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| Hmm. pretty interesting. A little confusing but not that much. So in the first episode we got to know the good guys. Miyashita, ehh whats his name the main dude in episode 1 and boogiepop. What exactly Boogiepop is remains a mystery for now. All we know is that he's something that takes the body/shape of another human and becomes another personality/possibility of that human and his mission is to fight and erase monsters/adversities And in the second episode we are introduced to the "bad" guys. The guy with the weird face proportions and "Manticore" the man eater. She's a failed creation of "Echoes". Echoes is someone that came from space to see if humans are genuinely kind? Hm. Like I said a little confused. I'm digging the art style but the proportions were sometimes off, especially on that evil kid. Animation wise nothing stellar but it definitely wasn't disappointing. The small fight scene's we had and the scene where boogiepop spoke to Echoes were animated pretty nicely. Im happy that we had zero CG crowds. Music was a strong point for me. The directing of the music was nice. Very subtle background music, fitting the atmosphere just perfect. Opening is alright I expected more. The first few seconds are godtier but then it just goes downhill. Especially with the drop. Doesn't fit the vocals in my opinion. Ending is alright too. Nothing that I will listen to in the future btw if I said something completely wrong please tell me. |
shayed__Jan 4, 2019 9:38 AM
| To think that the man eater was a girl though. A drug that caused its users to run away from home huh. To think that Nagi's father is one of Suema's fav authors. Despite the image of her being a delinquent Nagi was surprisingly diplomatic. Hmm so the maneater is the cause of the vanishing girls. The relationship that she has with Masami sure is curious. So Echo's was the man with grey hair then. Despite his look it was nice seeing Naoko show kindness to him. The revelation about Echo's past sure was interesting. Poor Naoko though. An interesting episode that did well to introduce overall story and the main villain while also providing backstory for Nagi, Echos and Naoko. |
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| The OP theme by Myth & Roid is already making a case for OP of the season, imo |
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| I actually love the first two episodes (this episode more) as it feels unique, maybe I will give the original anime a try (I am aware that this one is a adaptation of the source while the previous one is original). Animation is not bad, just a lot of still shots. |
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shiro_kai said: Elcru said: Boogiepop would simply not work if they told it in a linear fashion. Reasons for this is because each chapter or episode shows different characters with different POV which sometimes their actions causes a chain reaction in the story What about the scene where Kirima Nagi atacked the girl in the street, they could have just continued the scene but instead they cut to a girl being killed in a alley. There was no need for that. The anime has its own issues when adapting the LN. Like the user who quoted me earlier said, sometimes it doesnt work quite well in anime form. |
WeedCatxJan 4, 2019 10:00 AM
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| I decided that I would Only Pick Up 5 Anime This Season so that I can watch some stuff from my PTW and On Hold Lists. I'm Glad Boogiepop was One of them. I have been liking the show so far. I was Kind of Skeptical when It was First Announced because I thought that it was a Secuel to the Original Boogiepop Anime that Came out 19 years ago but I decided to pick it up when People Told me it was a Reboot technically. I think I won't regret Picking this one up. Its not Just JoJo Fridays Anymore.. ITS BOOGIEJOJO FRIDAYS!!! |
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Lululand said: Am I the only one who didn’t get anything at all? Don't worry, it will be confusing at first but as more POVs are introduced, you'll be able to understand what's happening |
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Daniel_Naumov said: Ryuseishun said: The OP theme by Myth & Roid is already making a case for OP of the season, imo Yes but what is so great about them? Out of all these edgy songs they write, as far as I am concerned and I am might be extremely prejudiced, they only got as "great" and popular because of, well, Overlord. Tbf, I don't really side with the band itself...it's more of the style and substance of the soundtrack. |
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| I really really liked this episode! It's totally got me hooked... so much mystery! I don't really get who Boogiepop is and what he/she is yet though? |
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| Nice! The non linear storyline has me going. |
