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Aug 15, 2019 2:23 PM
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I just finished watching Neon Genesis Evangelion (The series) and End of Evangelion. I loved the series, but End of Evangelion was just to weird for my taste. I was struggling to enjoy the movie because i was trying to grasp what and why things was happening.
Aug 15, 2019 2:26 PM
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2deep4u is what i get with the reaction with it lol, i really have to watch End of Evangelion at some point maybe next week i will do that

and from what i read its like an alternative timeline of the ending anyway so its different from the happy ending of the TV series
Aug 15, 2019 2:28 PM
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@CodeBlazeFate Mind to try to explain (or point out some text)? (a watcher who actually loved the TV show and doesn't criticize its end is so rare)
Aug 15, 2019 2:35 PM
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@ugmon It's not really deep, it's just visually hyperbolic, to simplify, it's just a messy crap.
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@ugmon It's not really deep, it's just visually hyperbolic, to simplify, it's just a messy crap.


im not sure about that i saw some youtube videos explaining the ending like with hours of explanation lol
Aug 15, 2019 3:38 PM
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Not sure either. It's the worst anime I've ever watched.
Aug 15, 2019 6:28 PM
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It's pretty straightforward once you look past the carnage and understand the rather unsubtle message the mindfuckery is conveying. Shinji is basically forced to face reality and stop trying to escape any way he can (including sexual escape), and that only once he's willing to accept reality and all its pains, he can move on, which is the requirement for


So yea it frames all of that around an apocalypse scenario and further deep-diving into Shinji's mind.
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Aug 15, 2019 6:37 PM
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Highly rated among the fanbase, not in general.
Aug 18, 2019 8:45 PM
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ok i just finished watching it and i must say its just very good 8/10 for me, i might change my mind after a while though

its just elaborating the hedgehog dilemma again or love and hate happens all the time and its implying you cannot separate them because if you only have all love or everyone is like a hive mind then there is no difference and we cannot evolve or change anything but if its all hate then everything is destroyed no existence at all so that is not much better so better stay alive and live with the love and hate coexisting

Shinji is just lacking a healthy theory of mind or empathy since his mental illness is weakening those, his social anxiety is close to paranoid levels and its making him so lonely that becomes a vicious cycle
Aug 25, 2019 5:09 AM
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bondburney said:
I just finished watching Neon Genesis Evangelion (The series) and End of Evangelion. I loved the series, but End of Evangelion was just to weird for my taste. I was struggling to enjoy the movie because i was trying to grasp what and why things was happening.


"It's better not to know so much about what things mean or how they might be interpreted or you'll be too afraid to let things keep happening. Psychology destroys the mystery, this kind of magic quality. It can be reduced to certain neuroses or certain things, and since it is now named and defined, it's lost its mystery and the potential for a vast, infinite experience."
-David Lynch
Aug 25, 2019 5:43 AM
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Because it's a critically acclaimed masterpiece. It requires that viewers actually pay attention and it doesn't hold their hands, there is a lot of symbolism and some things are deliberately left for interpretation it's easily my favorite part of Evangelion.
Sep 1, 2019 5:56 AM

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People see symbolism, where they want to see it. That's it. The End of Evangelion was one of the worst movies and anime I've ever watched, but whatever.
Sep 1, 2019 6:10 AM

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Cause Misato is going to Jail and Shinji busted a nut.

