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May 27, 2008 5:16 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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I can see a rift is forming between Sieg and Reinhard. Sieg is starting to remind me of Yang. A good battlefield commander, but with pacifist tendencies. Reinhard on the other hand looks to be building up some ruthlessness.

Once again Yang faces tough opponents on one side and inept leadership on his side FTL. Admiral Lobos just threw away millions of lives with his last stand strategy. That's not going to go well back home.

I love the music they chose for the battles in this episode.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
May 27, 2008 10:00 AM
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Reading some of your other posts on LotGH, I'll just say you're fairly good at predicting things.

Music gets better as the series goes imo. I didn't really like it at first.

May 27, 2008 2:21 PM
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I hope I'm not too good. I like being surprised by good unexpected events. Some things are just blatant foreshadowing through like ep. 5(?) with Annerose's spiel out of nowhere about her brother possibly losing his way.


EDIT: Double checked, it was ep. 5 with Annerose.
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...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
Jun 11, 2008 2:10 AM
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It's cool to see the technolgy they have. Definitely seeing some faults in Reinhard this episode. As Annerose said, he is dependant, this time on Oberstein though. Which is a waste. They would be fairing much better if Oberstein was commanding Bittenfold's fleet. And, uhh, wow that's a nice red ship you have there, Kircheis.
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Jul 21, 2008 12:59 AM
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What a nice episode. I'm guessing this is the second season, as the animation has improved.
Jul 22, 2008 2:00 PM
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Actually, you're still on the first season. You'll know you hit the second when the OP and ED change.

...even a saint needs a soldier to do the dirty work.
Aug 8, 2008 1:18 PM
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Kind of neat that we got to see some individual dogfights this episode, even if it was impossible to tell what was happening in them.

As expected, Alliance fails because they put an old guy in charge. The military should have a law against aging past 30.
Jan 16, 2009 6:22 AM
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This is more star wars than Star Wars ever was or will be.
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Jul 22, 2009 10:25 PM
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Anyone know the name of the piece of music that plays in the beginning?
Jul 23, 2009 3:30 AM

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vvvpqsw said:
Anyone know the name of the piece of music that plays in the beginning?


Dvorak - Symphony No. 9 "From the New World" - 4th movement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlci-kCEaKE

LOGH made me realize how awesome Dvorak was. You'll hear his 9th Symphony in many points during the series.
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MelloRed said:
vvvpqsw said:
Anyone know the name of the piece of music that plays in the beginning?


Dvorak - Symphony No. 9 "From the New World" - 4th movement

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vlci-kCEaKE

LOGH made me realize how awesome Dvorak was. You'll hear his 9th Symphony in many points during the series.
Thanks!

I know very little of classical music. Maybe LOGH is the opportunity to change that.
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Jul 28, 2009 2:57 AM

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This battle played out really well when compared to the ones where Yang wasn't in command. It's like an intergalactic chess game, and Siegfried seems to be a capable opponent.
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Aug 5, 2009 3:12 PM

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I'm glad to see that Siegfried has a ship of his own, although I had a feeling what color it would have been. Glad to see there's more like Yang out there, Siegfried being one of them. The less casualties the better is preferable to them. Also, thanks MelloRed for finding that piece used during the episode.
Sep 17, 2009 10:41 AM

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Ah ah, nice chapter, the space battle were really breathtaking with the classical music in background.
I didn't get everything and I'm not sure if there's much more too understand, but, oh well, I really enjoyed it anyway.

By the way, the captain (or lieutenant, or wathever he is) who commited suicid, only fleed the battle by commiting this act and leaving his crew all alone.
His crew should have been angry instead of praising him.
Nov 24, 2009 1:03 PM

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That was awesome. The soundtrack is amazing and fits really well.
There was so many battles going on and many different admirals that I was confused at first, but that didn't really matter since so many fleets got destroyed. And I understood most of it. I was surprised that one of the Alliance admirals committed suicide like that, what a cowardly way to go. If he's going to die anyways, he could at least try to fight.

As I expected, the Alliance was pretty much slaughtered.
Jun 16, 2010 4:53 PM

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tainteddonut said:
I can see a rift is forming between Sieg and Reinhard. Sieg is starting to remind me of Yang. A good battlefield commander, but with pacifist tendencies. Reinhard on the other hand looks to be building up some ruthlessness.
I was having the same thoughts. When Reinhard denied help to that one requester I was pretty pleased. It sucks, but if he had sent anyone they would have died, too. I think Yang or even Sieg would have tried to send help, which isn't always the right decision. Reinhard just has to make sure his ruthlessness pays off.

