| V6:http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1366908&show=0 Gundamwank and faggy robot love. Spam will not be tolerated. Please tag and label spoilers. Please stay relatively on topic Let's get into the mood |
CkanMay 6, 2015 8:11 AM
| Is this the correct one after all? reposting here |
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Ckan said: The Gundam stands. This is actually a great idea. Sasuga Ckan.  |
| I approve |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Can we talk about how the Zeta Gundam never ever experiences any teething problems that would normally be associated with a prototype, and yet the Russians have made well over a hundred flights of their Progress robotic cargo spaceship and Soyuz rocket, yet just this week it appears the third stage exploded, leaving the thing tumbling out of control with no way of communicating with it? |
fst said: Can we talk about how the Zeta Gundam never ever experiences any teething problems that would normally be associated with a prototype, and yet the Russians have made well over a hundred flights of their Progress robotic cargo spaceship and Soyuz rocket, yet just this week it appears the third stage exploded, leaving the thing tumbling out of control with no way of communicating with it? Implying the Russians stand a chance against the technical ingenuity of an angsty teenager. |
Kokko said: fst said: Can we talk about how the Zeta Gundam never ever experiences any teething problems that would normally be associated with a prototype, and yet the Russians have made well over a hundred flights of their Progress robotic cargo spaceship and Soyuz rocket, yet just this week it appears the third stage exploded, leaving the thing tumbling out of control with no way of communicating with it? Implying the Russians stand a chance against the technical ingenuity of an angsty teenager. Kamille didn't design the Zeta; at most he laid out the thing or did the high level concept. Something like that is too complicated for any one person to do; you'll never find somebody who has sufficient knowledge experience in every area - controls, structures, propulsion, etc. to completely design something that complicated on their own. |
fst said: Kokko said: Implying the Russians stand a chance against the technical ingenuity of an angsty teenager. Kamille didn't design the Zeta; at most he laid out the thing or did the high level concept. Something like that is too complicated for any one person to do; you'll never find somebody who has sufficient knowledge experience in every area - controls, structures, propulsion, etc. to completely design something that complicated on their own. I'm pretty sure they state somewhere that he personally designed it, in those words. Which implies he did it alone. I think. |
| According to the Gundam Wiki: The MSZ-006 Zeta Gundam (aka Zeta, Ζ Gundam, ζ Gundam) is the titular mobile suit of Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam. Though the unit itself had many pilots throughout Zeta Gundam and Mobile Suit Gundam ZZ, it was most famously piloted by its designer, Kamille Bidan. The MSZ-006 Zeta Gundam's design was originally used to build three prototypes; the "MSZ-006-X1", the "MSZ-006-X2", and the "MSZ-006-X3" as part of Project Zeta. While these machines can transform, there is too much metal fatigue on the frame. This problem was corrected by Kamille Bidan, a Newtype teenager, incorporating innovations of that time such as the "movable frame" concept extracted by the Anti Earth Union Group from the Titans' RX-178 Gundam Mk-II project (headed by Franklin Bidan), and the Gundarium gamma alloy used in the RMS-099 Rick Dias. The Ζeta's design was revolutionary in many ways (both in and out of the anime), and in the UC time-line looked very different from previous models of the Gundam type of Mobile Suit. The transformation ability and the suit's great speed is the Ζ's signature quality, as its transformation is fluid and integrated into its combat style often giving it grace unrivaled by most MS. In the story of Gundam Sentinel, when the MSA-0011 S Gundam approaches the Base of Pezun, a commander replied there shouldn't be Mobile Suits like Zeta Gundam everywhere that have the high acceleration of a Mobile Armor but of the size of a Mobile Suit. While ironically, two MSZ-006C1 Ζeta Plus C1, a.k.a mass production Zeta Gundam units, are approaching behind S Gundam as a demonstration of how technological advances quickly shifts the form of war.[1] Kamille Bidan became the designated pilot of the Ζeta Gundam in the year UC 0087. Replacing Gundam Mk-II as his personal Mobile Suit, Kamille obtained the Ζeta Gundam after returning to space from the Hong Kong incident involving Four Murasame. Screaming into battle, this sleek convertible Mobile Suit took all of the Titan's forces by surprise with its incredible performance and attack potential. Kamille led many successful missions against the Titans and the AEUG turned the tide of the war. Kamille in the Ζeta was responsible for battling and ultimately killing Titans leader Paptimus Scirocco, besting his powerful mobile suit, the PMX-003 The O. So Kamille solved a crucial problem regarding the Zeta prototypes, hence why it's often said he designed the Zeta Gundam. |
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| Well in any case it implies that he didn't design the entire thing without assistance. |
| Yeah, it was Anaheim and AUEG engineers who did the work on the early prototypes. |
| anyway the point is why doesn't it ever break down Even the russians, the people who designed the AK-47, can't make a spaceship that never breaks down |
| How do you know if it never broke down :P It could have broken down between eps :> |
