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Dec 14, 2018 3:42 PM
#51
Frosty- said: Akihaa said: Not many people know this, but after Kumiko and Shuuichi dated in the novel, they actually broke up shortly after. Source? because the only thing that I have seen after searching for spoilers Kumiko confessed to Shuichi at the end of volume 3 Whereas volume 4 are mostly short stories, mainly featuring Yuuko/Natsuki. Either way it will be pretty hilarious if Kyoani does a complete change in tone now. https://twitter.com/iroirosasuga/status/984596391120039936?s=21 you can check out this thread that has a Japanese fan's tentative translation on the details about Kumiko and Shuuichi's relationship in regards to what happens between them near the beginning of the second year novels and the premise of their breakup. To get to the point, a line from the novel is: "この日、久美子と秀一は恋人同士ではなくなった。" Which means in English: "On this day, Kumiko and Shuuichi were no longer lovers." Iroiro says in the novel that, "Kumiko is going to be the new president, so she wants to concentrate on that alone, and until then she puts distance with [Shuuichi]." You'd be hard pressed to find pdf's of the novel which hasn't been released outside of Japan yet to confirm unless you buy them yourself, so for now this is the best we're going to get in terms of what information western fandom has access to for the content beyond the anime. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post and added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
DeadlyRavenJan 26, 2019 8:03 PM
Dec 14, 2018 9:56 PM
#52
Akihaa said: Frosty- said: Akihaa said: Not many people know this, but after Kumiko and Shuuichi dated in the novel, they actually broke up shortly after. Source? because the only thing that I have seen after searching for spoilers Kumiko confessed to Shuichi at the end of volume 3 Whereas volume 4 are mostly short stories, mainly featuring Yuuko/Natsuki. Either way it will be pretty hilarious if Kyoani does a complete change in tone now. https://twitter.com/iroirosasuga/status/984596391120039936?s=21 you can check out this thread that has a Japanese fan's tentative translation on the details about Kumiko and Shuuichi's relationship in regards to what happens between them near the beginning of the second year novels and the premise of their breakup. To get to the point, a line from the novel is: "この日、久美子と秀一は恋人同士ではなくなった。" Which means in English: "On this day, Kumiko and Shuuichi were no longer lovers." Iroiro says in the novel that, "Kumiko is going to be the new president, so she wants to concentrate on that alone, and until then she puts distance with [Shuuichi]." You'd be hard pressed to find pdf's of the novel which hasn't been released outside of Japan yet to confirm unless you buy them yourself, so for now this is the best we're going to get in terms of what information western fandom has access to for the content beyond the anime. Very vague wordings, especially the part "until then she puts distance with [Shuuichi]." Hope someone does a full summary someday because this clearly needs more context. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post and added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
DeadlyRavenJan 26, 2019 8:03 PM
Dec 16, 2018 12:40 AM
#53
Akihaa said: Frosty- said: Akihaa said: Not many people know this, but after Kumiko and Shuuichi dated in the novel, they actually broke up shortly after. Source? because the only thing that I have seen after searching for spoilers Kumiko confessed to Shuichi at the end of volume 3 Whereas volume 4 are mostly short stories, mainly featuring Yuuko/Natsuki. Either way it will be pretty hilarious if Kyoani does a complete change in tone now. https://twitter.com/iroirosasuga/status/984596391120039936?s=21 you can check out this thread that has a Japanese fan's tentative translation on the details about Kumiko and Shuuichi's relationship in regards to what happens between them near the beginning of the second year novels and the premise of their breakup. To get to the point, a line from the novel is: "この日、久美子と秀一は恋人同士ではなくなった。" Which means in English: "On this day, Kumiko and Shuuichi were no longer lovers." Iroiro says in the novel that, "Kumiko is going to be the new president, so she wants to concentrate on that alone, and until then she puts distance with [Shuuichi]." You'd be hard pressed to find pdf's of the novel which hasn't been released outside of Japan yet to confirm unless you buy them yourself, so for now this is the best we're going to get in terms of what information western fandom has access to for the content beyond the anime. This all seems a bit weird as to why they start dating and then shortly after break up with the reasoning to focus on music and her position as president, but we all know that she is not the president?! As u said , I take it its from volume 4 novels , which is during her 2nd year where Yuuko is the president. So it doesn't make sense to me. I hope that at least in the movie we get a detailed explanation of their relationship, cus from what I heard from novel so far is really weird and doesn't make sense, but makes me upset instead cus its ruining the show for me, either leave romance out of this or pull it through. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post and added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
