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May 10, 2015 6:03 PM
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THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER.
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Heh, I think it was obvious why he came to try to save Niki while risking his own life. At least it seems like she apologized though to clear the air a bit.

Good to know they made it out of that mess or it could of turned into something more nasty. Overall, a fun series I guess. Wasn't too fond of the second half and I kinda wish there were more chapters. Meh ending.
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May 10, 2015 6:23 PM
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I wish the ending was longer and explained more... but whatever. It was still a pretty good story.
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May 10, 2015 6:28 PM
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Hard to say that this series wasn't cancelled or something like that judging from the ending.
I really liked the first half of the story, but the second half was quite abrupt.

At least it didn't end in negative tone.
May 10, 2015 7:06 PM
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Art was amazing, and story would have been better if longer. Ever Green falls into the unfortunate category that "it would be better if it were longer." More padding between the first half and second, and more dialogue/inner torture involving Hotaka and Niki would have made this pretty damn good. The twist was not out of nowhere, but could have been introduced better. The ending was just... eh. I felt kinda pissed that it ended on such a mundane note after being dramatic for a while.

Worth the read, but I will forever remember how much better it could have been, because the artist and author are extremely talented.
May 10, 2015 7:28 PM
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Good story but it fell short and felt incomplete with the ending. If I have time I would like to read it over again.
May 10, 2015 7:36 PM
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Decent art, interesting premise but terrible ending!
May 10, 2015 10:58 PM
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Man I didn't like the ending. I wish there was more story to it.
May 11, 2015 1:02 AM
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This was sad,the ending is. damn it could've been better if it was longer. -,- I wished theyd do another chapter just to see what would happen 5/10 years from now 'coz I really want Hotaka and Niki together :< and to think that the author was the same author of hit romance novel/anime series' Toradora and Golden Time,and for it to be axed? Ugh :'(
May 11, 2015 4:20 AM
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that ending was straight up GARBAGE
May 11, 2015 9:02 AM

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It is what it is. However the fact remains, they were brother and sister. No amount of denial will change that.

Takemiya has some new work that is out.
May 11, 2015 10:25 AM
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so what does the ending "I will make you immortal" mean? did it have to do when he was in love with her, that his love will make he immortal.
May 11, 2015 1:49 PM
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A sign from dad? That's funny.

Crap ending. 4/10
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May 11, 2015 8:05 PM

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The ending was sort of a let down, imp. I'm glad they reconciled, though.
May 12, 2015 12:07 AM

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I had a feeling the ending was going to be something like this to avoid any 'incest' issues, like OreImo. Still, this was a pretty disappointing end. It's still good to see Hotaka and Niki are on good terms again but it's still lacking closure. Hotaka and Niki are basically acting as strangers again and just hiding the fact that they're related. It does feel like this series got the ax, sadly. I still had a great time reading this series for the past few years.
Overall: 7/10
May 12, 2015 7:36 AM

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At least it didn't end on a negative point. It's nice to have a semi-positive ending these days.


But that's about the only positive. I mean the random spirit of their dad, being lead to safety, trying to take some kind of meaning out of how things turned out, etc. Really abrupt and certainly reflects a cancelled manga.

At least it wasn't a tragedy ending I guess.
May 12, 2015 7:39 AM

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.....Ha...
I don't get this kind of ending...
Oh well, just as expected from an axed manga.
7/10
May 12, 2015 8:53 AM

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Well, I will readily admit that I was wrong about them being siblings... However, I totally don't get his mother saying she "looks like him", since they don't really look alike at all... maybe I'm missing something.

I think that it is clear at the end that Hotaka is going to stay by Niki's side regardless of their sibling relationship. Sure, he may step aside if she gets married, but somehow I expect that the two of them won't. I get the feeling that they will be together, even if they are not "together", you know what I mean?I wasn't thrilled with the ending, but I did like the tie in with the title. He had always compared Niki to the sun, and the "sun and rain" that brings life, but no blossoms is an interesting analogy to how their relationship will work. He will watch over her, protect her, love her, but there will be no blossoms or fruit (children), just a life that is nourished and healthy and... Evergreen.

Yeah... I like the analogy.

But my initial reaction at the end was "That's all?!?!"

... and I still wish she was his step-sister and they could just be together!
May 15, 2015 4:38 AM

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wtf was that with 'dad' showing them the way xd

i really enjoyed the first half of the manga, pity that it went downhill later on cause the art was very pretty and i liked the characters a lot

anyway, i'm glad that they're on good terms in the end, even if they pretend that they're not c:
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May 24, 2015 6:56 AM

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zensunni said:
Well, I will readily admit that I was wrong about them being siblings... However, I totally don't get his mother saying she "looks like him", since they don't really look alike at all... maybe I'm missing something.

I think that it is clear at the end that Hotaka is going to stay by Niki's side regardless of their sibling relationship. Sure, he may step aside if she gets married, but somehow I expect that the two of them won't. I get the feeling that they will be together, even if they are not "together", you know what I mean?I wasn't thrilled with the ending, but I did like the tie in with the title. He had always compared Niki to the sun, and the "sun and rain" that brings life, but no blossoms is an interesting analogy to how their relationship will work. He will watch over her, protect her, love her, but there will be no blossoms or fruit (children), just a life that is nourished and healthy and... Evergreen.

