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| This episode was dark. But so hilarious. raois jump and that tongue needs surgery lol |
| OMG! What an episode! omgggggggggggggggggggggggg WOW! This escalated so quickly. The sexual assault scene->arm in the air->eugeo's eye explosion->even more arms cut->jail->Alice appears! omg Probably she doesn't remember them. Can't wait for next eps! |
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
| That man was bleeding out on the floor and kiritos like “y’all hear summ?” |
| Damn that was intense. I was just like "come just kill the bastards already!" Hhaha did you all see how the dude jump on the bed though 😂😂😂 that had me rolling. He should of said "Itadakimasu!!" lol I wonder what's gonna happen to Kirito and Eugeo, specially now that they found Alice 🤔 |
| Not enough raep. Just gonna wait those doujins of this certain scene. |
| I've been waiting until Alice's reveal to post this video I made :D |
Sansou said: they weren't raped in the LN. You are confused. No one was saying they were raped in the LN. They were saying they were raped in Web Novel. In case you are unaware, Light Novels and Web Novels are two different things. Web Novels are often written before Light Novels, and typically work as Rough Drafts or first edition drafts if a work gets picked up by a Publisher. It will then be rewritten for the Light Novel, cleaned up, edited it, and some content will be changed. |
Writer_Man said: JudoJD said: Only the best from Sword art online's fanbase XD I can't believe I used to be one of them....my self worth takes a hit looking at people's poor attempts at trying so hard to defend this garbage : "I was one of them...ouch" But the writer admits rape and sexual abuse were the best ways he had of shocking his readers (now viewers) so...idk what people are trying to defend when it comes to the terrible writing this series has really when the truth came straight from the horse's mouth lol Anyways.. I saw this ep's "discussion" already had more comments than usual within this span of time so I'm just here with the popcorn and ish omegalol Fight fight fight Actually, Reki Kawahara explained it today that his reasoning for having these is at the time of writing - 2005 - majority of the light novels he read that inspired him used this trope. Just as the 90s were full of the "edge" characters that were super popular but are seen as laughable now when they show up. That's an explanation for exactly what I just said... At least he's self aware of how shallow and limited his own creativity in his writing is (unlike his fanbase)... I don't think the "he had" was clear enough for people who don't know this anime's an adaptation though so my bad for not going into the details of a horrible excuse ("oh look that's all Reki could do so it's good now reeee") |
JudoJDDec 8, 2018 9:15 PM
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| While it was certainly over the top, i don't think the scene per se was wrong. It was not out of nowhere, as we were told about how Frenica has to undress and "help" Humbert with his bath. And it's not like people in power never abused those they have power over. Heck, every second movie about the middle ages deals with some noble raping a commoner. On top of that, they mocked Eugeo all the time and wanted to get back at him. What makes me wonder is how it is not a violation of the taboo index. According to the SAO wiki, the taboo index includes taboos related to kissing, stealing, hurting people ("lowering their life"), destroying stuff and so on. Apparently the kissing one is only with respect to kisisng on the lips. Maybe so parents are allowed to kiss their kids foreheads or whatever. Still, did they seriously not do that while doing basically anything else? Stealing is taking away stuff. Could be an apple. Bam, taboo index. But taking away someone's control over his/her life is okay? And they didn't "steal" their swords or cloths (as in, removed them from where the girls put them without their consent)? They didn't damage any of their clothes? Whats with the cloth they used to bind them, and which Humbert used to bind his arm? Where did that come from? And lowering life only refers to bleeding or what? What about blunt force trauma? And can people loose their mind in that world? And they never intended to do anything that would lead to bleeding? Not biting, no hard slap? What about the bonds? If it's too tight, and it constricts blood flow? Still no "lowering of life"? And Eugeo had to fight the taboo index when he wanted to get closer, and lost his eye when he drew his sword. Nothing happend when he, immedatiely afterwards, sliced Humberts arm off - the taboo starts with the intention. So even if rape itself is not in the taboo index, theres a lot of things on the list that should be difficult to avoid when doing so, especially when it's people like Humbert and Raios who like to hurt people. Like it often is the case in real life, it was all about overpowering, humiliation, hurting people (Eugeo mostly). Not about having sex. And then we have the weird case of Alice, barely "crossing" the border with her fingertips, with no intention of doing so, and it's immediately confirmed that she has broken the taboo. So not only are there loop holes in the law as written, each rule is interpreted differently (some as written, some as they might have been intended etc.) or the whole index is interpreted as seen fit. Unless it's explained why this is the case, *THAT* is bad writing. As the taboo index, which is long established in universe, and quite strict, but an invention just for this story is bend, circumvented and ignored just to fit the story, instead of creating an index that fits the intended story in the first place, or working within the self imposed limits. |
