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Apr 21, 2019 8:22 AM
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Ooh, so Veronica was after a book from the earlier episodes...

It looks like the show still has Free work with Marlya as partners. I must admit though, that new woman they're working is quite cunning and even a bit seductive lol. Free is still all about business as usual.

Yeah, that woman can't be trusted.
Apr 21, 2019 9:41 AM
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So the last war lasted for 14 years in total man thats a long one. Though more than anything the fairies were the most innocent for they were dragged into the war without consent. The costs to the war though was immense especially in terms of civilian lives. Looks like thats what caused Wolfran to tread the dark path. Chima is actually a pretty good name for Marlya's fairy. So the tomes are essentially a record of fairy types then huh. Given how powerful the knowledge within the black tome was its no surprise that it will be so coveted. The relationship between Free and Bitter though was pretty interesting and did well in expanding upon the former's character. Looks this mission has become more complicated with the reveal of Bitter's fairy. Though im curious whether is she a former comrade of Free or an illegal. Decent ep that did well in expanding upon Wolfran and Free's characters while introducing Bitter as well.
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Apr 21, 2019 10:18 AM
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Decent episode.

Chima is a nice name for the little pet.


Apr 21, 2019 10:29 AM
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Cool episode, nice chase.
wish we didn't have the CG fairies, but in the end it was there to remind me they exist.
Apr 21, 2019 11:04 AM
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i'm starting liking this show
Apr 21, 2019 11:40 AM
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Loving the new pet❤️
Apr 21, 2019 11:41 AM
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Not bad episode and finally we got one decent episode from this show without lame issues.
But still I am not finding any intriguing about the fairy stuff and wished this story was without fantasy. Still lets see what happens next.
Apr 21, 2019 11:48 AM
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This was a solid episode, primarily the pacing was way better.

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Apr 21, 2019 11:56 AM
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So we got Bitter Sweet, the two from Dorothea and Veronica after the same piece of the black book.

Ya know for the protagonist Free isn't very smart, unlike Wolfran his former colleague.
Apr 21, 2019 12:04 PM

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Chima Is adorable I want one! At the start of the anime I wasn't sure on the opening but I'm actually starting to love it! I like bitter sweet, she adds a bit of fun into the episode!
Apr 21, 2019 12:35 PM

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I must be watching a different show, that episode was desperately dull. If the best thing you can say about it was the pacing was better then there really is no hope for this anime.
Apr 21, 2019 12:41 PM

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Crashmatt said:
I must be watching a different show, that episode was desperately dull. If the best thing you can say about it was the pacing was better then there really is no hope for this anime.


this episode was a snoozefest ...
im having doubst i can last even a few more episodes
Apr 21, 2019 12:47 PM
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JiangHaoyi1979 said:
Ya know for the protagonist Free isn't very smart, unlike Wolfran his former colleague.


The protagonist is Maria though.
Apr 21, 2019 1:11 PM
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I must be watching a different show, that episode was desperately dull. If the best thing you can say about it was the pacing was better then there really is no hope for this anime.
This anime is terrible like wth i can't force myself to watch This dropped
Apr 21, 2019 1:13 PM

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Its was ok,still want to see more of the females and less males

Big plus for the fighting and strong girls, i like that =)

Cute rat thing i guess,, I hope it don't have fucking rabies. I want that thing neutered and vaccinated properly if it going to lay in my girls lap. And please give it a bath it is probably dirty as well ,,, This anime suffer from a fucking rat problem 6/10
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Too many organizations and names flying around. Their interests, and the alliances and conflicts between them aren't exactly easy to keep up with either. I'm sure the pieces will eventually fall in place, but right now it feels just like bad exposition and its kind of draining. I was even under the impression that Dorothea itself was illegal or something, but it seems its name can even order the normal police around.

