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Jan 25, 2009 12:15 AM
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wow, so Rei was the source of everything. i guess i'm fine with this revelation. don't know how many more twists i can take though.
Jan 25, 2009 12:38 AM
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In a way, I was kinda expecting this, though I thought the whole game had been a hypnosis, and that Yuu would wake up somehow... Anyways, it's a damn shame this series turned out to be a little bit of a cliché
Jan 25, 2009 4:28 AM
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i've always suspected rei, until mitsuki announced herself in the latest chapters for i didnt think there'd be another wolf..
anyhoo is the next chapter the last one? (electrifying conclusion)
Jan 25, 2009 5:40 AM
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iSvart said:
In a way, I was kinda expecting this, though I thought the whole game had been a hypnosis, and that Yuu would wake up somehow... Anyways, it's a damn shame this series turned out to be a little bit of a cliché


Same here, if you check back at the chapters she was killed, i said that she would be the wolf, so no surprise there... When Mitsuki was called the wolf i got confused there, because till then i was sure it would be Rei...
But now i'm glad to know watching films all these years proved that it was not original...
Classic, lose family, humiliated, wants revenge + the most useless + first one(s) to die is usually it!
Jan 25, 2009 6:16 AM
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another twist...but I always believed that she had been kiled to fast...now I know why of that...
Jan 25, 2009 8:45 AM
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Now everything make sense, Rei couldn't have done everything by herself, but of course she knows hypnotism she can easily get all the help she need with that.
Jan 25, 2009 9:00 AM
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oh will there be another twisted? or will the solution end here?
Jan 25, 2009 9:11 AM
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Friendlysoul said:
iSvart said:
In a way, I was kinda expecting this, though I thought the whole game had been a hypnosis, and that Yuu would wake up somehow... Anyways, it's a damn shame this series turned out to be a little bit of a cliché


Same here, if you check back at the chapters she was killed, i said that she would be the wolf, so no surprise there... When Mitsuki was called the wolf i got confused there, because till then i was sure it would be Rei...
But now i'm glad to know watching films all these years proved that it was not original...
Classic, lose family, humiliated, wants revenge + the most useless + first one(s) to die is usually it!


QFT. the revelation as mitsuki really put me off there. should've listened to my instincts the first time around lulz
Jan 25, 2009 12:56 PM
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Cool... can't wait for the next chapter
Jan 25, 2009 1:11 PM
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so cliche... : (

and well, we all knew rei couldnt die that fast. lol *shrugs
Jan 25, 2009 3:44 PM

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I may have been the only one actually surprised here lol.

I mean, I would have suspected her if I hadn't seen her impaled INTO the wall and through the heart with my own eyes.

I guess she was using some powerful velcro to keep herself up there...
Jan 25, 2009 3:57 PM

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I was suspecting her since the very beginning...sad I was actually correct. I really wanted it to be less obvious as Rei. I mean sure, suspect everyone EXCEPT the HYPNOTIST... >_> And the fact that no one saw her get killed gives it away too.

The next chapter is the last? Let's hope it doesnt disappoint!
Bleed for me.

Jan 25, 2009 11:17 PM

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Anyone have any idea what was that present?
Jan 26, 2009 5:25 AM

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Chap 19 = Combo Breaker
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Jan 26, 2009 7:25 AM

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Look like a hair clip.
Jan 26, 2009 7:59 AM

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Well, it looks like thi twist made sense at least. If there are any more though...

Also, I guess I was one of the few not expecting her... ):


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Jan 26, 2009 8:45 AM

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^ Same here.
Although, I was suspicious 'til Mitsuki has been named the Wolf.
But now everything does actually make sense.

So, does anyone know if the next chapter will be the last one?
Jan 26, 2009 12:24 PM

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i'd be less disappointed if it wasn't her. God, I want all three of them to die and let only Hajime survive.
Jan 26, 2009 3:35 PM

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I knew it was Rei since the beggining...they didn't even check her body they only said "she's dead" just like that... are they stupid?? -.-
Awwww what a pity.. I was expectring something a little more... realistic than Hipnose...

Jan 26, 2009 3:42 PM

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I swear, I'm not even following it anymore.

First Haruka. Then Hajime. Then Mitsuki. Now Rei.

IF THEY PLOT TWIST AGAIN, I SWEAR YOU GUYS--
Jan 26, 2009 4:33 PM

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I may have been the only one actually surprised here lol.

I mean, I would have suspected her if I hadn't seen her impaled INTO the wall and through the heart with my own eyes.

