| Nah, this season is overral the best until now. |
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| Of course. But that happens for literally every sequel ever by default so no point complaining about it. It's a natural phenomenon |
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Absolutely not. This season has a been a blast so far. Although it also seems to be on the positive list of soe boosting accounts, which easily affects shows with low viewer numbers. HaXXspetten said: Of course. But that happens for literally every sequel ever by default so no point complaining about it. It's a natural phenomenon Doesn't really count for Symphogear. Ratings are pretty low for sequals and season 3 even has a lower score than season 2. Also don't judge what you aren't watching. |
Sury said: You're missing the pointHaXXspetten said: Of course. But that happens for literally every sequel ever by default so no point complaining about it. It's a natural phenomenon Doesn't really count for Symphogear. Ratings are pretty low for sequals and season 3 even has a lower score than season 2. Also don't judge what you aren't watching. Imagine for a second that you had an anime with two seasons. For argument's sake, let's say they have the same episode count and that they have the exact same level of quality. In that situation, the second season will have a higher MAL score 100% of the time, without exception. That is simply how it works as a direct result of the people that didn't like season one either dropping it there already or at least deciding to skip out on the second season Now in reality a sequel will probably not have the exact same level of quality as the first one, but that's beside the point, because the same phenomenon occurs regardless. The second season might be better and it might be worse, which in turn might lead to its MAL score being either higher or lower than the first season. But either way it is still overrated in the sense that the mere fact that it is a sequel has boosted its score to some extent, however small it may be Or to put it simply, regardless of the content matter of the show itself, the mere fact that an anime entry is a sequel will automatically give it a higher score than it would've had if it wasn't a sequel. The only thing that's really up for debate here is what exactly people mean when they use the word "overrated" as there are a few different possible interpretations of it. But if you're referring to the fact that being a sequel will artificially inflate an anime's score on MAL then yes, it would mean it's a bit overrated. Mind you that doesn't mean it's bad, but overrated nonetheless. But yes for a series such as symphogear the viewership numbers will drop pretty slowly since we're already at season five so it's probably a very small amount of impact at this stage |
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| Actually you’d expect most sequels to be lower in quality. This isn’t the case of Symphogear. The MAL score isn’t by any means a fluke, regardless of the situation. |
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| I'm sure by the 5th season, only people who liked it enough to watch the previous 4 will be watching it, so it'll get a higher score. |
| There are also counter-examples, such as Index III (from 7.74 for Index II dropping to 6.81), so a more accurate answer would be that as long as the studio does not make something worse, it will increase (be "non-decreasing" for mathematicians...). An example that I like for this kind of things is Natsume Yuuchinchou, going from 8.38 in the first season to 8.70 in the fourth one, to drop below the level of the third season (8.63) in the last season (8.62). Actually seasons 2, 3 and 5 have almost the same average, and in my opinion it reflects the fact that there are no big changes in the overall qualities throughout the different seasons. Also Symphogear does not seem to be followed by so many people so hype can be put aside for this time (remember the beginning of Stein; Gate 0 way above 9). For Natsume too the hype does not seem to be an issue. Otherwise avoid saying this to SnK fans^^ |
| 2012 wasn't Symphogear's year of goodness, but each year helped it grow stronger and made itself popular. |
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| It's the final season so it's going off with literally everything it has bringing back all the old time memorable moments for the hardcore fans, tying up loose ends and doing its absolute best to send off this underappreciated series for a grand finale. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
abystoma2 said: Actually this is also one of the entries that got boosted by bot adn MAL still hasn't resolved it. There’s no proof of that. |
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| @Ryuseishun no its true if u take 3 seconds to look. This dude name GinGabooster had made 87 accounts last time i checked and maybe more now and he has given this show a 10 each time and that is only 1 person doing it. He is also the reason many new manga/LN r high up on the manga list like the sakura quest |