DeadlyRavenJan 26, 2019 8:03 PM
Dec 16, 2018 2:22 AM
#54
Sneakynation said: This all seems a bit weird as to why they start dating and then shortly after break up with the reasoning to focus on music and her position as president, but we all know that she is not the president?! As u said , I take it its from volume 4 novels , which is during her 2nd year where Yuuko is the president. So it doesn't make sense to me. I hope that at least in the movie we get a detailed explanation of their relationship, cus from what I heard from novel so far is really weird and doesn't make sense, but makes me upset instead cus its ruining the show for me, either leave romance out of this or pull it through. Actually there's been a bit of speculation as to why Takeda, the author, made it so that Shuuichi and Kumiko "dated" at the end of the first year novel. Hibike Euphonium is actually one of her earlier works when it first released, so it's speculated that she made them get together due to production/editorial pressure. She was actually never planning on writing continuing novels after Kumiko's first year of high school, but decided to continue her tale when the anime got popular by kyoani. As for the president thing, I assumed that it was because she's planning on becoming president in the following year, but again as western non japanese speakers doesn't have access to concrete information we can only get it through english speaking japanese fans or japanese speaking english fans. And I agree it's quite confusing and can be upsetting, especially if you're rooting for Kumirei. But I'm sure Takeda is doing her best to set things right for Kumiko and co. Mod Edit: Modified quote of edited post and added spoiler tags; please hide plot details. |
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Dec 17, 2018 5:43 PM
#55
KumiRei is the favorite ship of aprox. 95% of fan base, but unfortunately this movie will make the ship sink. |
Dec 26, 2018 11:25 AM
#56
Meanwhile, indirect kiss. |
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Dec 26, 2018 6:22 PM
#57
Welcome back I missed your posts |
Dec 27, 2018 7:14 AM
#58
@Akihaa Speculations are a bad thing, especially when they concern shiping. I still remember the fan theories that Kumiko is a lesbian, she was allegedly “just convinced” that she likes a guy. In any case, I read the dialogue you indicated, rather it says that they temporarily broke up because of Kumiko's “egoism” than they did at all. She even invites him to dating with her again when she becomes president. |
Dec 27, 2018 7:25 PM
#59
That's not how it went but close, nonetheless. Coming back to the movie, the PV will air in little over three hours from now. Precisely in 3 hours and 35 minutes from now! |
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Dec 27, 2018 7:40 PM
#60
@shanimebib In any case, there is clearly noticeable subtle emphasis on "temporarily" and "if you still love me, then invite me". Forsed romantic drama so forsed. If it really turns out to be the Kumiko x Shuichi movie, then I have to go to the bunker. Well, you understand. |
Dec 27, 2018 8:38 PM
#61
landofthekwt said: Welcome back I missed your posts Thanks. When I saw chapter 699 I couldn't hold back my excitement and just posted here in MAL after almost half a year. :) RobertBobert said: If it really turns out to be the Kumiko x Shuichi movie, then I have to go to the bunker. Well, you understand. Let's not get into spoilers in the open, shall we? Besides, the biggest role for Shuichi will be in Kumiko's third year (the books will be available soon). This may not come across to western fans, but Shuichi is more popular amongst Japanese fans than they think he is. - The hints were already there ever since S2 so I am not sure what's all the displeasure about it. It's not something new. For instance, this official poster that came with the BD/DVD Vol. 5. of S2 that was adored by Japanese fans. Why would she bother to wear that while at home and apparently trying to find excuses with cactus-kun in her hand? - Why would Kyoani make the Kitauji quartet spend almost half of their seiyuu meet discussing Shuichi's character, his good points and his relationship with Kumiko more than a year back (Sep 2017), before the release of Todoketai Melody? Why do you think they would do that before