The one thing I dont understand now is, why WIT censored so much the violence?

Dec 20, 2020 1:45 PM

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Another one trying to make WIT looks bad to make people forget that MAPPA ruined AOT season 4.

Dec 20, 2020 1:47 PM

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WIT did show a lot of gore, and seeing Vinland Saga, we can see that WIT doesn't have much issue with violence either. You must've watched a censored version

Dec 20, 2020 1:55 PM

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Madao_z said:
WIT did show a lot of gore, and seeing Vinland Saga, we can see that WIT doesn't have much issue with violence either. You must've watched a censored version

Season three was heavily censored. You must've Watch another show

Dec 20, 2020 1:56 PM

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Madao_z said:
WIT did show a lot of gore, and seeing Vinland Saga, we can see that WIT doesn't have much issue with violence either. You must've watched a censored version

Examples:

Grisha sister being killed

Levi hurting Zeke after defeating him

Gross being chewed after Kruger push him.

This season stuff that I was thinking was gonna be censored like Reiner pointing the gun inside his mouth or Fort Slava soldiers being eating by titans were not censored, that is my question, its odd, all other changes we know.

They cannot make the Titans 2d mostly because they dont have the staff talented enough for that, they are forced to rush so much because of the ep count being 16 eps, instead of what it should have been 20, etc.

Dec 20, 2020 1:58 PM

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badmintonadvisor said:
Another one trying to make WIT looks bad to make people forget that MAPPA ruined AOT season 4.

Hardly, check my scoring.

Dec 20, 2020 1:59 PM

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censorship is always mandated by the TV station anyway so who knows why the TV station change their stance, maybe the government regulatory board also agreed to it or they change their TV censorship rules

Dec 20, 2020 2:04 PM

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Pretty sure the first couple of seasons, which were the most graphic aired on MBS in Japan and S3, which censored the most irc, aired on NHK and continues to do so.

Perhaps the production committee were able to negotiate with NHK when discussing the contract around the final season. Perhaps it was an important detail for them.

Dec 20, 2020 2:22 PM

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badmintonadvisor said:
Another one trying to make WIT looks bad to make people forget that MAPPA ruined AOT season 4.

They haven't I am happy with it for the most part outside of a few issues. Plenty of manga readers hated the adaption of S3 too. At the end of the day most anime only I have seen praised the new season and the score on MAL is fine.

Dec 20, 2020 2:33 PM

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MAQS said:
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Madao_z said:
WIT did show a lot of gore, and seeing Vinland Saga, we can see that WIT doesn't have much issue with violence either. You must've watched a censored version

Examples:

Grisha sister being killed

Levi hurting Zeke after defeating him

Gross being chewed after Kruger push him.

This season stuff that I was thinking was gonna be censored like Reiner pointing the gun inside his mouth or Fort Slava soldiers being eating by titans were not censored, that is my question, its odd, all other changes we know.

They cannot make the Titans 2d mostly because they dont have the staff talented enough for that, they are forced to rush so much because of the ep count being 16 eps, instead of what it should have been 20, etc.

That is excessive it's more like 18 episodes over 16 pacing should be more close to previous seasons after this and this was actually the first episode where I would argue anything notable got cut. Like the important scenes cut honestly in this backstory at most needed 5-6 more minutes. MAPPA has talented staff the issue is the time needed to produce all of this

Dec 20, 2020 2:42 PM

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TolkienFan365 said:

MAQS said:
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Examples:

Grisha sister being killed

Levi hurting Zeke after defeating him

Gross being chewed after Kruger push him.

This season stuff that I was thinking was gonna be censored like Reiner pointing the gun inside his mouth or Fort Slava soldiers being eating by titans were not censored, that is my question, its odd, all other changes we know.

They cannot make the Titans 2d mostly because they dont have the staff talented enough for that, they are forced to rush so much because of the ep count being 16 eps, instead of what it should have been 20, etc.

That is excessive it's more like 18 episodes over 16 pacing should be more close to previous seasons after this and this was actually the first episode where I would argue anything notable got cut. Like the important scenes cut honestly in this backstory at most needed 5-6 more minutes. MAPPA has talented staff the issue is the time needed to produce all of this

Appropriate pacing for me is S2 which adapted 16 chapters plus almost a full chapter of ymir backstory in 240 min, for comparison Uprising in anime was 216 min, and RTS was 258 min. Fun fact is that both RTS and S2 are 12 ep long.

