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Jul 9, 2013 1:25 PM
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Well, that was at least interesting.
It's not very good.
Jul 9, 2013 2:03 PM
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After only 2 episodes this series is entering the 'it's so bad it's good territory'. The ubiquitous cherry blossoms and the size of necks/horses and boobs are hilarious to say the least. I'm genuinely curious to see where they take this weird story to.
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Jul 9, 2013 2:19 PM
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If I'm totally honest, I don't see why people think so bad of this show. I'm having a ton fun with it!
Jul 9, 2013 2:44 PM
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What a weird way to solve a problem between the current wife and ex wife lol.
Jul 9, 2013 2:47 PM
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This show is hilarious. Were samurai really this pretentious? haha wow
Jul 9, 2013 2:50 PM
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babymilo91 said:
What a weird way to solve a problem between the current wife and ex wife lol.
I think the world would be a better place if this custom still existed.
You've come a long way, baby.
Jul 9, 2013 3:37 PM
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Yup still bad.. 1 more strike.
Jul 9, 2013 3:42 PM
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It was a decent episode. I appreciate the creator's guts, with which they show us such pretentious characters even today. A lot of people enjoyed characters of these kind when the Fist of North Star was released back then. But alas they look pretentious to today's eye. People's preference and tolerance change as times goes by, which is one of reasons why old anime are not appealing to today's viewers. No wonder Lupin 2012 and Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2012 didn't draw attention from viewers so much.
Jul 9, 2013 5:02 PM
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Really good episode, enjoyed it a lot, especially the second part.

Btw that was one big horse lolz.
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eminagnam said:
It was a decent episode. I appreciate the creator's guts, with which they show us such pretentious characters even today. A lot of people enjoyed characters of these kind when the Fist of North Star was released back then. But alas they look pretentious to today's eye. People's preference and tolerance change as times goes by, which is one of reasons why old anime are not appealing to today's viewers. No wonder Lupin 2012 and Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2012 didn't draw attention from viewers so much.


The classic shounen are frankly much better than most of the garbage that makes up modern shounen.This show is way better than shit like Naruto/Bleach/Fairy Tail or your standard romcom/harem bullshit. Not to mention that the protagonists are definitely better than the idiot heroes or lame grass-eaters you see these days.
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Jul 9, 2013 6:15 PM
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For me, this show is getting better, and I agree about "it's so bad it's good" that was mentioned by Marzan.

The Keiji impostor was there only to take advantage of the money, huh? And that giant black horse reminds me of Ken-Oh's "Kokuoh-Go", HAHAHA!! :D
Jul 9, 2013 6:57 PM

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I was really on the fence on the first episode but I legitimately enjoyed this episode. By the way, I never heard of that custom before. Is this for real? Because it's hilarious.
Jul 9, 2013 11:35 PM

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I'm on the "it's so bad it's good" train too! lol
This episode was a bit better than the last. I'll stick around and see what happens. I still find the character designs for the two mains to be ridiculous...I mean they're like 10 feet tall! But, then again, I only have to look so far as any moe and harem anime to find something equally crazy, so whatever lol.
Jul 10, 2013 2:57 AM

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If I'm totally honest, I don't see why people think so bad of this show. I'm having a ton fun with it!


I have to agree with this.
Jul 10, 2013 6:08 AM

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I have a feeling people are calling this bad due to the bloated artwork and character design, other than that, it's a genuinely decent anime thus far with some nice characterization going for it. Not even close to being bad.
Jul 10, 2013 6:15 AM

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Really funny. I like that custom.. and seriously I hate that stupid husband.
Jul 10, 2013 6:16 AM

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Fantastic. This has to be my favorite show of the season so far.

So much honor.
Jul 10, 2013 8:14 AM

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Totally love the GAR-heated glances that Keiji and Kanetsugu shares~ This show is a win for me xD
Jul 10, 2013 10:05 AM

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Gya-ha-ha-ha - rolls on the floor- ho-ho-ho!...

Maa, yoi! :D

It already surpassed Free! in a very meaningful way, he he, but whatever, it doesn't bother me that much. And for the record, I love Souten no Ken (even more than Hokuto no Ken), so the character designs don't bother me either.