a movie that was meant to be about Asuka and Kumiko? - Even the previous key visual with fist bumps was tremendously received in twitter amongst Japanese fans (I am not gonna mention the western ones because some of them put us to shame with their derogatory tweets in the official twitter). - If that's not enough, he got the most number of likes in twitter amongst the 5 year 2 students. Yeah, more than Kumiko, perhaps after how things in year 2 unfolded. The number of likes he got was only shaded by Asuka amongst all the returning casts. - And we all know who will became the 'vice president' of the club in year 3. (If you have missed this post, it lists things that got changed in the anime w.r.t. the novel. And it also actually touches upon as to why he got selected as the VP in the third year.) Also, all the drama related to romance was pretty believable. And if done right, it will be very good. But the focus will be on music and less on romance if anything, because the romance drama started from music. Whether KyoAni wants to keep them as is is entirely up to them. But Ishihara and Yamada both revealed in the past that they expected Kumiko to end up with Shuichi who Takeda described as someone Kumiko really needs being a difficult person she is. But yeah, let's not just talk about those things because they don't go well with the western fanbase. I have posted more in AS but I will refrain from doing so because part of the reason I frequent MAL less these days because I am tired of the forum being full of toxic fans who would ridicule you for no apparent reason even if you are stating the facts and trying to give reasonable arguments. |
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Dec 28, 2018 1:38 AM
#62
@shanimebib Oh, thanks for the detailed post! Well, what do you want if some fans openly write that any arch without Kumiko x Reina is "bad writing", just because it does not add ship tease to their ship? I can understand people who perceive Liz as subtle romance and refer to Yamada’s words as her semi-official ship of these two, but it really annoys me when people consider romance as the sole cause of absolutely any events in Eupho and therefore, any departure from KumiRei in the second season as "homophobia and destruction of the show". |
Dec 29, 2018 7:01 AM
#63
I do hope this movie will get things right. Hibike! Euphonium started very well in the first season. I liked how the club was presented, how Kumiko spent her free time with Hazuki, Sapphire and Shuuichi. I thought it was a good show about music and friendship. But then they decided to focus on Reina and that queerbaiting ruined everything. If they expected Kumiko to end up with Shuuichi why did they added so much suggestive scenes between Kumiko and Reina? Kyo Ani loves putting fan service to attract people but what was the point? They've ruined the show with it and now they're trying to fix things up? Since I didn't like how the anime went I'll be watching Chikai no Finale as an individual movie that (hopefully) focuses on music AND friendship. I really hope we will see more about Shuuichi,Hazuki, Sapphire and the new characters. Because Reina got enough screentime and she's also irritating. |
Dec 29, 2018 8:56 AM
#64
Kirie-san said: If they expected Kumiko to end up with Shuuichi why did they added so much suggestive scenes between Kumiko and Reina? Kyo Ani loves putting fan service to attract people but what was the point? They've ruined the show with it and now they're trying to fix things up? I am not sure why you seem to know the answer but asking the same in the form of a question. It's nothing new. Any studio does that. However, unlike the popular claims, KyoAni pulled the plug on yuri the moment Reina revealed she was in love with Taki-sensei. Also, Reina has been well aware of the fact that Kumiko liked Shuichi romantically ever since Kumiko tightened her grip on Reina's arm witnessing Shuichi about to be snatched away from her by Hazuki. It is the reason why she constantly brought up the subject. Even before their first and foremost intimate scene when she broke the ice between them by touching Kumiko's lips, she mentioned about the festival because she knew Kumiko's mind was wavering there because at that same moment Shuichi was spending time with Hazuki in that festival. Reina wanted Kumiko to open up to her as she wanted to open up to Kumiko, too. The reason why she constantly brought up Shuichi was because she opened up to Kumiko that she liked ('like' as in 'love') Taki-sensei and wanted Kumiko to do the same. The wanting to peel the mask off of Kumiko is also because of that. Although, the one who did that was Asuka. Also, fans seem to constantly forget why Reina disliked Shuichi. She caught him talking negatively about Taki-sensei with Kumiko. But she only heard half of the conversation when Shuichi was, and rightly so, defending Reina, part of the conversation she didn't hear. Fans need to pay more attention to why certain characters behave certain ways in this anime. Those are not just random. |