fst said: anyway the point is why doesn't it ever break down Even the russians, the people who designed the AK-47, can't make a spaceship that never breaks down Unfortunately Kalashnikov is not made of Gundarium γ Alloy |
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Kokko said: How do you know if it never broke down :P It could have broken down between eps :> Bullshit there was never any "in-between eps" cupc said: fst said: anyway the point is why doesn't it ever break down Even the russians, the people who designed the AK-47, can't make a spaceship that never breaks down Unfortunately Kalashnikov is not made of Gundarium γ Alloy That's only the armor the entire thing isn't made of it. Look, if there wasn't an electrical fire at some point in it's career, it means they weren't trying hard enough. |
fst said: That's only the armor the entire thing isn't made of it. Look, if there wasn't an electrical fire at some point in it's career, it means they weren't trying hard enough. You are clearly underestimating the advantages of using Gundarium versus your traditional metal alloy While it’s called an "alloy," Gundanium contains many non-ferrous metals and non-analyzed matter, meaning it is not a true metal. It is created in high-temperature plasma that can only form in zero-gravity. The compound is adjusted in nano-units, a process so precise that it can only be done in gravitationally stable Lagrange Points. The annealing process, which strengthens the alloy, is performed by electromagnetic waves from the sun. It is even rumored that the nuclei of the atoms themselves are modified within the Gundanium alloy. There is no armor capable of defending against beam weapons. The Gundanium alloy used in the Gundams' armor and the Planet Defensors of the Mercurius and Virgos is highly heat-resistant and virtually immune to corrosion, but it's still not immune to beam attacks. It does, however, create an "anti-field" that repels beam attacks to some degree, reducing the damage delivered, but not stopping it outright. |
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fst said: Kokko said: How do you know if it never broke down :P It could have broken down between eps :> Bullshit there was never any "in-between eps" http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Universal_Century 0087.11.24 The Argama stops at Side 2's Colony 13 for resupply. (Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, Episode 39) 0087.12.07 The Titans use the Gryps 2 colony laser to destroy Side 2's Colony 18. (Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, Episode 40) 0087.12.14 The Titans attack Side 2's Colony 21 with poison gas, wiping out all its inhabitants. (Mobile Suit Zeta Gundam, Episode 41) A lot of the episodes are set 1-2 weeks apart. |
cupc said: fst said: That's only the armor the entire thing isn't made of it. Look, if there wasn't an electrical fire at some point in it's career, it means they weren't trying hard enough. You are clearly underestimating the advantages of using Gundarium versus your traditional metal alloy Are you telling me that it works like a plot device to prevent that shit from happening? |
| So this is a Gundam thought of the day , huh. I guess I'll share this since I kinda wanted to but no one was talking about Gundam. Some spoilers about Unicorn (though everyone has seen it) |
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fst said: cupc said: You are clearly underestimating the advantages of using Gundarium versus your traditional metal alloy Are you telling me that it works like a plot device to prevent that shit from happening? This is Gundam, there's definitely no Deus Ex Machinas or plot devices here. |
| Lately, while working on a HGUC AGX-04, I've come to appreciate its feminine curves and design more. I proceeded to peruse fanart of Tetra-chan while simultaneously caressing her plastic torso. Is this how I Gundamwank? |
| Sieg Zeon! |
QuattroVaginas said: Lately, while working on a HGUC AGX-04, I've come to appreciate its feminine curves and design more. I proceeded to peruse fanart of Tetra-chan while simultaneously caressing her plastic torso. Is this how I Gundamwank? No. Besides, even the Unicorn has higher heels than that. |
fst said: QuattroVaginas said: Lately, while working on a HGUC AGX-04, I've come to appreciate its feminine curves and design more. I proceeded to peruse fanart of Tetra-chan while simultaneously caressing her plastic torso. Is this how I Gundamwank? No. Besides, even the Unicorn has higher heels than that. High heels don't make you feminine, just fruity. See Rozen Zulu. Katoki has an obsession with legs. |
| Sieg Zeon! |
QuattroVaginas said: fst said: No. Besides, even the Unicorn has higher heels than that. High heels don't make you feminine, just fruity. See Rozen Zulu. Katoki has an obsession with legs. Are you implying that the rozen zulu isn't a sexy lady piloted by a slightly masculine woman? |
| Angelo's Geara was the manliest of mechs until Sinanju came along and tagged its parts all over it until it was Rozen. It's some sort of rape. I imagine the situation was the same with FF and Angelo. The result is a hermaphroditic robot that can't compare to the naturally voluptuous Tetra: |
| Sieg Zeon! |
QuattroVaginas said: Angelo's Geara was the manliest of mechs until Sinanju came along and tagged its parts all over it until it was Rozen. For fucks sake THE WHOLE DAMNED THING WAS PURPLE PURPLE! |
| You can't argue with biology. It's the construction that counts, and Angelo's was clearly a man's robo. |
Ckan said: You can't argue with biology. It's the construction that counts, and Angelo's was clearly a man's robo. what does biology have to do with mecha |
| I thought we were talking about women? |
