Boku no Hero Academia 2nd Season Episode 16 Discussion

BennyDelon said:

Direct hit in the stomach, episode 10.

But when he destroyed the ice (and his fingers) he was using 100%. He decided to sacrifice his fingers because it was the only way of fighting Todoroki's ice. Going 5% wouldn't be enough. All Might explained that in his inner monologue during the episode.

Basically Izuku can go either 5% or 100%. At first he could use only 100%, breaking his bones, but after the fight with Nomu in the first season he started to control it. Everytime he said "imagine the egg not exploding in the microwave" or something like that, he is using 5%. He doesn't hurt himself with 5%, but it is not that powerful.

BlossomBurst said:
I love Stain's moral code, how he admires Deku's heroism. He's a better villain than the purposely bad Shigaraki. Based on the kind of character he is, I know he's going to be killed eventually, so I'm excited for his final battle.

JooVieira5 said:
I just don´t understand why the smash of deku don´t hurt stain.. 5 % of one for all still very powerfull and should cause damage

TJHooker said:


It is 100% implied that she purposfully poured the water on his face. It was not an accident. She made a conscious effort to scar her sons flaming side, the side she despised. Despite her not meaning for him to hear she still disowned him.

TJHooker said:


It is 100% implied that she purposfully poured the water on his face. It was not an accident. She made a conscious effort to scar her sons flaming side, the side she despised. Despite her not meaning for him to hear she still disowned him.

callmetheBigD said:
I really liked this episode. There were a ton of really great moments here and for eagle-eyed folks they should be super pumped to pick them out.

I know manga readers already know the conclusions to this so Im asking anime watchers only for their input on this one (no spoilers!). I personally think that there is a lot more to Stain than people realize. He isn't just some baddie who is out to kill heroes for the fun of it, but rather because he is correcting what, in his eyes, is an injustice. Too many heroes take the name of Hero to fight for themselves and their wallets (the pay is probably good), rather than the real reason of being a hero. Stain never kills indiscriminately, as seen when he allows Midoriya to live. He not only recognizes talent but respects it. If you notice the scene where Midoriya says the essence of being a Hero is meddling when you don't need to, Stain has a considerable change in attitude which I can only determine is respect for someone who he deems as having the right mindset. He also compliments Midoriya for not talking a big game and for being able to back up his words with strong power and an excellent strategy. My prediction is that Stain was once an aspiring hero (maybe idolized All Might or someone else) but became disillusioned with the current crop of Heroes. That or something happened to him to cause him to want to correct this wrong. He respects the power and resolve of not only Midoriya but also of Todoroki. His comment about Ingenium having good friends I think will come back again. Stain has noble goals IMO despite being a Hero Killer, and I am super excited for next week when his backstory will hopefully be revealed!

I also really liked Todoroki's background story as well. You can tell he is a thinking man. He is pensive and he understands the role his actions play in the grand scheme of things. He fights day by day and grows, as accepting his father's internship is a stepping stone on the path to accepting himself and his power and becoming his own man. When Midoriya said to do whatever it takes to get to the top, I really saw that coming to play here. My favorite part is that Todoroki's backstory was never shoved down our throats and we were never forced to care about him. Rather, the writers introduced us to a troubled but ultimately well-meaning character that let us into his heart and made us care about him.

With each of these characters, there was an arc, and I think this will ultimately end up being Iida's. Hopefully it will be a good one!

callmetheBigD said:


Agreed. Though I think that Shigaraki is still a pretty good villain. Having not read the manga (and not looking for spoilers either), I was really pissed at Shigaraki for being a textbook overconfident trash-talking baddie who overplayed his hand, but in the first episode of the second season in the hero room meeting, they more than satisfy with their explanation.

The reason why he acted in that manner was that he was a petulant child with a god complex unused to losing, and that there may be someone in the shadows (like All Might) cultivating his malice. It not only explains everything about Shigaraki's character in season 1 but also sets him up for character development very similar to what Midoriya is going through. I think there is a ton of room for Shigaraki to grow as a baddie, and I think he will be a thorn in the side of Midoriya for many years to come. I am very excited to see this.

Jaecp said:

Your interpretation is wrong and I already explained how in detail

Watch from 15:45 and you'll see what she's saying, hear the tone in her voice, and just after the hissing, boiling tea kettle starts to erupt, she gets startled by Shoto and makes this face

TJHooker said:


I'm not comprehending how you think it was on accident. The kettle was on the opposite side of the room of Shoto. If it actually did explode Shoto's mother would have taken most of it, but as we saw she has no burn marks on her body. It's a stretch to believe the water hit his face, but his mother was untouched. It's not a coincidence that his fire side has the scar. It was the part of her son that she despised, it's the obvious location to scar him. And to top it all off did you not see her menacing glare right before the cut? It screams maliciousness. Also my argument is not that she isn't mentally ill, but the fact that she is mentally ill doesn't remove her from all responsibility.

Lightfury_Mutai said:
The City is overrun by Nemos and Stain.

This is easily one of the best episodes of the season!...
Stain pointing out to Lida-kun his faults of being a hero, Midoriya getting a clean hit and Todoroki joining in to the fight.

The whole episode brings out the essence of what they believe on what being a true hero is.
Plus Lida's back story was awesome to see!!!

Can't wait to see the next episode.

Plus Ultra!

Wintovisky said:


Thanks. I guess I went full retard xD Makes sense breaking the fingers only when he can't control it (even if the "controlable" is only 5%).

JooVieira5 said:


Has this been confirmed?

I thought the maximum he can use is 5% of the one for all, and now he does not broke his arms or legs because he uses full cowl.

Jaecp said:


Who said explode? I said "hiss, boiling tea kettle startles to erupt." Don't misrepresent me.

Clearly she was startled and threw the nearest object.

The part that got scared is just his right side, but this is narrative convenience and not an indication that his mother was careful in her scalding.

That glare isn't menacing, dude, its frightened.

And if that's your only argument then, ok, I agree with you. And then Shoto forgave her anyway. It's a shonen series, man.

TJHooker said:


I read the wiki and turns out she actually did through the tea pot at him. She didn't actually physically pour it on him. It is also elaborated that it is due to mental instability. My position is still similar, but my opinion on his mother has definitely softened.

hiddenhokage said:
Best episode so far. Goddamn.

5/5

GoldenDevilGamer said:
It said that his mother also apologized.

TJHooker said:
Todoroki states how he won't forgive his father for what he's done, but it appears like he's forgiven his mother. She literally poured boiling water on his face. He should be stating that he'll never forgive her either. Why would he be searching for her forgiveness? I hope he develops in a way that he realizes his mother is an garbage human being as well.

Temujin26S said:

Nice ad hominem I explained why but seems you can't get it through your skull so now throwing burning hot water on a child is acceptable because of a breakdown your clearly retarded and an idiot. It was partly hatred from her side due him supposedly becoming like Endeavor if not she would have never stated that he was becoming more like Endeavor.

callmetheBigD said:


Agreed. Though I think that Shigaraki is still a pretty good villain. Having not read the manga (and not looking for spoilers either), I was really pissed at Shigaraki for being a textbook overconfident trash-talking baddie who overplayed his hand, but in the first episode of the second season in the hero room meeting, they more than satisfy with their explanation.

The reason why he acted in that manner was that he was a petulant child with a god complex unused to losing, and that there may be someone in the shadows (like All Might) cultivating his malice. It not only explains everything about Shigaraki's character in season 1 but also sets him up for character development very similar to what Midoriya is going through. I think there is a ton of room for Shigaraki to grow as a baddie, and I think he will be a thorn in the side of Midoriya for many years to come. I am very excited to see this.