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bitchassdarius said: Vlad4o said: Honestly, It isn't. Killing off characters doesn't make a story automatically good. Quite a few anime and tv shows I've watched have fallen victim to it. And this criticism is quite retarded. And outside of Poe and Lucy, who were just minor Guild antagonists, the show hasn't redeemed other characters. Fitzgerald and Akutagawa hardly had any "redemption arcs" and don't expect anyone to try and justify Fyodor's actions. There are things to criticize in the show, but this isn't it. And your overall criticism of why the show is bad, is quite ironically pretty bad itself. your interpretation of what i said shows that you have trouble with reading comprehension. nowhere did i say killing characters makes a story good. if you can point out where i said that, i would be very surprised. the point i was actually making, if you so chose to reread what i wrote, was that if the story actually committed to being "dark" and "edgy" (the majority of the story takes place in the crime underworld of yokohama, so my description of the tone is undeniable) then you would expect major character to in fact die. this is to be expected, but the the story lacks actual grit. it's gay shounen shit trying to disguise itself as a serious story. if you don't think fitzgerald was "redeemed," then explain the one episode from this season that focused on him when he has been a completely irrelevant character? why would the dedicate an episode to him post-guild arc if he has absolutely no importance in the current rats arc? is that not a redemption or what? how about you go to any online streaming site that hosts his episode from this season and read the comments? how about you peruse the episode thread on this very same site and tell me how many posts talk about the show making fitzgerald look good? "hurr durr its not redemption because i said so and it fits my slipshod argument i made up on the spot because some guy is pointing out why the show i like is complete shit." if you bother responding, remember to grow a brain first. i'd rather not read more diarrhea blog posts about dumb shit. So one episode focuses on him, portrays him in a more positive light and people point that out, so that means that he is fully redeemed of his past crimes ? Do you actually know what a redemption arc is ? Because it seems you don't and that brain of yours must have been rotting inside your skull while writing this retarded comment. If he was truly redeemed then that would imply that he has changed his ways and perspective, wanting to do better and regret his past actions. As it stands, he is still pursuing the book and wants to create a new Guild inside Yokohama by buying the Special Operations Division, and he doesn't seem to regret nearly nuking the city either. As a whole, he hasn't changed nor did his goal. He may no be the main villain anymore, but he is not a hero either. And did you think that he saved Eckleburg out of the goodness of his heart ? He saved him in order to take Manhasset Security and The Eyes of God system in order to pursue the Book, not to mention that Eckleburg is the one who designed the system in the first place and would be a valuable asset to Fitzgerald, something that he stated outright in the episode. He even says that he plans to fight for the Book once again in the future and that The Eyes of God will be great asset for when the time comes. Your comment as a whole is just a bunch of gibberish with childish insults thrown into the mix and nothing more. Learn to write first and then comment next time. But I won't be wasting any more time with you, since I pretty much now how you'll respond to me, with more childish insults and hiding behind the "hurr durr I'm objectively right and you are wrong". |
castbound123 said: kater_tot said: I really loved this franchise too :( it's kinda sad the season's already ending.Fucking amazing episode! So happy to see Atsushi & Akutagawa working together again! Now we just need Dazai and Chuuya to work together hehe I kinda guessed that the cat was Natsume cause, y'know, what with the real Natsume's most famous novel being called I Am A Cat haha I'm so happy that Katai is still alive cause he's subtly awesome and i found the mini Ogai/Fukuzawa flashback interesting because i've always wanted to know what their relationship was in the past. The last episode is going to be amazing but im also sad because i could literally watch this show forever and never get bored... don't want it to end! I think the whole concept is amazing and the way that the real life authors personalities and novels are incorporated into the characters is so fucking cool! I'm worried about future seasons though cause i'm sure the anime is catching up to the manga... |
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| WTF they already have the virus maker and yet the two don't even knew it?????? |
Swagernator said: Why didn't he just transformed back into a tiger form and then go after him ? Anyway next week is the last episode, and i must say finally. This third season bored me to death. i completely agree , so boring .. |
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| Natsumes appearance was pretty badass |
| looks like they're gonna leave a fyodor battle for season 4, and focus on catching pushkin and the battle against him for the last episode. |
| Intense awesomeness this episode! Natsume-sensei was finally revealed! Jiraya-sensei's voice! cool! 5/5. |
