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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- I'm not sure what to think about this episode, it was interesting. Kinda annoying how they decided to put this arc right in the middle of the Hueco Mundo arc, but meh. I did like seeing Kon again after a while, and the Enryuu guy reminds me alot of Armstrong from FMA. I'm beginning to get pissed off at how often Ichigo uses his Bankai. It doesn't really seem all that powerful now that he uses it so much...mabye he'll get a more powerful attack eventually. I'm curious as to see how this arc is going to progress. |
Pokedude97May 8, 2008 8:40 AM
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| The animation was pretty iffy again in the first part of the episode but the story seems ok...so far. I wonder how it ties between the new Captain and the 3 shinigami coming to the real world. I would think that there is a connection between them. |
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| I have to say that this episode bored the hell out of me, hopefully the rest of the fillers will be more interesting. The only thing I enjoyed was the Shinigami's Cup =P |
| yeah same here... but are they really back now? Or is it that they are back just in this filler arc. because I'm kinda confused about that -.- They were just in Hueco Mundo, now back in the real world? Also... wonder where Urahara went |
| Looking to see how this is gonna develop. But, yeah, it was a pretty boring episode. |
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| well despite the terrible terrible transition in to this arc, it was actually an enjoyable episode. everythign was pretty much ok. although you wouldnt imagine that they were all dying only days earlier, and now they are miraculously back ot the real world. |
Pokedude97 said: the Enryuu guy reminds me alot of Armstrong from FMA. LOL! I thought that as well.. Orihime's imagination of "a princess who would toy with Ichigo" was hilarious. |
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| Okay.. so suddenly everyone forgets about the HM stuff and live on further with their school lives >.> It seemed to me in the beginning that this arc was set before the HM arc, but then they still have the powers they had up to now. It's a bit strange, because Uryuu is back to being cold again and Rukia is back to her silly self.. And then you also have Ichigo showing off to the little girl by using his bankai on some mere hollows. That really made me go wtf?! Could consider this episode okay since still a lot has to happen and to be explained, but looking at what happened the past 2 episodes I can only conclude that this arc is going to fail compared to the 'original' plot. But then again.. it's just the 2nd episode so we'll see how it will turn out. |
| Bleach continue to make no sense... -.- They are back to the new world suddenly and then it looks like everyone had forgotten everything about Hueco Mundo. Ichigo using bankai on those hollows too. |
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| This episode was slow. But I guess that's to be expected... They're starting a new arc, and so they have to intro a lot of new characters and set up the plotline. So, as far as a set up episode goes, it was okay. What I'm confused about is where this arc takes place in the timeline... In this episode, we see Ishida with his new bow. But he revealed that on their way into Hueco Mundo. So, it can't really take place in the past...but if it takes place AFTER the HM arcs, then it ruins the whole thing, because you would know everyone survives in the end, and that nothing bad happened. This is quite a connundrum. Anyone have an idea? o_O |
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| The first WTF came from the episode's setting. I mean, how come they are at home with no trace of HM arc? Did they forget everything already? Also another WTF to bankai. He didn't have to use it. He defeated a menos grande at far beginning of the story, and now he can't defeat some normal hollows? Other than these problems, the actual episode was pretty good. It was a good laugh, and that little girl looked hot in high school outfit. Urahara never ceases to amuse me (no im not into loli.) Not the episode i wanted to see, but it wasnT so bad. Major Armstrong FTW! |
DaBigD said: The first WTF came from the episode's setting. I mean, how come they are at home with no trace of HM arc? Did they forget everything already? Also another WTF to bankai. He didn't have to use it. He defeated a menos grande at far beginning of the story, and now he can't defeat some normal hollows? Other than these problems, the actual episode was pretty good. It was a good laugh, and that little girl looked hot in high school outfit. Urahara never ceases to amuse me (no im not into loli.) Not the episode i wanted to see, but it wasnT so bad. Major Armstrong FTW! The girl's face looks like Hitsugaya. |
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| Parallel universe confirmed - someone shoot me! Don't want to sound TOO cruel but both the script writers and the animators have gotten a bit lazy. |
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forlacik said: OK, putting aside whole story, wut happened with animation? It's obviously not worth it to put effort and money into a crappy filler arc. |
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| i was like "eh" when Ichigo used his bankai for somethnig so insignificant. |
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SNDK said: Okay.. so suddenly everyone forgets about the HM stuff and live on further with their school lives >.> It seemed to me in the beginning that this arc was set before the HM arc, but then they still have the powers they had up to now. It's a bit strange, because Uryuu is back to being cold again and Rukia is back to her silly self.. I agree with this: hungry_bunny said: Parallel universe confirmed - someone shoot me! Don't want to sound TOO cruel but both the script writers and the animators have gotten a bit lazy. It is NOT before the HM arc as it shows Ishida with his new bow and Chad with his new arm. I think the alternate universe idea is pretty on the spot. Its not after the HM arc in the manga from what it looks like either. Either way, I kinda hate the random jump to this alt universe. We go from a story that just finished a huge fight and everyone has taken heavy causalities to THIS. And yes, Enryuu is like Armstrong from FMA, except that hes a mime, or he at least refuses to talk and instead uses crude hand gestures. The bad guys (Mr. Monocles and Mr. Ninja Mask) from the outside of Soul Society have yet to be revealed, hopefully we'll see em in 5 eps. I'd also like to say itll be weird jumping back to the HM arc after this... |