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Dec 30, 2018 5:10 AM
#65
shanimebib said: Kirie-san said: If they expected Kumiko to end up with Shuuichi why did they added so much suggestive scenes between Kumiko and Reina? Kyo Ani loves putting fan service to attract people but what was the point? They've ruined the show with it and now they're trying to fix things up? I am not sure why you seem to know the answer but asking the same in the form of a question. It's nothing new. Any studio does that. However, unlike the popular claims, KyoAni pulled the plug on yuri the moment Reina revealed she was in love with Taki-sensei. Also, Reina has been well aware of the fact that Kumiko liked Shuichi romantically ever since Kumiko tightened her grip on Reina's arm witnessing Shuichi about to be snatched away from her by Hazuki. It is the reason why she constantly brought up the subject. Even before their first and foremost intimate scene when she broke the ice between them by touching Kumiko's lips, she mentioned about the festival because she knew Kumiko's mind was wavering there because at that same moment Shuichi was spending time with Hazuki in that festival. Reina wanted Kumiko to open up to her as she wanted to open up to Kumiko, too. The reason why she constantly brought up Shuichi was because she opened up to Kumiko that she liked ('like' as in 'love') Taki-sensei and wanted Kumiko to do the same. The wanting to peel the mask off of Kumiko is also because of that. Although, the one who did that was Asuka. Also, fans seem to constantly forget why Reina disliked Shuichi. She caught him talking negatively about Taki-sensei with Kumiko. But she only heard half of the conversation when Shuichi was, and rightly so, defending Reina, part of the conversation she didn't hear. Fans need to pay more attention to why certain characters behave certain ways in this anime. Those are not just random. Yes, Reina said that she was in love with Taki. And with her attitude toward Kumiko shows that she wants her to open to her BUT what was the point to show her touching her lips, taking her face, getting so intimate with her? Even best friends doesn't act like that so either it was useless fan service either they were implying the show was going on the Kumiko x Reina route. I didn't like this fan service and I didn't like how the show went because since Kumiko became friend with Reina we don't get to see the others and I prefered the friendship between Kumiko, Hazuki, Sapphire and Shuuichi rather that the friendship between Kumiko and Reina. Moreover, due to her attitude, I couldn't like Reina. It seemed for me that she's the kind of people who acts mature while she's just a teenager who doesn't know anything about life. She speaks bad about Shuuichi without knowing the whole context. I mean if she was really mature she would ask why he is talking like that about Taki. Dislike people for a reason like that... jeez... During the whole her character doesn't evolve at all (in season 2 she still talk bad about Shuuichi). I can't really enjoy a show if one of the main character is annoying and Reina is the kind of person I want to slap. And what Kyo Ani did with the Kumiko - Reina didn't help me to enjoy it more. At first I really thought that this could be a really good anime but it went downhill since the emphasis on Kumiko and Reina relationship. That's why I hope this new movie will get things right. Anyway, that's just my personal opinion. |
Jan 4, 2019 8:21 AM
#66
shanimebib said: landofthekwt said: Welcome back I missed your posts Thanks. When I saw chapter 699 I couldn't hold back my excitement and just posted here in MAL after almost half a year. :) RobertBobert said: If it really turns out to be the Kumiko x Shuichi movie, then I have to go to the bunker. Well, you understand. Let's not get into spoilers in the open, shall we? Besides, the biggest role for Shuichi will be in Kumiko's third year (the books will be available soon). This may not come across to western fans, but Shuichi is more popular amongst Japanese fans than they think he is. - The hints were already there ever since S2 so I am not sure what's all the displeasure about it. It's not something new. For instance, this official poster that came with the BD/DVD Vol. 5. of S2 that was adored by Japanese fans. Why would she bother to wear that while at home and apparently trying to find excuses with cactus-kun in her hand? - Why would Kyoani make the Kitauji quartet spend almost half of their seiyuu meet discussing Shuichi's character, his good points and his relationship with Kumiko more than a year back (Sep 2017), before the