done by Mappa.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you worded that wrong, and was just saying that based off these flashback scenes wit did a better job.
Not the flashback scenes that we saw for the first time. Scenes from the previous seasons in this episode were taken from those seasons, I'll check it again to make sure.
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z00nex said:
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Wait, I'm confuse are you implying that these flashback scenes were made by Wit studio? Because this was all done by Mappa.

I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you worded that wrong, and was just saying that based off these flashback scenes wit did a better job.
Not the flashback scenes that we saw for the first time. Scenes from the previous seasons in this episode were taken from those seasons, I'll check it again to make sure.
I checked it again and the flashback scene where Eren touched the titan's hand looked like it was made by WIT as far as I can see.
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z00nex said:
lelouch4britanni said:
what do you mean.
Better or worse?
WIT's was obviously better.

Well.... and then you have s3...
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Another great episode.
Great to see Eren's man Bun.
RIP Sasha, ;_;
Feb 7, 2021 10:03 AM
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Really interesting backstory but it hurts to see Sasha alive now :( and damn Eren at the end, he looks so epic
Feb 7, 2021 10:04 AM

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I loved this Episode.
There was so much impact. I actually like explanation of things more than just normal fights... ^^'
And the symbolism in this episode was pretty cool :)
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aTrueKingofEldia said:
OI CHILL MAPPA YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO MAKE MIKASA THIS THICC
isn't she is looking extremely hot??
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z00nex said:
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at 2D character designs? good joke.
Thanks I found it pretty funny too.

Broooo, s1 have the best direction and animation for sure. S2 have the best art style. BUT s4 so far have better direction,storyboard and character design than s3. S3 is a mistake only because Kaizuka is a BAD directior. Hayashi and Araki are obviously better. And then s1>s2>s4>>>>>s3 (if we talk about adaptation ofc, if we talk about plot, well, then s3 and s4 are the best)
In addition, pay attention to how much help WIT had in s1 and s2 (s1 is mostly like IG Production and tons of freelancers work) . S3 is basically almost only WIT, this can give you a clear idea that the WIT as a studio itself is not that great at all. MAPPA, on the other hand, only has 8 months of production, if they had 2 years to produce, wel .. (ofc MAPPA relies on outside help too, every studio does, but not as much as AOT s1). At least S1 is the only too high a bar for any studio, but only because Araki was a director then and well ... you can't manage a project better than Araki, he is the best, lol.
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Leniaczeq said:
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Thanks I found it pretty funny too.

Broooo, s1 have the best direction and animatior for sure. S2 have the best art style. BUT s4 so far have better direction,storyboard and character design than s3. S3 is a mistake onky because Kaizuka is BAD direction. Hayashi and Araki are obviosly better. And then s1>s2>s4>>>>>s3 (if we talk about adaptation ofc, if we talk about plot, well, then s3 and s4 are the best)
In addition, pay attention to how much help WIT had in s1 and s2 (s1 is mostly like IG Production and tons of freelancers worl) . S3 is basically almost only WIT, this can give you a clear idea that the WIT as a studio itself is not that great at all. MAPPA, on the other hand, only has 8 months of production, if they had 2 years to produce, wel .. (ofc MAPPA relies on outside help too, every studio does, but not as much as AOT s1). At least S1 is the only too high a bar for any studio, but only because Araki was a director then and well ... you can't manage a project better than Araki, he is the best, lol.
I neither hate nor shame MAPPA for this season lol. I know that they had bad schedule and that’s the higher ups fault, not the animators. I like WIT’s aot more than MAPPA’s and think it’s better. I don’t have much knowledge about the help WIT got from others but what you say sounds about right.
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Holy fuck why are those Marleyans Traitor are fucking hot? Yelena, Nicolo, Onyankopon, also Zeke. Especially Yelena, she simped Zeke and i'm here simped her.

This might be just a little thing but they're succeeded to make Pixis and Yelena relationship feels lively, because you know, her and Pixis conflict on upcoming episodes played a big role on this arc.

Also, Zeke's reaction after knowing that his hotel is just.... LOL. That stupid face with his mouth open is hilarious as heck.

It's solid 9/10 for me, but Ayaneru voice acting saying "Eren Yeager" is something notable for me so in the end it's 10/10 again.
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z00nex said:
z00nex said:
Not the flashback scenes that we saw for the first time. Scenes from the previous seasons in this episode were taken from those seasons, I'll check it again to make sure.
I checked it again and the flashback scene where Eren touched the titan's hand looked like it was made by WIT as far as I can see.


Oh, you are talking about the season 2 scene? Yeah that is from Wit studio.
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