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Sep 15, 2013 10:11 PM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Interesting new reveals about Mamoru

Xebec has to remind us that ALL the Yamato girls are best girls(though we know who will win the Kodai)
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Oct 26, 2013 2:39 AM
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Most exquisite series. That's how you make great remakes.

9/10 overall


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Oct 26, 2013 8:12 PM
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Almost cried with Mamoru's recording
Oct 26, 2013 8:42 PM
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Always good to have some relaxing time after a rough, epic battle. Episode 25 preview is looking pretty desperate.




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Almost cried with Mamoru's recording

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I've always... always been watching you... This whole time... Because you were there... That's why I was able to try hard. So you could have some balance! So you wouldn't treat me like a kid! So you would see me as an actual girl! Even while you were gone... You were right here! You were right here in my heart!
Oct 27, 2013 2:48 AM
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This is one of the most fucking beautiful episodes I've ever seen... It executed everything brilliantly, set the right tone and mood. It was a masterpiece in my opinion.
Oct 27, 2013 5:15 AM
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Wait, Starsha is pregnant and Susumu is going to be an Uncle? Or it's my delusions based on "hand on the belly"?
Oct 27, 2013 5:59 AM
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Stap-dono said:
Wait, Starsha is pregnant and Susumu is going to be an Uncle? Or it's my delusions based on "hand on the belly"?


I know! What was that about?!

I found the whole beach thing rather out of place (still cannot say I mind the service) but the second half of the episode was really moving. It was hard to remain unmoved by Mamoru's words. Poor Nimi. No one except Sanada knows of the relationship they had and how Nimi knew Mamoru was heading into a trap.

I didn't understand the whole thing about memories and how it relates to Wave motion technology and the Cosmo Reverser (is that Mamoru's body they're transporting there?).
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Oct 28, 2013 8:06 AM
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They finally reach Iscandar, and she's alone? Kinda sad. That "hand on the belly" is rather suspicious.

Yurisha is hot with that outfit of hers. She and Yuki look like twins. I kinda wish Yurisha to be together with Kodai along with Yuki. Heh.
Oct 28, 2013 7:24 PM

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Man, that speech with Mamoru is just q_q
and it seems Starsha was impregnated by Mamoru or something huh? If it was i didn't know that Mamoru could still have the strength to..oh you know.

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Oct 31, 2013 7:41 AM

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Man, that speech with Mamoru is just q_q
and it seems Starsha was impregnated by Mamoru or something huh? If it was i didn't know that Mamoru could still have the strength to..oh you know.


When there is an opportunity to stick it in, you always find the necessary strength! ;)
Oct 31, 2013 10:59 AM

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Nice quiet episode, but I knew the next one would see the return of Desler. Good to see that life will continue on Iskandar.
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Stap-dono said:
Wait, Starsha is pregnant and Susumu is going to be an Uncle? Or it's my delusions based on "hand on the belly"?


That's not too farfetched of a thought.

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Nov 10, 2013 10:46 AM

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wot Starsha is pregnant ? mamoru is half dead n still did her ?
Dec 10, 2013 1:45 PM

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was that supost to be the clichee pseudo-beach episode?
Dec 24, 2013 9:39 PM

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Who the heck was Starsha talking to? That glow of light.
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Dec 27, 2013 10:00 PM

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In the original Mamorou actually survived, which seemed kinda farfetched (and ended up dying later anyway). I like how they changed it. And it looks like Starsha is pregnant, much like in the original.
And lol, beach episode.
Jan 7, 2014 9:48 PM

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Beautiful episode, great OST.
Who rated this a 1/5, how could you?
Apr 29, 2014 7:56 AM

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5/5

Episode melancholy tones, almost dramatic knowing that Iscandar is a kind of cemetery space.
Plot thoughtful and restful, excellent scenarios that follow everything in a divine way.
So beautiful and divinely made​​. * w *
Drawings and animations but not great, especially during the relaxation phase, when all were on the bridge of the Yamato to enjoy the quality of the drawings was fluctuating.
Some things in the story are in a sense the dark, I did not understood certain passages in the dialogues and how we have come to have his brother Mamoru there on Iscandar.
I also believe that Starsya is pregnant Mamoru.
The fratellli Kodai are real heartbreaker. LOL
Ost very nice, as was the ending.
The next episode should be a very, very interesting.