Thoughts:

* Better than the first episode.
* GAR and pathos in a whole new quantity level :D
* The real eccentric here was Kanetsugu, who changed the tradition by allowing the fight instead of going with the bribe/ransom/gifts.
Thus, when he was certain that no real political agenda was involved (the Maeda clan has no finger in this and Maeda's name was misused in a fraud), it was up to him to decide the dispute.
Honestly, what he did has its moral - the father is punished to watch the stupidity of his son's doings, the son reaps what he sow, the women vent their anger, and the whole business doesn't affect nothing but the Uesugi's clan. The real pest are beheaded (those imposters and crooks).
* Once in the opposite sides on a battlefield, becoming friends in life. Real righteousness is born when applied equally - even in regards to the (former) enemy.
* YAY!

I am watching lot of stuff right now, so if the story keeps going in small arcs - 1-2 episodes, better wait.
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Jul 10, 2013 10:51 AM

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Heheheh funny, I don't feel sorry one bit for that guy who married two women that were way stronger than him.
Jul 10, 2013 11:40 AM

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I'll be sticking with this one till the end. This is my righteousness.
Jul 10, 2013 1:25 PM

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Anyway, fuck jesus. This is awesome, that bromance, THAT OST IN THE LAST SCENE, MY NIPPLES ARE GOING TO EXPLODE.

Also:


KaiokenxAlot said:
morshuwarrior said:
If I'm totally honest, I don't see why people think so bad of this show. I'm having a ton fun with it!


I have to agree with this.


And we are three that agree about this. I'm glad someone else enjoys this good quality anime.

Sourire said:
Yup still bad.. 1 more strike.


If you don't like it yet, I don't think you will like it onwards. IMHO.
Jul 10, 2013 1:39 PM

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loving the opening theme. i was cracking up at that one general who got shot in the head with the arrow.
Jul 10, 2013 2:01 PM

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i really don't know what to think oh well at least it's not boring
Jul 10, 2013 6:18 PM

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Kanetsugu: "Please feel free to laugh. This is my righteousness."
Maeda (stares intently): "Hahahahaha!"
Kanetsugu (stares intently in return): "Hahahahaha!"

XD Pure AWESOMENESS! Hahahahaha!

* The real eccentric here was Kanetsugu, who changed the tradition by allowing the fight instead of going with the bribe/ransom/gifts.
Thus, when he was certain that no real political agenda was involved (the Maeda clan has no finger in this and Maeda's name was misused in a fraud), it was up to him to decide the dispute.
Honestly, what he did has its moral - the father is punished to watch the stupidity of his son's doings, the son reaps what he sow, the women vent their anger, and the whole business doesn't affect nothing but the Uesugi's clan. The real pest are beheaded (those imposters and crooks).
* Once in the opposite sides on a battlefield, becoming friends in life. Real righteousness is born when applied equally - even in regards to the (former) enemy.


Excellent breakdown of what went down in this episode... very well said! I am somewhat confused about the use of the term "righteousness" in this series. Taken at its most basic definition (something like "the adherence to one's personal morals, values, sense of honor &/justice"), I get it, yet I can't help but feel like I'm missing some other meaning that is, perhaps, more applicable to the story. It could be my unfamiliarity with the culture, not to mention it's history, in general. I've definitely encountered this before while enjoying anime, manga, and Asian drama. Sometimes it's more of an obstacle than care for, leaving me feeling at quite a disadvantage ("Gintama" and "Oda Nobuna no Yabou" are two examples which immediately come to mind).

All that being said, I don't plan on dropping the series quite yet; however, it may -eventually- end up in the "On Hold" list for a time. I'll give it a heckuva go first. ~Cheers!~
Jul 10, 2013 8:32 PM

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This anime will send us into a broventure

Jul 10, 2013 8:41 PM

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Akanezora said:
Sourire said:
Yup still bad.. 1 more strike.


If you don't like it yet, I don't think you will like it onwards. IMHO.
Yes but I am a man of my words, and I respect my rule of the 3 strikes then drop :)
Jul 11, 2013 10:05 AM

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Totally agree with everyone saying this show is so bad it's good, and it being hilarious.

I will also be sticking with this show, due to me being an legitimate eccentric. This is my righteousness.
Jul 11, 2013 2:24 PM
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The Loving look given with the laugh at 21:27 (Ohh! Ho, ho ho!) had me in stitches. I can barely remember what the episode was about i was laughing so much during.