And while i liked the original ending, i wanted to see the thing play out, not just in Shinjis mind and thats exactly what this movie did.
It shows Shinjis existential crisis through a better standpoint and the ending sequences is for me one of the most impressive ones, in any anime period.
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Great animation, great OST, great conclussion to an already great show. A total masterpiece of a movie that still causes panic and confussion in the people that watch it. For me, one of the best anime movies ever made, even if someone disagrees, I don't really give a fuck about them.
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Just finished watching the series and movie. Yeah, you need to know a lot of creationism to fully understand the symbol, like the tree of sephiroth, book of genesis and so on. What i get from the series is, its okay to continue your life eventhough you are fucked up. Even when you thing no one wanted you, at least you still alive, and thats enough. Looking at how the theme of this anime is mainly depression and separation and also tendency of japanese to kill them self of go lock them self. I though the creator just want to say. Love your self, and dont let cringy little boy decide the fate of the world lol
Oct 30, 2019 4:46 AM
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You literally say it is too weird for "YOUR" taste and still ask others why it is highly rated? Lmao
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Because it all returns to nothing. It keeps tumbling down tumbling down tumbling down.
"The Slave is the have-not, the oppressed one with nothing to spare.
But because the Slave is in that despairing situation, having nothing, it can kill the Emperor !"
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I didn't understand it, but I liked it anyways
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Because it's a f*cking masterpiece. Lol
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Highly rated among the fanbase, not in general.
you sure about that? Evangelion is one of the most successful franchises in the industry and has become a powerhouse. End of Eva is iconic, especially in Japanese culture. Unless you just consider the community as Japan and the entire anime industry, then that's fair.
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Full of mind blow and surreal horror,if you rate this by enjoyment,it's kinda boring,but if you see critically and closely you will find this show very entertaining and fun
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xeonite said:
@ugmon It's not really deep, it's just visually hyperbolic, to simplify, it's just a messy crap.
what are the anime(s) that you consider deep?
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IamPunpun101 said:
xeonite said:
@ugmon It's not really deep, it's just visually hyperbolic, to simplify, it's just a messy crap.
what are the anime(s) that you consider deep?
I've really changed my stance on this show after all this time: I believe it's way better than I initially thought, but it's still nothing to sanctify. Ultimately this show is about very rudimentary problems and emotions; that's why this movie is a massive hyperbole of his situation, it doesn't uphold the KISS principle and goes out of its way to overcomplicate his, in actuality psychologically simple, nodus. It's fun to look at it and scrutinize how it went and stuff, but to reiterate, what you'll find is something simple hidden underneath a complex cover.
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xeonite said:
IamPunpun101 said:
what are the anime(s) that you consider deep?
I've really changed my stance on this show after all this time: I believe it's way better than I initially thought, but it's still nothing to sanctify. Ultimately this show is about very rudimentary problems and emotions; that's why this movie is a massive hyperbole of his situation, it doesn't uphold the KISS principle and goes out of its way to overcomplicate his, in actuality psychologically simple, nodus. It's fun to look at it and scrutinize how it went and stuff, but to reiterate, what you'll find is something simple hidden underneath a complex cover.
that's some character development right there man, i'm delighted. but yeah, i agree w' you man
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IamPunpun101 said:
xeonite said:
I've really changed my stance on this show after all this time: I believe it's way better than I initially thought, but it's still nothing to sanctify. Ultimately this show is about very rudimentary problems and emotions; that's why this movie is a massive hyperbole of his situation, it doesn't uphold the KISS principle and goes out of its way to overcomplicate his, in actuality psychologically simple, nodus. It's fun to look at it and scrutinize how it went and stuff, but to reiterate, what you'll find is something simple hidden underneath a complex cover.
that's some character development right there man, i'm delighted. but yeah, i agree w' you man
As for shows I genuinely find "deep" or just complex: Monster (nihilism), Rakugo (solitude), Kenpuu Denki Berserk (superiority and betrayal), Rurouni Kenshin (utilitarianism), NHK ni Youkoso (isolation), Death Note (dementia [process towards insanity]), Oniisama e (mental illness), and Vinland Saga (religion), to name a couple of those shows (they are "deep" in the field mentioned right next to them).
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IamPunpun101 said:
that's some character development right there man, i'm delighted. but yeah, i agree w' you man
As for shows I genuinely find "deep" or just complex: Monster (nihilism), Rakugo (solitude), Kenpuu Denki Berserk (superiority and betrayal), Rurouni Kenshin (utilitarianism), NHK ni Youkoso (isolation), Death Note (dementia [process towards insanity]), Oniisama e (mental illness), and Vinland Saga (religion), to name a couple of those shows (they are "deep" in the field mentioned right next to them).
holy shit this is the answer i need. you perfectly answered it just describing it with just a few words but meaningful. also, thanks man i'll check it out since some of them are new to my ears, like rakugo
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IamPunpun101 said:
that's some character development right there man, i'm delighted. but yeah, i agree w' you man
As for shows I genuinely find "deep" or just complex: Monster (nihilism), Rakugo (solitude), Kenpuu Denki Berserk (superiority and betrayal), Rurouni Kenshin (utilitarianism), NHK ni Youkoso (isolation), Death Note (dementia [process towards insanity]), Oniisama e (mental illness), and Vinland Saga (religion), to name a couple of those shows (they are "deep" in the field mentioned right next to them).
but also, i think (war) would fit vinland saga. since it has a lot of historical references and it shows how deep and complex the cruelity of war was. but, you can enlighten me if i was happened to be wrong. btw, how abt mangas?
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IamPunpun101 said:
xeonite said:
As for shows I genuinely find "deep" or just complex: Monster (nihilism), Rakugo (solitude), Kenpuu Denki Berserk (superiority and betrayal), Rurouni Kenshin (utilitarianism), NHK ni Youkoso (isolation), Death Note (dementia [process towards insanity]), Oniisama e (mental illness), and Vinland Saga (religion), to name a couple of those shows (they are "deep" in the field mentioned right next to them).
but also, i think (war) would fit vinland saga. since it has a lot of historical references and it shows how deep and complex the cruelity of war was. but, you can enlighten me if i was happened to be wrong. btw, how abt mangas?
Vinland Saga does encapsulate war well, but so do many other shows - religion in particular is not done often, so I gave it to Vinland Saga (Angel's Egg also does it well).