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| I think it was an enjoyable episode, of course it will have its cons like ichigo using Bankai, i mean its a filler no one expects it to be good. On the other hand having some of the "old" characters being involved again was refreshing... and zomg!!!! the Mens association was an instant lol (ukitake with that outfit yay!) |
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| ah man guys don´t worry about unneccesary stuff, just enjoy these episodes or wait for the canon eps. Honestly, I loved the whole episode, i think i rofled 4 or 5 times throughout the episode. this filler arc reminds me of the first bleach episodes with the slice of life and school setting. |
| Animation sucked Big time. I think even Tom and jerry had better animation of speech than this shit. Couldn't bear to watch. Story was not that bad though.... I could finish watching it only because I was bored out of my mind.... |
| Not their best. This rough transition left me completely confused. Hope the subsequent episodes clear anything up. |
| I think it wasn't so bad for a filler episode. The men's association meeting at the end was funny xD |
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moggimus said: Ok... I can say that I'm liked the episode am an interested in this filler arc. I agree that it seems odd that all of a sudden they're back in the real world with no explanation, but whatever... I'll just enjoy this for what it is. A couple observations: 1: Well... I REALLY don't want to sound like a male pig but has anyone noticed Orihime's chest got smaller? 2: When Whats-his-name put up the barrier to keep Ichigo out he made some hand motions that looked like symbols. I was like WTF!? What the hell is this, Naruto!? 3: Looks to me like Rukia's face has changed a bit... maybe the eyes? Anyways, looking forward to more... I really don't have a problem with filler, just feels like a "summer break" like all TV shows do. Wasabi said: forlacik said: OK, putting aside whole story, wut happened with animation? It's obviously not worth it to put effort and money into a crappy filler arc. Yay for crappy animation quality! :D Aside from that and a few other gripes I had with the episode, I enjoyed it. Course I want to get back to the Hueco Mundo arc, but its obvious that they're doing this so that they can put more effort into the HM arc... I hope. o.o |
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| It was alright. Nothing really happened. And was it me or does everyone's voice sound different. |
| Well I have to say this really wasnt that bad. As others have said, the only real problem with this is when they decided to start this arc in the middle of another. as they said, just think of it as a seperate story, every episode doesnt have to be in order, theyre not "magically back in the real world", this is just a different story where theyre already there. (perhaps post-HM arc) Anyways as for the episode itself, I have to say it actually made me laugh out loud a few times, like the Hollow Dogpile, Orihime and Rukia's mad drawing skillz, ishida's bugspray bow, "the fabled convienience store!!", ichigo's dad's routine had me rofling this time, as well as .... whats his name, ichigo's friend that always gets ignored, "this is why we hate our hat!", etc etc etc Cons: DB translated that one line as "Meh." /emo Screenshots for lol: |
| Ichigo's dad jumping on the trampoline into his room was pure win. Pointless bankai - Check Thoughtless fighting (ichigos 1at a time method =/ )- Check Funnies - Check Filler - CHECK !!! Not a fan of the whole younger female characters as there often snooty brats that annoy the hell outta me which is the case this time around as well =( Overall not too shabby an episode though, change of pace is nice |
| Hmm... I'm guessing that "The New Captain Shūsuke Amagai arc" is gonna last till 172, then they will probably switch back to HM. Also its probably because the anime is trailing the manga pretty closely and this anime-only arc is giving them time to dish out new chapters or something like that. But I'm still wondering what Urahara's role is in all of this... for one, he is missing, and another is that they are keeping it confidential information. |
| the use of bankai on a bunch of weak hollows makes ichigo looks so weak...yeah over-used bankai and poor animation. but overall, i enjoy seeing everyone back to school again. |
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| Sigh, I would really like to know what the hells going on... I'm really pissed they did this ._. |
Wikipedia said: They are just doing this arc so that they can get further in the manga...The Bount arcs and The New Captain Shūsuke Amagai arc are anime-only arcs that were produced to allow time for Tite Kubo to advance the storyline in the manga. |
| I personally had no problem with this episode. We all knew that we were going to be entering fillers. The anime's caught up the the manga, it's as simple as that. It was either this, or stop airing Bleach for a season. I'll concede that the sudden locale change wasn't handled very well, but shows go back and fill in plot holes all the time. Or maybe this is a flash forward? The animation was a little odd, but not as horrible as everyone's making it out to be. Remember, we just came off an epic fight where I'm sure they had a special team animating the whole thing. People were even saying how Orihime looked wonky, prolly because it was a different set of individuals doing the drawings. It's interesting to see, though, the way the style's changed from the beginning of the show to this point (comparing similar slice-of-life situations). As for Bankai, defeating a Hollow's supposed to be at least somewhat of a chore. Granted, Ichigo isn't a run-of-the-mill shinigami, but a lot of other shinigami have died fighting normal Hollow. Even with his shikai, it isn't necessarily like a stroll through the park. Whether it was to appease fanboys or to try and bring some balance back to the shinigami-Hollow strength (I'm looking in your direction Allen Walker and the Level 1 Akuma...), I was okay with it. Plus, they needed it to advance the plot :P |
