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| So, this anime teaches us why we don't elect high school students as government officials..... The non-pilot students piss me off so much. So naive and stupid to give up the pilots who worked so hard to fight for the students... They thought that the enemies would be happy with getting Haruto and let the students join their alliance? Idiots. Haruto should have bit Shoko after he got shot or something. Then he could fake his death and have them join their side again. Inuzuka. :( One of the only decent characters left. Hirieoshi said: PsychoThinker said: #YOLOWho picked Shouko as a leader? LOL. |
Esura said: But even as an aside from this, did anyone, aside from the president who's in cahoots with the Magius, think after seeing that Saki video and after shooting the first kid who did not get up afterwards that hmmmmm all these kids might not be immortal? That's stupidity on a whole 'nother level. They systematically slaughtered a bunch of children without so much as a question. I thought the same. OMG they are immortal vampire monsters that don't get killed so lets just shoot them and kill them. WHAT!!!? No one thought: "how come they actually die when we shoot them?" , lol. How stupid are they? I guess the explanation is that they were there to kill them anyway and the immortal monsters thing was just the excuse but where the simple soldiers on the trick too? Btw i really can't see how this show can end in 3 episodes considering the flashbacks etc. Should we expect a third season? |
MonadJan 7, 2014 5:13 AM
| I'm currently on Episode 9 and shouko is a b*tch since she betrayed haruto. Shouko is freaking useless and the JIOR government should have destroyed that ship when she was in it. I believe everyone is at fault expect the pilots and L-elf. Shouko has her own mind so in the end she makes her decisions and she didn't trust Haruto her childhood friend so f*ck her. |
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| starting to look a lot like Guilty Crown up in here now...everythings way too convenient, I liked the mass slaughter of children, but none of the soldiers thought that maybe they aren't all immortal after the first idk, 50 students didn't get back up? Lol, this show cuts more corners than GC ever did, that deserves an award... |
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| That purge, dumbest thing in a long, long time. As it's been said many times before, the moment they saw that the kids did not get up after getting shot they would have realized they were not immortal monster or whatever. I actually liked Shouko double crossing Haruto and admitting that you cannot save everyone. In anime people often insist on saving every single endangered person when it is obvious it will not work and paradoxically sacrifice the interests of millions for the sake of their personal feelings for a particular person. Sure, Shouko was very wrong and I do not particularly care for her but I liked her at least attempting to act like a prime minister for once. |
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| The power of misunderstandings. It was unsettling watching the kids getting gunned down. I know there's so many "what ifs" to be said here, but I've accepted that this is KakuKony Valvrape and asking for common sense would be an injustice to its foundations. Also using sound logic and reasoning isn't humanity's strongest point when under panic and pressure, so I'll let that one go. RIP Inuzuka, I had some serious Gundam Seed vibes with Shouko's shuttle but I'm glad it didn't go down that path. I can't really fault Shouko for her decision, to her that childhood memory must have been a sacred moment between them and the combination of learning he's no longer human must have just made her lose all faith. Also glad that Haruto does love Shouko, the marriage proposal from season 1 had me a bit worried that this was gonna turn into useless love triangle nonsense. |
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katsu044 said: this episode was fucked.. everyone losing their shit,you would think after a couple of dozen people killed the ARUSians would notice *hey they aren't coming back to life?..* then again rational thinking was non-existence in this episode for many reasons. honestly though this episode just fuels my rage for seeing Dorssia get destroyed This. I was literally pissed with this episode. countless have died meaningless deaths for a lie. I am livid! You would think after they killed the first child they would see that he is not coming back to life, therefore they all aren't monsters. I feel like this escalated too quickly. They didn't have any real evidence on hand, all they knew was that Saki was immortal, so does that automatically make everyone else the same as her? They showed the room where those adults were being killed but did they ever stop to search the module for this room. No they didn't. They just basically killed all these students based on an assumption and it pisses me off to no end. Taking a human life is no easy task and for that to happen I feel that concrete evidence should be given as to why they need to die. I just can't stomach this. Glad its so unreal |
lovexLuffyJan 27, 2014 10:53 PM
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| Garbage. That is all. |