Zerity said: @Ryuseishun no its true if u take 3 seconds to look. This dude name GinGabooster had made 87 accounts last time i checked and maybe more now and he has given this show a 10 each time and that is only 1 person doing it. He is also the reason many new manga/LN r high up on the manga list like the sakura quest It's 107 now and I'm not a dude. Note: It was even 8.10 before I started to boosting it. Note 2: I'm not the only reason on the manga list. All of these mangas were 8.80+ before me. |
NacremAug 24, 2019 7:17 PM
| @Nacrem nani ur the ginga guy???? also not true, there were other people boosting XV before u and same with the manga entries, there a lot of them so its like dumb. if i was running this website i would just temporarily turn off all ratings. but cause im not i dont bother do even look at the leader boards anymore cause its just dumb now |
Zerity said: @Nacrem nani ur the ginga guy???? also not true, there were other people boosting XV before u and same with the manga entries, there a lot of them so its like dumb. if i was running this website i would just temporarily turn off all ratings. but cause im not i dont bother do even look at the leader boards anymore cause its just dumb now Yes, I'm the GingaGirl. Also other manga/Symphogear boosters are downvoting TOP 100 anime and TOP 50 manga. I'm boosting Sakura Quest so mods can ban all Sakura Quest boosters. At least I was think like that but looks like mods don't give a fuck about top lists. |
Zerity said: @Ryuseishun no its true if u take 3 seconds to look. This dude name GinGabooster had made 87 accounts last time i checked and maybe more now and he has given this show a 10 each time and that is only 1 person doing it. He is also the reason many new manga/LN r high up on the manga list like the sakura quest It’s still getting 8.00 at least even when that’s addressed, whether or not the difference will be that substantial or not. Keep in mind that the majority people don’t tend to add a score until the anime is completed. |
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Nacrem said: Zerity said: @Nacrem nani ur the ginga guy???? also not true, there were other people boosting XV before u and same with the manga entries, there a lot of them so its like dumb. if i was running this website i would just temporarily turn off all ratings. but cause im not i dont bother do even look at the leader boards anymore cause its just dumb now Yes, I'm the GingaGirl. Also other manga/Symphogear boosters are downvoting TOP 100 anime and TOP 50 manga. I'm boosting Sakura Quest so mods can ban all Sakura Quest boosters. At least I was think like that but looks like mods don't give a fuck about top lists. Way to murder a miracle, dude.....lol Tbf, there are boosters for practically almost every single notable anime series out there, though. I don’t see how there isn’t a possibility, so people shouldn’t act like this is a rare case at all :P |
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Ryuseishun said: Nacrem said: Yes, I'm the GingaGirl. Also other manga/Symphogear boosters are downvoting TOP 100 anime and TOP 50 manga. I'm boosting Sakura Quest so mods can ban all Sakura Quest boosters. At least I was think like that but looks like mods don't give a fuck about top lists. Way to murder a miracle, dude.....lol Tbf, there are boosters for practically almost every single notable anime series out there, though. I don’t see how there isn’t a possibility, so people shouldn’t act like this is a rare case at all :P This is a rare case because all top animes got downvoted by 0.01-0.10 |
Nacrem said: Ryuseishun said: Way to murder a miracle, dude.....lol Tbf, there are boosters for practically almost every single notable anime series out there, though. I don’t see how there isn’t a possibility, so people shouldn’t act like this is a rare case at all :P This is a rare case because all top animes got downvoted by 0.01-0.10 Well I guess it’s rare, but let’s not forget the shenanigans with the SnK 3 part 2 temporarily taking #1 spot and FMAB falling by 0.14 at one point....that was quite recent. I’m not gonna let it deter my enjoyment of the show, though. I honestly think this season is the best so far and deserves at least baseline 8.00. On a side note, the mods not being as attentive as they should be is rather unsettling. |