release of Todoketai Melody? Why do you think they would do that before a movie that was meant to be about Asuka and Kumiko? - Even the previous key visual with fist bumps was tremendously received in twitter amongst Japanese fans (I am not gonna mention the western ones because some of them put us to shame with their derogatory tweets in the official twitter). - If that's not enough, he got the most number of likes in twitter amongst the 5 year 2 students. Yeah, more than Kumiko, perhaps after how things in year 2 unfolded. The number of likes he got was only shaded by Asuka amongst all the returning casts. - And we all know who will became the 'vice president' of the club in year 3. (If you have missed this post, it lists things that got changed in the anime w.r.t. the novel. And it also actually touches upon as to why he got selected as the VP in the third year.) Also, all the drama related to romance was pretty believable. And if done right, it will be very good. But the focus will be on music and less on romance if anything, because the romance drama started from music. Whether KyoAni wants to keep them as is is entirely up to them. But Ishihara and Yamada both revealed in the past that they expected Kumiko to end up with Shuichi who Takeda described as someone Kumiko really needs being a difficult person she is. But yeah, let's not just talk about those things because they don't go well with the western fanbase. I have posted more in AS but I will refrain from doing so because part of the reason I frequent MAL less these days because I am tired of the forum being full of toxic fans who would ridicule you for no apparent reason even if you are stating the facts and trying to give reasonable arguments. Aikawarazu... you only see the hints that interest you. If you have also read the latest 3 novels (so it seems, as for your "love" and "Iike" reference) even in them you have hints in both directions. And then you too know that Kumiko's feelings towards Shuuichi are not resolved, right? |
Jan 6, 2019 4:48 AM
#67
Warui no desu ka?! Doesn't everyone do that?! It's Kumiko's fault for giving me the signals! Like she gave Shuichi before the Agata festival lol! :P Of course I know. But that is not why I am eagerly waiting for the new books. He will be promoted from being 'Kumiko no Koibito' to 'Kita Uji Suisougaku-bu no Fukubuchou' in the upcoming novels. If you can't tell already, as a fan of Shuichi, I am ecstatic! Over the moon, actually! :) |
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Jan 8, 2019 3:21 PM
#68
shanimebib said: Warui no desu ka?! Doesn't everyone do that?! It's Kumiko's fault for giving me the signals! Like she gave Shuichi before the Agata festival lol! :P Of course I know. But that is not why I am eagerly waiting for the new books. He will be promoted from being 'Kumiko no Koibito' to 'Kita Uji Suisougaku-bu no Fukubuchou' in the upcoming novels. If you can't tell already, as a fan of Shuichi, I am ecstatic! Over the moon, actually! :) Warui koto ja nain dakedo... Kumiko no sei nara, wakatta. You don't have to do like everyone else, thought. I don't know why (unlucky you) I have a better standard of you XD. And because hints is exactly the thing that there is in mass quantity in eupho. If you are able to see those on the Shuuichi shoes you also have to be able to read the ones that don't go to Shuuichi side, sore dake :P. About Shuuichi, wakatta, I can see that. This is a good promotion. Now he plays a role for himself. I'm not a big Shuuichi fan but I liked this. Hontou ni kore ha sugoi to omotta. |
Jan 8, 2019 3:44 PM
#69
If my ship doesn't go anywhere in this Movie, someone about to get an ass kicking in Kyoani. |
Jan 25, 2019 12:21 AM
#70
Kurosawa Tomoyo and Anzai Chika sure know how to tease Kumiko and Shuichi, eh? :P These girls are so funny! I love them! <3 |
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Jan 25, 2019 1:21 AM
#71
JohnDowson said: 4 ? Explain, I only see 3.........> tfw Hibike! is getting 4 movies on top of two seasons > and Haruhi franchise only got one movie and a retarded spin-off based on Yuki-centered fanfiction Why can't KyoAni give us what we really want? |
Jan 25, 2019 1:51 AM
#72
Kuraya said: JohnDowson said: 4 ? Explain, I only see 3.........> tfw Hibike! is getting 4 movies on top of two seasons > and Haruhi franchise only got one movie and a retarded spin-off based on Yuki-centered fanfiction Why can't KyoAni give us what we really want? Of course the fourth has not been released yet. Kitauji Koukou Suisougaku-bu e Youkoso Todoketai Melody Liz to Aoi Tori Chikai no Finale |
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Jan 25, 2019 1:52 AM
#73
