Yesterday wo Utatte Episode 6 Discussion

Sweanime said:
Funny how a minor character can be more interresting then two main girl. I Even feel she would be more interesting to engage in the story and win the whole thing.

ToraiS said:
Yuzuhara aside, the ED shot of someone's corkboard being finally filled up has not really been mentioned in this discussion. I think it signifies something; does it signify the end of the semi-episodic nature of this show, is something big gonna happen in the next few weeks or do we get a new ED next week? Pretty sure that corkboard needs a replacement, or a clean slate.

Exciting if you ask me, not to get my hopes up for nothing though.

Marty_McFlew said:
Just noticed that in the ED, there was a pregnancy test on the clipboard.... hmmmm... I wonder what this could mean

Spaceship said:




I noticed that too! I wonder what it means. Really great effect though.




Are you sure you're not talking about the electronic thermometer (center right)?

Marty_McFlew said:
Just noticed that in the ED, there was a pregnancy test on the clipboard.... hmmmm... I wonder what this could mean

Sokah said:
I'm pretty damn sick of how the sniffles knocks Japanese people unconscious and makes them bedridden. This needs to go the way of blood spurting out their nose any time they see an attractive girl.

Spaceship said:

Are you sure you're not talking about the electronic thermometer (center right)?

herrickluk said:

One thing I hate that he’s doing though is saying to Haru, “What does it matter to you, anyway?” whenever she finds out about him with another woman. Whatever happens I hope Haru gets a good route, she’s still by far my favourite character and romantic interest for Rikuo.

PaninaManina said:
After six episodes people should had already understood that this isn't the type of story where the characters exist just to please the viewer.



I laughed when "the joke fell flat".
This still happens in recent anime? And did this ever had "a bit of truth"?


I wish that was an analog thermometer.




Like Haru already said one time before, he could say things a bit nicer, but this is the way he is and talks, and he isn't wrong. Just like Shinako have no obligation of being forced into a relationship with Rikuo, he too have no obligations with Haru. He is already doing a lot allowing her to stay around, but only because she said that she didn't cared if she "lost", being the second, seeing he with other woman. It's her fault is she can't take it, it's Haru being immatureacting angry like that. She is younger than them and less experienced and it shows in these moments.

herrickluk said:

You're not giving Haru enough credit here. Yes she overreacted but she has every right to feel that way considering Rikuo knows exactly 'why it matters' to her. It's not just that he could say things nicer, but Haru has been completely transparent about her feelings and he's making light of it with his response, knowing full well the weight of his words. Not only Haru, but Rikuo himself is also immature by not taking Haru and Haru's feelings seriously, especially because he should understand kataomoi better than anyone considering him and Shinako.
I agree that they both have no obligation to one another but as this anime has shown, their relationship is more complicated than it seems as they both care about one another, but won't admit it at this point in time.

puruprendo said:
I'll wait for another episode, but I've gotta say that the few last episodes have been very, very disappointing.
This is not how you write a good romance. You don't throw new romantic rivals (or figures that attain to that role) every episode until the main cast realizes their feelings. You don't advance the romance with coincidences, plot devices, and conveniences. How fucking times the cast has already met 'purely randomly' while walking on the street every episode? Not only it isn't credible in any way, but even if it was for some convenient narrative purpose, you do *not* do that in a romance. It's a cheap technique to throw drama or the usual 'hey! i'm jealous and furious! that must mean i love him/her!' that Yesterday wo Utatte seems to love so much.
And you know what makes angry? That all the characters by themselves *are* good, they're realistic, their dynamics are compelling and believable. Chika and Rikuo's dialogues were fantastic, as well as Minato and Haru's. But the author, plain obviously, makes them interact with others solely to advance the main romance.
Also, you don't need to tell me that the series has interesting reflections or whatever, I know what I watched. The main romance remains a shitshow.
EDIT: Forgot to mention that this episode had one of the best chara acting Yesterday had to offer yet. Truly a pleasure to watch.

Ryuseishun said:
Whelp the format of this episode is practically the same as last week's episode.

Former high school friends moves in on a main character's life, Former friend sticks around and talks about romance from back then and claims he/she's moving on, former friend then gets abruptly and leaves without much impact to the story.

Yea, not much more to take away from here considering everyone wants to bring up the subject of romance as a means to break away from their "yesterday". Except that's not how it really works conveniently even in reality.

PaninaManina said:


Then, because Haru likes Rikuo he can't be involved with other woman? Even Shinako?
If anyone still have any doubts about this rewatched the scene. Haru went to him to ask "how he dared to allow other woman in his house" as much as to know what was the situation. This is already bad, because imply that Rikuo should had informed her and was doing wrong in "hiding" Chika from her. Of couse not because it's none of her business.
Then they sit and he explains. There's a little time jump here, because we don't need to her Rikuo explaining, just know that he explained to Haru.
What she does next?
"I still don't like it! Tell her to leave!", is what she says, demanding that he does her will. More, she insists and starts accusing him of liking her and implying that he wants Chika there because he is liking her "romantically". It's not true but Rikuo have all the right if it was true and it's none of her business.
Oh yeah, other thing that may also be important, in the english subtitle Rikuo says "what does it matter to you" but in other languages he says "it's none of your business". "Daitai, omaeni kankeinai darou?" This "kankei/関係" means "unrelated". In other words, IT'S NONE OF HER BUSINESS and "Rikuo did nothing wrong!".

