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Apr 3, 11:57 AM
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Happy for them. Anna though.
Apr 3, 12:22 PM
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So…is the side-quest almost over now? Do we go back to the main story now?
Apr 3, 12:22 PM
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You can see how proud Kinoshita is of Kyo throughout the chapter, that was cute
Apr 3, 4:01 PM
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Remember when this was a romance manga? Those were good times.

Also what is up with this pacing and timing bruh? I mean the last chapter ended with the “cliffhanger” of Pig woman randomly showing up and dragging Yamada away, and then 2 weeks later we get the SAME EXACT “cliffhanger,” they’re just sitting in chairs this time. So now we have to wait 2 more weeks to finally see this little conversation with Yamada and Pig woman, which I bet will end in another random and silly “cliffhanger,” to then be resolved after 2 more weeks, meaning we’d had to wait 8 weeks for this festival to actually result in something that affects Ichikawa and Yamada, if things go this way. I’m sorry but that’s crazy to me.

Someone on another thread somewhere else asked if they were in the minority for finding this arc incredibly boring, and I just want to peacefully echo that I too find this arc incredibly boring and a waste of time. This band subplot has/had gone on for way too long.
Apr 3, 5:29 PM
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I liked seeing Kyotaro act as peacemaker with his sister and her friends. Too bad Yamada was not there to witness! Pigman = bad news, always.
Apr 3, 6:51 PM
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sauragorn10 said:
Remember when this was a romance manga? Those were good times.

Also what is up with this pacing and timing bruh? I mean the last chapter ended with the “cliffhanger” of Pig woman randomly showing up and dragging Yamada away, and then 2 weeks later we get the SAME EXACT “cliffhanger,” they’re just sitting in chairs this time. So now we have to wait 2 more weeks to finally see this little conversation with Yamada and Pig woman, which I bet will end in another random and silly “cliffhanger,” to then be resolved after 2 more weeks, meaning we’d had to wait 8 weeks for this festival to actually result in something that affects Ichikawa and Yamada, if things go this way. I’m sorry but that’s crazy to me.

Someone on another thread somewhere else asked if they were in the minority for finding this arc incredibly boring, and I just want to peacefully echo that I too find this arc incredibly boring and a waste of time. This band subplot has/had gone on for way too long.

Yeah this arc is too boring. I didn't even get cliffhanger,LAMAO.


Apr 4, 7:21 AM
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Remember when this was a romance manga? Those were good times.

Also what is up with this pacing and timing bruh? I mean the last chapter ended with the “cliffhanger” of Pig woman randomly showing up and dragging Yamada away, and then 2 weeks later we get the SAME EXACT “cliffhanger,” they’re just sitting in chairs this time. So now we have to wait 2 more weeks to finally see this little conversation with Yamada and Pig woman, which I bet will end in another random and silly “cliffhanger,” to then be resolved after 2 more weeks, meaning we’d had to wait 8 weeks for this festival to actually result in something that affects Ichikawa and Yamada, if things go this way. I’m sorry but that’s crazy to me.

Someone on another thread somewhere else asked if they were in the minority for finding this arc incredibly boring, and I just want to peacefully echo that I too find this arc incredibly boring and a waste of time. This band subplot has/had gone on for way too long.
@sauragorn10 Man I agree, I don't remember anything relevant happening since episode 158, if anything I rescue from this arc is the comedy and realistic approach behind it, the problem is that it went on too long and I didn't understand the reason why Kyo was so involved with this.

Kyo and Anna were so ignored that it feels out of place and boring, the beach arc handled this well and involved them both giving them some development in the process, but here there is nothing.
Apr 4, 11:20 AM
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sauragorn10 said:
Remember when this was a romance manga? Those were good times.

Also what is up with this pacing and timing bruh? I mean the last chapter ended with the “cliffhanger” of Pig woman randomly showing up and dragging Yamada away, and then 2 weeks later we get the SAME EXACT “cliffhanger,” they’re just sitting in chairs this time. So now we have to wait 2 more weeks to finally see this little conversation with Yamada and Pig woman, which I bet will end in another random and silly “cliffhanger,” to then be resolved after 2 more weeks, meaning we’d had to wait 8 weeks for this festival to actually result in something that affects Ichikawa and Yamada, if things go this way. I’m sorry but that’s crazy to me.

Someone on another thread somewhere else asked if they were in the minority for finding this arc incredibly boring, and I just want to peacefully echo that I too find this arc incredibly boring and a waste of time. This band subplot has/had gone on for way too long.

Yeah this arc is too boring. I didn't even get cliffhanger,LAMAO.
@nhiudv Sorry for the repetitive comments, it wouldn't let me post but I'll stop now haha.