I guess she was using some powerful velcro to keep herself up there...

You're not the only one. o; Guess I'm too stupid to figure out these kind of things on my own. But it kind of gets confusing when almost every single character have been announced as the wolf.

How did Rei fake her body? A dummy? body double? Hypnosis? orz

Jan 26, 2009 5:13 PM

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"buwhahahha" I was the mastermind and i'm explaining EVERYTHING
and then this chapter comes..
and repeat first line.
Jan 26, 2009 5:53 PM
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I totally saw the Rei thing coming. From the minute she was all, "I was a hypnotist!" I was suspicious.

That said, I didn't see anything else from this chapter coming.
Jan 26, 2009 6:24 PM

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I knew it. Although the hypnotism didn't factor into any of my guesses and it should have- it was so obvious, looking back.

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Anyone have any idea what was that present?


I was wondering that too. I thought I remember him saying they picked out a new cell for her. That didn't look like a cell phone.
Feb 2, 2009 3:38 PM
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and that's another good manga down the drain...

...really, who didn't fear that was coming? -_-

what a let-down
Feb 4, 2009 5:53 PM

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And I was so certain it was Rei... D:


I knew it.

Needless to say, this manga feels far too much like it is relying on generic formulas.
Feb 11, 2009 6:25 AM

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Even though it was predictable I still like it, because I like Rei♥
Feb 11, 2009 8:00 PM

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Fureiya said:
Even though it was predictable I still like it, because I like Rei♥


Agree'd.
Knew it was coming, but my favorite besides Hajime is Rei.
I hope she just kills Yuu, he's been annoying me since the start.
Feb 13, 2009 12:28 PM

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maykipz said:
Fureiya said:
Even though it was predictable I still like it, because I like Rei♥


Agree'd.
Knew it was coming, but my favorite besides Hajime is Rei.
I hope she just kills Yuu, he's been annoying me since the start.


I agree but I kinda like Yuu, he just needs to stop acting like an idiot. Im just starting to wonder if he was hypnotised to see everyone dead (likewise to everyone else)

(by the way I like your avatar maykipz)
Feb 13, 2009 12:57 PM

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crimsoneyes said:
maykipz said:
Fureiya said:
Even though it was predictable I still like it, because I like Rei♥


Agree'd.
Knew it was coming, but my favorite besides Hajime is Rei.
I hope she just kills Yuu, he's been annoying me since the start.


I agree but I kinda like Yuu, he just needs to stop acting like an idiot. Im just starting to wonder if he was hypnotised to see everyone dead (likewise to everyone else)

(by the way I like your avatar maykipz)


Yuu's not too terrible himself, he just does the dumbest things sometimes.
Uwaa, that's a good point though, although that would be a such a lame ending if they were all still alive, maybe they've all been hypnotized to see the stuff happening and they all think they're the only ones left, who knows, Doubt always seems to have some crazy random twist.
(Thank you, I like yours too, Lelouchhhh~ :3)
Feb 14, 2009 10:00 AM

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maykipz said:
crimsoneyes said:
maykipz said:
Fureiya said:
Even though it was predictable I still like it, because I like Rei♥


Agree'd.
Knew it was coming, but my favorite besides Hajime is Rei.
I hope she just kills Yuu, he's been annoying me since the start.


I agree but I kinda like Yuu, he just needs to stop acting like an idiot. Im just starting to wonder if he was hypnotised to see everyone dead (likewise to everyone else)

(by the way I like your avatar maykipz)


Yuu's not too terrible himself, he just does the dumbest things sometimes.
Uwaa, that's a good point though, although that would be a such a lame ending if they were all still alive, maybe they've all been hypnotized to see the stuff happening and they all think they're the only ones left, who knows, Doubt always seems to have some crazy random twist.
(Thank you, I like yours too, Lelouchhhh~ :3)


True it would make it a bad ending. I just wanna know what happens next. Maybe Yuu will go mad and kill Rei. I dunno why but i kinda want that to happen.
(thank you, lelouch for the win!! <3)
Mar 15, 2009 8:40 AM

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Cliche but still absorbing, I think. Someone can read the sequel chapters just to learn the details or to see a new twist, though there is just one left now.
Mar 19, 2009 3:20 PM

