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| Actually, I heard today that that part of ep 9 *is* different in the book. If you want to know... |
whitetear said: Actually, I heard today that that part of ep 9 *is* different in the book. If you want to know... |
pureromanceSep 4, 2011 9:04 PM
| Here's what I think: The cast thinks Inukashi is a man, since s/he speaks like one and kinda looks bishounen, but s/he's actually a woman, and Shion realizes that in this ep. |
| Don't forget. Always, somewhere, someone is fighting for you. As long as you remember her, you are not alone. |
| @pure: Sion is definitely less delicate in the novels. He could be sarcastic (even before leaving No. 6), he quickly catches up with Nezumi's humour and wit, and he stands up for himself more often. @wheres: I think it's a confirmed fact that Inukashi is female. It's not safe to be a small, skinny girl in a world like that so of course she would act as unwomanly as possible. Well that, and also she was raised by dogs. xD |
| ROFL! So Inukashi said that to Nezumi, then? So true... Sion might have taken it himself, but if he knew Nezumi was being touched like that, Sion would have killed the guy in less than two seconds. I feel awful for what happened to Inukashi. The others REALLY let her down there. (Mostly Rikiga's fault and then Nezumi's for showing up too late.) But it makes the most sense for her to be the one to do it. Not because she's female though, but because the others (except maybe Sion when he's not enraged on Nezumi's behalf?) would probably be better suited to fighting the No. 6 official. |
whitetear said: @pure: Sion is definitely less delicate in the novels. He could be sarcastic (even before leaving No. 6), he quickly catches up with Nezumi's humour and wit, and he stands up for himself more often. sarcastic! hmmm I felt that he's kinda... since the the first time he met Nezumi I liked how he could reply on ironic things that Nezumi says ^^ Shion is awareness and and fast learner more than how many people think he knows what kind of environment he was living in so he thankful to meeting with Nezumi as much as Nezumi is thankful to meeting with Shion I like how their meeting is fated as how I like how their love is equal jjoym said: hell, nezumi's practically all dere! so aside from trying to save time, showing what happens would have been in conflict with present characterization. it would be like the park scene had never happened. may you explain more what you meant? ^^" LOL there's this bit in the novels where inukashi screams "YOU should have played the prostitute role IT FITS YOU BETTER" and i was like, no, because shion would snap immediately and then how would you interview a corpse? D: wha!!! Inukashi said that!! it's like her to say such thing XDDD besides, I agree with what she said xDDD but now what you said is WIN xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD it made me laughing hard :'D so love couple won't be useful at such missions D: xD poor Inukashi ^^" |
pureromanceSep 8, 2011 1:21 AM
pureromance said: The equality of their love (same respect and admiration for each other, and same intensity though Nezumi tries to hide it) is EXACTLY what I love about it too. I've been talking about that a lot on another site, actually. xDShion is awareness and and fast learner more than how many people think he knows what kind of environment he was living in so he thankful to meeting with Nezumi as much as Nezumi is thankful to meeting with Shion I like how their meeting is fated as how I like how their love is equal jjoym said: By "the park scene" do you mean the part in the book with the lab coat guy and "Fennec" ? I was confused about that too but it didn't actually happen in the park; it happened *in view of* the park from an office inside city hall. I thought whatever it is those guys are up to would be a surprise for later but now I'm not sure if it's even going to come up in the anime at all...hell, nezumi's practically all dere! so aside from trying to save time, showing what happens would have been in conflict with present characterization. it would be like the park scene had never happened. btw Sion would snap for sure if he saw Nez getting molested like that but I don't think Nez would. He would save and comfort Sion as soon as he could but I'm not so sure he would lay down retribution right away. I think he'd save it all for the torture session, personally. @wheres: I forgot to say, I think you're exactly right about how the cast thinks Inukashi is male, but only Sion just realised she isn't. |
| wow that is a really sick idea those people being dumped like that. |