Well, at least we got a bit more of information about the cool, big fairies and about that black tome. The poor magical beings were hunted, deprived of their freedom, and dragged into a human conflict against their will, becoming mere tools of murder. The fairy soldiers were pretty much used until the end, being nearly wiped out too. And if I remember it right, they were abandoned and are "illegal" right now so it's no wonder some of the survivors are bitter. I mean, I guess Wolfran and his organization or mafia or whatever are? Time will tell.

And the black tome, which is so sought after by everyone I guess, is about fairy possession. So I guess that the way Mariya got her fairy is really going to be important.
Apr 21, 2019 1:48 PM

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I'm having a hard time finding any interest in this plot. This show is on my drop radar. I'll try to give it a few more episodes.


Apr 21, 2019 1:54 PM
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I was even under the impression that Dorothea itself was illegal or something


It was clearly stated in the first episode Dorothea are government's dogs. That means they're a legal organization working for the government.
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1idd0kun said:
Fayrin said:
I was even under the impression that Dorothea itself was illegal or something


It was clearly stated in the first episode Dorothea are government's dogs. That means they're a legal organization working for the government.


I remembered it thanks to the dialogue between Free and the woman, but it mostly slipped by me until now.
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I'm still not sure what's going on or what the story even is about...
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Apr 21, 2019 2:15 PM
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So many fairy users fighting over Fairy tomes
Apr 21, 2019 2:20 PM

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Black tome, Red tome, White tome... Wait a minute. This is not Pokemon. This is Magic the Gathering rip off!

But seriously, I cannot decide if writing so far is shallow and lazy or genuinely good. But fact that those 20 minute episodes felt like 10 minutes only mean I am really into it so far. At least episode 2 and 3 I enjoyed much so far.
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Crashmatt said:
I must be watching a different show, that episode was desperately dull. If the best thing you can say about it was the pacing was better then there really is no hope for this anime.


this episode was a snoozefest ...
im having doubst i can last even a few more episodes

i legit fell asleep watching this episode
Apr 21, 2019 3:14 PM
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What's with the weird names ?
Apr 21, 2019 3:18 PM

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I'm really beginning to think this going to be the first PA Works anime that I dont like. The story seemed interesting, but after 3 episodes it just doesnt really seem to be going anywhere, not to mention all of the main characters just seem dull or unlikable. Oh well I'll give it one more week, only because it's from PA Works
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Fayrin said:
Too many organizations and names flying around. Their interests, and the alliances and conflicts between them aren't exactly easy to keep up with either.

It took a while for me to get the hang of the organizations as well. Basically, Dorothea is a governmental agency, kind of on the same level as the FBI or something I guess, and is the faction that Free, Marlya, etc. work for--it specializes in Fairy-related crimes in the nation of Zestria.

Gui Carlin is a mafia gang, which Marlya and Free joined for external reasons, which Bitter Sweet(the femme fatale) works for but remains independent of, and the errand boy/informant this episode works for directly. I'm not entirely sure what their motivations are or not, aside from...stealing artifacts and auctioning them off? idk, i hope we learn more about them in episodes to come.

Ledrad is the nation that Wolfran and Free fought for in the War of Unification, aka the Civil War. Timoon was another faction, and it's where many of the Fairies were hunted for use in the WoU, as well as where the artificial fairy factory was in episode 2 and the beginning of 3. I'm guessing all factions fought against Zesskia, and I'm also guessing that Zesskia is the faction that burned the primordial-rich village Suna, where Marlya and Veronica are from.
Apr 21, 2019 3:36 PM

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Just tell me if this show gets better so I will resume it lmao
Apr 21, 2019 3:42 PM

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Crashmatt said:
I must be watching a different show, that episode was desperately dull. If the best thing you can say about it was the pacing was better then there really is no hope for this anime.


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I'm having a hard time finding any interest in this plot. This show is on my drop radar. I'll try to give it a few more episodes.