How can you give a rating of 1/5 or 2/5 to a show like this? You do not understand anything, you have to learn! U_U

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When there is an opportunity to stick it in, you always find the necessary strength! ;)


Ecchi... XDXDXD
Jul 8, 2014 12:00 PM
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I didn't understand the whole thing about memories and how it relates to Wave motion technology and the Cosmo Reverser (is that Mamoru's body they're transporting there?).


same here. And the whole why Starsha felt sad giving it away....

i did not think she had something going on with Mamoru...all this time it rather looked like she and Dessler had something going on.

and lol on Iscandar you probably have alternative methids to get impregnated.

I agree, mamorus story had me all teary. The most tragic hero...i also felt soery for Yuki's escort guy.. forgot his name..
Jul 9, 2014 5:22 PM

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And we thought Mamoru was dead in vain for doing pointless suicide but then they told us he landed himself an pretty alien girl who has such an awesome chair(where can I buy a chair like hers?) Desler would be pissed hearing this >__<

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I didn't understand the whole thing about memories and how it relates to Wave motion technology and the Cosmo Reverser (is that Mamoru's body they're transporting there?).


same here. And the whole why Starsha felt sad giving it away....

i did not think she had something going on with Mamoru...all this time it rather looked like she and Dessler had something going on.
I think Cosmo Reverser isn't just a simple machine that you can make any time you want. It is like Yurisa said before "why didn't we just simply you the Cosmo Reverser instead of Wave Motion Engine?" and that is because they can't. Cosmo Reverser requires a special element from our planet, Earth, to be completed and that element is something like "Emotions" or "Memories". So Mamoru was converted into Cosmo Reverser and the time Starsha was talking to Cosmo Reverser she was talking to Mamoru who is already became Cosmo Reverser.


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Sep 19, 2014 10:23 AM

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I think Cosmo Reverser isn't just a simple machine that you can make any time you want. It is like Yurisa said before "why didn't we just simply you the Cosmo Reverser instead of Wave Motion Engine?" and that is because they can't. Cosmo Reverser requires a special element from our planet, Earth, to be completed and that element is something like "Emotions" or "Memories". So Mamoru was converted into Cosmo Reverser and the time Starsha was talking to Cosmo Reverser she was talking to Mamoru who is already became Cosmo Reverser.


I guess you're right.
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Oct 6, 2014 4:58 AM

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Ahh! The compulsory swimsuit episode in every anime. Never thought I'd ever see it in Yamato but boy was I wrong.

I really didn't see the Mamoru surviving coming. Nice twist.

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Wait, Starsha is pregnant and Susumu is going to be an Uncle? Or it's my delusions based on "hand on the belly"?
That's exactly what I thought...Do they ever confirm it? 0.0 But I thought Starsha liked Desler? Anyway Mamoru is much better!!

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Yurisha is hot with that outfit of hers. She and Yuki look like twins. I kinda wish Yurisha to be together with Kodai along with Yuki. Heh.
I totally agree. The outfit seemed too "revealing"? Or maybe it was the colour of the clothes and me looking at the wrong places. And I agree with Yurisha x Kodai x Yuki. So greedy XD

Edit: After seeing the preview of Yuki on the floor and Kodai's reaction I have an extremely bad feeling...God I hope I'm just paranoid.
Oct 23, 2014 12:19 PM

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This series is an epic, no other way to describe it.
And damn, the main character's big brother, managed to be the first human to land on the new planet, be the only survivor there after travelling thousands of light-speed years AND in the short time he was there to impregnate the ruler/princess of the planet. Pretty sure he is the most alpha anime male I have ever seen.
Feb 4, 2015 2:11 AM
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Beach episode.. really?
Mar 20, 2015 1:18 PM

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starsha beautiful as always

also, nevermind all the budget used on the previous episode.
half of the budget was used here. the eye candy. o.o

those engineers just staying below the ship, staring at dem
"Nature's so nice.." "You've got that right."

damn it im screenshotting every view of starsha

mamoru kodai, rest in peace.
also wtf does niimi like mamoru kodai or something.

