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Whoh...
Guilty Crown. Vowed to watch it since 2012. Took me 3 years to actually do it. I regret nothing.

Except perhaps the ending. At first glance, it seems just sad. Saved the word - lost your girl, some friends, eyesight, and an arm. Don't forget them super powers. Sucks to be you, kiddo.

"BUT WAIT!" I asked myself. Does this overly realistic, down to earth, unrewarding, crappy ending really fit the anime? Granted, it has a bleak atmosphere, but all the supernatural elements and overall creativity allows space for an ending with a similar flow. You know, a rewarding ending. Something that doesn't have to make too much sense in order to get the good ending.

So, after looking at finer details of the anime and doing research I could somewhat label "adequate", I decided to pile it all to get a less crappy ending that does not stab the gut. Indeed, after this, the ending can somewhat be labeled good. But that is all up to you to decide.

Thus, without any further gibberish, I invite you to a loooong section containing even MORE GIBBERISH!* (depending on how you see it). Buckle your seat belts, it's gonna be a bumpy ride...

Guilty Crown Ending- Personal Interpretation/Explanation


Alright. Let us first begin by defining who or what Inory was. Inory was an artificially made human body that was supposed to serve as a vessel to transfer Mana's consciousness into. You can also label that as soul. So basically, Inory was just a husk waiting for the soul to be put into it. Before that could happen however, she was rescued by Gai and exposed to "the outer world". Presumingly being completely made in the lab, Inory never had a childhood nor any social experience. Thus, she lacked emotion and personality, which continued making her a soulless husk (metaphorically).



So she ran with the Funeral Parlor, carrying out her tasks like a machine she was. However, after meeting Shu Ouma, she was exposed to more or less normal social experiences. She started developing a personality, and started displaying emotion. She was no longer an artificially made machine - she was now a unique (human) being. She fell in love with Shu because he was "heartbreakingly human", who has "shown her the bad and the good of this world." Basically, she loves him because he taught her how to be a human, and this in turn made her feel like one and come to terms with her artificial origin. Being human, aka having a SOUL, was Inory's most valued essence. It is what "made her whole". Note: Inory always had a soul, but relatively to others, she almost didn't. It just kept her alive, not special.



Now let that sink in for a moment and let's move on to the voids. Voids are the manifestations of people's personalities, souls, hearts, complexes, etc., basically whatever makes a person unique described in one object. A particular void we should be interested in here is that of Yahiro's - the elephant grade shears. These shears are able to cut the "strings of life" of a person directly. Let us remember the scene where Shu talks to Jun in what appears to be some sort of a "spiritual lobby". Surrounding Jun are red, faintly glowing strings of life essence arranged in shape of helix, or DNA. If you cut the strings, the body loses life and becomes a corpse (or crystallizes, doesn't matter). At this point, one has to ask; do those strings of life represent simple rights and metabolic functions to live, or do they neatly carry all meanings of life aka soul, personality, conscience. My answer to that would be the latter. Why?



Remember how Shu killed Segai with the shears. The shears do NO PHYSICAL DAMAGE. They appear to pass through the body and right into the SOUL, which we can also, at this point, call Life, and are used to cut the red strings that represent it. Thus, by cutting the strings of life, you actually destroy the soul of the person. A body is useless without one. Everyone has it, even Inory. So that much we know about the red, glowing, helix shaped strings of life.



Fast forward towards the end. After the battle with Gai, Shu kills him. Mana dies due to this as well, since Gai was using her void at the time, as explained HERE (Thank you @Esper). This in turn begins to slowly crystallize Inory's body since she was the host of Mana's soul at the time. (The reason it did not happen instantly is, as stated in episode 11, the blood in her body has resistance to the virus. That, and the fact that there were TWO souls in her body at once, and only one of them died - Mana.) Knowing that Inory's body will die soon, Shu chose to die with her and decided to sacrifice his own body to annihilate the virus once and for all by absorbing it all. (Please notice how I'm using weird expressions of body instead of just saying death). It would seem like the two are about to die together, and that would be the end of it, but Inory had a different plan in her mind...



Before such ending could happen, we see Shu and Inory together in, again, what seems to be a "spiritual lobby", which is somewhat similar to the one in Shu and Jun's meeting in terms of concept. Inory shows Shu a RED, faintly GLOWING STRING in the shape of a Cat's Eye (string figure), or what I would prefer to call an open eye. That, is in fact, her very own string of life. Her soul. And she is giving it to him.



Now lets review our knowledge of those red strings of life. You CUT them, you destroy a persons soul (life) and basically kill them. So, what happens if, instead of cutting them, you TAKE them? What DO you GAIN? An extra life to live, like in Mario? No. You are taking the SOUL of the person. Their CONSCIOUSNESS in a way.



At this point, it is tempting to think that she gave him his rights to live, as he was going to die. But at that point, both were alive, and what she was giving to him was not a life he can use to throw at the virus like a bone it can chew on instead of his own. The virus needed a BODY sacrifice (got the reference now?). The crystals were forming on the BODY of the person, not his soul, and thus are not related.

So what DID Inory do? She decided to give Shu her SOUL, and use her (already dying) body as a sacrifice the virus needed as a vessel to get trapped in. What hints this, aside from what I have stated earlier? The Opening Theme Song! "So everything that makes me whole, I'll now give to you. I'm yours". WHAT makes Inory "whole"? The thing that she values the MOST. It is her SOUL. What she has developed thanks to Shu. The strings represent both her life and her soul, thus by giving it to him, she basically transferred herself into his body. Shu's body now has two souls - Shu's and Inory's, together. "I'm yours." She literally is now.



BUT HOLD ON. Now that sounds just bizarre. Can two souls even live in one body? YES!! Best example you can get is Mana's soul that was in Inory's body! They were sharing the same body, and were able to communicate with each other and control the body (to an extent). BUT WAIT! How did the soul transfer between Inory and Shu even take place?



Going back to the white wedding, gentlemen! Episode 12. Inory's body is covered in some sort of a hexagon wedding cloth that appears to be transferring some sort of RED, GLOWING STRINGS into Inory's body. What are they? You guessed it! They are Mana's life strings! Her soul being transferred to Inory's body, which turned out later, to be a SUCCESS! Mana was GIVING her SOUL to Inory! Or technically, forcibly stuffing her own soul into Inory's body, making it have two souls. You get the idea.



So what conclusions we have so far? The red strings of life DO represent the soul (and consciousness) of a person. Giving it to someone else means transferring the soul to that someone's body. And that's exactly what Inory did to Shu in the last moment! Why? So they don't have to stop existing! Because, you know, if they would just leave it at that, they would both die, and stay like that...
Basically, Inory saved us from a really crappy, down to earth ending! Hooray! Sadly, not many people will applaud this. The fact is so subtle that I cannot blame anyone for thinking it was what they thought it was - a non-rewarding, realistic, dull ending.

"HOLD IT, hardhat. Where's your proof ya back-pokin' snake!". The have I do proof, officer. *hick*

Let's look at some solid images. Last episode. Shu is listening to Inory's music. A scene shows up where Shu is hugging Inory... in, AGAIN, a place that seems to be some sort of a "spiritual lobby". Indeed! Check it out, it even has the same blue-white clouds that were also present when Shu was talking to Jun in the spiritual lobby.



You might argue that that is just his imagination according to the song, or it is his memories, BUT here is why I find that quite unlikely. First, it cannot be his memories, as this is the first time he is hugging her in that brown jacket of his (lel), and in that spiritual lobby space thingy. Second, why can't it be imagination?! Simple! The blue-white clouds give it away! Shu seems to be present in the same place as when he was when talking to Jun. You think that he just imagined the whole conversation with Jun? Oh boy, that would not be any good. It would basically mean that Shu only thought in his head that Jun wanted to die, while Jun was actually begging for mercy. That's just silly. At this point, I would like to point out that YES, the "spiritual lobby" exists in the anime, and that's where TWO SOULS MEET EACH OTHER. To talk, and stuff... And that's exactly what we see in the ending scene as the SOUL OF SHU embraces the SOUL OF INORY, who is always with him now, as they share one body.

"Is this the best you got, little man?". Yes. Iii mean - NO!! One more, less solid but never the less stable proof that I have is Shu's mentality. What have we learned about Shu throughout the whole anime? He is VERY emotional. He has social problems. He is always in his head and thinks too deep about useless things. He gets hurt easily, and his personality can change on a whim!



Just remember when Hare died. He COMPLETELY changed himself - all his ideals and his personality. From a good hearted wimp to an iron-fist dictator in just a moment's flash! As you can see, he gets affected REALLY EASILY, and REALLY DEEPLY. Remember the Lost Christmas? He was so devastated that he forgot the whole event! Even the fact that he had a sister! And some crazy blonde hair dude that fate decided to kick right into what he tried to escape! Hah, talk about life and its lemons!



So what conclusion can we extract from this? Let's run a simulation for that!

Imagine, Shu, with all those mental problems that he has, has:
-Lost the love of his life - Inory,
-Lost his eyesight,
-Lost his right arm,
-Lost two of his best friends,
-Lost his king ability (debatable),
-Seen all the catastrophes of the event,
-And was forced to change his entire personality and nature just to use the power he never wanted and stand up for its responsibilities he never wanted to take, all in a relatively short amount of time.

Now, if he was traumatized in Lost Christmas, then THIS would make Lost Christmas look like Disneyland. The kid would SNAP! Indeed, certain arguments exist against my conclusion - that he has matured greatly from that time, and that a few years have passed over Inory's apparent "death" so he could have gotten over it. But DID HE get over her? No! He was listening to her music! In harmony! He was smiling! He was HAPPY after ALL THAT!! WHY?!