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Jul 18, 2010 8:40 PM
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Great episode, nice to see some starcraft-like action and 1-on-1 fights. Things went to fast so I had to re-watch some parts (fleet number 13 destroying the group that was sending the valkyries and the anti-space mine trick) and some others I said to myself "fuck it, it's not that important".

So far Empire >>>>>> Alliance.

Yang seriously needs to have the same rank as Reinhard because losing ten thousands of solider because of some old random Admiral is just... stupid.

Aug 24, 2010 2:47 PM

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Beatnik said:
This is more star wars than Star Wars ever was or will be.


huh?they're very different shows...you're just being a fanboy


it was a better fight than the first :p...though i didn't get why would they shoot the star lol

also,if this was real life the ships would have melted
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Aug 28, 2010 12:05 AM

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"The goddess of victory is waving her underwear in your faces!" LOL
You see there's no need to wonder where your god is,
Coz he's right here! ...and he's fresh out of mercy.
Aug 28, 2010 6:51 AM

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Beatnik said:
This is more star wars than Star Wars ever was or will be.


huh?they're very different shows...you're just being a fanboy


it was a better fight than the first :p...though i didn't get why would they shoot the star lol

also,if this was real life the ships would have melted

exactly why I lol'd when he said it XD

...rNr...
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Rebels fighting an empire across a galaxy is a genre practically invented by Star Wars, so when this anime comes along decades later, takes the genre, bends it over and rams some awesome-sauce into it, I have to call it like I see it. Even if you guys don't.
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Beatnik said:
Rebels fighting an empire across a galaxy is a genre practically invented by Star Wars, so when this anime comes along decades later, takes the genre, bends it over and rams some awesome-sauce into it, I have to call it like I see it. Even if you guys don't.


Didn't another anime did something similar, Code Geass, Death Note.
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Nov 16, 2010 6:03 PM

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I can honestly say classical music only works for this Anime.
Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone
Mar 3, 2011 2:13 PM
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What an epic battle. The Alliance seems to have a shortage of capable officers. The only good one besides Yang in that whole battle was the guy who sacrificed his flagship to let half his fleet escape, and even that was more good leadership than skill.
Mar 30, 2011 10:00 PM

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Oh wow, unexpectedly intense battle.
Jul 31, 2011 6:19 PM

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Beatnik said:
Rebels fighting an empire across a galaxy is a genre practically invented by Star Wars, so when this anime comes along decades later, takes the genre, bends it over and rams some awesome-sauce into it, I have to call it like I see it. Even if you guys don't.


Didn't another anime did something similar, Code Geass, Death Note.


You just went full retard.
Aug 1, 2011 7:49 PM
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Lots of Action. I feel bad for Yang with all the wankers on his side, but his 13th Fleet looks to be holding up well. Like others have said Reinhard is developing into something ruthless.
Aug 24, 2011 10:02 PM
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This battle was a nice testing ground for Reinhard's admiralty. They each set a performance standard, and battle style, that defines them for the rest of the series.

In the first half...
Reuenthal made the legendary Bucock strategically retreat.
Kircheis forced a quiet surrender, then successfully ambushed Yang.
Kempf was utterly outplayed by Yang.
Bittenfield aggressively beat a tenacious Ulanfu.
Mittermeyer raped his opponent with amazing fleet movements.
Mecklinger, Wahlen, and Lutz all received little attention, but appeared to do well enough.

In the second half, at Amlitzer...
Mittermeyer held up decently against Yang
Bittenfield aggressively beat a second admiral, but overstretched himself against Yang.
Kircheis busted through a mine field to surround Yang, ending the battle.

random thing but the music in this episode was fucking great.
Oct 11, 2011 12:29 PM

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Lobos screwed everything up with his 'fight to the death' strategy. Should have tried to retreat...would have saved many lives.
Dec 12, 2011 5:17 PM

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Holy shit animation jump.
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Apr 13, 2012 10:18 PM

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Dvorak and half of the first season's animation budget make for a pretty good episode.
May 24, 2012 10:00 PM

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Fucking EPIC battle scene. Like Luthimal mentioned, it was cool how this episode established the members of Reinhard's admiralty who will be very important going forward.
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Bittenfeld "Forward! Forward! The goddess of victory is waving her underwear in your face!"
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As soon as Dvorak's music started I knew this was going to be awesome. However I wasn't expecting it ti be this awesome.