jjoym said: Oh OK. I keep hearing about that torture scene and something ugly about Nezumi being in it. It's already torture so I'm not sure how much worse it can get than that. o_O And I don't want to see something that makes me dislike Nezumi yet I can't wait to reach that part in the book so I can see what people are talking about! I don't want spoilers, though. I just wish I could get those novels in English/French and see for myself. *_*i mean that nezumi says and does ...some things... in the torture scene that may not work well with the anime's portrayal of their relationship so far, especially everything after the scene where they punch each other and air out their feelings in the abandoned park/playground. WHICH SITE i would like to know~ Well I do consider Nez seme and Sion uke, but only just barely. The reason for this is because I think Nez has always been the one to touch Sion and caress his hair and so on, and Sion just sat there and enjoyed it. The only exceptions I can think of right now are the kiss, and now the hug from today's episode. But now that the two boys have switched roles, I'm not sure what to make of that hug...and yesss that's a huge part of what i love about them, they're not defined as seme/uke unlike 95% of animanga m/m relationships, they're just two boys with intense messy feelings for each other and that just FEELS SO GOOD MAN. ;____; Man I really hope Sion's weird behaviour has to do with Elyurias and that it can be dealt with. I'm also a member on AnimeCrazy. If you look at the No. 6 anime discussion there, you will see me dominating it. lol... (my username is different there though) |
| My mind is full of fuck... I can't tell if Inukashi is a man or a woman. XD I thought he/she was a woman but now I'm not sure anymore. That's the problem with anime characters! And I think it's kind of cute how Nezumi is protecting Shion. -^^- |
whitetear said: btw Sion would snap for sure if he saw Nez getting molested like that but I don't think Nez would. He would save and comfort Sion as soon as he could but I'm not so sure he would lay down retribution right away. I think he'd save it all for the torture session, personally. @wheres: I forgot to say, I think you're exactly right about how the cast thinks Inukashi is male, but only Sion just realised she isn't. wha! that's pretty much like Nezumi! I liked how you described the situation =D since you said: "only Sion just realised she isn't", that gave this question >> what about Nezumi? does he know? since he fighted with her ealier and which mean he grabbed her body |
| to jjoym: hahaha, it's fine dear ^^ and thanks for the explanation ^^ to whitetear & jjoym: talking about Nezumi/Shion, Seme/Uke I did consider Nezumi seme and Sion uke at first episodes but later especially after episode 10, I think the two boys can switched roles there too (you know what I mean xDDD) looking at Doujinshi will gonna change your mind xD if Nezumi started something with a sign, Shion will continue it out of the curiosity -at leastest- xDDD Shion's innocency gonna make the Tsundere Nezumi suffering a lot xD Shion: "Nezumi, I want to know" Nezumi: "know what?" Shion: "about you, I want to know more about you" guess that including in bed two xDDD and yes, I like how these two undecidable in seme and uke rule ^^ |
pureromanceSep 13, 2011 6:04 PM
pureromance said: I'm not sure what Nezumi knows. He doesn't like to share these things, does he? ;)since you said: "only Sion just realised she isn't", that gave this question >> what about Nezumi? does he know? since he fighted with her ealier and which mean he grabbed her body As for the seme/uke switch thing, that's exactly what I was hinting at in my last post. Sion hugging Nezumi in the last ep felt more like a seme hugging an uke than vice versa. |
whitetear said: I'm not sure what Nezumi knows. He doesn't like to share these things, does he? ;) yes, he does xDDD |
| Ah, well that puts an interesting spin on the torture scene. I suppose I'll see the details when I can read to volume 4 or so... As for the seme/uke thing: I completely understand. Overuse of formulas like that can definitely lead to type-casting and caricatured characters... which suck. Much for the same reasons you don't like the seme/uke formula, I've tended to dislike the romance genre in general. Most of what I've seen has been so formulaic... so shallow. -_-; And on top of that I think it's because I've always wanted to see more relationships like this one. People who meet under unique circumstances and form a tangible bond. Partnerships between (more or less) equals. Admiration and respect from both sides. And a story with depth to it. Ethical conundrums for both the characters and viewers to work through. Funny thing is that coincidentally, I've been reading fanfic for this series lately, myself. I don't usually read fan writings, but now I've read plenty for No. 6 and I have been seeing over and over exactly what you've described. (Some better than others, of course.) Do you write any yourself, jjoym? |
