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| I can only agree that the pacing was slowed down towards the end. I generally liked the series, but it was a bit dull at times. Also, as you pointed out Luthimal, there were some really strange plot-twists, for example the death of Tsurugi, or rather how it happened. The story all in all was good, but some things just felt like they were thrown in, and didn't quite fit. |
| What an impressive ending I must say! I was rather sad when Sakura died but damn that ending sure was touching! Her goal has been reached and she returned to be a normal girl once again! These two last episode where the strongest in terms of development and information and I really liked how they presented it to the viewer! All in all a really great anime! 9/10 |
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| The ending was weak. The entire show was better in concept than execution. It takes an incredibly skilled writer to take something like this and turn it into a show that doesn't have the exposition problem that this one had. Finally when everything got rolling in the last episode it went silly when all the gel just reminded me of The Blob. I enjoyed the start but it fell off a cliff at the end. |
| Sakura's death seemed preventable and thus pointless- why is it that Key is able to cure a dying boy she has no emotional attachment to, but cannot be moved to save Sakura, who she cares about, with her enormous amounts of geist? Key's song seemed to trigger a localized Third Impact lol with the mutliple Keys running around etc. This episode was theatrical length, and theatrical in tone unlike the previous episodes and I mostly enjoyed it. I'm still not sure why Ajo wanted to replace Miho with a robot or why Miho went along with it, but I am just going to continue to take it as a metaphor for the treatment of idols. I actually didn't care a whole lot about Key by the end of the show, finding most of the other characters more interesting, like Sakura or even Ajo's goons. Music was nice and I liked the visual aesthetic. |
glassknucklesApr 5, 2018 12:42 AM
| well i dunno. i kinda liked the series as a whole. these two films were lackluster tho, but the scene where ajo's head was crushed was awesome. i wasn't expecting much from a low budget 90's ova though, the way this was released was pretty interesting as well. 7/10 as a whole, it's all right. it's unique, i'll give it that, plus the style was pretty influential considering it was released in 1994-1996. |
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| During episode 14 & 15, I hold my pee longer than when I'm watching Avenger:Endgame Super long last 2 episode was unnecessary but overall I gave it a 8. |
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| I really enjoyed this. The last 2 episodes were definitely too drawn out, and there were some really ridiculous moments, but it's obvious a lot of love was put into this, and there were many aspects of the show that I personally enjoyed.  |
| I bet this anime was made for TV but the station found it so poor that it canceled. Then the studio decided to release it as OVA the way it was. |
Rod_RussAug 19, 2019 12:34 PM
Rod_Russ said: I bet this anime was made for TV but the station found it so poor that it canceled. Then the studio decided to release it as OVA the way it was. it will would be release for tv on modern times look at one piece it's still on, I wonder if the Sakura voice actress wanted more money so they killed her off early |
| What an astounding mess of an ending. I can't even say it made me bitter towards the whole, because even during the low point of these past two episodes, the show has been full of moments that will stick with. It's just, the first 13 episodes were so well paced compared to it's ending. There's probably several reasons for that, but it does hurt a little. As others above have said, certain plot points like Sakura and Tsurugi's deaths don't really feel "Earned" or capitalised on. I'm not surprised that Tsurugi was treated that (honestly, I'm thankful that he got as much attention as he did, since I like his character), but Sakura is practically our second most important character. And the bringing back of the porn director of all people made this episode feel a little bit like a reunion for characters you'd expect to be forgotten about by this point, seriously. Though I did like the depiction of Key's friendship with the boy she saved. Actually, I think that should have been emphasised more because otherwise it was hard to get an emotional reaction from the events of the ending. The only character who hadn't died yet besides Key was Tataki. 8/10 I loved it, better than evangelion. |
| It's quite funny because some idol fans are literally selling their souls (same can be said about idols themselves) Key singing in that concert hall was some great pay-off. Also really liked that post ending scene. And well, despite the last two episodes where things went downhill in terms of pacing, I'm glad that I watched this series. It managed to be a memorable watch. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| After the adventure in Ajo's tower events seemed to rush along too quickly and at the end minor characters seem to be getting killed left and right just to remove them to wrap things up (Beniko just shows up dead on the floor for no reason). Even "D" is just disposed of after all the screentime he's gotten throughout the series. There are TV series that do quite a lot in 12 episode but this OVA with the running-time equivalent of about 20 episodes is too slow in many places, rushed and confusing in others, and in the end seems to abreviate answers to important questions (or just lacks them). There's some intertsting ideas here but the execution of the show is pretty poor. |
| I kind of stopped caring when Sakura died, thought it was interesting again when Key decided not to sing, but then she was forced to. Who was that girl in the school uniform next to Key at the end (Miho?) and this show really needed an epilogue. This episode dragged the show down a point or 2, 5/10. |
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| Man, there sure was something in the water in the 90s... 10/10 masterpiece, would use LCL GEL again. :^) |
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Equating idol singers to gods... it strikes me how silly Japanese Shintoism is. Every little inanimate object or concept has to be paired off with a 'god' empowered only by circular, paradoxical belief. The same could be said of all polytheistic religions, but this one has survived enough to influence modern thought. It's just stupid to deify blatantly mortal people whose intellects are worthless, and whose cultural importance is transient. Even talking about it makes me fool like an idiot, so I'm stopping.