GAR-heated looks. Now i know what to call it.

My second favourite bromance of all time. As long as the stories keep showing their righteousness, ill keep watching.
Jul 11, 2013 2:47 PM
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Tsulaa said:
Kanetsugu: "Please feel free to laugh. This is my righteousness."
Maeda (stares intently): "Hahahahaha!"
Kanetsugu (stares intently in return): "Hahahahaha!"

XD Pure AWESOMENESS! Hahahahaha!

* The real eccentric here was Kanetsugu, who changed the tradition by allowing the fight instead of going with the bribe/ransom/gifts.
Thus, when he was certain that no real political agenda was involved (the Maeda clan has no finger in this and Maeda's name was misused in a fraud), it was up to him to decide the dispute.
Honestly, what he did has its moral - the father is punished to watch the stupidity of his son's doings, the son reaps what he sow, the women vent their anger, and the whole business doesn't affect nothing but the Uesugi's clan. The real pest are beheaded (those imposters and crooks).
* Once in the opposite sides on a battlefield, becoming friends in life. Real righteousness is born when applied equally - even in regards to the (former) enemy.


Excellent breakdown of what went down in this episode... very well said! I am somewhat confused about the use of the term "righteousness" in this series. Taken at its most basic definition (something like "the adherence to one's personal morals, values, sense of honor &/justice"), I get it, yet I can't help but feel like I'm missing some other meaning that is, perhaps, more applicable to the story. It could be my unfamiliarity with the culture, not to mention it's history, in general. I've definitely encountered this before while enjoying anime, manga, and Asian drama. Sometimes it's more of an obstacle than care for, leaving me feeling at quite a disadvantage ("Gintama" and "Oda Nobuna no Yabou" are two examples which immediately come to mind).

All that being said, I don't plan on dropping the series quite yet; however, it may -eventually- end up in the "On Hold" list for a time. I'll give it a heckuva go first. ~Cheers!~


The whole righteousness thing threw me off as well, then i realised i'd always thought about it with religious conotations (raised as a catholic, now an athiest). I kinda read it as "this is who i am"
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KaiokenxAlot said:
morshuwarrior said:
If I'm totally honest, I don't see why people think so bad of this show. I'm having a ton fun with it!


I have to agree with this.


I also agree, im enjoying it alot
Jul 13, 2013 12:18 AM
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UltimaOmnity said:
I have a feeling people are calling this bad due to the bloated artwork and character design, other than that, it's a genuinely decent anime thus far with some nice characterization going for it. Not even close to being bad.


The Anime also happens to break the concept of "show, don't tell" a lot as well, what with the characters telling the story rather then letting the story tell itself.
Jul 13, 2013 4:41 AM

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The Waifu are way stronger than the husband :p
Jul 13, 2013 5:55 AM

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Tsulaa said:
Kanetsugu: "Please feel free to laugh. This is my righteousness."
Maeda (stares intently): "Hahahahaha!"
Kanetsugu (stares intently in return): "Hahahahaha!"

XD Pure AWESOMENESS! Hahahahaha!



All that being said, I don't plan on dropping the series quite yet; however, it may -eventually- end up in the "On Hold" list for a time. I'll give it a heckuva go first. ~Cheers!~


I don't speak Japanese and I can't say anything remotely proper or informative on the word ("righteousness"). Given the period and the historical figures, some philosophy behind the way of the warrior and the wisdom of the person with power might have been adopted.

I went back and checked up on Souten no Ken, because of a certain deja vu, and, of course, I cannot struggle with kanji, but Kenshirou also speaks of a " - gi -" (similar [in sound] to this one here), and it is translated as both "loyalty" and "honor". Goes with "my" in front, so what you have found seems right - "a personal code of justice" (let say).
Giffu Doudou relates it directly to the historical figures of Maeda and Kanetsugu, known (perhaps) for developing exactly the personal side of the "gi", as opposed to others, who simply followed the rules of the cast system, or fictional characters in anime, who'd yell it without much explanation and in every occasion (Gintama excluded).
Jul 13, 2013 6:26 AM

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morshuwarrior said:
If I'm totally honest, I don't see why people think so bad of this show. I'm having a ton fun with it!