Drop radar lmao... The show hardly has any solid plot, random people fighting other random people. And then we have organizations which barely have any standing. At the worst part is that it's gonna have 26 episodes - that's what I call waste of money and time, shame.
Apr 21, 2019 4:06 PM

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Fayrin said:
Too many organizations and names flying around. Their interests, and the alliances and conflicts between them aren't exactly easy to keep up with either.

It took a while for me to get the hang of the organizations as well. Basically, Dorothea is a governmental agency, kind of on the same level as the FBI or something I guess, and is the faction that Free, Marlya, etc. work for--it specializes in Fairy-related crimes in the nation of Zestria.

Gui Carlin is a mafia gang, which Marlya and Free joined for external reasons, which Bitter Sweet(the femme fatale) works for but remains independent of, and the errand boy/informant this episode works for directly. I'm not entirely sure what their motivations are or not, aside from...stealing artifacts and auctioning them off? idk, i hope we learn more about them in episodes to come.

Ledrad is the nation that Wolfran and Free fought for in the War of Unification, aka the Civil War. Timoon was another faction, and it's where many of the Fairies were hunted for use in the WoU, as well as where the artificial fairy factory was in episode 2 and the beginning of 3. I'm guessing all factions fought against Zesskia, and I'm also guessing that Zesskia is the faction that burned the primordial-rich village Suna, where Marlya and Veronica are from.


Thank you for taking the time to explain it like this. It was kind of you, and now things are already making more sense. I honestly didn't have the time to revisit the episodes, but still wanted to give this one a chance.
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I'm honestly glad that a lot of people are already dropping this show if they haven't already. There's a lot to unpack with each episode, as so much information about the world is revealed. There's a lot of exposition performed by even still images, such as the diagram of the fairy organ and the map of Eastald, reminding me a lot of Gravity Falls. If you expect them to simplify the story they're trying to tell in 2 cours, that's not what they're aiming for. A lot of people draw parallels to Jojo because the fairies are kind of like stands, but I'd say this show has more similarities to Fullmetal Alchemist, with all the factions and nations and characters and whatnot, as well as using a grounded magic system. Except I feel this series does a lot better at explaining the factions than FMA/FMAB did.

What fascinates me most about this show, though, is the biology of the fairies. Apparently, people from areas with a lot of fairy activity are born with a fairy organ, which is directly attached to the heart and feeds off of the host's life energy--this is why fairies are summoned by a heartbeat, and regenerate in their organ. In exchange, the fairy protects the user in a symbiotic relationship. Fairies without organs are called Imaginals(sounds like a kids show but ok) and can apparently survive on their own, as well as the Primordial nymphs. I'm guessing they can do fine in the wild but survive better with a human host. I'm also wondering why none of the villagers in Suna were fairy users...I'm guessing we'll see more of the man that burned the village, Lay Dawn, as he appears in the intro. Artificial Fairies can be created as well, I'm guessing from flesh(maybe even human flesh?) and summoned with a whistle. I'm wondering, though, how exactly they hunt down fairies for the Fairy Soldier operation in the first place; I'm guessing we'll learn more in future from the pre-intro past sections. Really fascinating stuff; I love when shows have a simple yet detailed magic system that drives the plot.

As for this episode, I thought it was...good. Not as fun as the last two episodes, no, but it looks like it's setting up for things to come, especially with that cliffhanger. I'm wondering what exactly Damien and Veronica were trying to do, stealing from the mafia just to bait the mafia into stealing the text back. It seems to carry forbidden knowledge about fairies, as explained by the vice-minister in the beginning of the episode. I'm wondering what exactly Dorothea will do if they get their hands on the script.