jjoym said: i just don't like thinking in terms of seme and uke, period. i've read (still reading) far too much yaoi, and authors have a tendency to overuse this formula to the point of ignoring proper character-building and it PISSES ME OFF. but there are many Yaoi manga(s) which through reading wasn't able to tell who's the same and who's the Uke 'till finding that out in sex scene! and there're some including switch as well. then in fandom, writers/artists have a tendency to apply this formula to their chosen pairing to the point where the guys become unrecognizable caricatures and this PISSES ME OFF MORE. xD but again, there are so many great Doujinshi(s) which keep the characters just as the way they are. so yeah now i have an unpleasant knee-jerk reaction to the words seme and uke. I kinda understand you ^^ |
| http://shion-no-6.livejournal.com/tag/doujinshi <3 jjoym said: in return: http://i.imgur.com/Pu9B1.jpg do you have all the endcard for this series? because i do. and some other random toi8 art, including nezumi baking shion a birthday cake. and have you seen the one where eve dances with shion? /bribery bribery bribery :3 wha!!!!! what a lovely pic!!!!! *Q* I saw it before but it wasn't in this great quality! =D and yes, I do have the one where eve dances with shion ^^ the official pic which surprise me for real was this one O_O http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/2466/tumblrlraettajuy1qh78lg.jpg !!!!! talking about that, does this one is an official? http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/9800/738889.jpg the one of epispde 10 was soo cute! http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/2193/762944.jpg <3 oh, and I found something interesting to whom want to see yandere Shion through that time with Rikiga-san (in details) xD http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1310/tumblrlrbzt7xo2m1r2ymdq.jpg http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/1310/tumblrlrbzt7xo2m1r2ymdq.jpg http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/1310/tumblrlrbzt7xo2m1r2ymdq.jpg oh, Shion has a wild imagination! (that's why he got mad that much! hmmm that make sense now! *nods*) xD what made me laughing even most is that he drooled blood xDDD may you please tell me the titles of the endcards you've? ^^" I want to make sure that I have them all ^^ |
pureromanceSep 14, 2011 9:55 AM
| Thanks for that great image of the two boys back to back by the bookshelves. :) I have the end cards I liked and I've seen the Eve/Sion dance image on the Hiriajuu blog, if that's the one you mean (same source for the end cards, I think). It makes me lol... I've read much of what's on FF.net and the 1st and 3rd of the sites you listed (they all overlap a bit), avoiding most A/U, angst, and stuff that looks potentially spoilerish. Is there any particular type of story you're looking for? Let me know here or on my profile and I'm sure I can recommend some to you. *edit* @pureromance: All the endcards are linked from here: http://hiriajuu.livejournal.com/ lol @ Sion's imagination/yandere moment!!! |
whitetearSep 14, 2011 10:34 AM
whitetear said: *edit* @pureromance: All the endcards are linked from here: http://hiriajuu.livejournal.com/ oh! thank you so much =D *hugs* I wish to see the messing one here x3 >> http://shion-no-6.livejournal.com/tag/merchandise >> (awakening Shion + wet Nezumi) |
| Wow, thanks for all the great images! If you'd like specific story recommendations, here are some links to the ones I liked (ranging from fluffy to raunchy in no particular order but I'd say the fluffiest are the first two). Some will be better than others for characterisation, naturally... |
| lol... too too few stories. T_T Which were your favourites jjoym? I'm sure I've probably read them too. I'm getting tempted to try taking on their characterisation myself lately. Probably depends how I feel after today's final episode... I read that "Konezumi trio" one yesterday. Too cute. "Mother" and "Father" giggling together on the couch toward the end had me laughing as well. With the kids trying to guess what they were up to... I don't think I normally like A/U type stories but that one and "Paperback Lover" (http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7373327/1/Paperback_Lover) made me smile (though Nez is a bit of a creep in this one). Did you read all the stories by Triste? "Beneath The Surface" (http://tristefic.livejournal.com/98481.html) had me laughing as well. Well I do appreciate all the bribery and seeing as you're disappointed by the lack of English fandom, I translated a short French one for you... |
whitetearSep 15, 2011 8:05 AM