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| honestly hated the second episode. soo many unnecessary cuts and jumps ..its just not enjoyable to watch and hard to follow for no fkin reason. I probably cant continue watching this show bc of how much i despise the main characters in this show. |
| this was a good episode ! so far nagi has been a very intriguing character to me. i'll admit i'm kinda confused right now as to what's going on; i find it a bit hard to follow, but i'm looking forward to the rest of the show and having the next episodes hopefully clearing things up for me |
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| pretty good so far. i mean, it's not anywhere near the tone and atmosphere of the older "adaptation" (not related to the LN), plus the animation's kinda crappy (not surprised though, they must be in a real tight budget since the books are little known), but hey, it's still miles away from your usual seasonal anime bullshit and mediocre LN adaptations. not a big fan of the op though, the book was filled with old rock references, plus saotome likes the doors. i love how this is already rated lower than goblin slayer and falling behind. really guys? not even 3 ep... |
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| It was really interesting. The first episode left a bit bland impression and I'm glad we have a chance to watch the second right away. All the pieces just clicked. Didn't find it difficult to follow or rather, connecting the dots. On the contrary, it's an additional fun really. Looking forward to what comes next. |
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| Things continue to be pretty interesting but like i said in the first episode thread, I'm definitely gonna re-watch these 2 episodes to get a better grasp on things. |
| People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. MAL is literally just anime Twitter as its own website lol. |
| It's becoming clear to me that we'll see the story in a nonlinear fashion and probably learn how all the characters are important and fit into the story as it goes on, even Takeda and his relationship with Boogiepop. Echoes came from space to test humanity and see if they are good people. Government immediately caught him and cloned him poorly, the clone's will was probably altered and the clone man-eater is on the run from the government after killing the entire faculty he was put in. I assume he let Echoes live for some reason or Echoes escaped too. I was wondering why Kirima and Miyashita were fighting so much in the opening and I assumed it was because Boogie Pop helped man-eater but now we know she helped Echoes and not man-eater. At first I was very very confused how she said the problem was solved and I didn't have to do anything, but now I'm thinking that was a flash forward and that was after Kirima took down man-eater. The growth Takeda felt is now very understandable and that was a cool choice! Man-eater is quite interesting, the monster type is nothing new we've seen it in Parasyte and Devilman but the way it has tons of humanity and is being tricked and controlled by a much more monstrous human than itself is a nice twist. We saw Echoes cry and man-eater show jealousy. Cool. So, Saotome or whatever sided with man-eater as he was being choked, he jumped at the opportunity to use someone like him even while being choked to death. He acted as the brains, went on that date we saw in the first episode, drugged Akiko, used her as a slave to drug the other girls and use them as slaves as a way to ruling the world. The only one left is Kyouko who Suemo is helping out and that led her to getting involved with Kirima. Kirima knew the girl who took in Echoes and what was going on so when she was killed she knew it must have been the man-eater. They were already friends and Kirima believed her but I believe this sparked her investigation to the degree its on now. Everyone still stands out as pretty one note right now outside of man-eater who has tons of emotion but at least Kirima and Suemo are fun little detective girls! And overall the idea of humanities judge immediately being modified into humanity's worst weapon says a lot about what kind of message this is going to be. I like how we saw kindness and evil so far, even if Saotome is a bit much. I hope he ends up having some decent motives because right now he's just dislikable, but he does give me Ryou vibes from Devilman so who knows!!! Also, I imagine this entire anime will cover different perspectives of this incident and we'll probably even see Echoes and Saotome's so I look forward to everyone getting some time to shine if I'm right. |
| saotomo's the reason chivalry never died (in seriousness though, really enjoying the soundtrack at the moment - compliments the scenes well - and the pacing seems to be looking pretty good as well) |
AnimeFreak-San said: is this a male gender issure...human issue...mental illness perhaps? |