Also, I noticed they used jazz for the chase scene. I wonder why after using Jrock for the past 2 episodes of action scenes, they decided on something more period. I guess it fit in better with Axel? Like, if he survives, I can see this becoming his theme. Idk.
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It's revealed that animal-fairies are extinct, there are only 17 fairy soldiers left after the war and that Wolfran lost his family. In Timoon there's a mercenary named Beevee Liscar, who works with Wolfran. Free lost Wolfran, so Free sent Axel, a thief that works for Arcame, to look for information about him. Dorothea sent Free and Marlya to the fairy ministry, there, Marco Bellwood told them that the fairy tome it's a set of tomes and the last one is the black fairy tome, so he sent them to Timoon to visit Cain Distarol. There, they encountered with Sweetie, a member of Gui Carlin mafia that's looking for the tome too, also, Arcame sent Axel to steal the tome. There a guy named Damien Carme received them along with Cain, suddenly they realized that a thief (Axel) entered the house and stole the tome, Sweetie, Free and Marlya started to chase him (Damien could be seen talking with Veronica about the tome being fake), after a while they cornered him and Sweetie shot him, Axel released the tome and Sweetie released her fairy. Axel was lying in the ground and Beevee Liscar found him.

I think that not lot of things happened but a lot of things were revealed, to begin with, why Wolfran is like that, it looks that he lost his family through war, so now he's more careless about the present time, what a shame to lose the path of what you worked for. There is this guy Liscar, that found Axel at the end and well, what is with him. Marco revealed the nature of the tome and the other tomes are all a part of the fairy tome, and I think, there's not that much information about that fairy possession, also the existence of this fairy ministry says that fairy information is really limited. The mafia is behind that tome too, with military porpuses, I think, as we could watch, how surprised Free was when he discovered that Sweetie has a fairy too. Damien and Veronica's relation, also with Cain, if they're protecting the tome that much, from Veronica or from the ministry.
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I picked this up because the main character is a girl, but it turns out she's pretty much background decoration and the dude does all the fighting. That's boring as fuck.

I think I'm gonna drop it. It's not worth the time.
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I like Bitter sweet, she's confident and strong. I'm interested in how will she handle Free and Marlya, I kinda am rooting for than them because they suck. Funny how Free muscled his way to the spotlight of this series, they completely forced his present on us and I hate it too. I thought this was about Vero and Marlya.

Anyways, I'm interested in the cliffhanger after the credits.
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Apr 21, 2019 9:25 PM

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This is so weird. Every place that comes up in subtitles says "former territory of Timoon" and the banner says "Timoon" is it a former territory or not ffs lol.
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This show is a bit of a mess, but some people in the comments who are really invested have helped clear some things up. Perhaps now that I have a better understanding I'll enjoy it a bit more. Either way I'll probably stick with it.
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Chima? I would have just called it Czeschka. Rolls off the tongue better...

So Bitter Sweet is one of those double agents I assume?

Oi...Isn't Marlya too young for wine?

Axel can run...

Greedy Fox and Lying Crow...Well...Bitter's Fairy kind of resembles a fox...

So a whole bunch of organizations are running about left and right with these artificial fairies, the fairy tome, the mafia, Dorothea, Arcame, et cetera. And this chase sequence was staged by Cain? Some weird things happening around here...
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I think I got a little lost with the matter of the Fairy Tomes 😅. I suppose later on they will explain this better. The content of those pages should reveal the fact why Marlya was possessed by a primal fairy.
Something that also caught my attention was the fairy imaginary.
I must admit that the girl "Sweet" I found attractive 😏.

It seems to me that with each chapter the action scenes improve and the CGI animation of the fairies is not perceived as much.
Apr 22, 2019 12:59 AM

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As usual the info dump. But the action animations are what keeps it going on.
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Ah, I am so glad this show is still going strong, my other favorite underrated show, Shoumetsu Toshi went straight to shit.

I like that isn't all self-explanatory, I needed to rewatch the 1st episode to connect the dots: apparently the bearded guy is the one Veronica is working for, and the Black Fairy Tome they are all chasing after, is the one she stole in the first ep, that turned out to be a fake. I guess he is using it as a bait to test the waters, to see who he is up against, or maybe to pretend to be an ally to Dorothea.