On a more technical level, the series' pacing was slow toward the end. Plot exposition took entirely too long. Second to last episode had about an hour of straight talking. No significant animation, no actions, nothing about characters even. Just guys revealing disappointing information.
fun fact: Sakura's apartment remained a safehouse after she was captured and identified by the corporation. This corporation declined the opportunity to use its robot strike team (??) to invade. All of Tokyo's millions, and only handful of people in a couple locations matter.
When stuff finally started happening, I was yet again disappointed. The super-artist died randomly, because the main characters decided to be bastards, and Sakura died because DRAMA. I know she had the lifeforce mumbo-jumbo sucked out of her, presumably so it could be used for more pop concerts, but she lived long enough to be rescued. She could have lived another hour until the show ended if the writers weren't angsty nerds.
I generally disliked "Key" in the later parts. This change of heart wasn't solely because the quality lowered, although that played a part. The things I liked -- oppressive urban setting, cool musical direction, classic robot-human dilemma, themes of corporate corruption -- became too repetitive. If more people made fiction like this, I would never have liked it. Being alternative isn't the same as being good, even if at first it seems refreshing.
5/10 -_-
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Equating idol singers to gods... it strikes me how silly Japanese Shintoism is. Every little inanimate object or concept has to be paired off with a 'god' empowered only by circular, paradoxical belief. The same could be said of all polytheistic religions, but this one has survived enough to influence modern thought. It's just stupid to deify blatantly mortal people whose intellects are worthless, and whose cultural importance is transient. Even talking about it makes me fool like an idiot, so I'm stopping.
On a more technical level, the series' pacing was slow toward the end. Plot exposition took entirely too long. Second to last episode had about an hour of straight talking. No significant animation, no actions, nothing about characters even. Just guys revealing disappointing information.
fun fact: Sakura's apartment remained a safehouse after she was captured and identified by the corporation. This corporation declined the opportunity to use its robot strike team (??) to invade. All of Tokyo's millions, and only handful of people in a couple locations matter.
When stuff finally started happening, I was yet again disappointed. The super-artist died randomly, because the main characters decided to be bastards, and Sakura died because DRAMA. I know she had the lifeforce mumbo-jumbo sucked out of her, presumably so it could be used for more pop concerts, but she lived long enough to be rescued. She could have lived another hour until the show ended if the writers weren't angsty nerds.
I generally disliked "Key" in the later parts. This change of heart wasn't solely because the quality lowered, although that played a part. The things I liked -- oppressive urban setting, cool musical direction, classic robot-human dilemma, themes of corporate corruption -- became too repetitive. If more people made fiction like this, I would never have liked it. Being alternative isn't the same as being good, even if at first it seems refreshing.
5/10 -_-
| @thisiodfkln I think the metaphor still makes a lot of sense from a sociological and psychological viewpoint, that's what the business is all about and why they're even called IDOLS. Fans worship their favorite celebrities (in general) like they're gods, defending them from any criticism, treating them like they're above any other human being just because they're popular, falling in love despite never meeting them... Especially in East Asian countries like Japan where they're literally forced to be perfect, seriously, look up how K-Pop and J-Pop Idols are treated. It's not the most original symbolism but it works for the story being told. Also, those people were invaded because of their connection with Key, Ajo knew they were directly helping her achieve her goal. If they attacked Sakura's house, Key would've made the robots go berserk again. Tsurugi also died because of his obsession with Key, she was desperate to save Sakura and he got himself in danger. I think the show explored It's themes very well, the only problem was episode 14 just telling us everything through an info dump instead of showing it, that and the supporting cast not being developed enough/their development feeling a bit rushed. Wish they delved more into things like Sakura finding her dream, Wakagi's history with Sergei or Tataki distancing himself from the fanclub. Otherwise I think the show was great, I give it a 9/10. Underrated. |
AzafuseKingToraAug 15, 3:08 PM
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I bet this anime was made for TV but the station found it so poor that it canceled. Then the studio decided to release it as OVA the way it was.
| @Rod_Russ There's an interview with the director, he said they chose the OVA format from the start. |
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