| Soo... let me get this straight. Episode 1 Main character's a guy named Takeda. The girl he was gonna go on a date with suddenly got possessed by a being called Boogiepop who appears to stop justice or something along those lines. Boogiepop comforted a crying disheveled man that most people simply looked away from (which I assume is some sort of social commentary and possibly one of the main themes of the show). Boogiepop specifically came to fight a man-eater who's in one of the students. We find out that a few girls are "running away"/disappearing, Boogiepop is also the name of a rumored killer, and that Kirima Nagi might also be a killer. Boogiepop then announces that the problem got fixed on its own, so now he/she/it's gotta disappear since he/she/it's now useless. Takeda doesn't like this because he knows that there are still problems. Boogiepop responds by telling him that they've got to fix their own problems. (I'm not exactly sure how to interpret Boogiepop's line). Boogiepop disappears causing, in turn, Takeda's date to come back. Kirima Nagi, possible murderer, seems to recognize Takeda's date. Episode 2 Actually, Takeda's not MC. Suema gets asked by scared girl for some advice about her disappearing friends. She also asks for accompaniment because she's scared of Kirima Nagi. Suddenly, she gets jumped on by Kirima Nagi in a latex action uniform. Turns out, the guy who teased Takeda in the start of the first episode is friends with the "man-eater" who can also take the forms of those she eats. That guy's probably evil and sides with the man-eater because he wants to rule the world or some shit. We then go to scared girl before she got jumped. Apparently, her friends who've been disappearing got some drugs from Akiko beforehand. Akiko then disappeared herself. Suema visits Kirima Nagi to find out she's not an evil killer but in fact the opposite, some sort of justice fighter who defeats abberations. She mentions the word "Manticore" and "Echoes" when she jumped scared girl, but doesn't explain herself to Suema. She seems to think scared girl's the Manticore. Nagi also reveals that she was suspended for some reason and that it ends tomorrow. We then see Manticore girl and evil bro spying Kirima Nagi, saying some stuff which implies that they're wary of her. We then jump to the past (I think) where Manticore girl is kissing an unconscious girl. Asshole boy walks in on her and Manticore girl freaks out and attacks him. Asshole boy gets a bit evil and says that he'll side with Manticore girl. We then go to Asshole boy getting a date request from Akiko who turns out to be the girl he was hanging out with at the start of the first episode. They have their date, probably also at the same time as the start of the first episode. He drugs her and takes her to Manticore girl who she makes her slave (by kissing her). Akiko then becomes a mindless slave who literally cries drugs. It's her brain cells that produce the drugs she's been giving out to people. Still not kinda sure what those drugs do, but I assume it's what Manticore girl injects into girls' bodies when she kisses them. Manticore girl then seems to be falling in love with evil boy. Turns out, Manticore girl kinda sucks at making slaves. Sometimes they end up acting weirdly and walking strangely, and sometimes they don't wake up at all. Manticore girl gets self-conscious but asshole boy comforts her. One day, Kirima Nagi comes in, suspicious of asshole boy and asking about his date with Akiko. She then gets suspended because of cigarettes she's carrying. Manticore girl gets stressed and straight up kills a girl who wandered in who was looking for Echoes. Turns out, Echoes is also manticore, specifically the original one. Manticore girl is just a clone of him by the good old secret evil government weapon research agency. We then jump back even more. Turns out, Echoes is the crying guy from the start of episode one that gets helped out by Boogiepop who realizes that Echoes is finding something. He gets picked up and sheltered by the girl who got killed in the previous scene. Apparently, that girl understood what he was thinking (since Echoes can only repeat what other people say and the girl has some superpower or some shit) and also knows Kirima Nagi who she talks to. Turns out, Echoes is a fucking alien meant to test mankind but fucked up due to evolution or some shit and gets captured by a government agency. (Who are they to test mankind when they can't even get themselves in order?). It's revealed Kirima Nagi got herself suspended to talk with Echoes (I don't really get why she had to get herself suspended). We cut back to Manticore girl just after she killed the girl who helped Echoes. She's really stressed and asshole boy comforts her. We cut again to find out they disposed of her corpse. Kirima Nagi tries to get Echoes to talk about why the girl who helped him disappeared, but he doesn't talk. Now, is there any important detail I missed? I felt like this was the kinda show I have to listen very closely to (just like Kara no Kyoukai). |