shanimebib said: OOOOH, you ment Liz to Aoi Tori too, thanks for the assistanceKuraya said: JohnDowson said: > tfw Hibike! is getting 4 movies on top of two seasons > and Haruhi franchise only got one movie and a retarded spin-off based on Yuki-centered fanfiction Why can't KyoAni give us what we really want? Of course the fourth has not been released yet. Kitauji Koukou Suisougaku-bu e Youkoso Todoketai Melody Liz to Aoi Tori Chikai no Finale |
Jan 25, 2019 2:04 AM
#74
Kuraya said: OOOOH, you ment Liz to Aoi Tori too, thanks for the assistance There's a high chance of further adaptations though. Kyoto Animation seems to have soft spots for Hibike! franchise and I won't be surprised if the final two volumes are adapted into a movie or a TV series. |
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Feb 2, 2019 2:30 AM
#75
This is for pair tickets! Absolutely magical! ❤ I think we will have sold-outs! |
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Feb 18, 2019 7:31 AM
#76
If only it shows in my country, I'm so excited to watch it and also I've been waiting so long that Kumiko and Shuichi relationship " I was hoping there will be like Tamako love story" |
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Feb 19, 2019 9:36 AM
#77
Worinof said: If only it shows in my country, I'm so excited to watch it and also I've been waiting so long that Kumiko and Shuichi relationship " I was hoping there will be like Tamako love story" It probably will not and should not go TLS route because unlike Tamako, who is like an apple pie, and Mochizou, who is like a fruitcake, Kumiko is more or less a tiramisu and Shuuichi is basically a cinnamon bread. Their personalities are way too different from the other two to give us a cute and fluffy romance like TLS. nb. it was your first post in MAL and I liked it. :) |
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Mar 21, 2019 1:30 AM
#78
As long as the movie is entertaining and delivers on feels I am going to be happy regardless of the direction the story and character relationships are going to take :) |
Mar 21, 2019 5:14 AM
#79
pacmanyo said: As long as the movie is entertaining and delivers on feels I am going to be happy regardless of the direction the story and character relationships are going to take :) Ah~ the positivity that we need! Thank you. :) |
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Mar 22, 2019 6:38 PM
#80
Latest preview is out |
Oct 23, 2019 3:55 AM
#81
Less than 2 weeks for the BD/DVD to come out. |
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Oct 23, 2019 1:11 PM
#82
shanimebib said: Less than 2 weeks for the BD/DVD to come out. Is it possible for you to link a source, because I have been looking everywhere for weeks and all I could find was that reddit post which was deleted and some rumors that because of the fire the blu ray might be delayed until 2020. Thanks. |
Oct 23, 2019 1:27 PM
#83
anime-prime said: shanimebib said: Less than 2 weeks for the BD/DVD to come out. Is it possible for you to link a source, because I have been looking everywhere for weeks and all I could find was that reddit post which was deleted and some rumors that because of the fire the blu ray might be delayed until 2020. Thanks. I guess the rumour is right. The original news of the released date has been removed from the official site. The only news I found is on the Keihan collaboration plan. |
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Oct 23, 2019 1:32 PM
#84
shanimebib said: anime-prime said: shanimebib said: Less than 2 weeks for the BD/DVD to come out. Is it possible for you to link a source, because I have been looking everywhere for weeks and all I could find was that reddit post which was deleted and some rumors that because of the fire the blu ray might be delayed until 2020. Thanks. I guess the rumour is right. The original news of the released date has been removed from the official site. The only news I found is on the Keihan collaboration plan. I found this but who knows where it could is from or the validity of the source. https://twitter.com/zmmianne/status/1186986949938012160 |
Oct 23, 2019 1:48 PM
#85
anime-prime said: shanimebib said: anime-prime said: shanimebib said: Less than 2 weeks for the BD/DVD to come out. Is it possible for you to link a source, because I have been looking everywhere for weeks and all I could find was that reddit post which was deleted and some rumors that because of the fire the blu ray might be delayed until 2020. Thanks. I guess the rumour is right. The original news of the released date has been removed from the official site. The only news I found is on the Keihan collaboration plan. I found this but who knows where it could is from or the validity of the source. https://twitter.com/zmmianne/status/1186986949938012160 Nope. It's unconfirmed. The original release date was Nov 5, 2019 so it's using that as the countdown. The official website has removed the date from BD/DVD page. |
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