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| I mean. This show has evolved from a quirky, dumb, but fun show with no budget in S1, to a quirky, dumb, over the top, hype show with more and more money and backing, leading up to the final season, where they're actually holding back nothing, and pulling on everyones favorite parts of the old seasons. Latest episodes final fight is basically a giant gurren lagann reference, and brings back a character from season 2 of this show in the hypest way possible. As a kicker, the animation is superb. I mean seriously, go check out the finale of this episode, it's gorgeous. Season 5 is doing everything right so far. It's the wildest ride I've ever been on for any show. It's getting harder to tell people to watch symphogear now that it has so many seasons. But if people can still tell me to watch one piece, I'll keep shouting watch symphogear from the rooftops at the top of my lungs, because damn the payoff is worth it. |
| It's weird to see a booster replying on the forums |
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Heimur said: It's weird to see a booster replying on the forums Well, as long as other boosters/downvoters get banned with me I have no problem. |
| Just chiming in to say that I started the series a couple of days ago per the recommendation of a friend. The first episode of season 2 alone was better than all of S1—not even kidding. Apparently, every new season one-ups the previous installment by a considerable margin. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing why this is one of the most popular shows in Japan.. S1 kinda sucked ass, but it's starting to look promising now. ^_^ |
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Greyleaf said: Just chiming in to say that I started the series a couple of days ago per the recommendation of a friend. The first episode of season 2 alone was better than all of S1—not even kidding. Apparently, every new season one-ups the previous installment by a considerable margin. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing why this is one of the most popular shows in Japan.. S1 kinda sucked ass, but it's starting to look promising now. ^_^ That's why I've stated that the current score is just about right even with the whole booster thing. This final season is practically going back to almost everything brought into question from the previous seasons. |
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| MAL scored said that Symphogear XV is the 2nd best season of summer and that's pretty good because back when season 1 to 4 happen, nobody cared to even watch it. |
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| I'd say yes and no, of course S1 weighs in a lot of the scores of those who ended up dropping it, but i doubt many people dropped it during S2 and onwards as not only did most people drop it in S1, but S2 and onward gained increased budget and were just better in general compared to S1 (i'd even say that S1 should not be above a 7 at all). And if you compare the XV score to S2-4, theres still a major difference in score. This season is just that much better. |
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You all need to watch Nami. |
Nacrem said: Heimur said: It's weird to see a booster replying on the forums Well, as long as other boosters/downvoters get banned with me I have no problem. Sorry, but I cannot help but wonder why did you start to boost anime series? Modifying some rankings on some websites by plus or minus 0.1 will not change anything about the number of people who will get interesting in the works in question (considering that they are basing themselves on this unreliable indicator). Of course it does not say much about the quality of the shows themselves, so what the point? Furthermore, it gives a bad image of the community (remember the recent SnK case recalled by Ryuseishun above). I guess that people became obsessed with grades, performance and rankings these days. |
MeusnierAug 25, 2019 7:14 AM
Idc Ginga fandom, most of them are too sniffy. |
| I mean Symphgear has always been kinda shit in terms of plot, but man does it get hype. I also think this is the final season so they are really going all out. |
ProofByColor said: I mean Symphgear has always been kinda shit in terms of plot, but man does it get hype. I also think this is the final season so they are really going all out. Weren't Gurren Lagann and Kill La Kill pretty shitty with their own plots, too, though? They still were exceedingly stylish and amazing shows because they brought the hype and tension as well with almost every following episode. |
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Ryuseishun said: ProofByColor said: I mean Symphgear has always been kinda shit in terms of plot, but man does it get hype. I also think this is the final season so they are really going all out. Weren't Gurren Lagann and Kill La Kill pretty shitty with their own plots, too, though? They still were exceedingly stylish and amazing shows because they brought the hype and tension as well with almost every following episode. Well I can't speak for TTGL, but Symphogears plot is a lot more nonsensical than Kill La Kill imo. Also I should have said this already, but the real weakness of Symphogear is the weak character writing. |
| For me, season 1 was the most enjoyable followed by season 2 The later season are inferior or just don't add anything new. I still enjoy them, but it does feel little repetitive |