AND THERE WE HAVE IT. The beginning of the end.
also, starsha is pregnant. 99% sure. u playboy mamoru. lucky asshole
just crashed in an alien planet and fcks an alien already. gg

ED IS AMAZING AS ALWAYS.
dessler back again. >.>
heil plot armor desu
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Apr 20, 2015 10:14 PM

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beach episode.. okay..
and it looks like starsha is pregnant. i guess it will be the start of a new civilization for iscandar :>
May 5, 2015 5:48 PM

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I guess Mamoru had enough life in him to bang Starsha and knock her up. xD

His final message almost brought a tear to my eye. T^T

The preview that Desler guy is still alive geez. Then again it wouldn't be very entertaining to have the final two episodes with smooth sailing back to Earth. All I want from this series is Hoshina and Misaki to live. Please for me? T^T
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I guess a beach episode segment is better than countless men wanting to impregnate Yuki and start new life for Earthlings on Iscandar as a backup plan (what happened in the original)

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Aug 28, 2015 4:09 AM

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EGAD

Xebec never fails to amaze me.

They managed to throw in a swimsuit episode two episodes before the series ends.

such haiwei
much howfang
lush pingpang

suck dick xebec
8=====D
Nov 5, 2015 10:48 PM

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Of course there's a beach episode part...

Why do they keep bringing up Mamoru at every opportunity?

The guy chooses to die a pointless "hero's" death and now conveniently was the only one to survive, get picked up by some Gamilan ship which just happens to end up crashing on Iscandar where he was apparently half dead but somehow (for some random reason only known to the author) manages to bang Starsha and impregnate her. I don't even know anymore.

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Beautiful episode, great OST.
Who rated this a 1/5, how could you?

That's 2 now ;)
Dec 29, 2015 8:47 PM
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So basically, Starshya hadn't seen dick for so long that the moment she saw one (Mamoru's), she f*cked him to death? I would probably want to die that way too but it seems a bit retarded plot-wise.
Jan 4, 2016 3:04 PM

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Ok, didn't like the beach part but anyway was a very good episode.
Jan 9, 2016 8:01 PM

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Very interesting differences, this version does make a bit more sense and in general most of the original things do get implied even the pregnancy of Starsha! Still a bit sad that instead of like in the original where he's still alive and stays with Starsha is actually already death, but yea that would make more sense as I did find that part a bit strange in the original.

That said a really great episode with lots of the original feeling in it! Let's see what the two last episodes will offer us!
Jan 15, 2016 1:41 AM

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Stap-dono said:
Wait, Starsha is pregnant and Susumu is going to be an Uncle? Or it's my delusions based on "hand on the belly"?
yeah, i was wondering about this as well


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Spoilers about Starsha being pregnant
"I have been wielding a blade since before your were swimming around your father's scrotum." - Kurou
Oct 22, 2016 1:31 AM

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EGAD

Xebec never fails to amaze me.

They managed to throw in a swimsuit episode two episodes before the series ends.

such haiwei
much howfang
lush pingpang

suck dick xebec
8=====D


Avenger-senpai said:
Of course there's a beach episode part...

Why do they keep bringing up Mamoru at every opportunity?

The guy chooses to die a pointless "hero's" death and now conveniently was the only one to survive, get picked up by some Gamilan ship which just happens to end up crashing on Iscandar where he was apparently half dead but somehow (for some random reason only known to the author) manages to bang Starsha and impregnate her. I don't even know anymore.

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Beautiful episode, great OST.
Who rated this a 1/5, how could you?