Also MAPPA in the Friday interview said they did not have enough qualified animators for titans to be 2d all the time.

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Dec 20, 2020 2:45 PM

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badmintonadvisor said:
Another one trying to make WIT looks bad to make people forget that MAPPA ruined AOT season 4.

How tf Mappa ruined AOT?

Dec 20, 2020 3:14 PM

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MAQS said:

TolkienFan365 said:

That is excessive it's more like 18 episodes over 16 pacing should be more close to previous seasons after this and this was actually the first episode where I would argue anything notable got cut. Like the important scenes cut honestly in this backstory at most needed 5-6 more minutes. MAPPA has talented staff the issue is the time needed to produce all of this

Appropriate pacing for me is S2 which adapted 16 chapters plus almost a full chapter of ymir backstory in 240 min, for comparison Uprising in anime was 216 min, and RTS was 258 min. Fun fact is that both RTS and S2 are 12 ep long.

Also MAPPA in the Friday interview said they did not have enough qualified animators for titans to be 2d all the time.

Never saw the interview I assumed that it was the biggest issue considering how intense the production was for past seasons and it would free up time.

Also S2 was kinda drawn out to me mainly in the beginning I think that was a bit too slow something slightly faster than that would be ideal.

Dec 20, 2020 3:19 PM

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deg said:
censorship is always mandated by the TV station anyway so who knows why the TV station change their stance, maybe the government regulatory board also agreed to it or they change their TV censorship rules

Nope, I think it was a artistic choice by Wit studio. Nothing else nothing more.

Dec 20, 2020 3:22 PM

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TolkienFan365 said:

MAQS said:

Appropriate pacing for me is S2 which adapted 16 chapters plus almost a full chapter of ymir backstory in 240 min, for comparison Uprising in anime was 216 min, and RTS was 258 min. Fun fact is that both RTS and S2 are 12 ep long.

Also MAPPA in the Friday interview said they did not have enough qualified animators for titans to be 2d all the time.

Never saw the interview I assumed that it was the biggest issue considering how intense the production was for past seasons and it would free up time.

Also S2 was kinda drawn out to me mainly in the beginning I think that was a bit too slow something slightly faster than that would be ideal.

S2 was perfect for me, S1 was the one with the drawn out parts specially the stretch of eps 10 to 13.

Dec 20, 2020 3:53 PM

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badmintonadvisor said:
Another one trying to make WIT looks bad to make people forget that MAPPA ruined AOT season 4.

How did MAPPA ruin AOT? I personally really like it along with many others

Dec 20, 2020 4:13 PM

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Tv version always get censored bro... Just wait for the blu ray version

Dec 20, 2020 4:39 PM

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MAQS said:

TolkienFan365 said:

Never saw the interview I assumed that it was the biggest issue considering how intense the production was for past seasons and it would free up time.

Also S2 was kinda drawn out to me mainly in the beginning I think that was a bit too slow something slightly faster than that would be ideal.

S2 was perfect for me, S1 was the one with the drawn out parts specially the stretch of eps 10 to 13.

Well, they adapted 32-33 chapters into 25 episodes, which is one of the reasons why some of that season dragged. 22 episodes would have been more than enough.

Dec 20, 2020 4:56 PM

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davidyodo24 said:
Tv version always get censored bro... Just wait for the blu ray version

I got the limited edition blu ray... re-watched it now twice since I bought it.

Still there.

Dec 20, 2020 5:00 PM

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xenosys said:

MAQS said:

S2 was perfect for me, S1 was the one with the drawn out parts specially the stretch of eps 10 to 13.

Well, they adapted 32-33 chapters into 25 episodes, which is one of the reasons why some of that season dragged. 22 episodes would have been more than enough.

Yes also something else is that WIT changed its approach after S2 mainly because the got a shorter ep count for S3

But in S1 and S2 they almost always had recaps at the beginning of each ep, some even lasting 3 and half minutes out of the entire 21 min episode.

S3 had almost none of those, they used all 21 min of the eps focusing the present story.

With that same approach S1 could have been 20 eps and still being a perfect adaptation.

Dec 20, 2020 9:06 PM

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keragamming said:

deg said:
censorship is always mandated by the TV station anyway so who knows why the TV station change their stance, maybe the government regulatory board also agreed to it or they change their TV censorship rules

Nope, I think it was a artistic choice by Wit studio. Nothing else nothing more.

sure that can be a reason too

Dec 20, 2020 9:21 PM

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badmintonadvisor said:
Another one trying to make WIT looks bad to make people forget that MAPPA ruined AOT season 4.