| I mean.. lets be honest. It just works. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Splash a little sexual assault and you have a discussion on fire. People who are offended, People who don't care and people who defend it All come together as one. Like a crispy Christmas night. all of us together. Drinking hot cocoa, Gotta love it ╰( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )つ──☆*:・ﾟ |
| The episode did what it intended to do very well. Now that the world is set up and Eugeo can stand against the taboo index, the real story and fights are about to start. My only complaint is that comical depiction of Raios. And yes, this discussion thread is more entertaining than the episode itself. |
| Kirito be like "Yeah, no big deal, not the first rapist I've killed!" |
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moodie said: https://twitter.com/TZEENO/status/1071480682571030528 TV version vs Crunchyroll version. Huh....interesting...didn't really miss that much, though |
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LaughingCoffinx said: I mean.. lets be honest. It just works. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Splash a little sexual assault and you have a discussion on fire. People who are offended, People who don't care and people who defend it All come together as one. Like a crispy Christmas night. all of us together. Drinking hot cocoa, Gotta love it ╰( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )つ──☆*:・ﾟ Even the ABSOLUTELY lightest of hentai was significantly worse than what was shown in this episode. I'm not even kidding, bro. |
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wtf is this shit is this from CR it's gotta be just freaking download it on nyaa CR is shit |
| Damn, this was some intense episode! No wonder why the discussion forum erupted here! LaughingCoffinx said: I mean.. lets be honest. It just works. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Splash a little sexual assault and you have a discussion on fire. People who are offended, People who don't care and people who defend it All come together as one. Like a crispy Christmas night. all of us together. Drinking hot cocoa, Gotta love it ╰( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )つ──☆*:・ﾟ Lol, this sure is a good one! Thanks for the much appreciated humour! Got to say though that those bastards deserved the treatment that Eugeo and Kirito inflicted upon them. Raping the juniors is a big crime no matter what kind of a substantial and heartless noble you are, but heh who am I to say all this to fictional characters. All in all, the direction leading up to the climax there was spot on and I’m honestly shocked that neither CR nor the Studio censor all that. It’d really give off a nasty feeling if I were to watch this at 12 am for sure. Kirito taking on the noble was an excellent treat and I’m looking forward to seeing what Alice and the Capital has in store for them. I’d be honestly shocked if they get away with this with little no capital punishment. |
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| I gotta say loved this episode (and the delicious tears of the weak and sensitive autistic snowfalkes/npcs/etc (no pun-intended) that are SAO Haters), the audio-visual animation is top-notch (honestly no Anime series comes close so far, no anime movie has come close to topping Ordinal Scale in Audio-Visual quality) albeit a few censoring. The acting was rather emotional and top notch as usual from the Seiyuus. Though the part that caught my attention was the scene where Raios BSOD as a result of contemplating in deciding in the feedback loop within the scope of that scenario; A. Not try to break the "Taboo Index", thus letting his "durability" reach 0 as a result of bleeding. or B. Try to triage the deep wound by using Humbert's "improvised bandage", which will result in harming Humbert's durability and breaking the Taboo Index in trying to save his own skin. But due to the Taboo Index being an overriding directive ingrained into these Fluctlights/A.I., the fluctlights can't break the Taboo Index without an strong external influence (like Kirito being the stimuli/"input-data" in Alice/Eugeo's "training-set") . This also highlight the role Kirito plays as being the "input-data" in the "feedback-loop" of the denizens of the Underworld. From what I observed he (or A.I./Program Raios.exe) got caught in essentially in an infinite loop in contemplating the decisions above, and that resulted in an memory-leak/buffer-overflow/segfault (cause fluctlight-cubes albeit large still have a limited amount of allocated memory/storage-space) thus causing his "death" by "Disconnecting from the Server" and not from Kirito directly killing him by decapitation (Kirito in this case avoided violating "murder" in the Taboo Index. |