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I find it perplexing that so many people automatically assumed hypnotism was to blame. I guess it's because I took this manga to portray a realistic psycho-killer story. Real hypnotism does not allow people to be controlled, it can't be triggered in an instant, and there's no such thing as psychic waves that can be broadcast. With real hypnotism, the subject has to want to be hypnotized, be open to suggestion, be extremely relaxed and in a quiet environment, and only then can it help someone "reach" themselves and gain control over their own actions. For example, we have a friend of the family who was a very successful therapist for many years and he did often conduct hypnotism sessions, but these were mainly to help people who wanted to quit smoking, quit smoking. Again, these people had full control of themselves and didn't miraculously quit after one session simply due to hypnotism. Have you ever noticed that movies that use hypnotism at the start have the hypnotists reveal at the end that it's not real and the protagonists did everything they did due to a desire to do so? So, call me slow, but I never once assumed hypnotism could be the culprit until it was revealed as such.
May 27, 2009 5:30 PM

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Ahh I knew it! :D Well I knew that Rei was still alive and that she was prob the one... until Mitsuki seemed to be the one and then yeah. :)
Jul 6, 2009 3:48 AM
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"A New Challenger Appears". Not really, but it's funny how some people were praising Mitsuki for being a genius when she was a goddamn puppet.

I think anybody could have seen this coming, because she's a freaking hypnotist.
Sep 1, 2009 5:01 AM

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At least it made sense!


No, no it didn't. Did they even ATTEMPT to explain the source of Rei's crucified body at the beginning of the story? How can that be so quickly and easily duplicated? It's RETARDED. It absolutely buries the story.

Ugh. Okay, Mitsuki being the killer was obvious as early as chapter 8, and I guess they had to spice it up, but come on here...they totally shot themselves in the foot with that last one.
Nov 7, 2009 8:30 PM

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Anyway, the last silly twist is about to be revealed. Possibilities: Rei all along with her hypnotism, or the mist monster from Lost took over Mitsuki's body on the other side of the island last week.


Bummer, I wanted it to be guess number 2.

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Bunch of People said:
At least it made sense!


No, no it didn't. Did they even ATTEMPT to explain the source of Rei's crucified body at the beginning of the story? How can that be so quickly and easily duplicated? It's RETARDED. It absolutely buries the story.


This, I agree with. When Rei did reveal herself (cause it was so damn obvious she would return since the start), I wanted to know how she pulled that off. But the worse part about this chapter would have to be the motive for all this.
Jan 11, 2010 11:41 PM
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Jan 12, 2010 6:14 PM

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totally saw it coming. Rei was the only one with some kind of power.
and that lie excuse given by Mitsuki to kill everyone wasn't convincing at all.. and the "we were buying your birthday gift" thing was very boring |:
this chapter was a bit frustrating |:
May 8, 2010 4:05 AM

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well Rei being the killer was really predictable but I'm glad it turned out this way...
Nov 19, 2012 3:48 AM

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HAHAHAHAHAHA MY GUEsT WAS RIGHT ON THE SPOT!!!!
I KNEW IT FROM THE START THAT EITHER THE CHILDHOOD FRIEND , THE HYPNO GIRL OR BOTH OF THEM WAS THE WOLF BUT WHAT I DIDN'T EXPECT THAT THEY ARE WORKING SEPERATELY.
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So the two most apparent speculations turned out to be true. At the same time. I'm kinda tired of all this at this point so I don't care much anymore, just let Hajime live.
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Called the hypnosis.

Oh, pitiful shadow cloaked in darkness.
Thy actions cause men pain and suffering.
Thy hollow soul drowns in thy sins.
How would you like to see what death is like?
-Enma Ai
Feb 27, 2016 1:14 PM

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Few moments ago I wrote newer trust the innocent looking but truly when the Realistic story throws in the subnatural curveball, the story goes -5 points in my book.

Also why the heck is the MC so goody goody. It would actually be great for his character to see him that he was cheating on his childhood friend or rather, not cheating as they weren't a pair.

I don't feel like reading anymore, especially when characters motives are so pitiful. Well it's only 2 chapters I guess
Mar 22, 2016 2:48 PM

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It's a miracle! She can walk!
Dec 10, 2016 4:26 PM

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HA! I CALLED IT! I FUCKING CALLED IT! The hypnotism hint was so clear from the start.

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Another twist. Can't say that it was really surprising for someone who has seen many movies with a similar narrative to this manga.

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Mar 31, 2023 4:56 AM

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Even that hypnotism theory turned out to be true smh. This is beyond cliche.

To be honest this was always on cards given how they sidelined Rei after the first chapter itself, so nothing much to say on this supposedly "groundbreaking" twist. And to make things worse they didn't even try explaining LOTS of things but fine whatever. Just one more chapter now.
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Are all the parents in this Manga suicidal retards?

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