| "There’s no point in the world. But isn’t that wonderful? Because if there isn’t one, then you can decide what it is for yourself." ~ Filicia Heideman, Sora no Woto "Senpai...please grow up." ~ Fumi Manjoume, Aoi Hana "I wonder what tomorrow will bring." ~ Yunocchi, Hidamari Sketch: Sae and Hiro's Graduation Arc |
| In chronological order: - Manticore Girl is discovered by asshole boy. They partner up. - Asshole boy takes Akiko on date, planning to drug her and make her Manticore Girl's drug slave. - Meanwhile, Takeda is waiting for his date who takes till evening to come. His date does end up coming, however she's now Boogiepop. Boogiepop helps out Echoes who's crying and came out of nowhere. Boogiepop knows that Echoes is looking for something and comforts him. Boogiepop then chastizes the crowd for not helping him then beats up a police officer allowing Echoes to escape. - Later that night, Echoes gets picked up by Naoko who can understand everything he's saying. - Naoko goes to Kirima Nagi explaining that he's an alien sent to test mankind but got captured and cloned. Kirima Nagi then decides to get herself suspended to talk with Echoes. - The next day: - Manticore Girl tries to makes more slaves, however she's not amazing at it, so she ends up having to kill some. Manticore Girl seems increasingly stressed and becomes emotionally reliant on Asshole Boy. - Kirima Nagi then approaches Asshole Boy, asking him about Akiko, his date with her, and her strange behavior. She then gets herself suspended with cigarettes. - Manticore Girl gets stressed by Kirima Nagi's suspicion and she talks about this with Asshole Boy in a storeroom. - Naoko then comes in looking for Echoes. Her mentioning of Echoes freaks out Manticore Girl and she swiftly kills her. Manticore Girl then explains to Asshole Boy that she's actually a government clone of Echoes. - Nagi then confronts Echoes who doesn't seem to be talking. - The disappearances of the girls get interpreted as girls "running away" and the student council make not of this in their meeting. - Takeda confronts Boogiepop who explains that she's a split personality of his date who suddenly appeared to stop justice or something. They talk a few more times, presumable over the course of days. - As the rumors of the disappearances become more prevalent, Scared Girl approaches Suema and explains how her friends disappeared because Akiko was handing them drugs. We know that these drugs and the disappearances are caused by Manticore Girl. - On their way home, Scared Girl gets jumped by Kirima Nagi in latex who thinks she's Manticore Girl. Kirima Nagi however realizes she's innocent then buggers off. - Suema then visits Nagi's home, realizing Nagi's on the side of justice. She asks for an explanation, but she barely gets any. Suema reveals that her suspension ends the following day. - After presumably a couple more things happened, Boogiepop tells Takeda that the problem got fixed on its own so now she has to disappear. Takeda's date comes back like normal. - As Takeda and his date leave school, Nagi comes over to Takeda's date. Nagi recognizes her and asks to shake hands. That's what I gathered from these two episodes. Am I accurate? |
| "There’s no point in the world. But isn’t that wonderful? Because if there isn’t one, then you can decide what it is for yourself." ~ Filicia Heideman, Sora no Woto "Senpai...please grow up." ~ Fumi Manjoume, Aoi Hana "I wonder what tomorrow will bring." ~ Yunocchi, Hidamari Sketch: Sae and Hiro's Graduation Arc |
| As the last episode was entirely chronological (I think, I'm not even sure anymore lol) this episode's non-linear narrative... is a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. I'm glad the boring male character from last episode didn't remain the MC, as he really wasn't much... Hopefully it doesn't fall into the problems that Steins;Gate 0 faced where you know what's gonna happen, as we know that the Manticore is most likely going to die, and somehow Nagi is going to become aware of the girl Boogiepop possessed, as we saw that in the first episode. But Boogiepop is so unpredictable and confusing, maybe it doesn't matter? Haha |
| Well... That was interesting, to say the least. Seems like it's going to go the Kara no Kyoukai route of non-linear storytelling. Boogiepop herself is pretty interesting. However, the male MC is pretty boring so far. Hopefully, he doesn't remain like that for the rest of the show. I like the music. Really contributes to the eerie atmosphere the OP is also pretty food too. Confusing yet intriguing. |
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| Didn't realize this show is from 2000, I will probably go and watch the original version at some point. I was very confused as to what was going on after the 1st episodes but now things make a lot more sense after watching the 2nd. I am quite into this, I like the mystery and drama and I am very interested to see what happens next. |