I like Reinhard's new attitude and I suppose that even Sieg will suffer from this at some point. Or maybe he's there just to balance his friend, like Yin and Yang. Time will tell.

I feel bad for Yang, always having to obey stupid orders. This time Reinhard had the upper hand because he was free to act as he liked.
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Jul 8, 2013 8:58 PM

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Now this... is what I expected from this series. Freaking Epic!

Looking forward to the aftermath!

5/5
Jul 23, 2013 12:21 AM

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This is star wars! Epic BGM. Sucks that the most useless commander -in- charge, is the one that sits in the safe spot, yeah talking about that old fatass that went for a afternoon nap lol, he can't pay for the lives of the brave fleet of soldiers even if he died 10 times.

I hope Yang can hang on. He's the only one with success.
Sep 11, 2013 11:01 PM

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Holy heck they got messed up there. I wonder what is going to become of the alliance if Yang gets taken in by the empire. Wonder if that fortress can hold at all. Anyways interesting episode although the monitors showing the enemy formation like that is starting to bother me . . .
Dec 1, 2013 8:28 PM

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Finally, a battle worth watching. Although it was a bit chaotic.
Feb 10, 2014 5:01 AM

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That battle went just as well as was expected for Alliance. I'm wondering what kind of BS politicans are pulling in following episode(s) to turn that to "victory".
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"The goddess of victory is waving her underwear in your faces!" LOL

I laughed at that too. So random.

Great episode. I swear this is the first anime I've seen where I want both sides to win. Unfortunately that's impossible. At least Yang managed to put up a decent fight.
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pretty good episode, didnt love it but im looking forword to whats to come

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tofei said:
"The goddess of victory is waving her underwear in your faces!" LOL

I laughed at that too. So random.

Great episode. I swear this is the first anime I've seen where I want both sides to win. Unfortunately that's impossible. At least Yang managed to put up a decent fight.
I want both sides to lose, not yang and reinhard but the corrupt governments that rule them. Of course thats sadly how real governments are so i doubt the show will give us the pleasure of seeing both be toppled. If i had to pick i prefer the alliance to win at the moment.

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Beatnik said:
Rebels fighting an empire across a galaxy is a genre practically invented by Star Wars, so when this anime comes along decades later, takes the genre, bends it over and rams some awesome-sauce into it, I have to call it like I see it. Even if you guys don't.


Didn't another anime did something similar, Code Geass, Death Note.


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I'm gonna be honest, I thought it was boring but the New World Symphony made up for it.

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I can honestly say classical music only works for this Anime.

It works in plenty of anime. It works well here especially, that's all.
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Fujaku said:
tofei said:
"The goddess of victory is waving her underwear in your faces!" LOL

I laughed at that too. So random.

Great episode. I swear this is the first anime I've seen where I want both sides to win. Unfortunately that's impossible. At least Yang managed to put up a decent fight.

Lol yahp that was the best quote ever. I will forever remember it.


Little disappointed in Reinhard's attitude. It would be nice if he could be a little more benevolent...but on the other hand hes still bad ass!!!

Really liking Siegfred!!!
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Epic, just freaking awesome :D

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Didn't another anime did something similar, Code Geass, Death Note.


You just went full retard.

lol
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How the hell am i supposed to remember all these names and titles and whos on which side ffs too many people to keep track of in this show
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Qans said:
How the hell am i supposed to remember all these names and titles and whos on which side ffs too many people to keep track of in this show

Keep on watching.
At the end, those very names will be engraved in your heart forever.
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Qans said:
How the hell am i supposed to remember all these names and titles and whos on which side ffs too many people to keep track of in this show

Keep on watching.
At the end, those very names will be engraved in your heart forever.

I hope so, if my heart has room for 40ish names
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Impressive episode, really love the development that's going on here! Looking forward to see what's next.
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Oh my god....... This episode......... I have no words to describe how great this episode was. That space battle was sooo well executed, every little bit of strategy was perfect. Most amazing battle I've seen in an anime for a while. Everything thing about it was just great, the soundtracks were perfect, the characters reacted and acted just as they should have. This series is like Star Wars but way better. I like that Seig is getting more of his own important role in the battle field. He used to just sit with Reindhart but now both of them are moving up very quickly. The other commanders were also very good on both sides this time as opposed to the incompetent ones earlier in the series. Overall amazing episode.
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