Sword Art Online: Alicization Episode 19 Discussion

thebrentinator24 said:
Damn, Eugeo got totally mind-fucked at the end there.

Also, lets be honest, I'm pretty sure he wasn't using any Core Protection with the Administrator ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

TanyA12 said:
Hey do you know where I can read the light novels ?

Made-In-Heaven said:
His character got shafted in the anime version. They didn't bother to include the part where his family situation was explained in more details. He's an unloved child and always had to give something in return to even get a tiny bit of his parents' attention who always neglected him in favor is his older brothers and wasted his money that's why he fell into Quinella's trap.
I don't like to constantly repeat things but seeing how badly the anime treated his character I feel a bit obligated to do it. The more understanding reactions from most novel readers who don't blame him one bit compared to anime fans speak volumes.

Donnawan said:
Hmmmm this is good...

Made-In-Heaven said:


I agree it was a stupid choice. Selka did say he's lonely but that was easy to forget and still doesn't make up for the lost information. Now Eugeo gets undeserved hate and this annoys me to no ends because it easily could've been avoided with just a short flashback scene where they show how his family treated him and how he still wanted to be in good terms with them despite of this. I guess the Operator girl and explaining Bercouli's skill were more important to them. *sigh*

Meruru-tan said:
WOW I'm so disappointed by Eugeo not gonna lie.
I get it he's getting brainwashed and his insecurities are being taken advantage of but still why's he so weak without Kirito .___.

Love is important and all but why does it seem as if he was in such a need of love anyway.
His character was being portrayed as being kind and helpful and so people generally treated him very well in return.
To top it of he has Kirito aka bro number one by his side he's never even lonely -.-

Shawnblaze said:
Worst season ever among all the seasons...even school days was better than this.

DeathHero001 said:
Meanwhile Asuna watching kirito from real world

Better have explanation kirito or you will in danger from Asuna

GrandWizardLamp said:


She just lost an eye after breaking the Taboo Index and realising she was betrayed by the people she dedicated her life to serving. She is clearly in an intense amount of pain. Kirito is trying to calm her down and give her some piece of mind..

Red_Ranger_Wien said:
And thus Kirito Blanco completes his translation into a fuccboi bad guy all because he was afraid Kirito prime aka Kirito Bkack was going to steal his waifu.

Sasuga Reki Kawahara the king of hack writers.

Mattinator95 said:



wow out of all that happens in that scene that what you clung too

Made-In-Heaven said:


Not sure if it's gonna change your mind about him but the anime skipped over his scenes again. In the ln it was stated he was a very lonely child and always had to "pay" with something to even get a tiny bit attention of his parents and siblings, his family in return constantly neglected him and were disappointed with him when he got his calling because they expected him to help out on the fields yet they had no problem to use his wage for themselves while he always had to work with worn clothes and had to eat dry bread.
He's an unloved child and wasn't even allowed to become a father and husband one day because only the oldest son of a family is allowed to marry that's why he believes to be loved you always have to give something back in return and that's why Quinella had an easy time to use his biggest weakness against him.

Radu_Bey0 said:

This is a fucking awesome villain/anti-hero backstory. Why isn't this part of the anime?

Turtles_Hunter said:

For once, I agree this was needed. Here it comes out of nowhere, I mean just a mention in the early episodes instead of all those useless endless discussions... So much discussion and they still achieved to miss that.
But even with that it would have been stupid. He just spent 2 years with a friend that really cares about him. Does that count for nothing. Man, I had hope at the beginning of cour 2, because the pacing was better, but now it's the scenario that dives. The bad guy become good while good guy becomes bad trope is so bad.
With recap episode, that I thought was not a thing anymore last week, and such a bad developpment this week, I feel this show drift more and more toward the unintesting. Up until now, I always felt there was a good story under all the defaults. Now I slowly begin to feel it's not the case anymore.

In the end, when I read the threads, I feel like many problems of the show comes from the adaptation team. They are bad, I hope they'll never get another show to adapt... Sure I feel like the source material is not that great, but still decent, and that Alicization could have been an enjoyable ride if well done. But right now I'm just bored by the out of nowhere development, the pacing of the first part, the horrible decisions in term of direction of the story and the even more horrible way they present them.

Mullerio said:
i just wanna ask Eugeo one question why didnt he just used the Knife,because he knew that she could remove memorys....i could go on that this howl shit made 0 sense but ok we all know it makes no sense so why bother anymore...

if Eugeo now turns into one of those Holy knights and fights Kirito and Alice i will just take it and laugh at it,than Kirito makes the same move he made with Alice by telling him his Memorys that he shouldnt even remember but somehow his Heart remembers and than the 3 fight the Holy Bitch and take over.....i still will watch it because i wanna see the slowly devolotion of the Characters :)

Edit:
List of things that made no sense
The Eugeo Scene:
- if Eugeo murdered his Family why isnt he in Prison or a Holy Knight now and if not why belive an enemy that you know and you also know that she can change Memorys
- the "old" Alice saying that Eugeo should ran, oh boy wtf
- Love=Money Wtf?
- it makes sense that a Mother loves her sons all equal
- why even belive the Admin
- why naked
- how does the Admin know everything about Eugeo
- why take the risk that the Admin could get killed by letting Eugeo alone with her sleeping
- if he didnt did it out of hatred what else? its obvious that if your little harem member gets raped you do something right?
Kirito x Alice Scene:
- how can a Heart or Lips remember something...there is muscle memory but i dont belive thats the same
- why even keep this scene in the episode it all was obvious
- how can ALice belive some random guy who come along and wanna take how Priestress

SAO has 0 depth and some maybe say now "omg that Eugeo i feel so sry" or "the development is just insane"and i ask you "development that makes no sense is a good thing?"

There are many more things but its SAO so Logic isnt needed right?

GrandWizardLamp said:


The admin knew everything about eugeo because she is an immortal god.

They explain all of that in the source material. But they cut out the backstories and inner monologue in the adaptation.

Mullerio said:



If she is an immortal god the dark dudes should be no problem, and yea i heard that the source material is better