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| So wait. Let me get this straight. You've been at war with dictatorship country for decades, they try to kill bunch of students, and when you decide to help those students that same dictatorship country shows you a video clip. Obviously this makes you forget everything those guys did so far and start killing students. Now, I don't mind bloodshed, but reasoning behind it was utterly retarded. Bye, bye rating. Imagine USA joining WW2 and Germany showing them a picture of British guy not dying after being shot...well, obviously USA would've joined Germans. Right? Right? This anime has been stupid at many points so far, but this...this was... |
| 5/5 How pissed off! The level of childishness lined up is appalling. This denotes the level of responsibility Which have to have kids. Perhaps, indeed are true words: To have faith is to believe without any proof! Poignant storytelling, this second season is aiming really high! * _ * Plot that brings an interesting evolution, not only people, but also the VVV are disappearing one by one, who will be next? I am sad for the end of senpai, Shoko deserves to be at the head of that jumble of fake friends! D: I'm so curious to see the next episode! :) |
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| WTF is this too one sided, how the hell eveyone just believe that damn dorssia president and start killing off students like that, just too stupid and i was fuckking let down, and y wont haruto explain anything about the fuckking ship phantom and that alien who now reside in dorssia army, this is just too CONVENIENT |
| ^ this ep might have just ruined the anime.. if i saw that immortal chick IRL, i would've said to myslef... fukking awesome.. where do I sign up to be one... instead of turning around and kill all them students instantly... fail logic is fail.. |
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| Wow, so this is what happens when L-elf is out of action. W/o L-elf, everyone ( well almost everyone) becomes seriously pathetic. Haruto was especially pathetic this time. His " Well......I'm Sorry" and " I...." and lots of "....." really pissed me off. Hey, instead of explain things right away, lets just waste time and say nothing, so that all the misunderstandings just makes matters worse........*sigh* Shoko doesnt deserve Haruto and Haruto doesnt deserve Saki. Although, when Haruto first said " I loved her", I was like "yay", since it was in the past tense, but meh w.e, at this point I'll just imagine that Haruto ends up with that blonde vice-president girl (forgot her name lol) than either Shoko or Saki. I bet if L-elf wasnt depressed, things wouldnt have nearly turned out as bad as they did, and nearly every misunderstanding would have been explained RIGHT away by him w/o any "I'm.....sorry"/ "I...." / "This.....is" / "............." ,etc. |
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| "Starts slowly, but surely hyperventilate) This....This....Holy shit!!! So Magnus secret plan Worked perfectly eh? Now we see one the biggest Truths of the Human Natures.... What you don't know beings that are different from Humans or if it is not same as normal human, We do not accept it. We are truly the most prejudiced race of all time. And one other Truth: People are very much all just mindless Sheep's, that believe everything that their leaders tell them.... So in Chaos, surviving Students got Mad, and sacrificed Haruto and by doinf that signed their Death Sentence, if it was Not Bravery and self sacrificing Nature of the Valvrave Pilots. How Stupid those Students could get if they truly believed that their Enemy, would keep their word about letting them Live? Inuzukaaa!!!!!! T.T You Truly were one the True Kind Man, May you Rest in Peace and I hope that you meet your Aina-chan in afterlife....*Sniff* Miss you already... |
JarjaxleMar 9, 2014 6:38 AM
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AdolTheRed said: Haruto was especially pathetic this time. His " Well......I'm Sorry" and " I...." and lots of "....." really pissed me off. Hey, instead of explain things right away, lets just waste time and say nothing, so that all the misunderstandings just makes matters worse........*sigh* This. This so fucking much. |
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| This episode freakin pissed me off!! All those students dying, then them calling the pilots "Monsters", then b"tch Shoko betrays Haruto and the others by selling them to the enemies, Haruto saying "I love her" despite her betrayal, then INUZUKA dying?!?!?! F*CK this episode!!! What I don't understand is who abducted those civilians and implanted them into the weird ship? It was ARUS right? Trying to set them up? |
You can just be yourself. Do things your own way, one step at a time. You'll get there. Just be yourself, you'll be fine." ~Fruit Basket |
| The situation sure went from "cautious optimism" to "total hell hole" really quickly. Having the plot moving forward is one thing, but I feel those extreme twists just cheapen an otherwise interesting story. Not unexpected since they were a few episodes like this in S1 too, and with only 3 episodes left. I just hope Sunrise had some feedback and avoids stunts like that in the future. At least I had no problem with the reactions of the characters given the situation. |
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| Holy shit! Talk about a massacre! Everyone was being killed. You do t think if they can't die one of the students would've got up? They're humans dumbasses! Shoko betrayed Haruto and sold him out! Damn! Senpai isacraficed himself for Haruto. Got to give it to him, Senpai sure is one hell of a nice guy. Go as far to even protect those who see him a monster. Great episode! |
