| I really don't get it. Who is watching this show? And of those people, who is actually enjoying it? Was anyone looking forward to watching this show in English? All these people in the industry keep saying how expensive English dubs are to make so why of all shows did Funimation decide to take a chance on Endride? I would be very surprised if they break even with this show. |
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| Aren't they dubbing all of the shows that they have licensed? |
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G_Spark233 said: Nope. Kuma Miko and Concrete Revolutio Season 2 aren't being dubbed. Kuma Miko I sort of get because it's one of those incredibly Japanese shows where the market for a dub is practically non existent. Concrete Revolutio makes sense too since they didn't dub Season 1.Aren't they dubbing all of the shows that they have licensed? And I'm not opposed to their other dubbing choices. Hero Academia was a no brainer, Netoge is an ecchi comedy series which is kinda their forte, Shounen Maid is a fairly harmless shoujo gag comedy series so there's bound to be an audience for that and Sansha Sanyou has its own niche appeal. But why Endride? Why waste all that money dubbing 24 episodes of a show that basically no one cares about? |
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ItsXolo said: If you wanted a sign that this show was going to be a total piece of shit then all you had to do is look at the promo art. Granted I didn't expect '5.6', 'Preorder numbers in the hundreds' bad.Funi announced their broadcast dubs for the season before any of them had started airing. Nobody knew at the time how bad this show was going to be. I'm sure they regret it already, and probably won't make a profit from it, but it could be worse for them to go back on their word and drop it after saying they'd do it. It's one of those cases where they really should have just judged the book by its cover. Now they're stuck with this turkey for 24 episodes. In other words, they're sinking more money into this than Hero Academia. Wouldn't be surprised if they bailed on it next season. |
SeibaaHomuMay 20, 2016 5:18 AM
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| Because it can't get any worse. |
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| the next thing you know this gets a premier on Toonami |
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| This medium is all about risks, dubbing is just another part of it. Beisdes they sometimes share tv licenses with toonami which is something for them, so it may not be too bad in their eyes. |
| Why is Twintails getting a dub? Why did Show By Rock!! get a dub? Why does One Punch Man not have a dub? I don't think there's any real correlation between popularity and the chance of a dub. |
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| A show with a 5.6 rating (Miserable by this site's standard) is better than one of the most highly rated shows this season? Gotcha. That is an opinion you came up with on your own and is clearly not influenced by outside factors at all. R4vel said: Honestly, this is the first response that sounds like a legitimate answerThis medium is all about risks, dubbing is just another part of it. Beisdes they sometimes share tv licenses with toonami which is something for them, so it may not be too bad in their eyes. zombie_pegasus said: Yes. There is ABSOLUTELY a correlation between popularity and the chance of a dub. No one's surprised that Funimation dubbed Hero Academia. On the other hand Shonen Maid, Sansha Sanyou and Endride have raised more than a few eyebrows.Why is Twintails getting a dub? Why did Show By Rock!! get a dub? Why does One Punch Man not have a dub? I don't think there's any real correlation between popularity and the chance of a dub. Shows with immense popularity like One Punch Man (The dub has been confirmed by the way), Sword Art Online and Attack on Titan basically had a 100% chance of getting a dub. The odds of Girls und Panzer and Yuri Kuma getting a dub? Much smaller. Hell, the main reason why Love Live got a dub is because NISA's sub only set sold way above expectations. And that's just one of many cases where popularity had a direct impact on the decision of whether or not to dub. |
SeibaaHomuMay 28, 2016 8:08 PM
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15poundfish said: In a way I'd say you're trying too hard by randomly bringing up one of the most well liked shows of the season (Even though the topic has nothing to do with the show) and comparing it unfavourably to an awful show that basically no one likes. But the fact that 'bad CGI' is the main crux of your argument makes me think you're not trying hard enough.myanimelist tends to vote tear jerkers high regardless of quality. RE:Zero CG first episode for example has some of the worst CGI I have seen in anime were characters animations actually will loop in the same shot without transitions. |