That's 2 now ;)


Haha, I knew you two retards would be bitching in this thread two seconds into the scene. The entire crew was cooped up on the Yamato for God only knows how long. This is the first opportunity for them to let loose outside of the ship and actually get some fresh air.
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Haha, I knew you two retards would be bitching in this thread two seconds into the scene. The entire crew was cooped up on the Yamato for God only knows how long. This is the first opportunity for them to let loose outside of the ship and actually get some fresh air.

Classy response m8 ;)
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The city was nice, but severely lacking in vegetation. I'm not quite sure why the Garmillans needed a bio-sample of humanity when they have humans on Garmillas, and are almost completely identical to humans themselves. The whole "Garmillan supremacy" thing was pointless anyway, since the two races aren't radically different, unlike on Earth where we have humanoid races so radically different from one another that they either have bizarre offspring when interbreeding, or a high/definite chance of producing infertile offspring.

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was that supost to be the clichee pseudo-beach episode?

With all the drama, it's a nice bit of relief (it's also pretty obvious that someone working on this anime has a foot fetish).
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Mamorou actually died climaxing with Starsha.. what a clever guy, making sure his race is survived outside Earth. Well played
Jan 24, 2018 7:45 PM

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Thats actually insanely funny! Starsha wouldn't get with Desler until he made the whole universe at peace but she'll fuck Mamoru and have his child when she's probably only known him for a few days.
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Despite being very slow in the narrative rhythm and calm in tone, does not bore the strong episode of the fact that there is seriousness in the dialogues and in the way of acting of the personages, which make the anime series valid under this aspect not related to the belligerent part of history. Not a bad twist on Kodai's brother. Who knows what the reverse cosmos represented for Starsha, I'm curious. The preview makes the next episode intriguing, since it shows a new armed confrontation on the horizon, will the alien forces cut off in the previous fight? The representation of the planet Iskandar is fascinating.
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Mamoru: We can live with aliens in peace!

Also Mamoru: ;)
Nov 6, 2018 1:22 PM
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Thats actually insanely funny! Starsha wouldn't get with Desler until he made the whole universe at peace but she'll fuck Mamoru and have his child when she's probably only known him for a few days.


That's not funny, that's what you call NTR'ed.

Everything happened because Desler promised woman he loved(Starsha) to make her wish come true and unite whole universe and in return she let an earthling(Mamoru) fuck her. That was funny, tho.
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"I must tell them about you. She is here, as well.."

Who did she mean with "she"?
Did I miss something? What was it that she wanted to tell them?

And I still don't understand what happened in the hospital. Will we ever learn who Yuki is or how she is related to the Iscandarians? ("Iscandarians", well, only two left, though.)
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Mamoru living Jay's dream from Clerks 2.

"You know, sometimes I wish I did a little more with my life instead of hangin' out in front of places sellin' weed 'n s**t. Like, maybe be an animal doctor. Why not me? I like seals 'n s**t. Or maybe an astronaut. Yeah... I'd be the first mother,f***er to see a new galaxy, or find a new alien life form... and f**k it. And people'd be, like, "There he goes; homeboy f***ed the Martian once."
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I just now noticed there are actually 3 Iscanda girls.

Nice beach episode.

I laughed when they said they cant have the space air refresher. The situation is just so ridiculous. They literally had to go to the core of the enemies, the reason they need the air refresher in the first place. What did she expect? Just not shooting back? Lmao. And apparently she is even in contact with the blue skin xeno filth. Like WTF. She is literally responsible for like a million deaths (counting the 10k ships explosion).
She also sent her sisters to die. Literally. She sent them to earth and they could have never come back. If anything both of them would have come back on the yamato, which she forced to go up against the entire xeno scum empire.
The wave motion gun story kinda explains why the xeno filth never went against Iscandar.

I still dont get the eco system changes from the planet bombs in the beginning, I guess it was just a coincidence. because the blue skins breath the same air as humans.