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| Atsushi ๐ use๐ your๐ fucking๐ ability.๐ Natsume-sensei looks like old Sherlock |
justaway_neoJun 22, 2019 11:56 PM
kater_tot said: Yes the whole plot is absolutely amazing. It gives you so much hype in every season. So the characters are reflected to the authors? Wow that's truly amazing.castbound123 said: I really loved this franchise too :( it's kinda sad the season's already ending. I think the whole concept is amazing and the way that the real life authors personalities and novels are incorporated into the characters is so fucking cool! I'm worried about future seasons though cause i'm sure the anime is catching up to the manga... |
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| The Peter and the Wolf soundalike music before and during Fyodor's appearance was hilarious and amazing. |
Vlad4o said: bitchassdarius said: your interpretation of what i said shows that you have trouble with reading comprehension. nowhere did i say killing characters makes a story good. if you can point out where i said that, i would be very surprised. the point i was actually making, if you so chose to reread what i wrote, was that if the story actually committed to being "dark" and "edgy" (the majority of the story takes place in the crime underworld of yokohama, so my description of the tone is undeniable) then you would expect major character to in fact die. this is to be expected, but the the story lacks actual grit. it's gay shounen shit trying to disguise itself as a serious story. if you don't think fitzgerald was "redeemed," then explain the one episode from this season that focused on him when he has been a completely irrelevant character? why would the dedicate an episode to him post-guild arc if he has absolutely no importance in the current rats arc? is that not a redemption or what? how about you go to any online streaming site that hosts his episode from this season and read the comments? how about you peruse the episode thread on this very same site and tell me how many posts talk about the show making fitzgerald look good? "hurr durr its not redemption because i said so and it fits my slipshod argument i made up on the spot because some guy is pointing out why the show i like is complete shit." if you bother responding, remember to grow a brain first. i'd rather not read more diarrhea blog posts about dumb shit. So one episode focuses on him, portrays him in a more positive light and people point that out, so that means that he is fully redeemed of his past crimes ? Do you actually know what a redemption arc is ? Because it seems you don't and that brain of yours must have been rotting inside your skull while writing this retarded comment. If he was truly redeemed then that would imply that he has changed his ways and perspective, wanting to do better and regret his past actions. As it stands, he is still pursuing the book and wants to create a new Guild inside Yokohama by buying the Special Operations Division, and he doesn't seem to regret nearly nuking the city either. As a whole, he hasn't changed nor did his goal. He may no be the main villain anymore, but he is not a hero either. And did you think that he saved Eckleburg out of the goodness of his heart ? He saved him in order to take Manhasset Security and The Eyes of God system in order to pursue the Book, not to mention that Eckleburg is the one who designed the system in the first place and would be a valuable asset to Fitzgerald, something that he stated outright in the episode. He even says that he plans to fight for the Book once again in the future and that The Eyes of God will be great asset for when the time comes. Your comment as a whole is just a bunch of gibberish with childish insults thrown into the mix and nothing more. Learn to write first and then comment next time. But I won't be wasting any more time with you, since I pretty much now how you'll respond to me, with more childish insults and hiding behind the "hurr durr I'm objectively right and you are wrong". yes that is what a redemption is, are you dumb? the guy goes from primary antagonist in season 2 to "he didn't actually die and look how much of a funny character he is really is" for one episode this season. what do you think a redemption is? that they have to go through a whole 4 episodes becoming a good guy? that's stupid and completely one-dimensional, all you need for a redemption is to make the former villain more likeable, which is usually achieved by "making them good" (here they just made him less bad and tried to make him more of a personality.) that's literally it, you don't need an "arc" and if you think that, stop immolating your brain by watching shitty shounen shows. redemption has nothing to do with morality, i'm clearly referring to how viewers value the character. fitzgerald is barely even a character in the second season, he only shows up in like three episodes mainly just to battle akutagawa and atsushi. there was absolutely no point in bringing him back OTHER THAN TO REDEEM HIM because he has no point as a character and plays no significant narrative role this season, hence what i meant by "pointless redemption." there was no need for me to explain this because this is exactly what i wrote in my first post. the fact that your whole worthless post is based on your own stupidly rigid definition of what you think "redemption" means and not actually comprehending what i wrote is proof that you're