Uruz7LaevateinDec 8, 2018 11:42 PM
| amazing episode for me... 10/10 even though they very very put a lot of blood... that shouldn't be... but solid episode and of course our alice is surface again... and beautiful gold... |
| Lolwut This is PG-13? x'D I mean, idc, I just find that funny |
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| Honestly, it escalated so quickly and first half of episode was so much painful to watch, i suffered a lot watching that, and the time that Eogeo took to act put me fuckin crazy, i was screaming "Eogeo please kill that bastards, FAST"! And finally he saved the girls! Poor that cute girls, Tiese and Ronie, you are safe now! Raios and Humbert should have been tortured untill death, i would do this myself if i could! But was so satisfying watch Raios dying losing blood! And when their hands and arms flyed away with a large blood trail, they deserve that and even more! That strange head tracking ID appeared again! Their teacher cured Eogeo's eye and even adviced Kirito and Eogeo, didn't expect that! Alice shows up, finaly, but seems to not remember about them! |
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| Why did it got dark all of a sudden? |
| There's nothing I hate more than rape scenes in any movies or animes, they seriously piss me off, so as always I just skipped the entire rape part Although it wasn't an actual rape, I'm glad Eugeo acted in time, before they could've done that Also I'm so glad that piece of sh*t died, but I was hoping Kirito would kill Humbert too He lost an arm at least, he will definitely never disrespect Kirito and Eugeo again |
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SharafDan said: if im not mistaken. until the last of this arc wont be any rape again. but there will be a lot of bloodbath and more gore than before Fappa said: Well this episode certainly answered how gory & messed up the adaptation will be from here on out. They certainly didn't hold back, like jesus christ. Knowing what's ahead makes me almost scared. I legit felt discomfortable and disturbed during 3/4 of the episode which was the intended effect. Is there gonna be rape scenes ahead? I really don't mind being spoiled, I just want to know what to expect, because I can't handle rape and NTR. If our main girls are gonna be raped or even just kissed or licked again, that would be hard to handle! Please spoil me, Senpai! |
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Mr360AttAck said: prepare yourself dude, there will be a lot of bloodbath and darker than before. i guess the rating should be 17+ not 13 anymoreWhy did it got dark all of a sudden? |
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| This chapter earned my respect for SAO, better than goblin slayer :D |
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| I wouldn't even be mad if A-1 just stopped producing SAO right here and now and started using the budget for hentai. |
 "... Because when you live in this world of my closed eyes... ... Being alone is very lonely...". |
thebrentinator24 said: Sexual assault is fucked up, but I couldn't help but laugh at how ridiculous it was when Raios jumped onto the bed like that lol. That, and his ridiculously long tongue. If you want me to have a strong negative reaction you can't start it off that way lol. Anyway, those smug bastards finally got what they deserved, especially Raios (thank god he's dead). The things that happened to Eugeo with his eye, and Raios as he died, were interesting. Finally, Alice has arrived (she looks a lot like Saber from Fate). Realize they are artificial AI, they have a tongue bug xD |
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| I was so happy when i saw the rape warn at the start of episode LMAO |
| Was the episode censored in all versions or not? i downloaded it from horrible subs and there is some kind of blacked shadows |
| I'm mad because they did not get raped. I wanted them to be raped (because I heard they were raped the novel). Unfortunately, they have to change that so they don't hurt the feeling of some feminists |
IlyessKhalifa said: Was the episode censored in all versions or not? i downloaded it from horrible subs and there is some kind of blacked shadows There is less censored version if you search nyaa Horriblesubs version was so censored. THey zoomed on the rape scene and censored the gore. |
| Read the novel and knew what was coming but damnnn it is so much worse xD Let the rage of the anime community begin!! |
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