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I think I got a little lost with the matter of the Fairy Tomes 😅. I suppose later on they will explain this better. The content of those pages should reveal the fact why Marlya was possessed by a primal fairy.

I think neiter of the Fairy Tomes are too importan right now, except the black one. They have them all in a secret library or something, they probably contain basic information about the fairies. Only the black one is missing, which is currently the most important one, as the information it is containing probably can be used to create fairy soldiers by fairy possession.

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What fascinates me most about this show, though, is the biology of the fairies. Apparently, people from areas with a lot of fairy activity are born with a fairy organ, which is directly attached to the heart and feeds off of the host's life energy--this is why fairies are summoned by a heartbeat, and regenerate in their organ. In exchange, the fairy protects the user in a symbiotic relationship. Fairies without organs are called Imaginals(sounds like a kids show but ok) and can apparently survive on their own, as well as the Primordial nymphs. I'm guessing they can do fine in the wild but survive better with a human host. I'm also wondering why none of the villagers in Suna were fairy users...I'm guessing we'll see more of the man that burned the village, Lay Dawn, as he appears in the intro. Artificial Fairies can be created as well, I'm guessing from flesh(maybe even human flesh?) and summoned with a whistle. I'm wondering, though, how exactly they hunt down fairies for the Fairy Soldier operation in the first place; I'm guessing we'll learn more in future from the pre-intro past sections. Really fascinating stuff; I love when shows have a simple yet detailed magic system that drives the plot.

As I understood it is a lot simpler than that. First of all there are the humans, they have nothing to do with fairies by default.

Then there are the fairies, scientifically named as Fairy Primordial. They are the small winged flying creatures, who are normally invisible to human eye, and they are harmless, unless transformed to their big scary form, which I believe they only can do when they are connected to a human being (or maybe they could do it anyways but they usually don't, since when left alone they don't want to fight, just live in peace). Normally when they mention faeries they speak about the transformed form which is a very effective weapon.

In the war they transplanted so-called fairy organs (idk where are these from) into soldiers, so they control a specific fairy, becoming fairy soldiers. They created around 300 of them in the war, and only 17 of them survived the war. Creating new fairy soldiers is illegal, as they are weapons of war, and they don't want an another war.
Although there seem to be a lot more effective way of creating fairy soldiers, without the need of a fairy organ, by fairy possession. Apparently accidentally something like this happened to the main character, Marlya. The Black Fairy Tome is the one describing the process of fairy possession, thats why so many are after it. I guess some parties of the losing side want a new war, and the mafia is after it, because producing these fairy soldiers would bring a great profit.

Edit: Maybe the fairy organ is an organ from the Fairy Primordial, having it transplanted into a human he can summon the fairy as Imaginal (I don't remember which episode I read this term and what it exactly means) to fight for him.
Apparently I don't completely understand it as well.
Also I don't remember them mentioning the 'feeding off of the host's life energy' thing.
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This is so weird. Every place that comes up in subtitles says "former territory of Timoon" and the banner says "Timoon" is it a former territory or not ffs lol.

The territory used to belong to the country Timoon, but after the war Timoon ceased to be a country, now the territory is a providence of the Empire, still called Timoon.

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It's revealed that animal-fairies are extinct

Oh, so the animal-fairies and Fairy Primordials (small flying invisible creatures) are two different kinds of fairies?
Then the Black Fairy Tome is needed to still be able to create fairy soldiers with a new method, now from the Fairy Primordials, since the animal-fairies are extinct, they cannot create fairy soldiers by implanting fairy organs of them.
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imSOunique said:
Swizze said:
This is so weird. Every place that comes up in subtitles says "former territory of Timoon" and the banner says "Timoon" is it a former territory or not ffs lol.

The territory used to belong to the country Timoon, but after the war Timoon ceased to be a country, now the territory is a providence of the Empire, still called Timoon.