I'm with you. It's a great stupid fun. One of my favs in this season
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morshuwarrior said:
If I'm totally honest, I don't see why people think so bad of this show. I'm having a ton fun with it!


because over sized delts, pecs, traps and tight glutes aren't as popular (and don't sell as well) as big breasts on young girls

change it from two men to two girls and you'll have more people giving it higher ratings
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jkun said:
morshuwarrior said:
If I'm totally honest, I don't see why people think so bad of this show. I'm having a ton fun with it!


because over sized delts, pecs, traps and tight glutes aren't as popular (and don't sell as well) as big breasts on young girls

change it from two men to two girls and you'll have more people giving it higher ratings


That's the shitty community. But, fortunately there are still people that use a brain, instead of the D. (Even though they are a few)
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It's getting better! Lol I'm glad I kept watching, good episode.
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Akanezora said:
jkun said:
morshuwarrior said:
If I'm totally honest, I don't see why people think so bad of this show. I'm having a ton fun with it!


because over sized delts, pecs, traps and tight glutes aren't as popular (and don't sell as well) as big breasts on young girls

change it from two men to two girls and you'll have more people giving it higher ratings


That's the shitty community. But, fortunately there are still people that use a brain, instead of the D. (Even though they are a few)

I don't know if I can say I use my brain, but at least not my D!! but I enjoyed this series a lot!
How could I not enjoy 2 manly guys playing together... I swear, I had never intend to see fanservice in this anime... it's just... too... barabarabarabara everywhere!!! O_o I'm - almost - shocked!
Anime need more manly guys!!
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Bromance anime.
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I can't really blame the guy for wanting to replace this

for this
Aug 15, 2013 5:36 PM
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Yeah, I don't really get that some people find this show bad. The art looks great,and the battles are decent.
This show reminds me of Sengoku Basara. Both of the stories seems to not noticeable, but the battles are just the same like last time.
I like the op and the ed themes.
4/5
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Marzan said:
'it's so bad it's good territory'

I can never understand how can a bad thing be good. I can only understand if it's bad, but somehow enjoyable.

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This show is hilarious. Were samurai really this pretentious? haha wow

Wow it really came off as pretentious to you? I like them this way, the traditional way.

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It was a decent episode. I appreciate the creator's guts, with which they show us such pretentious characters even today. A lot of people enjoyed characters of these kind when the Fist of North Star was released back then. But alas they look pretentious to today's eye. People's preference and tolerance change as times goes by, which is one of reasons why old anime are not appealing to today's viewers. No wonder Lupin 2012 and Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2012 didn't draw attention from viewers so much.

Agree! Old anime > most of the new anime, and I like the old anime's characterization much more, they don't feel like they're following an archetype.

UltimaOmnity said:
I have a feeling people are calling this bad due to the bloated artwork and character design, other than that, it's a genuinely decent anime thus far with some nice characterization going for it. Not even close to being bad.

+1 It's not even fucking bad seriously. If people don't like the art style, they should not even be started with this show.

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eminagnam said:
It was a decent episode. I appreciate the creator's guts, with which they show us such pretentious characters even today. A lot of people enjoyed characters of these kind when the Fist of North Star was released back then. But alas they look pretentious to today's eye. People's preference and tolerance change as times goes by, which is one of reasons why old anime are not appealing to today's viewers. No wonder Lupin 2012 and Uchuu Senkan Yamato 2012 didn't draw attention from viewers so much.


The classic shounen are frankly much better than most of the garbage that makes up modern shounen.This show is way better than shit like Naruto/Bleach/Fairy Tail or your standard romcom/harem bullshit. Not to mention that the protagonists are definitely better than the idiot heroes or lame grass-eaters you see these days.

FUCKING TRUTH!

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morshuwarrior said:
If I'm totally honest, I don't see why people think so bad of this show. I'm having a ton fun with it!


I have to agree with this.

Me too.

Tsulaa said:
Kanetsugu: "Please feel free to laugh. This is my righteousness."
Maeda (stares intently): "Hahahahaha!"
Kanetsugu (stares intently in return): "Hahahahaha!"

XD Pure AWESOMENESS! Hahahahaha!

Man this is just so CLASSIC. Damn I missed those old days!!
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