Because Inory didn't "die"! Well, her body may have been destroyed, but her SOUL lives within Shu's body. Two souls together, not letting go, just as the theme song says in the end. She still "lives", and THAT'S why Shu did not snap. I don't know about you, but judging Shu's personality, he would never allow himself to be in peace if Inory would be gone forever. That, OR he would have forgotten her existence due to trauma - which is clearly shown not to be true.



And such is, ladies and gentlemen, my interpretation/theory/explanation of the ending. Gimme a round of applauds! Followed by a round of flying tomatoes! And maybe even watermelons, just for the variety!

Now, the ending I have proposed may seem waaaaay too subtle. It might indeed be simpler to say that the writers simply became unimaginative towards the end and finished off the anime quickly, and the obvious ending is the true ending. But in my opinion, the writers are far from that. There is a fair number of subtle messages in this anime. For instance, the shape that Inory and Mana present to Shu in the beginning of the anime using strings is called Jacob's Ladder. It represents the staircase to heaven according to the book of Genesis. By asking Shu to take it, they imply that he should accept the (guilty) crown and be the king of the new world. Ascension to Godhood perhaps, but that's just my interpretation. In the end however, Inory, using the life strings, gives him a shape of an open eye (or Cat's Eye, from a string game called Cat's Cradle). When Shu takes it, IT'SA TRAP! HAHAH! Well, sort of. As he takes it, the eye shape "closes" (Fish in a Dish string figure). Aside from being a foreshadowing of the rest of his life, a closed eye also means he is relieved from his unwanted duty of being the king. Closed eye (which also means blind) also means innocence. The Innocence that Shu was striving for for so long. It was his redemption from the responsibilities he never wanted to take. It meant he no longer had to be the king. It meant that he should no longer be "guilty". This is just one of the examples of how the anime writers used such subtle elements to summarize and represent bigger pictures. Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if they used the same technique to make a clever, complex (but not really necessary) ending.



That is all to my theory, really. But before you go, or before you throw watermelons at me, I would like to mention Mass Effect 3. Lolwut? Look at the similarities! Both ME3 and Guilty Crown seem to have awful, down to Earth, dull endings. But that's what we see with an untrained eye and on-flow mind.
I would like to refer you to the "Mass Effect 3 - Indoctrination Theory".
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZOyeFvnhiI
Watch it! (of course, if you know ME3 and how it ended). The theory collects all the very small and specific details of the game's story and environment to reveal that the obvious may not be obvious at all! It is a really plausible theory that has some solid proof to it. It instantly makes the ending of Mass Effect 3 from god awful to pure genius! And I say the same MAY, JUST MAY exist for Guilty Crown. I have faith in the writers. But I'm not in such stance because of them. I'm here because I made research on my theory and it seems plausible. Granted, it may not be very solid. And I'm sure you may have some counter arguments (we'll get to that later), but so far, it makes sense to me.



You see, Guilty Crown is not a realistic anime enough to make such a realistic end. You know - where "people die, they die, get over it kiddo". It sounds acceptable because the anime comes close to such atmosphere but not quite. No, not when you consider the whole picture of the anime. It is futuristic, sci-fi. Its not realistic. It doesn't even come close to realism. Thus, for me, the ending seemed too down to Earth to be acceptable for such an anime. It seemed too simple. It was out of line. It did not align itself with the anime's general writing creativity - the flow, the atmosphere. Thus, I (I) believe that the interpretation I have proposed is actually acceptable to the anime's story and overall logic. It fits. There is reasonable proof to it. And the assumptions can apply to the logic of the anime. The other, more common ending interpretations fit as well, but seem rather out of place. Unsatisfying. Shu losing nearly all and is forced to live like that - dull and cruel for no reason. Both dying - better than previous ending, yet still saddening. So yeah (lel).

That's all folks! If you've actually read it all, pat yourself on the back! Trust me, not every human being is given such a unique ability to READ EVERYTHING FULLY. Especially if it is any longer than a paragraph. REMEMBER! This is just my interpretation. It can be completely wrong, BUT I would GLADLY listen to YOUR counter arguments, as long as you REMEMBER to do it like a civilized being. The reputation of the community behind Guilty Crown is infamous. It is true that you either love or hate the anime. So please. It is obvious that I loved the anime, so don't try to point me at it's unrelated-to-the-topic plot holes, inconsistencies, clichés and inconveniences. My opinion won't change on whether I liked it or not. So if you are going to debunk my theory, use the proper facts and proof format rather than bluntly stating that I'm wrong then calling me weird names in the desperate hopes to show off the size of your e-peen. And I've seen that happening, so I'm warning you.

Good day, folks!






I know im a bit late to the draw here (20 fucking 17 at that) but I have other evidence that might indicate this theory is wrong but Im just gonna point out the obvious. "Guilty crown" The name of this anime, what does it mean? Well, we all know what guilty means, and accepting such a crown would name you the king of guilt. Since shu accepted such a crown (in my opinion, on accident), this would imply that while he may not actually be guilty about something, he certainly FEELS guilty about something. After all, what is a guilty crown without guilt? Why would he feel guilty if he inori supposedly lives inside of him? That said, I think most of what you theorize is correct. That the strings they have do symbolize souls. But I would sooner think that the crystally shit needs a soul as a sacrifice to get disappear than I would a simple human body. And inori uses her soul as a sort of replacement for Shu's.
Other than that, I think that your other parallels are likely misinterpretations. For example, when you look at shu listening to music near the end, I see that more as a personal reflexion on his past and a sort of honoring of Inori rather than anything else.
I apologize for any spelling errors or repetition, Im a lil high
Sep 27, 2017 8:17 AM

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I know im a bit late to the draw here (20 fucking 17 at that) but I have other evidence that might indicate this theory is wrong but Im just gonna point out the obvious. "Guilty crown" The name of this anime, what does it mean? Well, we all know what guilty means, and accepting such a crown would name you the king of guilt. Since shu accepted such a crown (in my opinion, on accident), this would imply that while he may not actually be guilty about something, he certainly FEELS guilty about something. After all, what is a guilty crown without guilt? Why would he feel guilty if he inori supposedly lives inside of him? That said, I think most of what you theorize is correct. That the strings they have do symbolize souls. But I would sooner think that the crystally shit needs a soul as a sacrifice to get disappear than I would a simple human body. And inori uses her soul as a sort of replacement for Shu's.
Other than that, I think that your other parallels are likely misinterpretations. For example, when you look at shu listening to music near the end, I see that more as a personal reflexion on his past and a sort of honoring of Inori rather than anything else.
I apologize for any spelling errors or repetition, Im a lil high


Yeesh, could you please remove the part where you quote the entire theory? It fills like half of the page and is really unpractical.

As for what you have stated:
Guilty Crown's meaning is an interpretation. Its meaning can change according to different people, as the "Guilty Crown" itself does not exist as an object in the anime itself, nor has the term itself been ever explained or even mentioned in the plot by any characters. You can associate it with many parts and themes of the anime, but as it is not defined or represented specifically/directly, you are rather free to associate/connect it to the anime on your own.

I don't see how the name Guilty Crown specifies, and thus, rules over everything in the anime, especially the ending. If anything, the name of the anime is basically the result of someone being asked to describe the whole anime in just two words, resulting in these two relevant words - but you certainly throw away anything specific. In order for it to directly reference or influence the ending or specific events in the anime, the name should contain that event in it, or be directly relevant to it. Like naming a movie Apocalypse as that movie ends with an Apocalypse. Otherwise, the name on its own is like tasting a tiny drop of a meal. Nothing specific, just describes the overall, general taste in tiny, insignificant strength. Even if you name a movie Apocalypse it doesn't guarantee it ending with an apocalypse - it may even not be anything about the end of the world, instead focusing on the end of the world of one person, aka their life the way they see it. So the name of a story or movie or anime certainly doesn't have that much power over every bit of it.

Putting this all together, the name "Guilty Crown" does not, in my opinion, describe the anime at every second of it. In fact - "guilt" hardly even crossed my mind while watching it, as I viewed Shu as feeling scared rather than feeling guilty. There are many, if not most times where the name wouldn't relate with the ongoing scene. The name is just a summary, and summary evens out the inconsistencies or just ignores them, which doesn't mean it has control over it all. Naming the anime Guilty Crown doesn't mean Shu will forever be associated with Guilty Crown. Towards the end, he was no longer the king, thus no Crown. And neither was he sad or depressed, so no Guilt. No Guilty Crown at the end. Neither at the start. Or at parts where he lost his ability. Or when he lost his mentality. Really - the name can't really influence all like that - it is just a summary that ignores variables and tries to fit all into the same uniform, but that's all it does. It is more of an ID that represents the story. A flag that represents a country's resources for instance. But it doesn't mean that all the country is about is just those resources. It skims over an insane amount of detail, most of which is not relevant to the resources at all.

Moving on to the souls - you stated your theory but you didn't provide evidence. From what I saw - the souls of people never crystallized just like their bodies. If the crystals needed souls, I'd think they would form on the soul representation of the person rather than their body, or at the very least the soul would be affected by the crystallization as well, replicating the crystallization of the body on itself as well or displaying the effects of it like missing affected limbs or showing a relevant imparity. Yet we don't see that. While Jun's body was dying, his spirit was fully awake, active, and unharmed/untouched by the crystallization. Not even any visible side effect like maybe missing limbs or speech problems were seen on his soul. So going from the little we have, it seems to me that it would be more logical to go with the body sacrifice approach than the soul sacrifice approach, because with the former we have some observations that lead to logical conclusions, while with the latter we don't have anything other than speculation (at least - you didn't say why you think so, so I don't know what makes you think otherwise).