Ckan said: I thought we were talking about women? ...do you consider mechas to be inherently feminine like ships? |
fst said: It depends on their construction.Ckan said: I thought we were talking about women? ...do you consider mechas to be inherently feminine like ships? |
Ckan said: fst said: It depends on their construction....do you consider mechas to be inherently feminine like ships? well thats just fucked up |
Ckan said: Since when. Ships are different because they're not anthropromorphic If you start looking for human sex organs on a mecha that's fucked up. |
| You take things to far! Dirty human organs have little place when it comes to my affections. I'm not a complete pervert, gee. |
Ckan said: You take things to far! Dirty human organs have little place when it comes to my affections. I'm not a complete pervert, gee. Yes we can all see that some parts are missing. |
The Hi-Nu Gundam is gorgeous. |
| Mecha discussion in general? Which one is more fun: Valvrave, Aquarion, Star Driver, Daimidaler, Nobunaga the Fool, or something else I'm missing? I'm looking for something recent (2010+), and as ridiculous as possible. Nothing serious. Older stuff is OK, but I've probably seen it. The only recent mecha I've seen are Cross Ange, Shidonia, Aldnoah, Akame, Rolling Girls, Gargantia, Dandy, Gundam, and Captain Earth. CA is probably the closest to what I'm looking for. |
QuattroVaginasMay 4, 2015 10:40 AM
| Sieg Zeon! |
| captain earth is shit, star driver is great fun, go with star driver |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Describe me Valvrave, I'm interested in it. |
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| Wait, this thread was actually a thing? |
"Hi!" |
QuattroVaginas said: Mecha discussion in general? Which one is more fun: Valvrave, Aquarion, Star Driver, Daimidaler, Nobunaga the Fool, or something else I'm missing? I'm looking for something recent (2010+), and as ridiculous as possible. Nothing serious. Older stuff is OK, but I've probably seen it. The only recent mecha I've see are Cross Ange, Shidonia, Aldnoah, Akame, Rolling Girls, Gargantia, and Captain Earth. CA is probably the closest to what I'm looking for. Valvrave was stupid/fun. If you're looking for things like Cross Ange, it's probably as close as you're gonna get. |
| Captain Earth is the antithesis of what I'm looking for. Who knew something with Libido Bursts could be so boring. |
| Sieg Zeon! |
robis798 said: you remmember that episode in spongebob with the giant worm where patrick was like "what if we take bikkini bottom, and just move it somewher else". Valvrave does that but taking itself seriouslyDescribe me Valvrave, I'm interested in it. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
QuattroVaginas said: Captain Earth is the antithesis of what I'm looking for. Who knew something with Libido Bursts could be so boring. I can recommend Star Driver yeah, I just recently watched it and it was a lot of fun. And it was so much better than Captain Earth, so you don't need to fear for that |
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| Alright, will probably start Star Driver next, then Valvrave. |
| Sieg Zeon! |
| Yeah, I found Star Driver and Valvrave the most fun of those. Driver is heavy on the cheese and spirit, Valvrave is just just top Sunrise edgesilly. Daimidaler was pretty amusing if you don't mind the hands in pants ecchi. The VA's and Masaki Endoh helped save it. Lukewarm parody with good laughs if you like potty-sex humour. The action was pretty good at times too. Aquarion was pretty dull at times, and largely forgettable, since it was episodic. It has its laughs, and the openings were golden. Haven't seen Evol. The format was mostly CGI supers with the formulaic gimmick/team learning per episode, so it ended up with the rushed climax sort of thing. Nobunaga was silly, but never really outrageous like Aquarion. It tried to have a story while mucking around a lot, and it crammed a lot of random things in, but overall wasn't really that engaging, imo. Kind of felt half-baked and directionless. If you haven't seen it, I'm a sucker for Majestic Prince. It's very by-the-book cheesy heroic team-spirit vs the space invaders stuff, but the cast was likeable, the episodes had a good pace and variety, and the CGI action was a real showcase. |
CkanMay 4, 2015 10:31 AM
robis798 said: Describe me Valvrave, I'm interested in it. Well... |
Ckan said: Yeah, I found Star Driver and Valvrave the most fun of those. Driver is heavy on the cheese and spirit, Valvrave is just just top Sunrise edgesilly. Daimidaler was pretty amusing if you don't mind the hands in pants ecchi. The VA's and Masaki Endoh helped save it. Lukewarm parody with good laughs if you like potty-sex humour. The action was pretty good at times too. Aquarion was pretty dull at times, and largely forgettable, since it was episodic. It has its laughs, and the openings were golden. Haven't seen Evol. The format was mostly CGI supers with the formulaic gimmick/team learning per episode, so it ended up with the rushed climax sort of thing. Nobunaga was silly, but never really outrageous like Aquarion. It tried to have a story while mucking around a lot, and it crammed a lot of random things in, but overall wasn't really that engaging, imo. Kind of felt half-baked and directionless. If you haven't seen it, I'm a sucker for Majestic Prince. It's very by-the-book cheesy heroic team-spirit vs the space invaders stuff, but the cast was likeable, the episodes had a good pace and variety, and the CGI action was a real showcase. Majestic Prince is on my PTW, but seems a magnitude more serious than the aforementioned. I do have a more serious mecha list I'll get to eventually. |
| Sieg Zeon! |
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