Haru is trying but she is with the wrong impression that she will get the results she desires just because she is doing something.

Sweanime said:
Funny how a minor character can be more interresting then two main girl.

Marty_McFlew said:
Just noticed that in the ED, there was a pregnancy test on the clipboard.... hmmmm... I wonder what this could mean

herrickluk said:

Did I say he can’t get involved with other women?
Rikuo is in the wrong as well.
He said the one thing he really should not have said. He needs to understand that his words carry a lot of weight. Rikuo knows Haru likes him, and also knows that him saying “It’s none of her business.”/“What does it matter to you anyway?” would rub Haru the wrong way, BUT he says it anyways knowing full well her feelings would be hurt. He lacks delicacy, and perhaps he doesn’t fully understand why she likes him so he makes light of her feelings.
Haru acted emotionally for sure, but Rikuo also should have chosen his words more carefully. As I said before, their relationship is complicated and they both aren’t perfect. Which makes it that much more engaging.

PaninaManina said:


He could, but he shouldn't.
Don't forget, Haru is there uninvited. Just because you likes someone does not give you the right to invite yourself into that someone's life and it belongs to you.
Every episode he remembers that of this, and Haru only gets worse, more possessive with time. She believes that passing time with he will won him over time but her behavior is not helping.

Ten said:
Meh. I don't like how they overreacted without knowing anything, besides, none of them has the right to be angry. He can do whatever he wants and even find a new girlfriend, he doesn't owe anything to them just because he confessed to Shinako and Haru confessed to him.

By the way, I liked Chika, she seems really nice, pity she's also so understanding, they seemed to be pretty comfortable living and eating together.

I hope we'll move on with the plot next time with already introduced characters, not another new one.

herrickluk said:

You’re grossly downplaying Haru as a character. I disagree with your opinion that Rikuo is not in the wrong as well, whereas all the blame is pinned on Haru. If you’ve noticed throughout the episodes, Rikuo has a problem with confronting issues that are hard for him, in fact he shrinks away from them.
He did it this episode when he avoided confronting Haru and ran away until she found him, he did it before when he never confessed to Shinako during school, he did when he never found a job after school. You’re making it sound like Haru is acting out of character but she isn’t. A relationship goes two ways, he’s avoiding confrontation and shrinking away from it, and Haru is the only one making an effort. You’re basing your entire view on Haru based on her emotional outburst from this episode which is incredibly shortsighted, while you downplay how little effort Rikuo has put in their complicated relationship. Haru is the only one trying to communicate, albeit she acted emotionally which is understandable.
You also totally forgot that Haru is the one who put herself out there and said to Rikuo she wanted him to know more about her in the previous episodes. They obviously care about each other or else he wouldn’t care to hide from her this episode, but he’s making no effort at all.
He could and he should.

PaninaManina said:


I didn't said that Haru was "acting out of character", Haru acting as expected from her is part of her problem.
Yes, Rikuo hid from her, but did you see how she entered the store already screaming? After they they sat to talk. This still wasn't enough for her and in the end she resorted to violence, no wonder that after one year of knowing her he now knows her well enough to know when to hide.

And dude, you're doing the same, tryin to twist all the faults to Rikuo.
Yes, Rikuo didn't confessed to Shinako when they studied together, he had not enough confidence and he could feel that she would reject him, that she would reject anyone. This happens, it's common, a story of the past to be remembered when old... But they meet again and he confessed to her. He was rejected, but Shinako gave him the opportunity to insist, and he is insisting. Rikuo is fighting for Shinako. Did you already forget the beginning of the episode? The niddle of the episode? The end of the episode? The previous episodes? Did you not see how they're meeting regularly for months now? There's this thing going on between Rikuo and Shinako and like you said, Haru "put herself out there", meaning that she forced herself in the middle their relationship to try to break it. Haru have not rights to complain because he isn't getting the attention she wants, that Rikuo is interacting and giving his attention to other people, not honoring her world that she expected nothing in return.
Rikuo did nothing wrong, it's just Haru that is unable to cope with her helpless situation.


This isn't much different from Shinako situation and all the criticism part of the public gives to her.
She owns nothing to Rikuo or Rou, they have no right to demand that she responds to their feelings. At least not for now.

Junchi said:

Count me in. I'm hoping we'll see Chika again later, because she's already better than Shinako and Haru combined.

PaninaManina said:




I laughed when "the joke fell flat".
This still happens in recent anime? And did this ever had "a bit of truth"?

Xelecus said:


Count me too ! I really loved her !