As for Shu's ending, it could be that indeed, but it doesn't really reflect on the past at all. Nothing in that scene really reflects upon the past of Shu. No elements shared. They could've used flashbacks if it was memory, or imagination - or at the very least they could've used a different background for the place the "reflection" happens. Yet instead the artists decided to (by no accident, as artists have complete control over their creations) that the scene where Shu hugs Inory looks quite similar to the once where we saw souls interacting with each other - containing similar drawn elements and context. Shu's clothing also gives it away, in a way, meaning it can't be a flashback or memory, but that is a lesser point. So in the end - while it is true that it could've been just his imagination, displaying his reflection on his past and Inori - the artists could've at least chosen a different art style to separate it from the spiritual lobby. Artists always draw things differently when introducing a new concept. Keep in mind that this "reflection" imagination scene never really happened before the ending in the anime - not even once before that. We had flashbacks in the anime, but they were represented much differently, like full, lively worlds rather than isolated floaty zones, so it can't be a flashback/memory. What also happened many times is the spiritual lobby, and since this scene was similar to it and wasn't presented differently visually, it wouldn't be an illogical guess that it is also a spiritual lobby. I mean - they presented the flashbacks and the spiritual lobby differently. Why wouldn't they represent a self-reflection/imagination differently? That and the fact that while flashbacks and spiritual lobbies happened often enough and were definitely a characteristic of the anime, what you call a self-reflection/imagination scene happened only once, and at the end. It wouldn't make sense. It would come out of nowhere - stick out for no good reason other than being alien.

Thing is, if you notice in books, anime and movies, things like flashbacks, reflections, imagination, etc. - they aren't one-time events. If a story contains a flashback - it will contain many flashback sections. It won't be just one. It is an element of the story, a feature of it, a characteristic of it that will keep happening every now and then. Using such an event just once is weird and inconsistent. Destroys the flow, feels and acts illogically to the, by then, established characteristics of the story. Devoting a long part of the story to a single flashback would justify having the event only appear once as it is then a significant part of the story, but only using a flashback once at all for a short time is just senseless. Never seen that happening.

So for them to constantly show a repeated event of spiritual lobbies is perfectly normal as it is then a part of the anime, it is it's characteristic. For them to suddenly throw in this short, one time self-reflection or imagination scene that never happened before at the end without making any difference in presentation while sharing elements from already established characteristics of the anime (spiritual world) would not make much sense at all, at least in my opinion.

Overall I'm glad that my theory is challenged, but you will have to provide support (evidence) as well as some better reasoning (in my opinion) behind your alternative theories. I am fully aware that my theory is just that - my theory, that could very possibly be wrong. But the conclusions I made stemmed from finding support and reasoning in the way I could, and challenging them to test them.
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I know im a bit late to the draw here (20 fucking 17 at that) but I have other evidence that might indicate this theory is wrong but Im just gonna point out the obvious. "Guilty crown" The name of this anime, what does it mean? Well, we all know what guilty means, and accepting such a crown would name you the king of guilt. Since shu accepted such a crown (in my opinion, on accident), this would imply that while he may not actually be guilty about something, he certainly FEELS guilty about something. After all, what is a guilty crown without guilt? Why would he feel guilty if he inori supposedly lives inside of him? That said, I think most of what you theorize is correct. That the strings they have do symbolize souls. But I would sooner think that the crystally shit needs a soul as a sacrifice to get disappear than I would a simple human body. And inori uses her soul as a sort of replacement for Shu's.
Other than that, I think that your other parallels are likely misinterpretations. For example, when you look at shu listening to music near the end, I see that more as a personal reflexion on his past and a sort of honoring of Inori rather than anything else.
I apologize for any spelling errors or repetition, Im a lil high


There's also a false assumption here that "Guilty Crown" means one thing or that one thing is constant over the course of the show. Off the top of my head I can think of 3 or 4 interpretations that are also valid. The title could refer to the fact that Mana - AKA Eve, mother of orignal sin/guilt - is seeking to bestow a crown upon her new Adam; or it could refer to how both Shu and Gai only choose to take up the crown and become king due to their sense of guilt (being unable to protect Hare/Mana respectively); it could also reference how Shu becomes a Messianic figure toward the end of the series, taking the sins/guilt of the world upon himself.

To the OP, if you're still reading this, I wonder what you think about the Crucifixion imagery that is associated with Inori (OP1 and she's tied to a cross whenever she's captured) and what it means. Could Inori be the real Christ figure of this show? She's after all the one who ultimately takes on the world's sins, and she could be with Shu in a sort of abstract, deific way rather than actually having her soul transfer. Another thing that occured to me is that Inori is a trinity incarnate -- she is at once Eve (via Mana), the Virgin (she is immaculate via her lack of knowledge of anything, sin included, and she gives "birth" to Shu), and the Magdalene (she is the Magdalene to Shu's Christ). Do you think there's anything to be made of that?
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I know im a bit late to the draw here (20 fucking 17 at that) but I have other evidence that might indicate this theory is wrong but Im just gonna point out the obvious. "Guilty crown" The name of this anime, what does it mean? Well, we all know what guilty means, and accepting such a crown would name you the king of guilt. Since shu accepted such a crown (in my opinion, on accident), this would imply that while he may not actually be guilty about something, he certainly FEELS guilty about something. After all, what is a guilty crown without guilt? Why would he feel guilty if he inori supposedly lives inside of him? That said, I think most of what you theorize is correct. That the strings they have do symbolize souls. But I would sooner think that the crystally shit needs a soul as a sacrifice to get disappear than I would a simple human body. And inori uses her soul as a sort of replacement for Shu's.
Other than that, I think that your other parallels are likely misinterpretations. For example, when you look at shu listening to music near the end, I see that more as a personal reflexion on his past and a sort of honoring of Inori rather than anything else.
I apologize for any spelling errors or repetition, Im a lil high


There's also a false assumption here that "Guilty Crown" means one thing or that one thing is constant over the course of the show. Off the top of my head I can think of 3 or 4 interpretations that are also valid. The title could refer to the fact that Mana - AKA Eve, mother of orignal sin/guilt - is seeking to bestow a crown upon her new Adam; or it could refer to how both Shu and Gai only choose to take up the crown and become king due to their sense of guilt (being unable to protect Hare/Mana respectively); it could also reference how Shu becomes a Messianic figure toward the end of the series, taking the sins/guilt of the world upon himself.

To the OP, if you're still reading this, I wonder what you think about the Crucifixion imagery that is associated with Inori (OP1 and she's tied to a cross whenever she's captured) and what it means. Could Inori be the real Christ figure of this show? She's after all the one who ultimately takes on the world's sins, and she could be with Shu in a sort of abstract, deific way rather than actually having her soul transfer. Another thing that occured to me is that Inori is a trinity incarnate -- she is at once Eve (via Mana), the Virgin (she is immaculate via her lack of knowledge of anything, sin included, and she gives "birth" to Shu), and the Magdalene (she is the Magdalene to Shu's Christ). Do you think there's anything to be made of that?


While I'm not much into religion, from the little I know - that is quite plausible. Many, many story writers like to reference the bible, and anime is no exception.

I could see Inori representing Christ - as it is indeed her who took all the sins, not Shu. While Shu took them - he didn't pay for them - she did. She sacrificed her life for them. She is also a being not exactly of human origin. She was grown in a lab. Christ wasn't conceived naturally either. So yeah, it could be looked like that. Would that bring us somewhere else? I'm not sure. My knowledge of religion is limited - I'm not a believer. I think this just reinforces the ongoing events by allowing you to make a reference. As in - if an ongoing plot point is complex - the writers can construct it in a way that can make it resemble something else that a lot of people know (like the Christian bible) so they can make the connections and understand the ongoing plot better or even predict it. I don't think it opens some point we wouldn't be able to see without it, but I digress.

As for the rest - the Eve, Virgin, birth to Shu - I don't know. Though seeing how I liked the Christ association with Inori - she then can't be the Virgin or all 3 together.

I mean - if you're going in that view - you have the lead here as you know more than I do in religion.
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Your theory just saved the "crappy" (been hearing about it a lot lately) ending. It was a remarkable interpretation.

Did Shu really wanted to rule an iron fist dictatorship? While he could easily let slip when Ayase slapped her. He told her that if anyone was around he would punish her, that means the whole dictatorship thing was an act to keep everyone under his command. He even would cry to Inori because even himself couldn't stand what he was doing as the Council President. His goal was to let the students exit the Tokyo area (If it was Tokyo, I could barely remember).

It may be true that he lost his King's ability, although you said it's still debatable. As explained in the early episodes it's unclear why the void could only be extracted in younger individuals, seventeen to be exact. Shu is 17 in the Anime, so one year after that he may have lost his void, and maybe alongside with his ability. (Still unexplained tho.)

Please forgive me for my dull memory, I could only remember the important details whenever I watch animes, not the exact ones tho.😩😩

Howevever Xspy70, dude that's quite an awesome article. 💯
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Riusen-Keima said:
Your theory just saved the "crappy" (been hearing about it a lot lately) ending. It was a remarkable interpretation.