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| What in Anime God's name are you going on about? Have you been paying attention to the awkward pacing of Endride? Also, while some of the CGI affects in Re: Zero might be a bit jarring at times they don't take away from the story and the characters' motivations. Endride's art, design and colors are so off and jarring that everything comes off looking like expired paint. As for the so called "out of place meta dialogue" and rapid tonal shifts; he's a gamer inside a world that bears similarities to fantasy type games why wouldn't the creator have him tell meta jokes. As for the tonal shifts did you think that's why people like it? Because it is something different? Since the author has a sadistic sense of humor and storytelling it draws people in because it puts our MC at risk and makes him vulnerable which allows us to connect to him more as opposed to characters who are just able to win all the time because they are the main characters. As for the tearjerkers comment yeah do you know why people rate tearjerkers high? Because those emotions are earned in Re: Zero and its quality is WAAAAAAYYYYYYY above that of Endride and remember that tearjerker in Endride where Demetrio lost his friend when he died? Remembering how jarring and out of place that was? Because his friend was just covered in dirt after getting kicked a lot and not a single drop of blood was visible XD the resaon no one cried about that is because no one cared because they didn't bother earning the emotions of the audience. When people die in Re: Zero or our MC fails it elicits much more emotion because we wanted to see him succeed and save the people he cares about. In fact given the episode count and fantasy themes Re: Zero and Endride might be the perfect examples of what to do right and what to do wrong with an anime. Also, I'm curious to know how many episodes you watched of Re: Zero because of this posting it isn't anywhere on your List; not dropped or on-hold or currently watching. I intend to see both shows to the end and give them a rating I feel encompasses the whole show and from the looks of it Endride will keep going down while Re:Zero goes up. But, if Endride made you feel something and you enjoy it then I'm glad you were able to find more in it then I could :) have a nice day and sorry for the essay I don't usually write much unless I have something to say XD |
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15poundfish said: SeibaaHomu said: The awkward pacing, badly utilized time mechanic, the dating sim slice of life episodes and out of place meta dialogue with rapid tonal shifts. End Ride is pretty cliched and predictable but it doesn't make you cringe on the waifu pandering.In a way I'd say you're trying too hard by randomly bringing up one of the most well liked shows of the season (Even though the topic has nothing to do with the show) and comparing it unfavourably to an awful show that basically no one likes. But the fact that 'bad CGI' is the main crux of your argument makes me think you're not trying hard enough. Stop trying so hard to justify your contrarianism. Just because you hate it due to it's popularity will not make it better than Endride. A cheaply and lazily made smartphone shit commercial. |
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I don't think it's better than Re Zero, but I don't think the MAL rating says everything. I think this series is underrated, but not too much. And this series might be popular in Japan (I don't think so, if I say the truth). |
| Speaking of shitty shows, what is the lowest rated show on this site that isn't N/A? I have been dying to know. |
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LeviathanTheEsp said: Sure you can't always trust MAL ratings but 5.6 is ridiculously low. That basically means near universal dislike. Lower than Divine Gate (Which Funi ALSO dubbed). And no, the show is not popular in Japan. Like, AT ALL. The Blu-rays are projected to sell in the low hundreds.I don't think it's better than Re Zero, but I don't think the MAL rating says everything. I think this series is underrated, but not too much. And this series might be popular in Japan (I don't think so, if I say the truth). |
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SeibaaHomu said: 5.6 is ridiculously low. And? SeibaaHomu said: That basically means near universal dislike. Really? Well, I didn't know your universe was MAL. BTW, most decisions about anime are based in its popularity in japan, so MAL doesn't have any influence. If it's also hated in japan, well, THAT would be weird. And when you rate a series you can see that 5 means average, 6 means good... if I dislike a series I rate it at most 4... so I don't know what do you mean by universal dislike... And even if its rating was 4 the mean value isn't enough to deduce universal dislike. To see that most people hate it you should know the variance and it isn't shown... |
LeviathanTheEspMay 29, 2016 9:52 PM