Yeah... I like the analogy.

But my initial reaction at the end was "That's all?!?!"

... and I still wish she was his step-sister and they could just be together!


I feel the same.

johnthefig said:
so what does the ending "I will make you immortal" mean? did it have to do when he was in love with her, that his love will make he immortal.


I feel the same.

Overall a great manga.I'll just think the ending was after the manga they start dating and get "married" as in living together forever.Yeah I'll say that was the ending.
May 25, 2015 10:20 AM

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That was an awful ending.
May 26, 2015 1:40 PM

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I couldn't think a lively and colorful manga like this went to this kind of awful shit. Well, it was very different from other manga I've read before.
4/10
Jun 8, 2015 7:31 PM
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I liked the manga, but I didn't really like the end that much. I give this series a 8/10.

But this has been bothering me. It was said that nothing would blossom, yet what about that watermelon that is blooming? Do it reflect the growth of their love?
Jun 29, 2015 8:45 AM

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disappointing
they didn't bite the forbidden fruit.
Niki even said that she threw up when she found out that they're a siblings. lol


5/10 at least it was enioyable, but awful conclusion
Jul 1, 2015 1:44 PM

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disappointing
they didn't bite the forbidden fruit.
Niki even said that she threw up when she found out that they're a siblings. lol


5/10 at least it was enioyable, but awful conclusion


yes i was hopeing for that kind of ending too it got the worst ending it deserved so mutch more well atleast i can save the money that i was gona buy it on something else now
Jul 12, 2015 5:39 PM

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So rushed. Incest route would've been fine.
Jul 27, 2015 8:57 PM

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Certainly for a long time I'll think this manga had great potential, but I think it was not altogether tapped, otherwise could be one of the best manga I've ever read

Or I wanted at least that the end would be more explained and shown how relations have developed a little more, well, I thought excellent the first half, but then only showed the disillusionment of the protagonist couple and a final rather vague, certainly I expected more of this manga, or at least a grand and sentimental end to finish it

I think the relationship that the characters will take the following is left to the reader's imagination, so that each one imagine will be as Niki and Hotaka from now on, I particularly would not mind them still keep in a hidden romantic relationship ..
Oct 7, 2015 11:55 PM

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That ending was just... atrocious.

Still, there's never really a right way to close these ties (that already exists, anyways).
Oct 30, 2015 1:02 PM
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Open ended endings are never a good thing. We as readers need to get stability or closer from the things we read. At it's core it's a lot of realilistic strugling that pays no dividends. Why create such likable characters and relationships if we get no resolution. Either kill it or don't .
Feb 5, 2016 11:19 AM

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Cant write a good romance story?

No worries ,throw in some incest in it for good measure to add that drama and tension you are desperately seeking and you've got yourself your story. Don't forget the half assed comedy thrown into the mix whenever a situation get's to serious (because we cant have that! no way)

I still cant believe this author wrote Toradora, between this and Golden Time its just a cesspool of absolute trash...
Feb 10, 2016 9:43 PM
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Incest=wincest. Nope not this time. Pisses me off too. I really wanted them to end up together even though they are brother and sister.
Feb 11, 2016 9:27 AM

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Incest=wincest. Nope not this time. Pisses me off too. I really wanted them to end up together even though they are brother and sister.

I have a bad prediction in the last page, when Hotaka wave his hand to Nikki from manga club room.
Hotaka grip his chest.......
I don't know if Hotaka is hurt in his feeling for not able to love Niki because she is his sister

Or maybe Hotaka is hearth is sick again and maybe will die in short time in the future
Feb 11, 2016 10:48 PM
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desertkona said:
Quadraxis said:
Incest=wincest. Nope not this time. Pisses me off too. I really wanted them to end up together even though they are brother and sister.

I have a bad prediction in the last page, when Hotaka wave his hand to Nikki from manga club room.
Hotaka grip his chest.......
I don't know if Hotaka is hurt in his feeling for not able to love Niki because she is his sister

Or maybe Hotaka is hearth is sick again and maybe will die in short time in the future

Well unfortunatly we'll never know.
Feb 29, 2016 9:56 AM

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Man. I've started to feel, this kind of ending might occure
around halfway.
But sh*t happened and we saw this kind of end.
Apr 1, 2016 2:42 PM

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It's nice that they patched their relationship up, but it sucks that they didn't get together. Although I can't really be sure of that. The last page kind of implies their relationship could just be hidden. Or it could imply they didn't want to tell everyone they're brother and sister. I'm verging on 7/10 and 8/10.
Apr 4, 2016 6:08 PM
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so i just read the whole series today and i have to say i really enjoyed it but i really hated the abrubtness of it and the aspect of their relationship i still ship hotaka and niki for sure but, i dont know i was not happy with the ending
Jul 1, 2016 12:07 AM
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Man this is the worst rushed ending to a series I've ever read. The better option would have been to have him slam his sister but no, he get's fucking shitcanned himself.
Apr 27, 2017 5:17 PM

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This entire series was a huge blow to me... First few chapters were great. Loved the whole premise behind it and loved the two main characters. Really thought this was going to be a promising rom manga, especially with the writer of Toradora behind it.