If you think this thread is about making WIT looks bad then you have very low standarts with your anime

P.S AoT would be ruined if MAPPA didn't pick it up

Dec 20, 2020 9:23 PM

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Yes wit's attack on titan was heavily censored.
It didn't show Eren's mom being eaten by a titan.
It didn't show Eren being eaten by a titan.
When I was watching Demon slayer I was quite surprised with how explicit the violence and the blood was shown.

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Dec 20, 2020 10:26 PM

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WIT'S S3 aired on NHK station and it has the strictest censorship control than any other tv stations in japan, reason why is, NHK is considered a national-level broadcast media in Japan which is very influential among the viewers.

Though it is privately operated on the surface, it was once state-owned after all so it literally represents the overall image of japan broadcast media, thus the strictest values and standards on the content it airs.

In fact, this season also has a lot of requirements on the colour and the shooting style of certain gory and bloody scenes, they couldn't use strong saturation and contrast composite for the sensitive scenes....

However this doesn't mean these scenes wont appear at all, negotiations can be made with the tv station...
For example, if certain scenes are censored... then the plot development will be inconsistent and non-logical, or the original manga have that particular scene and it is widely accepted by everyone or that scene is needed for character development e.g.. reiner's suicide scene.

The production studio had to compromise for the censorship on some parts but they can also fight to get the important scenes through or improvise the animation for those scenes like the scene of levi cutting through the throat of zeke in anime instead of cutting into his eyes like manga did.

source: weibo

Dec 20, 2020 10:41 PM

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hinako49 said:
WIT'S S3 aired on NHK station and it has the strictest censorship control than any other tv stations in japan, reason why is, NHK is considered a national-level broadcast media in Japan which is very influential among the viewers.

Though it is privately operated on the surface, it was once state-owned after all so it literally represents the overall image of japan broadcast media, thus the strictest values and standards on the content it airs.

In fact, this season also has a lot of requirements on the colour and the shooting style of certain gory and bloody scenes, they couldn't use strong saturation and contrast composite for the sensitive scenes....

However this doesn't mean these scenes wont appear at all, negotiations can be made with the tv station...
For example, if certain scenes are censored... then the plot development will be inconsistent and non-logical, or the original manga have that particular scene and it is widely accepted by everyone or that scene is needed for character development e.g.. reiner's suicide scene.

The production studio had to compromise for the censorship on some parts but they can also fight to get the important scenes through or improvise the animation for those scenes like the scene of levi cutting through the throat of zeke in anime instead of cutting into his eyes like manga did.

source: weibo

As always you are the MVP here, You are a treasure trove of info.

Surprised the tv station is that flexible.

Dec 20, 2020 10:51 PM

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MAQS said:

hinako49 said:
WIT'S S3 aired on NHK station and it has the strictest censorship control than any other tv stations in japan, reason why is, NHK is considered a national-level broadcast media in Japan which is very influential among the viewers.

Though it is privately operated on the surface, it was once state-owned after all so it literally represents the overall image of japan broadcast media, thus the strictest values and standards on the content it airs.

In fact, this season also has a lot of requirements on the colour and the shooting style of certain gory and bloody scenes, they couldn't use strong saturation and contrast composite for the sensitive scenes....

However this doesn't mean these scenes wont appear at all, negotiations can be made with the tv station...
For example, if certain scenes are censored... then the plot development will be inconsistent and non-logical, or the original manga have that particular scene and it is widely accepted by everyone or that scene is needed for character development e.g.. reiner's suicide scene.

The production studio had to compromise for the censorship on some parts but they can also fight to get the important scenes through or improvise the animation for those scenes like the scene of levi cutting through the throat of zeke in anime instead of cutting into his eyes like manga did.

source: weibo

As always you are the MVP here, You are a treasure trove of info.

Surprised the tv station is that flexible.

No problem...funny how fans on both side (MAL and weibo) have the same doubts and the animator also explained on this so i just copy paste it here lol 😂

i think the station being flexible also because AOT is a very popular series and the story is very well received in japan although there are some sensitive content , if everything got censored fans will probably have an outrage on them lmao

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Another one trying to make WIT looks bad to make people forget that MAPPA ruined AOT season 4.

@badmintona How you fucking idiot?

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