unequipped to participate in a forum discussion. stop trying to play semantics and learn some real rhetorical skill. and the funniest bit is that this is your only point of contention left, since i completely shat on your other attempts at picking holes in my criticism. thanks for playing, don't bother trying again. in fact, don't ever @ me again. every time you try to come at me, it's embarrassing post after embarrassing post. getting real sick of reading the same bad faith post from you just because you watched some dumb analysis youtube video that made you think you were smart. your analysis doesn't even make sense, moral ambiguity is baked into the show, the port mafia is literally necessary for yokohama to run for fuck's sake. your idea of character "redemption" with respect to morality is completely incompatible with the world of bungou stray dogs. if you actually watched this show you'd have understood that three seasons in, but i imagine you just sit there drooling out of your open mouth while the episode plays. |
bitchassdariusJun 23, 2019 10:56 AM
| Natsume-sensei looks so badass. He was a fucking cat, I love him already. Katai is alive! Yay! |
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| Damn, awesome fight between two bosses! So the Natsume-sensei was the cat, i always suspect that cat was something important, nice flashback about two bosses! Atsushi and Akutagawa working together is always nice to see, they keep hating each other, but at same time i think they are kinda close to each other! |
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castbound123 said: kater_tot said: Yes the whole plot is absolutely amazing. It gives you so much hype in every season. So the characters are reflected to the authors? Wow that's truly amazing.I think the whole concept is amazing and the way that the real life authors personalities and novels are incorporated into the characters is so fucking cool! I'm worried about future seasons though cause i'm sure the anime is catching up to the manga... Yeah they are, like Dazai's personality in BSD is reflective of the real Dazai's depression and disinterest for life or Ranpo's love for mysteries. The show is even more impressive when u learn about how much thought has gone into it. |
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kater_tot said: castbound123 said: Yes the whole plot is absolutely amazing. It gives you so much hype in every season. So the characters are reflected to the authors? Wow that's truly amazing. Yeah they are, like Dazai's personality in BSD is reflective of the real Dazai's depression and disinterest for life or Ranpo's love for mysteries. The show is even more impressive when u learn about how much thought has gone into it. I hope will it will have the best ending <3 |
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| God i hate it when shows try to go all out with high stakes and everytime i've thought damn this characters actually gonna die then they cop out of it everytime, normally i wouldn't have a problem with this but it's just happened so many times already , i guess in a way it works since the amount of chaos that would happen if either of the leaders died would be huge mainly the port's turns out the deus ex was a cat! pretty sneaky of them hiding some important character all this time but i've heard high prriase for this arc but it's just been alright |
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| oh shit, Pushkin is a jerk. wtf that last part. Atshush can move past guards and sensors so fast but he can't catch Pushkin on foot lmao. Oh, Natsume is the cat. |
| BANZAI NIPPON. Nippon is the Land of freedom. Nippon is the Land of Peace. Nippon is the Land of Justice and Prosperity. In Nippon, we trust. We love Nippon, we love Anime. Anime love us, Nippon love us. ๆฅๆฌ |
| Dazai is back :) Hilarious on how much Akutagawa listens to Dazai. |
| So the too suspicious cat turned out to be the foreshadowed Natsume-sensei, and I must say, he made quite an entrance. It was pretty absurd that after showing that demonstration of speed to infiltrate the mine undetected, Atsushi couldn't catch that fat guy. Well, I guess the first thing he thought was that he could catch him running normally, what a shame for him that the guy had a minecart. Also, how the hell did neither Akutagawa nor Atsushi notice when Pushkin killed the other guy? Or how the hell did none of the guards notice that Akutagawa jumped over them and then cut off a big chunk of rocky roof?... ??? It was pretty hilarious though how Katai called Akutagawa "aniue" because of Gin. lmao And sadly, no Lucy this episode :'( |
SkyLETVJun 28, 2019 10:20 PM
| the last two episodes are and have been so epic |
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oddjobsyorozuya said: Soo Akutagawa is infected by the virus...okay...in the end nothing will happen to him. Just like nothing will happen to Fukuzawa and Mori. This show is plain boring. Yeah, I don't think characters should be killed off like candy but the status quo has to be shaken up. Every now and then they do these "berserk" closeup shots with the black faces and red eyes like something's actually about to go down but...nothing happens. Everytime a character is seemingly gravely injured, nothing happens. It's like the Simpsons with some continuity. Everything goes back to normal the next week. It's boring. |