Did Shu really wanted to rule an iron fist dictatorship? While he could easily let slip when Ayase slapped her. He told her that if anyone was around he would punish her, that means the whole dictatorship thing was an act to keep everyone under his command. He even would cry to Inori because even himself couldn't stand what he was doing as the Council President. His goal was to let the students exit the Tokyo area (If it was Tokyo, I could barely remember).

It may be true that he lost his King's ability, although you said it's still debatable. As explained in the early episodes it's unclear why the void could only be extracted in younger individuals, seventeen to be exact. Shu is 17 in the Anime, so one year after that he may have lost his void, and maybe alongside with his ability. (Still unexplained tho.)

Please forgive me for my dull memory, I could only remember the important details whenever I watch animes, not the exact ones tho.😩😩

Howevever Xspy70, dude that's quite an awesome article. 💯


Thanks!

I think Shu did snap a little at that point.

They were behind walls. Time was running out. Supplies were running out. Shu knew this but tried to play it civil. But when a group of low leveled void owners disobeyed warnings and went on their own to prove their worth - an event that got Hare killed (who was extremely important for Shu) - he snapped.

At that point - his value for humanity dropped - as we can see how he treated everyone and even his friends. He blamed them for Hare's death. So he emphasized time and supplies running short - and that to get outside the walls a one big, coordinated, suicidal charge may be needed. In order to convince others to go on such a suicide mission - he became a dictator to insure obedience and force them to do it.

Now I can see how you can say this was all rational thinking. But this is way out of character for Shu (though it makes sense plot wise). He wouldn't do this unless something screwed him up in mind real bad (like Hare's death). His view on his current situation changed from optimistic to bleak fast. Under such a mentality - his appreciation for human life decreased, and he became less patient and optimistic. It was a phase. Indeed - as you pointed out - he didn't want to be a dictator - he just wanted to get everyone out. And when he saw that the nice approach led to death of his dear friend - he changed his tactic. He was forced to become an iron fist dictator due to the dire circumstances and his own mental stability.

As for the void extraction part - yeah that may be true. I think it may also be related to the age of the King's ability wielder himself. Perhaps the ability only materializes someone's void if the King can relate and understand the people? Describe them in one object? But if there is a big age difference - he wouldn't understand and describe adults or babies who are too complex or not yet developed for him to describe in one object respectively.

However - that's just fun thinking. I think the real reason for that rule is just plot. To keep adults out of the anime for the most part and have most of the characters young. How many animes do you see where most of the people are real adults?
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Well Thank You sooo much for this perfect interpretation. It allowed me not to feel Guilty as much as before :) I also went to youtube to promote your interpretation so that other people can have a peace of mind.

Thank You Again

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Xspy70 said:
Riusen-Keima said:
Your theory just saved the "crappy" (been hearing about it a lot lately) ending. It was a remarkable interpretation.

Did Shu really wanted to rule an iron fist dictatorship? While he could easily let slip when Ayase slapped her. He told her that if anyone was around he would punish her, that means the whole dictatorship thing was an act to keep everyone under his command. He even would cry to Inori because even himself couldn't stand what he was doing as the Council President. His goal was to let the students exit the Tokyo area (If it was Tokyo, I could barely remember).

It may be true that he lost his King's ability, although you said it's still debatable. As explained in the early episodes it's unclear why the void could only be extracted in younger individuals, seventeen to be exact. Shu is 17 in the Anime, so one year after that he may have lost his void, and maybe alongside with his ability. (Still unexplained tho.)

Please forgive me for my dull memory, I could only remember the important details whenever I watch animes, not the exact ones tho.😩😩

Howevever Xspy70, dude that's quite an awesome article. 💯


Thanks!

I think Shu did snap a little at that point.

They were behind walls. Time was running out. Supplies were running out. Shu knew this but tried to play it civil. But when a group of low leveled void owners disobeyed warnings and went on their own to prove their worth - an event that got Hare killed (who was extremely important for Shu) - he snapped.

At that point - his value for humanity dropped - as we can see how he treated everyone and even his friends. He blamed them for Hare's death. So he emphasized time and supplies running short - and that to get outside the walls a one big, coordinated, suicidal charge may be needed. In order to convince others to go on such a suicide mission - he became a dictator to insure obedience and force them to do it.

Now I can see how you can say this was all rational thinking. But this is way out of character for Shu (though it makes sense plot wise). He wouldn't do this unless something screwed him up in mind real bad (like Hare's death). His view on his current situation changed from optimistic to bleak fast. Under such a mentality - his appreciation for human life decreased, and he became less patient and optimistic. It was a phase. Indeed - as you pointed out - he didn't want to be a dictator - he just wanted to get everyone out. And when he saw that the nice approach led to death of his dear friend - he changed his tactic. He was forced to become an iron fist dictator due to the dire circumstances and his own mental stability.

As for the void extraction part - yeah that may be true. I think it may also be related to the age of the King's ability wielder himself. Perhaps the ability only materializes someone's void if the King can relate and understand the people? Describe them in one object? But if there is a big age difference - he wouldn't understand and describe adults or babies who are too complex or not yet developed for him to describe in one object respectively.

However - that's just fun thinking. I think the real reason for that rule is just plot. To keep adults out of the anime for the most part and have most of the characters young. How many animes do you see where most of the people are real adults?


Oh and also, I think you should watch the OAV because if I remember correctly, whetever it is the king of the OAV or Gai, the 2 of them seem older than 17 and in the OAV (carefull SPOILER: the king extract a void from a dog) so I think that the void extraction part is a bit contradictory.

Well, have a good day ;-)
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Oh and also, I think you should watch the OAV because if I remember correctly, whetever it is the king of the OAV or Gai, the 2 of them seem older than 17 and in the OAV (carefull SPOILER: the king extract a void from a dog) so I think that the void extraction part is a bit contradictory.

Well, have a good day ;-)


Oh? Didn't know that. Yeah I didn't watch the OAV, and the stuff I wrote is all based on the research I did 3 years ago. I think the OAV wasn't available to me at the time, or I didn't know it existed. The answers in the comments are mostly all off the top of my mind. I surprisingly still remember most of it, but I never really went back to rewatch the episodes (unless for a specific detail) to answer the comments.

From what I see, the void extraction theory doesn't really collide with the ending theory so its just me casually theorizing based on what I know. Though I really should watch the OAV - maybe it has important details that can further shed light on the ending. Thanks for letting me know!

PS: Is it the one with Scrooge and Carol?
PPS: What do you mean by "Went to Youtube"? You made a video?
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GuiltyChoke said:
Oh and also, I think you should watch the OAV because if I remember correctly, whetever it is the king of the OAV or Gai, the 2 of them seem older than 17 and in the OAV (carefull SPOILER: the king extract a void from a dog) so I think that the void extraction part is a bit contradictory.

Well, have a good day ;-)


Oh? Didn't know that. Yeah I didn't watch the OAV, and the stuff I wrote is all based on the research I did 3 years ago. I think the OAV wasn't available to me at the time, or I didn't know it existed. The answers in the comments are mostly all off the top of my mind. I surprisingly still remember most of it, but I never really went back to rewatch the episodes (unless for a specific detail) to answer the comments.

From what I see, the void extraction theory doesn't really collide with the ending theory so its just me casually theorizing based on what I know. Though I really should watch the OAV - maybe it has important details that can further shed light on the ending. Thanks for letting me know!

PS: Is it the one with Scrooge and Carol?
PPS: What do you mean by "Went to Youtube"? You made a video?


Hey again, no problem! And yes it is the one with Scrooge and Carol.

Oh it is just that I added some comments (with the link to this page) on the video with the sad soundtrack of Guilty Crown because before reading your interpretation, I was always feeling extremely sad whetever I listened to them. I just wanted to let other know that the ending of GC may not be that sad ;)

EDIT:Oh forgot to say that I did some researsh on the age of the Gai and Scrooge and I have to say that Gai is really 17 when he got the king power.
I didn't found the age of Scrooge through.
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Hey again, no problem! And yes it is the one with Scrooge and Carol.

Oh it is just that I added some comments (with the link to this page) on the video with the sad soundtrack of Guilty Crown because before reading your interpretation, I was always feeling extremely sad whetever I listened to them. I just wanted to let other know that the ending of GC may not be that sad ;)

EDIT:Oh forgot to say that I did some researsh on the age of the Gai and Scrooge and I have to say that Gai is really 17 when he got the king power.
I didn't found the age of Scrooge through.


Ah ok! Good to know! :)
Smart to post it on the sad soundtrack videos hahah!

Judging from the looks and ages of Shu, Gai and Scrooge - it wouldn't be unreasonable to say he's probably 17 as well. If not then he is the Prototype of the king genome (really reminds me of Alex Mercer lol), and his power was different, so maybe the limits were too.

Also - who extracted a void from a dog? Scrooge?
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GuiltyChoke said:
Hey again, no problem! And yes it is the one with Scrooge and Carol.

Oh it is just that I added some comments (with the link to this page) on the video with the sad soundtrack of Guilty Crown because before reading your interpretation, I was always feeling extremely sad whetever I listened to them. I just wanted to let other know that the ending of GC may not be that sad ;)

EDIT:Oh forgot to say that I did some researsh on the age of the Gai and Scrooge and I have to say that Gai is really 17 when he got the king power.
I didn't found the age of Scrooge through.


Ah ok! Good to know! :)
Smart to post it on the sad soundtrack videos hahah!

Judging from the looks and ages of Shu, Gai and Scrooge - it wouldn't be unreasonable to say he's probably 17 as well. If not then he is the Prototype of the king genome (really reminds me of Alex Mercer lol), and his power was different, so maybe the limits were too.