| Haruto and the others constantly protected Module 77 and in now that the truth about the Valvraves is revealed Module 77 turns on them. How was Haruto and the group supposed to explain this and hope for a positive response. It would still be a lose/lose for them since either way Module 77 would view them as monsters. Shouko really got me mad this episode. Haruto always believed in her and she just throws away that kindness of Haruto because some old man told her to do it. She should know better than to trust ARUS. They literally said ALL of Module 77 would be purged, yes even Shouko. Damn, senpai died. He was one of my most liked Valvrave pilots |
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| So that ignorant ARUS leader was fooled into believing that the students are immortal monsters that can quickly regenerate their wounds.. so who gave that old fart the idea that shooting them would kill them? AND why for fuck's sake didn't he notice that the kids who got shot died!? like wtf dude if you think they're immortal don't you think that's fucking questionable? Also who told those fuckers that being immortal makes you a threat to mankind? the students in module 77 didn't attack anyone.. the Dorssian army invaded them first! they were only defending themselves. All of this shit happened because they hid that vampire thingy to the students of module 77... why in the name of logic did they hide that info? I was wondering that for so long. I'm pretty sure everyone can accept them being vampires, sucking blood from time to time at least because of that they can pilot those fucking valvraves that saved their skins from those fucking Dorssians that were trying to butcher them. And why can't Haruto explain to that bitch, Shouko that piloting a valvrave erases some memory? why? for those crucial minutes he wasted on thinking about some shitty childhood memory he forgot, he could've explained it to Shouko.. when that Iori asked Shouko to decide Haruto did nothing! he just looked at her! did he seriously think Shouko will take his side when she knows nothing!? what the fuck.. and Thunder was like "you didn't know what were fighting for this whole time" well no shit captain obvious she really does know nothing and why is that? because you guys didn't fucking tell her! when she's the leader of your fucked up country. Who do you think will defend your country to the other countries when some shit like this happened? it's her! Now one of the very few characters that makes sense has died... wait I thought they're immortal.. how.. well maybe the destruction of the valvrave will also cause the death of the pilot or something. Some episodes ago I said I can point out dozens of plot holes every episode..this time I decided to do so and these are some of them. Fuck! this show sucks donkey balls. Really frustrating smfh.. |
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| Wow powerful episode. The students were naive to believe that ARUS would let them live after they hand over Haruto. And that student massacre... |
| I rate this episode Tomino/10 This episode was full of feels, not just because of the total brutality of students being massacred on sight by ARUS and Dorissia but because Haruto lost one of his first memories with Shoko. Breaking through the wall at Shoko's command, another reason as to why Akira is my favorite character. I actually expected Kyuma Inuzuka to pull a Mu La Flaga when the cockpit of the shuttle Shoko and Iori was about to be obliterated by Dorssians, but it turned out that his trusty Beast High shields saved them. 2021 Rewatch |
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| I don't buy how everyone is so stupid to believe such shit. The first half of this episode did ruin the anime tbh. |
| Wow they pulled a Code Geass on this one. Inuzuka sacrificing, surprise it didn't overheated tbh. It'll be interesting how they'll end this in just 3 episodes. I feel that L-elf will do something clever. Can't wait for the next episode! |
| Everyone in this anime is a massive moron. So years of knowing each other, of going though trials and combat together is thrown away just like that? Pathetic. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
| at this point id say screw everyone valvraves against everyone |
| It's so dumb that one video will cause the president of ARUS to switch sides unless he was secretly allied with Dorssia? Inu-sempai. At least you're with Aina now. And Shoko? I'm dissapointed with you. In a lot of people. |
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| So even until the very end, Inuzuka plays wingman for Haruto, lol. But the fact that Haruto admits that he still likes Saki... laaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmeeeeeeeee. Shouko should just die. Even from the very first episode of season 1, I was hoping she would die. I still hope she does, but I doubt it now. Still waiting on that Saki x Haruto ship, but most likely Haruto's going to die by the looks of it, I mean his memories are starting to fade already, so he will soon as well. Guess that leaves Saki x L-Elf then, which I don't mind. Nonetheless, it's quite frustrating to watch how ARUS just turns against JIOR without knowing the truth, but I guess the fact that this anime has me feeling this way might be an indication that this anime is good. Guess we'll wait and see. |
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| Not even allowing Haruto and the other pilots to explain anything so they just get labelled as monsters, what a nice reaction from supposed friends and loved ones. |