ProofByColor said: Ryuseishun said: Weren't Gurren Lagann and Kill La Kill pretty shitty with their own plots, too, though? They still were exceedingly stylish and amazing shows because they brought the hype and tension as well with almost every following episode. Well I can't speak for TTGL, but Symphogears plot is a lot more nonsensical than Kill La Kill imo. Also I should have said this already, but the real weakness of Symphogear is the weak character writing. Really? Cause I'd say the actual weaknesses would be more so the rather repetitive villain format. I will agreed that the main characters probably could use more depth, but I personally don't think the writing for them is that weak. I guess it depends on how this season finishes off their respective stories, though. |
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| the mods wont ban the boosters because its to hard to go into the stats section and find the bot accounts and ban them which takes all of like 10 seconds |
| I'd say this is the highest quality season it terms of animation and it does have some amazing moments that outclass the other seasons massively. It does have many copy and paste moments for callbacks to previous seasons but its overall one of the better ones and can potentially rival G with the introduction of best wife Miku. |
| Yuritopia FTW!!!!!!!!! BANZAI TO YURI !!!!!!!!!!!! |
thepath said: For me, season 1 was the most enjoyable followed by season 2 The later season are inferior or just don't add anything new. I still enjoy them, but it does feel little repetitive Yeah completely agree. It does get boring after a while seeing the same format for every season of villain appears, villains runs around, attacks heroes, heroes get beat, heroes get powerup to counter villain etc. Also I feel many characters seem to go through the exact same arc multiple times just slightly varied like Chris and Maria. That and everything that made S1 and S2 great were removed like Swan Songs being impactful and Miku (but S5 is rectifying that part). |
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42caio said: If someone was around back then and understands better why the fuck there was this strong rejection to it here I'd love to hear. I actually believe that the score improved since (because of following seasons "softening" the blow) but people hated the ending: - The girls coming back to life with the X-drive. - Then, them playing dead at the very end before coming back again. People are just mad at this kind of "asspull" (for a lack of a better word). The thing is, all the asspulls in Symphogear have a logic or reason behind (even the ones I listed above), but if you don't pay attention and are allergic to what looks like nonsense, at first view, you call it bad writing. If I should qualify the overall plot in a single word, it would be "coherent". |
THICCDADDY1234 said: Except this has nothing to do with my opinion. It is merely a statistical fact as a direct result of any anime's main haters always dropping a franchise during its first season or at the very least not wanting to watch any more of itHaXXspetten said: Of course. But that happens for literally every sequel ever by default so no point complaining about it. It's a natural phenomenon I don't think your allowed to have an opinion when you haven't even watched it It doesn't have anything to do with Symphogear. The same logic applies for any anime with more than one season |
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| And the asspulls are part of what makes this show great! It's already so over the top all the time anyway, the asspulls are just icing on the cake. Don't think too hard about it and just go along for the ride. |
Ryuseishun said: ProofByColor said: Well I can't speak for TTGL, but Symphogears plot is a lot more nonsensical than Kill La Kill imo. Also I should have said this already, but the real weakness of Symphogear is the weak character writing. Really? Cause I'd say the actual weaknesses would be more so the rather repetitive villain format. I will agreed that the main characters probably could use more depth, but I personally don't think the writing for them is that weak. I guess it depends on how this season finishes off their respective stories, though. It's been a while now, but I recall having issues with some of the conflicts between Tsubasa and Hibiki in season one. Also I felt like most of the dad (Hibiki) drama was done pretty poorly. |
| Well, mr. masochist who sticks to series I hate here and even I stopped watching Symphogear once I was done with S2, but seeing how high the score suddenly spiked (pretty sure it was like 7.95 1-2 weeks ago, wtf) I can't deny I feel interested. |
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| Good Symphogear getting the recognition it finally deserves even from bots. |
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