EDIT: And for manga: I don't really read those all that much.
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xeonite said:
IamPunpun101 said:
but also, i think (war) would fit vinland saga. since it has a lot of historical references and it shows how deep and complex the cruelity of war was. but, you can enlighten me if i was happened to be wrong. btw, how abt mangas?
Vinland Saga does encapsulate war well, but so do many other shows - religion in particular is not done often, so I gave it to Vinland Saga (Angel's Egg also does it well).

EDIT: And for manga: I don't really read those all that much.
oh i see, but if you need manga recommendations then i would quicly suggest Oyasumi Punpun. it's a (super)[imo] realistic manga with elements of pessismistic nihilism. you can check other inio asano's (the author) works too if you are interested. 2nd manga i'd suggest is Vagabond. no need to explain anything ;) but well this is only my suggestions so it'a really up to you man and it's okay if you're not interested.
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IamPunpun101 said:
xeonite said:
Vinland Saga does encapsulate war well, but so do many other shows - religion in particular is not done often, so I gave it to Vinland Saga (Angel's Egg also does it well).

EDIT: And for manga: I don't really read those all that much.
oh i see, but if you need manga recommendations then i would quicly suggest Oyasumi Punpun. it's a (super)[imo] realistic manga with elements of pessismistic nihilism. you can check other inio asano's (the author) works too if you are interested. 2nd manga i'd suggest is Vagabond. no need to explain anything ;) but well this is only my suggestions so it'a really up to you man and it's okay if you're not interested.
If I were to read manga, I'd certainly start with those, yeah. Thanks for the recommendations.
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xeonite said:
IamPunpun101 said:
oh i see, but if you need manga recommendations then i would quicly suggest Oyasumi Punpun. it's a (super)[imo] realistic manga with elements of pessismistic nihilism. you can check other inio asano's (the author) works too if you are interested. 2nd manga i'd suggest is Vagabond. no need to explain anything ;) but well this is only my suggestions so it'a really up to you man and it's okay if you're not interested.
If I were to read manga, I'd certainly start with those, yeah. Thanks for the recommendations.
xeonite said:
IamPunpun101 said:
oh i see, but if you need manga recommendations then i would quicly suggest Oyasumi Punpun. it's a (super)[imo] realistic manga with elements of pessismistic nihilism. you can check other inio asano's (the author) works too if you are interested. 2nd manga i'd suggest is Vagabond. no need to explain anything ;) but well this is only my suggestions so it'a really up to you man and it's okay if you're not interested.
If I were to read manga, I'd certainly start with those, yeah. Thanks for the recommendations.
xeonite said:
IamPunpun101 said:
oh i see, but if you need manga recommendations then i would quicly suggest Oyasumi Punpun. it's a (super)[imo] realistic manga with elements of pessismistic nihilism. you can check other inio asano's (the author) works too if you are interested. 2nd manga i'd suggest is Vagabond. no need to explain anything ;) but well this is only my suggestions so it'a really up to you man and it's okay if you're not interested.
If I were to read manga, I'd certainly start with those, yeah. Thanks for the recommendations.
oks oks, thanks man
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xeonite said:
IamPunpun101 said:
oh i see, but if you need manga recommendations then i would quicly suggest Oyasumi Punpun. it's a (super)[imo] realistic manga with elements of pessismistic nihilism. you can check other inio asano's (the author) works too if you are interested. 2nd manga i'd suggest is Vagabond. no need to explain anything ;) but well this is only my suggestions so it'a really up to you man and it's okay if you're not interested.
If I were to read manga, I'd certainly start with those, yeah. Thanks for the recommendations.
also, why can't i add you here on MAL? kinda new here so i'm looking for friends with good taste as far as i can
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xeonite said:
@ugmon It's not really deep, it's just visually hyperbolic, to simplify, it's just a messy crap.
it really reminded me of my psychedelic trip it's really weird but my mind went through every single stage that Shinji went through including being woken up I just haven't realised this is also fake like he does
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In the movie we saw the start of human instrumentality project in the evangelion world, not just in Shinji's head. SEELE talked about the project for the whole series and now we finally see what it means, and how it needs to be achieved with any means possible even if it means attacking NERV with JSSDF. The whole thing takes you off guard especially if you didn't spoil yourself with the reviews
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It completely represents a mindfuck of anno minds,which one of the director on gainax and later revealed as miyazaki student.
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if you use your mind it will be fun if you dont it will be boring. its that simple
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Because it is a masterpiece.
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Because it is a masterpiece.
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