| That was just stupid. Even if the president is a magius etc., that *everyone* falls in line like that. Only explanation is that everyone is brainwashed. Assuming that at like 5 people in ARUS know about magius (and thats generous, given that even e.g. K12 and the others don't know about it in Dorssia), they see a broadcast by Dorssia that supposedly proves that the Valvrave pilots are immortal. But: Dorssia just *hacked* that line. It was (officially) not set up. And: Dorssia is (officially) ARUS enemy. Why believe that without further prove? Next: If the broadcast is actually true, which they should very much doubt, it just has been proven that a sword through the heart doesn't kill them. Saki was shown to be fully conscious just a few seconds later. So how would shooting them actually help? I mean, it might be worth a try if you believe yourself in a trap by monsters, but they were like "They are immortal, lets kill them". And then that guy that was shot first didn't get up again. It wasn't even brought up! If before they were just following orders, the common soldier should have his doubts by now. They could always cover that up somehow, too, and order them to shoot the rest, but it wasn't even brought up. There's also a big leap between one person being (supposedly), per hacked video broadcast of your enemy) immortal, and all Valvrave pilots. And an even bigger one between Valvrave pilots and the whole population. Then the common population of Jior believing the Dorssian broadcast, too, despite their friends, class mates and relatives getting slaughtered by Dorssia and Jiors new ally ARUS. And they never had heard anything about the Phantom before, but immediately believed it belonged to the Valvrave pilots all along etc., despite the fact that e.g. the Valvraves haven't been kept secret, and that everyone knew how that all happened, how the pilots where chosen - or chose themselves. They basically discarded all knowledge, friends, memories they had to immediately believe some random guy that wasn't willing to help them for months/years, and the other random guy who attacked them out of nowhere and didn't stop since then. And when the guys slaughtering them after filmsy prove that they know isn't true offers them to spare them if they sell out the Valvrave pilots, they believe them. And later Shoko somehow fails to mention that they have to sell out all pilots. Or is Haruto enough? What exactly makes him special at that moment? They don't know that Valvrave pilots have special abilities, and they don't know that only Haruto has the urge to drink blood. Makes no sense to single him out at that moment. For Shoko, that they didn't tell her about the Phantom the moment they were back, and that Haruto still didn't tell her about his condition is a (barely) allevating circumstance for her behaviour, but for the general population this doesn't even factor in. That it all was a set up from the get go is always irrelevant, because it's about what the ordinary people do, soldier or not, and that nobody at all questioned any of those big holes in the story. Heck, even if every ARUS soldier attending that conference knew about it beforehand etc, which is extremly unlikely given that L-Elf and K-12 etc. don't know, that still doesn't explain how Iori etc. behaved. The council of 101 is also weird. They say they want to interfere as little as possible, while controlling at least both major natiions. They say they need to destroy JIOR because they are getting too close to the backstage, but they are only getting closer because the council is constantly interfering. The first attack was that started it all, and every further just makes it worse. Had they infiltrated JIOR silently ad shipped of the Valraves in standard shipping containers, nobody would be the wiser. But no, they decided using a fleet clearly from Dorssia was they way to go. Why they had to grab the Valvraves at that specific time, and not before or later is also left unanswered so far. Clearly they fail at not interfering. Overall just a mess story wise. Of course it was needed, things were going too well for JIOR, but all that could have been handled very differently. |
NwAurionMay 12, 2018 5:35 PM
| I was wondering when sunrise would pull this bullshit, this is so much more harsh then I can imagine tho damn. still tho fuck the ARUS, just like people to throw them under the bus when it's convenient for them and never try to find out the whole truth and just hear what they want. |
ZerityApr 6, 2020 9:07 PM
AlexTheRiot said: Goddammit Sunrise, you confirm Kyuuma for best character and then snake his ass like that...definitely went out like a champ though. Fuck Shoko. No bullshit justification either. Didn't even try to let him explain a damn thing, just jumped the gun and threw her childhood friend and love out to die because she's too emotional and a shit leader. She's always been naive, but after witnessing countless students getting shot in cold blood why would you trust a promise from the shooters? No matter how you look at it, Sunrise is setting her up to be at fault. facts, they did best boy in like that. I hate/love how sunrise always fucks all the characters lives in the last few eps XD I blame all the damn characters for their stupidity, granted they r just children still not even 18 yet but kids r to damn fucking emotional ffs |
| What a great episode. Holy shit, what a ride. Things just escalated so quick. Not sure I like Haruto still being in love with Shoko considering she sold him out with barely a few moments hesitation. Like, damn, at the very least wait for him to explain before you betray him lol |
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