Also - who extracted a void from a dog? Scrooge?


Yeah, it woudn't be unreasonable to say he's 17 as well^^

And it also remind me of Alex Mercer in Prototype lol

Finally it is indeed Scrooge who extract a void from the dog, here is a screenshot :

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Just ths for this.
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your theory change my impression from "meh" to "kinda good" hahaha and i love that tiny detail that you find such as the red string, soul area or Shu personality and make the ending make sense.

at first, i tought he just accepted the fate and finally had peace with it. but no, he is happy because the woman he loved still with him and make it so much a better ending.

its a shame with such great animation(and ost!) filled with a big meh story telling, won't complain though if there any afterstory... but yeah probably not gonna happen lol.

(after reading your theory, maybe the writer just had a little time to work on the actual story because they spent on finding little things like this...
but man... i was late to the party hahahaha)
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MrBalloon said:
your theory change my impression from "meh" to "kinda good" hahaha and i love that tiny detail that you find such as the red string, soul area or Shu personality and make the ending make sense.

at first, i tought he just accepted the fate and finally had peace with it. but no, he is happy because the woman he loved still with him and make it so much a better ending.

its a shame with such great animation(and ost!) filled with a big meh story telling, won't complain though if there any afterstory... but yeah probably not gonna happen lol.

(after reading your theory, maybe the writer just had a little time to work on the actual story because they spent on finding little things like this...
but man... i was late to the party hahahaha)


Glad to hear!

Could be. I don't know if Guilty Crown is a ground-up anime or an adaptation of its manga. Though judging by how many people are disappointed with the ending, it was probably ground-up, as I doubt an animation company would pick up a title that was already known to be disappointing at the end.

Edit: Google says I made sense.
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Whoh...
Guilty Crown. Vowed to watch it since 2012. Took me 3 years to actually do it. I regret nothing.

Except perhaps the ending. At first glance, it seems just sad. Saved the word - lost your girl, some friends, eyesight, and an arm. Don't forget them super powers. Sucks to be you, kiddo.

"BUT WAIT!" I asked myself. Does this overly realistic, down to earth, unrewarding, crappy ending really fit the anime? Granted, it has a bleak atmosphere, but all the supernatural elements and overall creativity allows space for an ending with a similar flow. You know, a rewarding ending. Something that doesn't have to make too much sense in order to get the good ending.

So, after looking at finer details of the anime and doing research I could somewhat label "adequate", I decided to pile it all to get a less crappy ending that does not stab the gut. Indeed, after this, the ending can somewhat be labeled good. But that is all up to you to decide.

Thus, without any further gibberish, I invite you to a loooong section containing even MORE GIBBERISH!* (depending on how you see it). Buckle your seat belts, it's gonna be a bumpy ride...

Guilty Crown Ending- Personal Interpretation/Explanation


Alright. Let us first begin by defining who or what Inory was. Inory was an artificially made human body that was supposed to serve as a vessel to transfer Mana's consciousness into. You can also label that as soul. So basically, Inory was just a husk waiting for the soul to be put into it. Before that could happen however, she was rescued by Gai and exposed to "the outer world". Presumingly being completely made in the lab, Inory never had a childhood nor any social experience. Thus, she lacked emotion and personality, which continued making her a soulless husk (metaphorically).



So she ran with the Funeral Parlor, carrying out her tasks like a machine she was. However, after meeting Shu Ouma, she was exposed to more or less normal social experiences. She started developing a personality, and started displaying emotion. She was no longer an artificially made machine - she was now a unique (human) being. She fell in love with Shu because he was "heartbreakingly human", who has "shown her the bad and the good of this world." Basically, she loves him because he taught her how to be a human, and this in turn made her feel like one and come to terms with her artificial origin. Being human, aka having a SOUL, was Inory's most valued essence. It is what "made her whole". Note: Inory always had a soul, but relatively to others, she almost didn't. It just kept her alive, not special.



Now let that sink in for a moment and let's move on to the voids. Voids are the manifestations of people's personalities, souls, hearts, complexes, etc., basically whatever makes a person unique described in one object. A particular void we should be interested in here is that of Yahiro's - the elephant grade shears. These shears are able to cut the "strings of life" of a person directly. Let us remember the scene where Shu talks to Jun in what appears to be some sort of a "spiritual lobby". Surrounding Jun are red, faintly glowing strings of life essence arranged in shape of helix, or DNA. If you cut the strings, the body loses life and becomes a corpse (or crystallizes, doesn't matter). At this point, one has to ask; do those strings of life represent simple rights and metabolic functions to live, or do they neatly carry all meanings of life aka soul, personality, conscience. My answer to that would be the latter. Why?



Remember how Shu killed Segai with the shears. The shears do NO PHYSICAL DAMAGE. They appear to pass through the body and right into the SOUL, which we can also, at this point, call Life, and are used to cut the red strings that represent it. Thus, by cutting the strings of life, you actually destroy the soul of the person. A body is useless without one. Everyone has it, even Inory. So that much we know about the red, glowing, helix shaped strings of life.



Fast forward towards the end. After the battle with Gai, Shu kills him. Mana dies due to this as well, since Gai was using her void at the time, as explained HERE (Thank you @Esper). This in turn begins to slowly crystallize Inory's body since she was the host of Mana's soul at the time. (The reason it did not happen instantly is, as stated in episode 11, the blood in her body has resistance to the virus. That, and the fact that there were TWO souls in her body at once, and only one of them died - Mana.) Knowing that Inory's body will die soon, Shu chose to die with her and decided to sacrifice his own body to annihilate the virus once and for all by absorbing it all. (Please notice how I'm using weird expressions of body instead of just saying death). It would seem like the two are about to die together, and that would be the end of it, but Inory had a different plan in her mind...



Before such ending could happen, we see Shu and Inory together in, again, what seems to be a "spiritual lobby", which is somewhat similar to the one in Shu and Jun's meeting in terms of concept. Inory shows Shu a RED, faintly GLOWING STRING in the shape of a Cat's Eye (string figure), or what I would prefer to call an open eye. That, is in fact, her very own string of life. Her soul. And she is giving it to him.



Now lets review our knowledge of those red strings of life. You CUT them, you destroy a persons soul (life) and basically kill them. So, what happens if, instead of cutting them, you TAKE them? What DO you GAIN? An extra life to live, like in Mario? No. You are taking the SOUL of the person. Their CONSCIOUSNESS in a way.



At this point, it is tempting to think that she gave him his rights to live, as he was going to die. But at that point, both were alive, and what she was giving to him was not a life he can use to throw at the virus like a bone it can chew on instead of his own. The virus needed a BODY sacrifice (got the reference now?). The crystals were forming on the BODY of the person, not his soul, and thus are not related.

So what DID Inory do? She decided to give Shu her SOUL, and use her (already dying) body as a sacrifice the virus needed as a vessel to get trapped in. What hints this, aside from what I have stated earlier? The Opening Theme Song! "So everything that makes me whole, I'll now give to you. I'm yours". WHAT makes Inory "whole"? The thing that she values the MOST. It is her SOUL. What she has developed thanks to Shu. The strings represent both her life and her soul, thus by giving it to him, she basically transferred herself into his body. Shu's body now has two souls - Shu's and Inory's, together. "I'm yours." She literally is now.



BUT HOLD ON. Now that sounds just bizarre. Can two souls even live in one body? YES!! Best example you can get is Mana's soul that was in Inory's body! They were sharing the same body, and were able to communicate with each other and control the body (to an extent). BUT WAIT! How did the soul transfer between Inory and Shu even take place?



Going back to the white wedding, gentlemen! Episode 12. Inory's body is covered in some sort of a hexagon wedding cloth that appears to be transferring some sort of RED, GLOWING STRINGS into Inory's body. What are they? You guessed it! They are Mana's life strings! Her soul being transferred to Inory's body, which turned out later, to be a SUCCESS! Mana was GIVING her SOUL to Inory! Or technically, forcibly stuffing her own soul into Inory's body, making it have two souls. You get the idea.



So what conclusions we have so far? The red strings of life DO represent the soul (and consciousness) of a person. Giving it to someone else means transferring the soul to that someone's body. And that's exactly what Inory did to Shu in the last moment! Why? So they don't have to stop existing! Because, you know, if they would just leave it at that, they would both die, and stay like that...
Basically, Inory saved us from a really crappy, down to earth ending! Hooray! Sadly, not many people will applaud this. The fact is so subtle that I cannot blame anyone for thinking it was what they thought it was - a non-rewarding, realistic, dull ending.

"HOLD IT, hardhat. Where's your proof ya back-pokin' snake!". The have I do proof, officer. *hick*

Let's look at some solid images. Last episode. Shu is listening to Inory's music. A scene shows up where Shu is hugging Inory... in, AGAIN, a place that seems to be some sort of a "spiritual lobby". Indeed! Check it out, it even has the same blue-white clouds that were also present when Shu was talking to Jun in the spiritual lobby.



You might argue that that is just his imagination according to the song, or it is his memories, BUT here is why I find that quite unlikely. First, it cannot be his memories, as this is the first time he is hugging her in that brown jacket of his (lel), and in that spiritual lobby space thingy. Second, why can't it be imagination?! Simple! The blue-white clouds give it away! Shu seems to be present in the same place as when he was when talking to Jun. You think that he just imagined the whole conversation with Jun? Oh boy, that would not be any good. It would basically mean that Shu only thought in his head that Jun wanted to die, while Jun was actually begging for mercy. That's just silly. At this point, I would like to point out that YES, the "spiritual lobby" exists in the anime, and that's where TWO SOULS MEET EACH OTHER. To talk, and stuff... And that's exactly what we see in the ending scene as the SOUL OF SHU embraces the SOUL OF INORY, who is always with him now, as they share one body.