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| Wtf was Suema thinking for setting up that Kiyouko to be interrogated by Kirima Nagi ??? and what did that manticor did to Yurihara and Akiko????? Saotome was really a manitcor's bitch. Could someone enlighten me about that Manticor thing????? If that manticor killed Naoko, then who is that girl Nagi takling to????? |
JiangHaoyi1979Jan 4, 2019 12:51 PM
| Very dull and boring... The original is way better. This series is giving me that nasty Kino's Journey 2017 vibes already. |
| As a fan of the LN, I legitimately think that this adaptation is mediocre or maybe even worse. It cuts a lot of detail, like A LOT. For you who haven't read the novel you might feel this anime is rushed af, you're not wrong. As you might've noticed, the story is told in a non linear fashion. Which is cool in the LN, but not in this adaptation. In the LN, you are presented with a story told from different character's perspective. Each adds pieces little by little to build a story, like a puzzle if you want to call it that way. These things exist in this anime, but ended up being a clusterfuck instead of an amazing storytelling technique rarely seen in anime these days. Point being, this anime is rushed, poorly produced, and hard to follow for non LN reader. I swear the LN is much much better so go read that instead. |
Daniel_Naumov said: good for you, guess I'm the only one here huhMuzashi said: As a fan of the LN, I legitimately think that this adaptation is mediocre or maybe even worse. It cuts a lot of detail, like A LOT. For you who haven't read the novel you might feel this anime is rushed af, you're not wrong. As you might've noticed, the story is told in a non linear fashion. Which is cool in the LN, but not in this adaptation. In the LN, you are presented with a story told from different character's perspective. Each adds pieces little by little to build a story, like a puzzle if you want to call it that way. These things exist in this anime, but ended up being a clusterfuck instead of an amazing storytelling technique rarely seen in anime these days. Point being, this anime is rushed, poorly produced, and hard to follow for non LN reader. I swear the LN is much much better so go read that instead. I do not feel any such that you proclaim of. Good. |
| I am really liking it so far and i do like the art of the anime tbh Not as confusing as some may say Great op and i like the ed's visuals But i do Hope that the format of showcasing the events in a non chronological order will appear to have a better use later on Based on muzashi's words it seems that in the LN that format did serve a greater purpose unlike those 2 eps but nonetheless it did add to the charm of the anime and the anime may get better later on at using this format and at exploiting its full potentiel |
AkerakaiJan 4, 2019 1:34 PM
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Muzashi said: As a fan of the LN, I legitimately think that this adaptation is mediocre or maybe even worse. It cuts a lot of detail, like A LOT. For you who haven't read the novel you might feel this anime is rushed af, you're not wrong. As you might've noticed, the story is told in a non linear fashion. Which is cool in the LN, but not in this adaptation. In the LN, you are presented with a story told from different character's perspective. Each adds pieces little by little to build a story, like a puzzle if you want to call it that way. These things exist in this anime, but ended up being a clusterfuck instead of an amazing storytelling technique rarely seen in anime these days. Point being, this anime is rushed, poorly produced, and hard to follow for non LN reader. I swear the LN is much much better so go read that instead. Couldn't agree more with this. |
| Well this episode was a little better but I still feel like I'm missing a lot of details. Things are moving along too fast, for a lot of things I have no idea what's going on. And not in the good way. Animation is still decent at best and I'm having a hard time telling the different characters apart, but I guess that is something I'll be able to do once I watch the show more. Now for some questions: - Why is this guy helping the man-eater girl and why did she not kill him? Because he simply said he would help her? Really? - If they kill a bunch of people in that room, how come nobody is noticing? Surely someone must see the blood. Are we supposed to assume that these guys cleaned everything up perfectly? I don't have any issues with the non-linear storytelling but when they just throw random stuff at me with little to no details it's very difficult to get interested in the story. For now this anime is still at the level of "meh". Let's see if it gets more interesting once we get more information. |
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