Sekai no Yami Zukan Episode 5 Discussion

valoon said:
best episode so far

el_morris said:
Damn! Now, here's a (silly, perhaps?) question: He's a robot, his wife is a human, how could he have a daughter?

Rei366 said:
Wow ! Nobody is complaining about the diction? For a first-person narration, the voice was horrible ! There were no high and low, no modulation accorded with what's being told.

2/5 I guess his daughter was adopted.

The title made me think about the ennemies in Gandahar

sakamoto-kun said:
Now I'm afraid of a robocalypse :/

AI-Anon said:


I'm more afraid of a Zombie Apocalypse. Robots can rust, wear out, they can be melted and many more things can terminate them. Zombies on the other hand survive everything apart from their brain being destroyed. They don't even drown.

Back to the anime. Everyone else must be seeing a different episode to the one i saw. To me, it was as bad as the others. The only thing quite enjoyable about this series so far has been the art work. But as i have already said, it has a hold over and i can't stop watching.

Dirty_Four_Eyes said:
The future is doomed it sees...

This was a great episode, really liking this anime, imo, it doesn't deserve the score it now has on MAL.

Dirty_Four_Eyes said:
The future is doomed it sees...

This was a great episode, really liking this anime, imo, it doesn't deserve the score it now has on MAL.

TheBigGuy said:

I agree. I wonder, what some people expected, when they started watching this anime.

AI-Anon said:


I suppose i expected this > Genres: Horror, Supernatural

I like the art work, it seems to be it's only saving grace. It's a shame really, i was looking forward to this anime.

TheBigGuy said:


I agree. I wonder, what some people expected, when they started watching this anime.

Kagami said:



This anime deserves the rating it has. It doesn't matter what people should of expected coming in.... Just because its supposed to be a horror and made like it is means people shouldn't rate it how they perceive it. The show has been more funny than scary and it looks like a pile of crap. Not to mention this episode only had a twist because the the episode had a huge plothole.

TheBigGuy said:


It seeks to evoke the retro atmosphere of pulp horror stories. And in succeeds in doing that. That people don't know it and don't like that style, doesn't warrant the low rating.

And I'm curious, what is this plothole supposed to be?

TheBigGuy said:
@Kagami

That's not a plothole. He could be like the human form Cylons of Battlestar Galactica, who thought, that they were humans at first. Or the human man was replaced with a robot later.

TheBigGuy said:


But that's exactly, what it is.

SouthRuizVera said:
The best episode so far... well, it doesn't say much either because the episodes seem to be too average... but in the end, I liked this one. Overall, I didn't expect that final plot twist but it made the story more entertaining that the previous caps so it was ok.

AI-Anon said:

In your opinion it well may be that. In my opinion it is not. I appreciate that it is a retro style of pulp horror, but it is not catagorised as retro or pulp. When you see horror stated in the genre information, you expect horror. I would assume the Harem fans would be mystified to start watching an anime stated as harem, only to discover it was a very tame retro story from Weird Tales turned into a tame retro pulp fiction anime. Yes, i know that's a rather bizarre analogy. But if you expect one thing and get it's poorer cousin, you are allowed to be disappointed. The stories are not interesting or even narrated in a way that makes them scary, suspenseful or intriguing. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion.You and others like the series, i'm fine with that. I and others dislike it, you and others should be fine with that. You asked a question on what people expected when they they watched this anime, i gave you my reasoning as to why i didn't enjoy it. Others may have entirely different reasons for either dropping the series or giving low scores. I for one never score anything unless i watched the entire series, what would be the point in that. Wow, i apologise for this turning into a novel but my friend has been distracting me with his blethering. How about we agree to disagree on the subject of Sekai no Yami Zukan. :)

Kagami said:


What? Just because a show "succeeds" in having a quality of the genre or medium its trying to be doesn't mean it isn't crap. The show absolutely looks like a pile of shit and none of the episodes have logical or any direction whatsoever and its made way worse than already known average horror stories from other countries. The show itself isn't even scary anyway. I am sitting here laughing every episode because it fits the bill of so bad its good, but that doesn't mean I won't give it a 1-2 at the end of its run because a bad show deserves a bad rating.
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Kagami said:
@Mike_McFly - Do you really think this show was created to be bad or are you just trolling? This show WAS NOT made to be bad intentionally. Plus, everything is subjective. You say me calling it not scary isn't serious criticism, but it absolutely is.

Mike_McFly said:

Quick question: Do you know what pulp is?

No, not everything is subjective.
Deciding whether or not something is good based on how scary it is certainly isn't "serious criticism". Personal opinion, at best.

Kagami said:
I will take back what I said, but that just supports my claim that this show is garbage and the people defending it have sunk so low to say "its supposed to bad" and "scary is subjective" as a way to deflect the deserved hate for this show.

Not to mention, personal opinion ties into the rating anybody gives a show so yes, its serious criticism. This show is more funny than scary and yes, anything can be subjective.

You guys have absolutely horrible arguments.

Mike_McFly said:


"I appreciate that it is a retro style of pulp horror, but it is not catagorised as retro or pulp."
But it IS categorized as retro and pulp. Read the damn synopsis.
Just because MAL doesn't have pulp or retro tags doesn't mean this show doesn't fall under those 2 categories.

"When you see horror stated in the genre information, you expect horror."
I'm sorry, but what about this series do you not consider horror? It has elements of horror. That's enough to classify it as horror.
Is it that you don't find it scary? Well, scary is very subjective, my friend. You can't say this isn't horror because it doesn't scare you. What doesn't frighten you, might frighten others and viceversa.

Also, your harem analogy makes absolutely no sense




Except it does. When a show succeeds at being bad intentionally, then you can't say it has bad direction or writing because they achieved what they were trying to achieve.
Sure, you can't deny it's objectively bad because that's what it was meant to be from the start. But the fact that it was made on purpose gives it a whole other layer that should be taken into account in its criticism. You can't just ignore it.

Also, scary is subjective. Such things should not be taken into account in serious criticism.

Mike_McFly said:

Oh, so you do agree that the stories are meant to be poor, but you still think it's not a valid point, huh?
I think that says a lot.

Huh? Who's talking about rating shows on MAL? Certainly not me.
I'm talking about criticism. Criticism is objective. Critics don't talk about how much they like whatever it is they're reviewing. They talk about things whose quality can be measured.

Again, no, not everything is subjective.
Some things can be seen in a purely objective way (such as writing or directing). Unfortunately for you, "scaryness" isn't one of them. It relies too much on personal experience to even be considered.

But hey, sure. Keep thinking "scary" is valid way to criticize horror.

Kayro said:


Well, he's a male Gearperson, so he just used his gearsticles ;)