"Is this the best you got, little man?". Yes. Iii mean - NO!! One more, less solid but never the less stable proof that I have is Shu's mentality. What have we learned about Shu throughout the whole anime? He is VERY emotional. He has social problems. He is always in his head and thinks too deep about useless things. He gets hurt easily, and his personality can change on a whim!



Just remember when Hare died. He COMPLETELY changed himself - all his ideals and his personality. From a good hearted wimp to an iron-fist dictator in just a moment's flash! As you can see, he gets affected REALLY EASILY, and REALLY DEEPLY. Remember the Lost Christmas? He was so devastated that he forgot the whole event! Even the fact that he had a sister! And some crazy blonde hair dude that fate decided to kick right into what he tried to escape! Hah, talk about life and its lemons!



So what conclusion can we extract from this? Let's run a simulation for that!

Imagine, Shu, with all those mental problems that he has, has:
-Lost the love of his life - Inory,
-Lost his eyesight,
-Lost his right arm,
-Lost two of his best friends,
-Lost his king ability (debatable),
-Seen all the catastrophes of the event,
-And was forced to change his entire personality and nature just to use the power he never wanted and stand up for its responsibilities he never wanted to take, all in a relatively short amount of time.

Now, if he was traumatized in Lost Christmas, then THIS would make Lost Christmas look like Disneyland. The kid would SNAP! Indeed, certain arguments exist against my conclusion - that he has matured greatly from that time, and that a few years have passed over Inory's apparent "death" so he could have gotten over it. But DID HE get over her? No! He was listening to her music! In harmony! He was smiling! He was HAPPY after ALL THAT!! WHY?!



Because Inory didn't "die"! Well, her body may have been destroyed, but her SOUL lives within Shu's body. Two souls together, not letting go, just as the theme song says in the end. She still "lives", and THAT'S why Shu did not snap. I don't know about you, but judging Shu's personality, he would never allow himself to be in peace if Inory would be gone forever. That, OR he would have forgotten her existence due to trauma - which is clearly shown not to be true.



And such is, ladies and gentlemen, my interpretation/theory/explanation of the ending. Gimme a round of applauds! Followed by a round of flying tomatoes! And maybe even watermelons, just for the variety!

Now, the ending I have proposed may seem waaaaay too subtle. It might indeed be simpler to say that the writers simply became unimaginative towards the end and finished off the anime quickly, and the obvious ending is the true ending. But in my opinion, the writers are far from that. There is a fair number of subtle messages in this anime. For instance, the shape that Inory and Mana present to Shu in the beginning of the anime using strings is called Jacob's Ladder. It represents the staircase to heaven according to the book of Genesis. By asking Shu to take it, they imply that he should accept the (guilty) crown and be the king of the new world. Ascension to Godhood perhaps, but that's just my interpretation. In the end however, Inory, using the life strings, gives him a shape of an open eye (or Cat's Eye, from a string game called Cat's Cradle). When Shu takes it, IT'SA TRAP! HAHAH! Well, sort of. As he takes it, the eye shape "closes" (Fish in a Dish string figure). Aside from being a foreshadowing of the rest of his life, a closed eye also means he is relieved from his unwanted duty of being the king. Closed eye (which also means blind) also means innocence. The Innocence that Shu was striving for for so long. It was his redemption from the responsibilities he never wanted to take. It meant he no longer had to be the king. It meant that he should no longer be "guilty". This is just one of the examples of how the anime writers used such subtle elements to summarize and represent bigger pictures. Thus, I wouldn't be surprised if they used the same technique to make a clever, complex (but not really necessary) ending.



That is all to my theory, really. But before you go, or before you throw watermelons at me, I would like to mention Mass Effect 3. Lolwut? Look at the similarities! Both ME3 and Guilty Crown seem to have awful, down to Earth, dull endings. But that's what we see with an untrained eye and on-flow mind.
I would like to refer you to the "Mass Effect 3 - Indoctrination Theory".
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZOyeFvnhiI
Watch it! (of course, if you know ME3 and how it ended). The theory collects all the very small and specific details of the game's story and environment to reveal that the obvious may not be obvious at all! It is a really plausible theory that has some solid proof to it. It instantly makes the ending of Mass Effect 3 from god awful to pure genius! And I say the same MAY, JUST MAY exist for Guilty Crown. I have faith in the writers. But I'm not in such stance because of them. I'm here because I made research on my theory and it seems plausible. Granted, it may not be very solid. And I'm sure you may have some counter arguments (we'll get to that later), but so far, it makes sense to me.



You see, Guilty Crown is not a realistic anime enough to make such a realistic end. You know - where "people die, they die, get over it kiddo". It sounds acceptable because the anime comes close to such atmosphere but not quite. No, not when you consider the whole picture of the anime. It is futuristic, sci-fi. Its not realistic. It doesn't even come close to realism. Thus, for me, the ending seemed too down to Earth to be acceptable for such an anime. It seemed too simple. It was out of line. It did not align itself with the anime's general writing creativity - the flow, the atmosphere. Thus, I (I) believe that the interpretation I have proposed is actually acceptable to the anime's story and overall logic. It fits. There is reasonable proof to it. And the assumptions can apply to the logic of the anime. The other, more common ending interpretations fit as well, but seem rather out of place. Unsatisfying. Shu losing nearly all and is forced to live like that - dull and cruel for no reason. Both dying - better than previous ending, yet still saddening. So yeah (lel).

That's all folks! If you've actually read it all, pat yourself on the back! Trust me, not every human being is given such a unique ability to READ EVERYTHING FULLY. Especially if it is any longer than a paragraph. REMEMBER! This is just my interpretation. It can be completely wrong, BUT I would GLADLY listen to YOUR counter arguments, as long as you REMEMBER to do it like a civilized being. The reputation of the community behind Guilty Crown is infamous. It is true that you either love or hate the anime. So please. It is obvious that I loved the anime, so don't try to point me at it's unrelated-to-the-topic plot holes, inconsistencies, clichés and inconveniences. My opinion won't change on whether I liked it or not. So if you are going to debunk my theory, use the proper facts and proof format rather than bluntly stating that I'm wrong then calling me weird names in the desperate hopes to show off the size of your e-peen. And I've seen that happening, so I'm warning you.

Good day, folks!

a lot of people has the same theory as you even i noticed it. So maybe it's not a theory at all. I believe that's the message the authors are trying to give us. Well i'm happy we share the same.
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a lot of people has the same theory as you even i noticed it. So maybe it's not a theory at all. I believe that's the message the authors are trying to give us. Well i'm happy we share the same.


Well, I didn't see many theories about the ending at the time I wrote the theory (mostly just short comments), but none were the exact. Most of such similar theories came after I made this theory, implying they did read this one, or perhaps that I just beat them to it. After all, I wouldn't bother writing all this had I been satisfied with others' theories. But it's nice if what you say is true. Perhaps the authors did try to make this ending but made it a bit too obscure either due to writing or just time/budget constrictions.

And people - please do not quote the entire theory. It's a huge wall of text that makes the comment section look ugly when fully quoted.
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Instead of reading this theory about if inori is alive, http://guiltycrown.wikia.com/wiki/Inori_Yuzuriha it says it right here "alive, physical body destroyed" :/ u wasted ur time
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Instead of reading this theory about if inori is alive, http://guiltycrown.wikia.com/wiki/Inori_Yuzuriha it says it right here "alive, physical body destroyed" :/ u wasted ur time


Except that this theory was made on July 21, 2015 and her status changed from Deceased to Alive only on July 22, 2017 on that fan wikipedia. Look at the editing history. It seems the wiki editors took my theory directly. Even the evidence I provided. Didn't credit me though.

Always double-check your facts, hombré. That status change is (most probably) because of me, not the other way around.
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I know it's kind da late for a season 2 but I still hoping for one. If this theory is actually true because I be live in it and it makes sense, then a season 2 would be possible would u love a season two to come still after all this time that passed?
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I know it's kind da late for a season 2 but I still hoping for one. If this theory is actually true because I be live in it and it makes sense, then a season 2 would be possible would u love a season two to come still after all this time that passed?


I doubt it will come. There is no manga or anything that extends it. There are additional story lines - but it has been quite long since the anime finished.