LeviathanTheEsp said: A 5.6 average score on most sites isn't ridiculously low. But it is on here.SeibaaHomu said: 5.6 is ridiculously low. And? SeibaaHomu said: That basically means near universal dislike. Really? Well, I didn't know your universe was MAL. BTW, most decisions about anime are based in its popularity in japan, so MAL doesn't have any influence. If it's also hated in japan, well, THAT would be weird. And when you rate a series you can see that 5 means average, 6 means good... if I dislike a series I rate it at most 4... so I don't know what do you mean by universal dislike... If a show's rating slips below 7 it's a good bet that most people saw the show probably didn't like it. When it slips below 6? Then you're REALLY in trouble. And no, these decisions are not based on popularity in Japan. They're usually made by the western distributor with western audiences in mind. Love Live was a huge success in Japan, but it wasn't until the sub only Blu-ray set sold well above NISA's expectations that they decided to dub it. Mahouka's super popular over in Japan but over here? Barely made a splash. Aniplex gave it a bland overpriced sub only release. SAO is about just as successful over in Japan, but the reason Aniplex pushed the show over Mahouka is the fact that it's way popular than Mahouka in the west |
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SeibaaHomu said: A 5.6 average score on most sites isn't ridiculously low. But it is on here. Again, and? SeibaaHomu said: Statistically I say: Not necessarily. It may mean that most people liked it a bit, but the few who hated it, hated it a lot. But without the variance, it's imposible to know it.If a show's rating slips below 7 it's a good bet that most people saw the show probably didn't like it. When it slips below 6? Then you're REALLY in trouble. |
| As I keep saying, such a low rating means 'near universal dislike'. Statistically I say: Not necessarily. As I keep pointing out, yes necessarily. It may mean that most people liked it a bit, but the few who hated it, hated it a lot. But without the variance, it's imposible to know it. I don't think you understand. 5.55 is really fucking low. Like, really REALLY low. I cannot stress that enough.Precure is a really niche series in the west so it's ratings are a bit imbalanced. Even some of the most well regarded entries in the franchise can't break an 8. But even Doki Doki, probably the most disliked entry in the franchise, managed a 6.88 which is still a shit score. Endride actually has about double the number of viewers that Doki Doki Precure has. On top of Funimation subtitling and dubbing the series, the show is also being simulcasted over here in Australia. It's getting a lot of exposure so if people really liked it we'd definitely hear about it. So why don't we hear much about it? Simple. The vast majority of the tiny audience who have seen it think it's a complete pile of shit. And that's why the show has an abysmal (And trust me, it is absolutely ABYSMAL) rating of 5.55 |
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| Maybe Re:Zero isn't the best series out there but it ain't shittier than Endride. This show is one of the most cliched and bland-iest shows out there hands down. |
15poundfish said: SwornShadow said: As for the so called "out of place meta dialogue" and rapid tonal shifts; he's a gamer inside a world that bears similarities to fantasy type games why wouldn't the creator have him tell meta jokes. As for the tonal shifts did you think that's why people like it? Because it is something different? Since the author has a sadistic sense of humor and storytelling it draws people in because it puts our MC at risk and makes him vulnerable which allows us to connect to him more as opposed to characters who are just able to win all the time because they are the main characters. He has no reason to save any of the characters in the new world and its ridiculous that he tries to save them after only knowing them for a day. Also each time he reverts to last save each character is different and not the same one he knew in the last save? How does one connect to something that is different depending on the save? Why is it so difficult to solve anything in the show when he is basically a save scumming protagonist that could easily solve any problem. Why does he spend so much time screwing around and just tell people his ability. SwornShadow said: As for the tearjerkers comment yeah do you know why people rate tearjerkers high? Because those emotions are earned in Re: Zero and its quality is WAAAAAAYYYYYYY above that of Endride and remember that tearjerker in Endride where Demetrio lost his friend when he died? Remembering how jarring and out of place that was? Because his friend was just covered in dirt after getting kicked a lot and not a single drop of blood was visible XD the resaon no one cried about that is because no one cared because they didn't bother earning the emotions of the audience. People can die from getting kicked a lot, you can actually die in real life with one punch to the head. SwornShadow said: When people die in Re: Zero or our MC fails it elicits much more emotion because we wanted to see him succeed and save the people he cares about. Why does he care