t_tomodachi22 said: Swagernator said: Why didn't he just transformed back into a tiger form and then go after him ? I honestly wondered the same thing! He would have caught him in a split second if he had at least used the tiger power in his legs! This was literally just a devise to move the drama in the plot along. for the sake of the plot i guess lol they always do dump stuff for the sake of the plot, sometimes dumber then other times |
FyodorYukichi4 said: Sugram22 said: for the sake of the plot i guess lol they always do dump stuff for the sake of the plot, sometimes dumber then other times It was different in the manga , you should check chapter 51 , the Bones team directing this episode was the one that fuc@ed that scene ! even in manga they do... for the sake of plot, i did not just mean anime but overall, it doesn't make the series bad nessesarily, won't ruin it but ppl tend to notice silly and dumb things |
| hol up, ranpo and chuuya are still in poes book while shits going down in Fydors base? lol |
| Some cool backstory for the two bosses. Another team up with Aktugawa I didn’t think it would actually be one of the two fodder they captured. I think Atsuchi forgot about his powers at the end lol |
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| Exploding cat heals lethal wounds somehow! Also Atsushi is so fast, he can avoid surveilance cameras, yet he is unable to catch up to some fat guy running away on foot. Sure... |
grandy_UiDAug 7, 2019 12:12 AM
| Lel even they didn't know that nobody ended up being Pushkin! |
| I'm Bruneian and I like anime. And Manchester United. And fat cats. |
| Thanks for helping me not lose faith in the show, the inconsistencies in this episode felt kinda bad. I guess I will also have to read the finale in the manga with how potentially rushed the next episode might turn out. oddjobsyorozuya said: Why are you so fast to kill main figures in the story, we just barely got some knowledge about them. In the grand scheme of things, I don't feel like the story has progressed enough to warrant killing the titans of the past(only 35 episodes and a single "real" story arc, that wasn't serving as introduction or exposition of some sort, we are just in the middle of the second one). It's also very obvious that if they die right now the story would change completely, as their successors are still not ready to take upon their capes. I wouldn't want to go through so much exposition and world building and have everything devolve into chaos two arcs in.This show is plain boring. |
MeritasNov 26, 2019 10:01 AM
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| Only one more episode to go but I have to say that this season, especially compared to the 2nd one is rather light-weight and doesn't really pull much of a punch. I doubt this season will redeem itself in the last episode. Meh. |
| No one dies and some how they over come every catastrophe for the sake of the plot. but still it was enjoyable 48 looks like fox.... that bastard. |
| Nice to see Natsume-sensei so he's the strongest ability holder? And even the two boss haven't seen his ability yet? Wow I'm so curious. I'm glad to know Katai is safe whew. And he even called Akutagawa bro. Seeing Akutagawa so focused because he got order from Dazai lol. But geez, they let their guard down ๐ข |
  โ โโโ ๐๐ฐ๐ธ ๐ค๐ข๐ฏ ๐ ๐ฃ๐ณ๐ช๐ฏ๐จ ๐ฑ๐ฆ๐ข๐ค๐ฆ ๐ต๐ฐ ๐ฎ๐บ ๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ข๐ณ๐ต? ๐๐ฉ๐ฆ๐ฏ ๐ ๐ต๐ฉ๐ช๐ฏ๐ฌ ๐ข๐ฃ๐ฐ๐ถ๐ต ๐ช๐ต ๐ฆ๐ท๐ฆ๐ณ๐บ ๐ฅ๐ข๐บ? |
| Mori absolutely mentioned the revenge chain if he gets killed, pure truth, it’s a mafia. What a method to maintain Fukuzawa, Mori and Dazai out of screen for half of the arc, now they’re in. So Natsume, a mythic character, what your intervention is gonna be about. Pushkin being one of that guys caught me off guard too, hope Atsushi could bring him to Dazai. |
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| Seeing Mori and Fukuzawa face each other was so hype. Their history together was also great. Now, for the final episode! |
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
| Natsume Soseki, you sneaky little cat for acting like Haruno's pet the whole time despite being an old man. Pushkin being one of the two guards there really caught me off guard despite the fact his face has already been shown in an earlier episode (I guess his design is too mundane). |
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| Damn Akutagawa got that virus too... I wonder how will they be able to end everything in just one episode xD! |
| Sorry for my english xD! RIP Kentaro Miura :( RIP Akira Toriyama :(  |
| Sooo much happened. I knew the cat was a little sus considering it was always at the wrong place at the wrong time. I do agree with everyone else, why didn't Atsushi use his power? How were they both caught off guard and now one of them is down? I do think this season was a letdown compared to the first season, I think it was still slightly better than the second season. Idk both the 2nd and 3rd seasons have been slightly boring. |
As a wise man once said, "No one hates anime more than anime fans"  |
| Ohh so the cat was a power, I should have expected it, now the mafia will work with the agency to find the virus power guy and that's nice to see Atsushi working with Akutagawa though I didn't expect this random guy to be the culprit especially that he infected Akutagawa now :o |
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| Mori vs Fukuzawa, very sharp action with nice boards using Dutch angles, very cool. |
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