There isn't much material for season 2. Things wrap up nicely. But there is material in the additional stories, and Da'ath is still operating, so it is definitely possible to make something up. The real question is how many people demand season 2. No production company would take up something that doesn't demand it in high volumes.
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My final conclusion is that Shu obviously didn't lose the love of his life. (Her soul is inside him) and as well as i believe that anytime Shu plays Inory's song he can talk to her in the afterlife or blue and white cloud place (It shows in the end that he is talking to her after playing the song). I also believe he went blind because he CHOSE to. Because he already found the LOVE of his LIFE. So he wanted to go blind so he didn't accidentally fall in love with another GIRL. Sure my conclusion could be incorrect. But he lost his right arm over GAI. Besides he would have DIED anyways because of the last red orb he used (i forgot what it wad called...) and INORY'S soul is what saved him. Besides the fact, INORY would have died to the virus. But instead her SOUL was placed into SHU because she TRUSTED him. Besides, Shu lost his friends because of HIS mistakes. He has a large HEART. If you remember back when INORY rejected him because GAI TOLD HER to tell SHU she loved him so he would STAY with the TEAM. And SHU wasn't heartbroken then because he knew that INORY LOVED HIM. He knee that GAI did that but he knew she LOVED him and it didn't stop him. After the bandage girl died (I don't remember names sadly) he CHANGED but if INORY wasn't there for him he would have been DEAD. Because of the highschoolers going AGAINST him for GAI. When INORY tried to have SEX with SHU. SHU stopped her because he knew that it wasn't the right TIME to do so. Besides, they are in the middle of a WAR. Lol, but yes this is my final conclusion. He lost his arm but also never wanted the "GUILTY CROWN" so he was happy. Thanks for this explanation, if you will. Correct me in any way or anything i missed if you notice it. Thank you and have a great day. (All the words i put in capatils are the words i thought were important)
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My final conclusion is that Shu obviously didn't lose the love of his life. (Her soul is inside him) and as well as i believe that anytime Shu plays Inory's song he can talk to her in the afterlife or blue and white cloud place (It shows in the end that he is talking to her after playing the song). I also believe he went blind because he CHOSE to. Because he already found the LOVE of his LIFE. So he wanted to go blind so he didn't accidentally fall in love with another GIRL. Sure my conclusion could be incorrect. But he lost his right arm over GAI. Besides he would have DIED anyways because of the last red orb he used (i forgot what it wad called...) and INORY'S soul is what saved him. Besides the fact, INORY would have died to the virus. But instead her SOUL was placed into SHU because she TRUSTED him. Besides, Shu lost his friends because of HIS mistakes. He has a large HEART. If you remember back when INORY rejected him because GAI TOLD HER to tell SHU she loved him so he would STAY with the TEAM. And SHU wasn't heartbroken then because he knew that INORY LOVED HIM. He knee that GAI did that but he knew she LOVED him and it didn't stop him. After the bandage girl died (I don't remember names sadly) he CHANGED but if INORY wasn't there for him he would have been DEAD. Because of the highschoolers going AGAINST him for GAI. When INORY tried to have SEX with SHU. SHU stopped her because he knew that it wasn't the right TIME to do so. Besides, they are in the middle of a WAR. Lol, but yes this is my final conclusion. He lost his arm but also never wanted the "GUILTY CROWN" so he was happy. Thanks for this explanation, if you will. Correct me in any way or anything i missed if you notice it. Thank you and have a great day. (All the words i put in capatils are the words i thought were important)


Sorry but I didn't understand the point you're making here. The capitalized words didn't really help, and the grammar was shaky. Not to be rude, but I didn't understand what you're trying to say. Could you perhaps rephrase that?
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People say it is a bad anime because the ending was not seen correctly. Everyone thought "Oh he just lost the love of his life, well this anime is shit" but i was trying to point out why the ending was how it was. Inory loved Shu and gave her soul so everytime Shu played her song. They could talk. And i think he went blind so he wouldn't accidently love another girl. And his friends risked their life for him. I was pointing out what you said and why people are wrong about how the anime's ending was "bad" even though he never lost Inory nor did he lose his sight on purpose. And his arm, well that wasn't a choice lol.
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People say it is a bad anime because the ending was not seen correctly. Everyone thought "Oh he just lost the love of his life, well this anime is shit" but i was trying to point out why the ending was how it was. Inory loved Shu and gave her soul so everytime Shu played her song. They could talk. And i think he went blind so he wouldn't accidently love another girl. And his friends risked their life for him. I was pointing out what you said and why people are wrong about how the anime's ending was "bad" even though he never lost Inory nor did he lose his sight on purpose. And his arm, well that wasn't a choice lol.


Ah, I see.

Well, it could be your way. Not like we have any concrete answers. Though usually claims are supplemented by empirical evidence. For instance - him going blind being voluntary for him not to accidentally fall in love with another girl may sound nice, but what proof do you have to such an idea? I mean you can say that this is a metaphorical message delivered from the artist to the viewer on the topic of love and faithfulness - but to say that it was the character's choice means that sometime in the anime that character revealed to us evidence that he will/would do it. Either through action or concrete mentality. And I haven't really seen it. Why would Shu make himself blind? Did he ever say something related to that? Did he imply he is afraid of loving someone else? I don't remember that, so the claim you made becomes less plausible.

But yeah. Since the ending is rather open to such interpretations, you can surely say that. In the absence of a concrete answer, the most plausible theory takes its place. But plausibility in this case is only relative to other theories, not the truth.
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But didn't Shu have hid soul still? So either way Inory's soul couldn't have taken his over and make him COMPLETELY blind..? Right? So maybe it was Shu's choice to go blind...
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But didn't Shu have hid soul still? So either way Inory's soul couldn't have taken his over and make him COMPLETELY blind..? Right? So maybe it was Shu's choice to go blind...


I'm having trouble understanding your English :/

"But didn't Shu have hid soul still?" - hid soul? His own or Inory's? Taken or hid souls?

"So either way Inory's soul couldn't have taken his over and make him COMPLETELY blind..? Right?" - Well, I never said nor thought about soul take over.

"So maybe it was Shu's choice to go blind..." - From where does this connect?

I mean the whole "blind" thing I didn't really dwell into. Others said something about it. I think it was something like "as he took her soul into himself, he also took her blindness as she lost her sight towards the end."

I'm not sure, I didn't really focus on it. But I highly doubt that going blind was Shu's voluntary choice. According to what I mentioned previously, it seems the blindness was more of a negative side-effect, rather than an option.
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I meant his... Typo... Another question i have had for the longest of time is. Wasn't Hana's soul (Shu's sister. I forgot her name...) forced into Inory's body? So how did Gai pull out Hana's void without her soul..? I know the void is their personality and something to do with the heart i think... But how did he? (I honestly lost data at the beginning of episode 21, bad luck i guess lol)
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I meant his... Typo... Another question i have had for the longest of time is. Wasn't Hana's soul (Shu's sister. I forgot her name...) forced into Inory's body? So how did Gai pull out Hana's void without her soul..? I know the void is their personality and something to do with the heart i think... But how did he? (I honestly lost data at the beginning of episode 21, bad luck i guess lol)


Mana? Yeah. Mana's soul was forced into Inory's body.

What do you mean how Gai pulled out Hana's void? Mana's void is a darker version of the singer's sword. In fact it could be the same singer's sword, the void of Inory- just tainted by Mana as she shared the body with Inory. It makes sense, as I'd imagine two souls making one void that merges the two's characteristics together. Hense - Singer Sword is from Inory, and its darker accents and characteristics from Mana. A mix or a merge. I don't see why Gai couldn't pull out the void from Inory's body. He did have the king genome. I guess voids merge if two souls share one body.
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Like i said, i lost data in the beginning of 21... I thought he got the void fron Hana's body... Sorry about that o.o, i haven't watched it. Haven't had the time... But i did hear from a friend whom decided to spoil the end for me 😅😅.
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It is a top 100 anime i think... Unless that was Your Lie In April i am thinking of... So maybe they could make a season 2. But it is very doubtful... I would like to see one. For sure. But what would a season 2 even have? Inory is gone so there wouldn't be much of a story to it. I don't think season 2 would be a good thing for Guilty Crown.
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This was an amazing interpretation. When I watched the end, I was devastated as I am with most sad endings. He lost so much and for what? Thank you for settling this for me after about 6 months ago I watched it.
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I hope this is true.
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Quite literally just signed up to say...

This is amazing. At first when I watched guilty crown's ending I was heartbroken (and near tears) for Shu but now reading your sensible article my heavy heart can be put to rest.

I loved the amount of detail you put into this article, probably took you some time to put everything together and I really appreciate it. All your points are not far-fetched and really mind-blowing.

Also loved the reference to mf3 too bad it wasn't published by square enix, wouldn't have back up your point even more.

But at the end of it I loved your interpretation and if you have any other interpretations I'm sure to check them out.
Keep up the good work. : )
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Quite literally just signed up to say...

This is amazing. At first when I watched guilty crown's ending I was heartbroken (and near tears) for Shu but now reading your sensible article my heavy heart can be put to rest.

I loved the amount of detail you put into this article, probably took you some time to put everything together and I really appreciate it. All your points are not far-fetched and really mind-blowing.

Also loved the reference to mf3 too bad it wasn't published by square enix, wouldn't have back up your point even more.

But at the end of it I loved your interpretation and if you have any other interpretations I'm sure to check them out.
Keep up the good work. : )


Thank you! I'm planning to eventually make it into a video so it can be followed more easily, as well as do such interpretations for other anime. God knows when will that happen.
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This was a really well thought out interpretation that I enjoyed reading. It's been a couple years since I watched Guilty Crown and after reading this, I feel like rewatching it.
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What the heck!!! You just transformed one of the saddest animes i have ever seen into one with a supposedly good ending :D

Now this actually make me wonder if the creators really put so much thought into it as you have deduced or it was just a wild piece of luck and coincidence??

Anyway, it was a nice theory. Personally I have a really bad feeling for animes with sad endings. Lets just say you might have closed (umm... partially if not wholly) a hole in my heart. Kudos to your logic :D

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What the heck!!! You just transformed one of the saddest animes i have ever seen into one with a supposedly good ending :D

Now this actually make me wonder if the creators really put so much thought into it as you have deduced or it was just a wild piece of luck and coincidence??

Anyway, it was a nice theory. Personally I have a really bad feeling for animes with sad endings. Lets just say you might have closed (umm... partially if not wholly) a hole in my heart. Kudos to your logic :D


Glad to have helped! I know just the feeling (hence why I dug through the anime).