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| ok one comment about the bankai making ichigo look weak. who the hell cares. if you had a bankai, can you honestly say you wouldnt use it just because you could? think about that for a sec. and also here's the more logical explanation: they were fighting off 50+ hollow, if his bankai gives him h4x speed, and it meant he could finish them off much faster than with his shikai, doesnt that make alot more sense? |
| it was a decent episode. the animation was decent, i mean there are some horrible animation sequences out there. the transition wasnt done too well but they gave a brief explanation at the beginning of the previous episode. by brief i mean a sentence but they did explain it i believe. i thought the part after the credits was great. "what about Lurichiyo's clothes being so baggy??" "the boss's personal tastes" "He's a maniac" lol that had me cracking up. |
| Ah, hueco mundo was getting damn boring, I'm glad we got some fillers since this stuff is far superior to the actual plot. Finally I can enjoy watching bleach again. moggimus said: 2: When Whats-his-name put up the barrier to keep Ichigo out he made some hand motions that looked like symbols. I was like WTF!? What the hell is this, Naruto!? /me pats Time for you to watch some more series to get some insight into this. Most shounen with ninjutsu or onmyodou or stuff like that generally use handsymbols to activate. This is far from being something Naruto exclusive. I know that's a bad explanation but I do not care to go in depth into this, if someone wants to give a fullscale explanation please knock yourselves out. |
| In my opinion, this was really the best ep i've seen since nell's appearance and definitely among the top 3 filler episodes. Not really based on content but based on "feel". It's like Bleach just "fits" again! |
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| did i miss something? is there actually two ichigo and co.? one at the real world and one at hollow world? they could have at least FILL us in on the fillers...i wouldnt mind them taking a break if they're out of ideas... |
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| Chief. They are relying on people using common sense, for the animes sake. Orihime was rescued, they went home. Normal life has started. It's really not hard to fill in the gaps. |
Fullmetal-Locke said: Chief. They are relying on people using common sense, for the animes sake. Orihime was rescued, they went home. Normal life has started. It's really not hard to fill in the gaps. Not even that. The fillers are just... there. They thought it would be super cool to just stop the HM arc and just stick a completely unrelated filler arc in there just to have the mango advance a bit. The filler arc has nothing to do with the HM arc. It's just a story that was pulled out of Studio Pierrot's ass. We are not meant to question how Ichigo and co got back. They're just there. |
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| not bad for filler but i hope it will be much better! |
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| Being a person who actually went to the movie premiere of the Diamond Dust Rebellion and enjoyed the shonen qualities of Bleach, I truly believe this arc will have nothing to do with the Bleach we have all come to know and love. Doesn't this whole show feel non-Kubo Tite now? It's like they handed the entire concept to KyoAni or something. The worst things about this episode: 3) The obvious tsundere Lurichiyo. 2) Ichigo using his Bankai to defeat such a crappy bunch of hollows. 1) Orihime thinking about S&M. |
Theorys said: I truly believe this arc will have nothing to do with the Bleach we have all come to know and love. Doesn't this whole show feel non-Kubo Tite now? It's like they handed the entire concept to KyoAni or something. i second that, looks more like all the writers went over to concentrate on Naruto... |
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Wasabi said: forlacik said: OK, putting aside whole story, wut happened with animation? It's obviously not worth it to put effort and money into a crappy filler arc. why make a filler arc anyway? why not say "we go on vacation" or "we gonna have a break" |
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moggimus said: A couple observations: 1: Well... I REALLY don't want to sound like a male pig but has anyone noticed Orihime's chest got smaller? 2: When Whats-his-name put up the barrier to keep Ichigo out he made some hand motions that looked like symbols. I was like WTF!? What the hell is this, Naruto!? 3: Looks to me like Rukia's face has changed a bit... maybe the eyes? Yup I also was like "WTF? Naruto?" when that guy did hand signs xD And about Hime's chest and Rukia's face: yup they did change but I think it's because of the crappy filler animation. I pretty much enjoyed the ep, it was funny, a bit slow but quite ok for a filler. Just hope it doesn't turn out so bad like the Bounto arc xD That would kill me T_T |
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| The animation & drawings may not be so clean, but I don't think they are so much worse than any other Bleach episode. Also, Rukia looked more feline like, so she looked sexier to me. |
Peralisc said: They can't make money on a summer break...Wasabi said: forlacik said: OK, putting aside whole story, wut happened with animation? It's obviously not worth it to put effort and money into a crappy filler arc. why make a filler arc anyway? why not say "we go on vacation" or "we gonna have a break" but I have to admit that a mediocre filler arc is better than no Bleach at all. |
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