But then the shit hit the fan and all that was good got flushed down the drain. At first I really thought the both of them losing their dads would have made a good bond between the two and strengthen their relationship. Then the whole sister-brother thing happened. Honestly, the moment that happened I knew for a fact the relationship between the two was a goner.

The ending pretty much wrapped up the entire shit show of the second half of the story. I really had high hopes for this going in so seeing how the story turned out had to be one of the biggest let downs ever.

Wish I never picked this up in the first place...
Apr 30, 2017 1:50 AM

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So they are still in a relationship but mc said it will stay forever green(no kids?) but then something sprouted in the end on the last page so maybe they had kids? Well thats what I interpreted from the ending.
Oct 29, 2017 7:32 AM

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Didn't expect that trashy ending...

First half is decent tho, 3/10
Dec 24, 2017 11:01 AM
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Bad english coming!!

I could predicted the ending since MC went to see his sick grandma with her grandma saying about 2 keys and all. But i still read it anyway, just because i liked on-chan very much(very cute girl btw).

The ending was crap. It was so bad it doesnt deserve the stunning art. This could be a great manga if only they could execute the climaks and ending well. (I feel like they rushed the manga, idk.)
Feb 1, 2018 11:55 PM
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I am the type or guy who just want both of them dead at the last chapter so no onr can have them in the future you know the feeling is fucking broken when you fall in love with your own sister and cant do shit and can only let it go for other person
Mar 1, 2018 10:39 AM

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Like most people here i liked the first half, 2nd half made me question what happend...

First whyyyyy do they have to be sliblings. Also the ending of not knowing eachother was just 4/10

7/10 because i rlly loved the start of the series
Mar 13, 2018 6:31 AM

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Wow the MC got screwed hard
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Mar 14, 2018 2:12 AM

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to be honest, this manga went from 100 to 0 real quick. when i see they’re kissing in the festival without any development beforehand. i knew something will be weird, seeing they’re lovey dovey all the sudden gives me a sort of death flag.

their relationship is so weak, it’s only based on “iam having the same past as him, so i feel closer” and thats it. but i get it, it feels like they’re having a connection, they’re yearning for the same thing, and they though they can fill each other.

but i love how mad is Niki, i love how they depict it so emotionally bad, like mental breakdown bad. but then again, after some time, it just went back to normal so fast. they really rushed this manga to be honest.

i though the story will be better if Niki is the girl that will opened his heart towards redemption of his regret. but this is also good. but come on man, it can get better, oh well that’s that

now i’m really sad because this beautiful artstyle, who has a potential to be at least a good read turn out to be like well, a pretty decent.

nvm 7/10, can be better, but i still liked it, and on-chan is cute, i love how free spirited she was.

and i hoped it ended with brother-sister healthy relationship, please.
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I found this on a random occasion and absolutely loved the cover.

Until halfway through chapter 16, I was going to give this a 9/10.

After 16... Well I don't really know what to think about it. I knew the truth from the moment that grandma said that there were 2 keys... And I'm not a fan of incest either, but... I really wanted them to be together. All the chapters until 16 made me get so attached to them, I...

I don't know. It's just hard to think. Why couldn't they have just made it a normal romance... The way everything suddenly changed was so abrupt... And that firefly being the father? I didn't get that either, it was so random...

I wish it was longer. Much longer, so that I could truly understand their feelings after chapter 16. But it'll never come true, I guess.

I'll settle with a 9. The ending was appropriate, but the buildup to the ending was not good. The rest was absolutely beautiful.
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Nov 6, 2018 11:09 AM
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I like to think that they ended up together in the end, but they just kept it under wraps because they didn’t really explicitly say that MC and Niki did not end up together.
Mar 4, 2019 3:03 PM

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that was bad, i'm speechess, this story could be potential for good material and ended just like this was so bad that make me want to rate 1/10. damn it, it was intense development and twist and wonder how the story will end up but this kind of endind is destroy the whole series.

I expecting atleast they could end up to incest route to be honest.


Nov 17, 2019 12:24 PM

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It started off so well but halfway through just became garbage. I think the incest end would have been a lot better than this.
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Apr 21, 2020 7:50 PM

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A story of a mutual love from interest with misunderstandings that grow them closer, until an abrupt twist of accidental incest with guilt that gets somewhat resolved peacefully with the supernatural help of their father's spirit... terrible development.
Worse, with unexplained relations from On x Soga, Hotaka x Niki, ended with a horrible open-ending ... fucking disappointing. 4/10. What a waste.
Apr 11, 2021 9:36 AM
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This is the problem with a lot of manga and anime. They often don't get finished. This was not the intended finished article, in my opinion. Seen this so many times now, it is very disappointing.
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