Yurisha calling Yuki her other self after interacting 3 times, but completely ignoring the girl she possessed for couple months.
"This emotion is mine alone.
It is for Madoka alone." - Homura
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Well...
1) The beach part was like 1.5 mins long, so it's ok, and was an understandable move from the characters (I'd go diving too after spending like half a year on a spaceship in constant battles with aliens)
2) Why was Starsha talking to the Cosmo Reverser? Did it contain Mamoru's memories or somethin'? Damn that alien technology. Didn't get the meaning of "she was there as well" line though.
3) Why the hell did Iscandar destroy other planets? Why is everybody except Starsha dead?
4) What did Starsha transfer to the ship in several green boxes?
5) As for Mamoru's part... Wasn't Yukikaze shown to be blown up in episode 1 in the battle near Pluto? Then it somehow moved to Enceladus pretty much intact, and now we learn that Mamoru was alive for such a long time? Ehhhh, what a stretch.
6) Why is Yurisha constantly calling Yuki her other self? Ok I get that they look similar but what is that almost spiritual connection between them? Why does Yurisha always "feel" where Yuki is? Will it ever be explained?
7) Starsha saying farewell to Mamoru probably means that he's somehow part of this cosmo reverser thing. I still don't get what was in the boxes, how was the ship "rebuilt" and what does this thing even do (rejuvenile the planet probably?). I wonder if Starsha bears Mamoru's or Dessler's child.
8) I wonder whether we'll see Melda's father again

Overall, I should say that artistically and emotionally the episode was great. Excellent melancholic soundtrack, nice character interactions and all that. But plot-wise, it seems weak, the most disappointing detail being about Mamoru. Like, first he's blown up in space together with the ship, than his ship is found on another planet so that Susumu can get Mamoru's pistol, and now he survived and went all the way to freaking Iscandar, where he just died from something we don't even know? And Starsha couldn't heal him with all her alien techonology that can destroy planets and possibly rejuvenile planets? It didn't take away from his emotional speech but that's too much.
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Well...
1) The beach part was like 1.5 mins long, so it's ok, and was an understandable move from the characters (I'd go diving too after spending like half a year on a spaceship in constant battles with aliens)
2) Why was Starsha talking to the Cosmo Reverser? Did it contain Mamoru's memories or somethin'? Damn that alien technology. Didn't get the meaning of "she was there as well" line though.
3) Why the hell did Iscandar destroy other planets? Why is everybody except Starsha dead?
4) What did Starsha transfer to the ship in several green boxes?
5) As for Mamoru's part... Wasn't Yukikaze shown to be blown up in episode 1 in the battle near Pluto? Then it somehow moved to Enceladus pretty much intact, and now we learn that Mamoru was alive for such a long time? Ehhhh, what a stretch.
6) Why is Yurisha constantly calling Yuki her other self? Ok I get that they look similar but what is that almost spiritual connection between them? Why does Yurisha always "feel" where Yuki is? Will it ever be explained?
7) Starsha saying farewell to Mamoru probably means that he's somehow part of this cosmo reverser thing. I still don't get what was in the boxes, how was the ship "rebuilt" and what does this thing even do (rejuvenile the planet probably?). I wonder if Starsha bears Mamoru's or Dessler's child.
8) I wonder whether we'll see Melda's father again

Overall, I should say that artistically and emotionally the episode was great. Excellent melancholic soundtrack, nice character interactions and all that. But plot-wise, it seems weak, the most disappointing detail being about Mamoru. Like, first he's blown up in space together with the ship, than his ship is found on another planet so that Susumu can get Mamoru's pistol, and now he survived and went all the way to freaking Iscandar, where he just died from something we don't even know? And Starsha couldn't heal him with all her alien techonology that can destroy planets and possibly rejuvenile planets? It didn't take away from his emotional speech but that's too much.



Isn't obvious that she is carrying Mamoru's ? I mean she was saying " goodbye mamoru" while she is holding her belly so...

Also in the original both got married and had a child called Sasha kodai so...
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A much appreciated fanservice episode. Didn't realise how much I needed this lol. Iscandar is fucking gorgeous too, damn.

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