Ah thanks for clearing that up, it wasn't making any sense to me lol. I don't find it hard to keep up with all these names flashing by every episode.
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okay, wtf, they fucking dumped so much information that now I'm confused about lots of things. This should be a 12 episode series...
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I'd be surprised if some character DIDN'T have a fairy at this point. It's like SnK "development" : You get a titan and you get a titan, everybody gets a titan; but with fairies.

To be honest, the most interesting part of this show are the flashbacks at the beginning of each episode, unfortunately.

Status changed to dropped ;<
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I much preferred this to the past 2 episodes. The back story they give at the start of each episode is helping me piece together what the f**k is actually going on... Fairy gone is growing on me...
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So in the first minute and a half of exposition-heavy flashback, we're told fairies were hunted to near extinction, only 300 fairy soldiers were created as elite soldiers for their respective armies, and only 17 survived.

So that means Axel is supposed to be a rare human resource, even if his fairy is kinda useless, and a veteran elite soldier, even if he has practically no confidence or shows any sort of combat ability.

Or that means despite fairies being hunted to near extinction, Arcame implants fairy organs into disposable, near-useless mooks like Axel and does't consider him or the Black Fairy Tome text he's sent to steal important enough to provide support.

I'm really hoping this is actually hinting that something's going on in the background (like someone found a way to create artificial fairy organs and Axel is just the byproduct of trying to mass-produce a new generation of fairy soldiers) and not another case of the writer giving zero thought into justifying why Axel is such a contradictory character.

Also why the hell did he throw the empty case at Bitter so she discovers it's empty right away instead of throwing it at the cops to buy himself more time?
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Is it just me or does Axel look almost a bit similar to Issac from Baccano?

The back story given at the start of the episode is slowly starting to explain a bit better of the war as well as the currant factions, although it's still a bit confusing.

Bitter Sweet is one character that I liked quite a lot in this episode. She's confidant with her actions and she can certainly fight like a pro, hence why she's part of the mafia, but prefers to keep her independent status intact.

The whole chase scene where Bitter Sweet chased after Axel, who stole the Black Fairy Tome, was enjoyable, blessed with some smooth animation and detailed visuals from P.A. Works as usual. =)

Marlya also shows that she's got a backbone as she doesn't hesitate to interrupt the fight between Bitter Sweet and Free, but she screwed herself over by shooting Bitter's Fairy and got snarled up. Either way, I'm looking forward to seeing how the end of this fight goes.
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The episode was an average one, but for some reason this show is still very boring. It's okay on paper, but it's not enjoyable at all.
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It's revealed that animal-fairies are extinct

Oh, so the animal-fairies and Fairy Primordials (small flying invisible creatures) are two different kinds of fairies?
Then the Black Fairy Tome is needed to still be able to create fairy soldiers with a new method, now from the Fairy Primordials, since the animal-fairies are extinct, they cannot create fairy soldiers by implanting fairy organs of them.[/quote]

As I could understand, Fairy Primordials have the ability to possess a living being by their own will, as it happened with Marlya, they do that with animals and then humans took that animals and extracted their fairy organ to put it in humans. Yes, I think what they're looking for, is a method to create fairy soldiers from Fairy Primordials.
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I thought the episode was better than the previous two, which may have had something to do with the backstory in the beginning. I also thought the music was better this episode, which is something that I really harped on in 1 and 2. Hopefully it will continue the upward trend
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I like Bitter sweet, she's confident and strong. I'm interested in how will she handle Free and Marlya, I kinda am rooting for than them because they suck. Funny how Free muscled his way to the spotlight of this series, they completely forced his present on us and I hate it too. I thought this was about Vero and Marlya.

Anyways, I'm interested in the cliffhanger after the credits.


if you paid attention to the opening, you will see that it is about Free, Wolfran, Veronica and Marlya. with Wolfran being a dark counterpart to Free like Veronica is a dark counterpart to Marlya
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It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
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