about them after he only knows them for a day or a week? I can't really connect to a main character that is an asshole (he calls people in the show NPCs), a complete moron considering his save scum abilities, and no idea why the other characters even like him. Endride at least keeps the meta dialogue outside of the battles and doesn't bring them into the battles like Re:Zero. SwornShadow said: In fact given the episode count and fantasy themes Re: Zero and Endride might be the perfect examples of what to do right and what to do wrong with an anime. Also, I'm curious to know how many episodes you watched of Re: Zero because of this posting it isn't anywhere on your List; not dropped or on-hold or currently watching. I intend to see both shows to the end and give them a rating I feel encompasses the whole show and from the looks of it Endride will keep going down while Re:Zero goes up. I rather watch something serviceable than something awful like RE:Zero, The show is like Pokemon were the show is average but never goes into the awful territory like Re:Zero. You seem to be dodging any major points I am making and sticking to the same arguments. First, he saves them because it's the right thing to do. If you have a way to help people and know they will get slaughtered then people with a conscious will try to help them. Also, despite knowing her for a day she happened to save his life and prevented him from getting mugged and because he is in a strange new world he needs to become friends with people who inhabit this world if he ever hopes to survive or make it back to his world. They are the same characters whenever he starts a new save but his different actions influence them differently each time thus, when he does something different or says something different from the first time of course they won't react the exact same way as they did before. So they are the same people not new or different people and once he reaches a certain point they remember him up to that next checkpoint. First he doesn't know how many times he can come back also the process seems to activate automatically and he didn't decide on the save point it seems the world decides what the checkpoints are so he isn't a save scam. Now that next statement leads me to believe you watched the first episode and are giving an analysis of a show you know almost nothing about. And your list reflects this since Re: Zero is no where to be found on it and you didn't address this concern last time. First, he didn't know what was happening and didn't figure out how the whole return from the dead and start over from a checkpoint works and sometimes he didn't see his killer or know what happened so some lives have to be used for information gathering so he can put the pieces together and try to figure out want happened and how he can prevent it. Also, he tries to tell people later on because at first he was hesitant they would believe him and while he was trying to tell someone it shows that something bad will happened to him if he divulges his secret to anyone; perhaps permanently dying. I know people can die from getting kicked a lot but the light tapping and the damage that they showed had been done to him was so light and pathetic he looked like when an anime character falls and gets dirty there wasn't even a drop of blood coming from his mouth to signal internal bleeding which is why it was so laughable and again you missed the point of my original statement. Because the meta jokes in Re: Zero are actually funny and the ones in Endride aren't. Also, did you ever think he makes jokes and pokes fun like that because he is trying to cope with the severe levels of stress of being thrown into a new world and dying in overwhelming pain over and over again. Also, yeah the battles in Re:Zero are much better are have good pacing action and fluid animation while the battles in Endride are so stiff and everyone just stands around when they fight and wait for the attack to hit them. Again he isn't a save scum because he isn't making that save point happen or saving every five seconds he returns and has to work hard all over again from the checkpoint so I think you are a bit confused on the definition. From what I've seen and most people agree that Re:Zero is at least a serviceable show I think it is great but Endride is just plain awful. I have 5 friends who have already dropped it and I'm only watching it still because I want to see this hole it digs for itself while those same 5 friends myself included have been keeping up with Re: Zero because it is interesting and engaging and we want to know what happens each week. Because in my opinion Endride is almost a chore to get through sometimes while Re:Zero is fun :D And look if you like Endride that's perfectly fine you can have your opinion but before criticizing a show you should probably watch more then the first episode before you start making outlandish claims and not fully understand the dynamics of the show you are criticizing and how it works :) Have a nice day ^_^ |
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