So you aren't wholly convinced because you question the capability of the creators? Well, can't do anything about that. Might as well take it, since there is no new content for it. As long as the theory itself holds up!
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Sorry to be too late, btw nice post, but, there's four holes I for sure have a curiosity to know, What happend to Arisa Kuhouin? What happend to Haruka Ouma? What the happend to the world after seen the "sacrifice" to save the world, and, even Inori still alive inside the Shu body he's gonna be alone forever? I mean physically, do you think someday Inori can leave Shu to some day he can be toghether with someone? Because in ep 22 you can feel something between Shu and Ayase, I think this is the main holes for me, but for you, what you think about that?
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Sorry to be too late, btw nice post, but, there's four holes I for sure have a curiosity to know, What happend to Arisa Kuhouin? What happend to Haruka Ouma? What the happend to the world after seen the "sacrifice" to save the world, and, even Inori still alive inside the Shu body he's gonna be alone forever? I mean physically, do you think someday Inori can leave Shu to some day he can be toghether with someone? Because in ep 22 you can feel something between Shu and Ayase, I think this is the main holes for me, but for you, what you think about that?


I don't see any plot holes here. More like hypothetical situations. I don't fully understand the questions here.

Most of your questions are about the aftermath of the anime - which we only catch a short glimpse of at the very end, and not fully - so we don't have most of the answers.

Arisa Kuhouin - She was wounded by the United Nation forces and got captured. So I presume she was incarcerated after the events, as she was loyal to Gai.

Haruka Ouma - Though she was a part of GHQ, she defected and helped stop it. So even though we didn't see her in the end, she should be alright. Otherwise Shu would have mentioned/mourned her later.

World - Should be clean of the Apocalypse Virus, and the voids. Everyone cured. So everything is probably back to normal. We can see Tokyo in a normal shape at the end, without any military present, so I assume things got fixed, and Japan didn't go to war with anyone later. Perhaps the UN even lifted its control over it, and the Japanese government was re-established.

We don't know anything about Inori leaving Shu, nor his possible future relationship with Ayase. There is nothing concrete that we can extract from this. I mean, your question about Inori is based on my theory, but we can't go deeper because it is unconfirmed. But if we were to assume my theory is correct, then I don't think Inory would leave Shu, nor that Shu would want that. I think that a new body would be constructed for Inory. After all - she was herself a new body constructed for Mana.

As for Ayase and Shu - they don't seem to be in a relationship, as no real signs are shown at the end, and Shu comes to the party by himself rather than with Ayase. This might support my theory a little, as I would expect Shu to be with Ayase if Inory was truly gone.
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I don't see any plot holes here. More like hypothetical situations. I don't fully understand the questions here.

Most of your questions are about the aftermath of the anime - which we only catch a short glimpse of at the very end, and not fully - so we don't have most of the answers.

Arisa Kuhouin - She was wounded by the United Nation forces and got captured. So I presume she was incarcerated after the events, as she was loyal to Gai.

Haruka Ouma - Though she was a part of GHQ, she defected and helped stop it. So even though we didn't see her in the end, she should be alright. Otherwise Shu would have mentioned/mourned her later.

World - Should be clean of the Apocalypse Virus, and the voids. Everyone cured. So everything is probably back to normal. We can see Tokyo in a normal shape at the end, without any military present, so I assume things got fixed, and Japan didn't go to war with anyone later. Perhaps the UN even lifted its control over it, and the Japanese government was re-established.

We don't know anything about Inori leaving Shu, nor his possible future relationship with Ayase. There is nothing concrete that we can extract from this. I mean, your question about Inori is based on my theory, but we can't go deeper because it is unconfirmed. But if we were to assume my theory is correct, then I don't think Inory would leave Shu, nor that Shu would want that. I think that a new body would be constructed for Inory. After all - she was herself a new body constructed for Mana.

As for Ayase and Shu - they don't seem to be in a relationship, as no real signs are shown at the end, and Shu comes to the party by himself rather than with Ayase. This might support my theory a little, as I would expect Shu to be with Ayase if Inory was truly gone.


Yeah, I exaggerated by saying this is a holes and yeah my question about Shu and Inori is based and whereas your theory the correct one.

I think you don't undestood the question about the wolrd, I can rebuild the question.

After the world(I mean the UN forces) seen the void power and seen the "sacrifice" made by Inori and Shu, what the UN forces did to Shu? I mean, clearly he's good years after, but my question is close for the final event.

I know is hard to answer because is just theories, but the lack of some info after the final event leave me with some questions and I share the questions here to see if is same thoughts as mine.

If have something you still don't understand over my questions let me know!
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I recently found guilty crown and would say it holds up very well and the ending left a type of emptyness inside me so I decided to see why shy was blind and I stumbled upon this post and it makes things so much clearer thanks for making this
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Yeah, I exaggerated by saying this is a holes and yeah my question about Shu and Inori is based and whereas your theory the correct one.

I think you don't undestood the question about the wolrd, I can rebuild the question.

After the world(I mean the UN forces) seen the void power and seen the "sacrifice" made by Inori and Shu, what the UN forces did to Shu? I mean, clearly he's good years after, but my question is close for the final event.

I know is hard to answer because is just theories, but the lack of some info after the final event leave me with some questions and I share the questions here to see if is same thoughts as mine.

If have something you still don't understand over my questions let me know!


"After the world(I mean the UN forces) seen the void power and seen the "sacrifice" made by Inori and Shu, what the UN forces did to Shu?"

Hmm. Well I think I did answer that.

"We can see Tokyo in a normal shape at the end, without any military present, so I assume things got fixed, and Japan didn't go to war with anyone later. Perhaps the UN even lifted its control over it, and the Japanese government was re-established."

I don't think the UN did anything to Shu. Maybe they gave him the bionic arm as a reward - but we don't know that.

All we know is that the UN military forces are nowhere in sight at the end. So I think they left Japan. And since Shu is seen casually dining with his friends - it means the UN didn't arrest him. So they probably did nothing to him.

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I recently found guilty crown and would say it holds up very well and the ending left a type of emptyness inside me so I decided to see why shy was blind and I stumbled upon this post and it makes things so much clearer thanks for making this


You're welcome!
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Not all heroes wear capes.. Well done @Xspy70!

Not sure if your theory is true, but after re-watching this anime with your ideas in mind, it surely holds up and seems very plausible. Hopefully its true, and if we get a second season, perhaps he will find a way to bring her back. Either way, for now, I'm satisfied with the ending.
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Made an account just to say thanks for this thread - which you even still respond to. Last month I re-watched Guilty crown for the first time after 7 or so years. It was a very crushing experience the first time but reading your interpretation was therapeutic on this occasion!

For me the ending really brings into question if the 'soul' or emotional/psychological comfort Inori can continue to provide can make up for a lack of a physical being. Seems like no matter what, the remainder of Shu's life will be fragile and difficult to navigate. If he was completely alone he could potentially have moved on from Inori with time and possibly have lead a more 'normal' life. But I must admit I'm glad he didn't.

Either way I will always remember this series for the devotion Shu and Inori showed each other. I've never watched anything quite like it and may never again - that alone is quite a poignant feeling for me.
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Made an account just to say thanks for this thread - which you even still respond to. Last month I re-watched Guilty crown for the first time after 7 or so years. It was a very crushing experience the first time but reading your interpretation was therapeutic on this occasion!

For me the ending really brings into question if the 'soul' or emotional/psychological comfort Inori can continue to provide can make up for a lack of a physical being. Seems like no matter what, the remainder of Shu's life will be fragile and difficult to navigate. If he was completely alone he could potentially have moved on from Inori with time and possibly have lead a more 'normal' life. But I must admit I'm glad he didn't.

Either way I will always remember this series for the devotion Shu and Inori showed each other. I've never watched anything quite like it and may never again - that alone is quite a poignant feeling for me.


Glad it helped!

There isn't much we know about such a scenario. We've seen Shu with Inory in that spiritual place/representation at the end. We also saw how Mana was visualized to Inory when she was in her body (before taking control over her). So it gives us an idea of what it's like to live with two souls in one body in the anime. We don't know if it can be satisfying in the long run because we weren't given a long run - it was introduced (or became more apparent) towards the end.

As for if it is fine for Shu, based on his character - he wasn't portrayed as a hormone filled teenager with lust for women. To me it seems like he was always looking for peace and stability at heart, and love was what gave it to him. In the end, he seemed calm and satisfied. Stable, so to speak.

Indeed, since real life has no such states of existence (2 souls), it is thought provoking. I think that while physical being is important, the spiritual effect of love is what truly gives it importance. Beauty fades over time, but if the love is true, you still love the person. They make you feel complete and not alone. Examples are elderly couples. So I'd say that Shu would be fine.

A little extra thing to mention though: since it is an anime and Inory was artificially created to house Mana's soul - if the anime continued further, we might have seen the process repeated, this time with Inory's soul being transferred to her new body.
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A little extra thing to mention though: since it is an anime and Inory was artificially created to house Mana's soul - if the anime continued further, we might have seen the process repeated, this time with Inory's soul being transferred to her new body.


I had never considered this - I am now!

I think the open for interpretation ending fits the series perfectly, but I also believe there's certainly enough there to explore in a second season. One can dream.
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tsubasalover - Mar 8, 2012

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tsubasalover - Mar 1, 2012

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udi13 - Feb 23, 2012

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Yumekichi11 - Feb 2, 2012

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Dec 10, 10:27 PM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
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