jjoym said: here have sum random toi8 art *too lazy to upload them all on imgur* http://sonohara.donmai.us/data/839d7fe320516f6cceef93b30fd2cf0d.jpg http://sonohara.donmai.us/data/75d51f9f2bf978cb6a94c24aaacf994c.jpg http://sonohara.donmai.us/data/723ae35bb5932fbf5dc74f002c2e8834.jpg http://sonohara.donmai.us/data/c9c4da65225d3dbeff71e50c1a1b9f8f.jpg http://sonohara.donmai.us/data/sample/sample-d1ddf356bf79f004edd7d4931efa4a17.jpg my favorite: http://sonohara.donmai.us/data/sample/sample-43adc40342ad4af0be482a26fe88539a.jpg my second favorite--> http://i.imgur.com/jzyMG.jpg if you get a 403 just copypasta the links, they'll show up. the dancing pic isn't from hiriajuu, tho. at least i think not: http://i.imgur.com/zOYRr.jpg I saw these pics before, their arts is so beautiful <333 what do you mean by "toi8" ? haha thanks for last one it mad me laughing I saw many pics of Shion birth-day but this one was so cute! Nezumi <3 Nezumi looks so cute with Shion's mother <3 http://www.zerochan.net/750789 PS: thanks for telling the method to show up the pictures ^^ lol which is why i haven't stopped reading yet. while there are a lot that make me want to pull my hair out, there are also good BL/homoromantic animanga that keep me happy. like no. 6! xDD hahaha I see ^^ (out of curious, give me some examples xD) hmmm. i don't think so, sorry. there are some really good stuff on pixiv tho. I see ^^" thanks for answering me ^^ um.. but may you tell me what do you mean by "pixiv"? another one about the end of ep 10, http://www.zerochan.net/762574 xD jjoym, whitetear, do anyone of you know something about this? http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/8153/88yy1.png wha!!!! the endcards of ep 11!!!!!!!!!!! <3333333333333 =D http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/8384/ep11endcard.jpg I haven't watched the episode yet, 'cause I'm waiting for the translation x3 |
pureromanceSep 15, 2011 12:48 PM
jjoym said: toi8 is the one who did the character design and the endcards. meaning ALL OF THESE, including the nezumi-makes-a-cake one, are ~official~. :3. oh, I doubted that since they've the same art as the endcards, thanks for telling me =D wha!! including the one with nezumi-makes-a-cake one!!! wooow! I didn't guess that =D http://www.pixiv.net/ <--- BEST PLACE TO TRAWL FOR ART. it's like the japanese deviantart, i guess? 95% of the fanart on tumblr were originally from pixiv. oh, thanks for the explanation! I didn't know about that "pixiv" since it blocked here =___= but I managed to see it somehow now yes, it's looks like deviantart =D PS: I edited my previous post, please check it out ^^ |
pureromanceSep 15, 2011 12:42 PM
| Ahhh... streams have been up for nearly 3 hours and I still haven't watched the last ep. Waiting for the HD download of ep 11 is driving me insane! :x jjoym (& pureromance), just wondering: Did you notice the story I translated from French for you in the spoiler tag above? It's short, but I thought it was really cute. What did you think? |
whitetear said: Ahhh... streams have been up for nearly 3 hours and I still haven't watched the last ep. Waiting for the HD download of ep 11 is driving me insane! :x jjoym (& pureromance), just wondering: Did you notice the story I translated from French for you in the spoiler tag above? It's short, but I thought it was really cute. What did you think? yes, it's so cute <3 (but with whom Shion was talking?) I'm in love with how Shion and Nezumi romance takes the silent way, like in the feeling through the kiss scene here, I iked it <3 "Yeah, I'd have to say he's made about 30 minutes of effort and 90 minutes of complaints!" xDDD and YAY I want to see Nezumi does his practises with Shion =D that would be sooooooooo cute x3 (looking forward seeing that in a DJ xD) thanks for the translation whitetear ^^ I wonder why the episode didn't come out in english translation so far! it's getting late x3 by the way, whitetear do you know Japanese? |
pureromanceSep 15, 2011 1:33 PM
jjoym said: @white: hahaha yeah. actually i had a long comment but the internet ate it and i gave up. xD Gosh, I hate when that happen x3 @pure: if i have to guess, the imageshack comic is the scene in the novels where they first meet inukashi and shion magnificently displays his nezumi-induced derpitude. nezumi: [elegant hand gesture] shion: oooh purty *_____* inukashi: LOL is this guy fer real?! hahaha xDDDD Shion is sooo cute <3 *hugs* and I like Inukashi's expressions in such moments xD thanks dear for the translation ^^ EPISODE 11 FINALLY CAME OUT IN ENG SUB =D *runs to watch* |
pureromance said: Sorry, I should have given context. Sion was helping Nezumi practise for a role in his next play. Nezumi hated the role because he couldn't get into character so, as you saw, Sion helped him out in his own way. ;)yes, it's so cute <3 (but with whom Shion was talking?) I'm in love with how Shion and Nezumi romance takes the silent way, like in the feeling through the kiss scene here, I iked it <3 episode 11 spoilers:"Yeah, I'd have to say he's made about 30 minutes of effort and 90 minutes of complaints!" xDDD Hehe yeah I had some fun with that line, but the meaning is exactly the same.and YAY I want to see Nezumi does his practises with Shion =D that would be sooooooooo cute x3 (looking forward seeing that in a DJ xD) No prob. If they're not too long (and as long as it doesn't piss off the authors), I'd consider doing more.thanks for the translation whitetear ^^ I wonder why the episode didn't come out in english translation so far! it's getting late x3 I caved and downloaded a lower res version to watch. Still waiting on the HD. I'm starting to think I won't even see it come up today. -_-;by the way, whitetear do you know Japanese? But I'm grateful Horrible Subs stuck with this one to the end. English is my first language. French is my second (conversational level & decent reading ability), and then yes, I do know some Japanese. :) jjoym said: Oooh, I hate when that happens.@white: hahaha yeah. actually i had a long comment but the internet ate it and i gave up. xD in summary-- Yeah, I was wondering where it was going as I read and then that just took me by as much surprise as it did Nezumi. Very clever! lol...LOL that was cute, i like it when shion surprises nezumi my favorite AU because STRIP CLUB: http://archiveofourown.org/works/240226 I was avoiding this for a while, but I'm definitely gonna have to read it now, I think. xD@pure: if i have to guess, the imageshack comic is the scene in the novels where they first meet inukashi and shion magnificently displays his nezumi-induced derpitude. Looks like a good guess. lol... I loved that scene so much. Sion is so adorable. <3nezumi: [elegant hand gesture] shion: oooh purty *_____* inukashi: LOL is this guy fer real?! Maybe we should start a Fanfic thread btw? |
| Uh... I've been drowning in RL too long I totally can't follow the discussion up there. But anyways this episode was... man... superb. Relives some childhood nightmares, those screaming and murder and blood... that scene where Shion closed his eyes under Nezumis cloak with distant voices in the background portrayed very realistic reaction to close terror. Somehow, somehow it touched me. Oh, and IMO it also means Inukashi is a GIRL. One more thing. The composer for this anime... I hate to say this: is a no no. Huff. I can't believe episode 11 is already out actually, gotta marathon it. |
fianeSep 17, 2011 10:59 PM
| Dogkeeper. Y U NO expose your gender. I'm still confused. =,= The manhunt and dumping persons like trash are kinda disturbing. Next ep is probably good. |
| Loved it! |
| It's quite easy to tell. The dogkeeper is a girl confirmed by this episode. In the novel, the author keeps using "he" because all the characters think dogkeeper is a guy. If the author uses "she" instead and the characters refer to dogkeeper as a male then it will be confusing for readers. It also would be a spoiler that dogkeeper is a girl pretending to be a guy. The west distinct isn't a pleasant place so a girl pretending to be a guy isn't illogical. |
| Yeah, the plot actually begins at episode nine, that's totally like C. At first I thought that Nezumi will act as the prostitute, but now I just wonder if Rikagu is really girl... if there's one more male character with female look... I'm just afraid of this thought. Anyway... I got the same way - Safu's body is overtaken by some Forest Deity... I hope she'll do some real damage to No. 6! |
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| That ending was terrifying, omg!;_____; AND NEZUMI'S SCREAM AT THE END OF THE PREVIEW! WAHHH!D'''X That massacre was awful and grotesquely brutal; I don't think I've been as disgusted with #6's government until now >:/ Ah! But Nezumi's voice!♥♥ I liked this song better than the first one~(◡‿◡✿) |
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| That ending disturbed me. This is getting good. |
| Whether Inukashi is biologically female or male, I like the idea of hir being agender. |
| 眠れないのは君のせい |
| Wow, this episode was really good. I adore Nezumi's voice. The city's secret is so sickening. I can't wait to find out what happens, only 2 episodes left >_<" |
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| Damn what an amazing episode but I don't understand what No.6 gains from mass murdering everyone like that... that middle part and ending were just terrible! And what happened to Safu, I just hope she's okey! |
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| Well that was... disturbing. A little boy love though which was nice. Will Safu finally stop being useless? I hope so but I also want her character gone since she'll just get in the way.. |
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