I just reread the manga from chapter 155 and surprisingly I didn't find it boring at all, the focus to secondary in fact, quite little and the drama is silly and treated as such, it's not given seriousness and that's important.

Reading it straight through was much better than reading it biweekly, ichi x Anna's relationship is not affected and they are not ignored as I thought, they are given their space, thoughts and live their day to day lives normally. This manga is slow and its episodes are very short, but it was an enjoyable read as always.

I think a lot of people have this view of “boring” because reading this biweekly has been a torment, but if you read it straight through you don't feel that way. It gives this perspective because of what I mentioned before, short episodes and two episodes per month, I think it's best to give it a few months and read it straight through because if you read it bi-weekly, you're going to get stressed out and not even remember what happened because of the time in which they air.
Apr 4, 12:24 PM
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@nhiudv Sorry for the repetitive comments, it wouldn't let me post but I'll stop now haha.

I just reread the manga from chapter 155 and surprisingly I didn't find it boring at all, the focus to secondary in fact, quite little and the drama is silly and treated as such, it's not given seriousness and that's important.

Reading it straight through was much better than reading it biweekly, ichi x Anna's relationship is not affected and they are not ignored as I thought, they are given their space, thoughts and live their day to day lives normally. This manga is slow and its episodes are very short, but it was an enjoyable read as always.

I think a lot of people have this view of “boring” because reading this biweekly has been a torment, but if you read it straight through you don't feel that way. It gives this perspective because of what I mentioned before, short episodes and two episodes per month, I think it's best to give it a few months and read it straight through because if you read it bi-weekly, you're going to get stressed out and not even remember what happened because of the time in which they air.
@kleb90

Respectfully I disagree. You’re outlining the exact problem I think readers who don’t like this arc are feeling, it’s so silly and out of place with little importance, that why has so much time been devoted to it. Someone made an excellent point on another thread elsewhere, that if one removed this entire arc, it wouldn’t impact the main story whatsoever.

“Kyo and Anna’s relationship isn’t affected,” that’s likely the case in your perspective since their relationship isn’t even the focus right now. Just because they’re “around” does not equate to them actually getting proper focus in advancing the story, which they’ve lacked recently. The writing is not affording them any opportunities to do so. And Ichikawa being randomly invested in this band girldrama functionally has nothing to do with his relationship with Yamada besides discovering some “epiphany” allegedly, that we don’t even know what it is yet. And Yamada has spent half this volume looking anxious and sad. The way the last volume concluded, Norio has barely built on it at all. The main issue here is much more important plot threads like the whole “we can’t meet outside” thing, the KimiOku show, Ichikawa’s exam, and Yamada’s career advancement and her agency have all been sidelined to accommodate this band subplot for no reason.

And frankly, maybe it wouldn’t be “boring” to speedrun the manga, but that doesn’t make it not disappointing and random. Reading it slowly or quickly doesn’t change the fact Norio’s pacing and story direction at the moment is poor overall.
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@kleb90

Respectfully I disagree. You’re outlining the exact problem I think readers who don’t like this arc are feeling, it’s so silly and out of place with little importance, that why has so much time been devoted to it. Someone made an excellent point on another thread elsewhere, that if one removed this entire arc, it wouldn’t impact the main story whatsoever.

“Kyo and Anna’s relationship isn’t affected,” that’s likely the case in your perspective since their relationship isn’t even the focus right now. Just because they’re “around” does not equate to them actually getting proper focus in advancing the story, which they’ve lacked recently. The writing is not affording them any opportunities to do so. And Ichikawa being randomly invested in this band girldrama functionally has nothing to do with his relationship with Yamada besides discovering some “epiphany” allegedly, that we don’t even know what it is yet. And Yamada has spent half this volume looking anxious and sad. The way the last volume concluded, Norio has barely built on it at all. The main issue here is much more important plot threads like the whole “we can’t meet outside” thing, the KimiOku show, Ichikawa’s exam, and Yamada’s career advancement and her agency have all been sidelined to accommodate this band subplot for no reason.

And frankly, maybe it wouldn’t be “boring” to speedrun the manga, but that doesn’t make it not disappointing and random. Reading it slowly or quickly doesn’t change the fact Norio’s pacing and story direction at the moment is poor overall.
@sauragorn10 @sauragorn10 Yamada has been like this since they confessed and made their relationship official, sad expressions, pensive and mood swings, I think it's a slow process to develop and at the moment it's intriguing, this particular arc has not focused on the band's problem as a whole, although it is the anchor point, there are episodes where the main couple talks, where Anna emphasizes and reflects on her work, where Kyo is more aware of Anna's popularity, the theme of Kimi's role and its impact in the future, even he himself feels that she is getting farther and farther away from him, what I'm getting at is that I think the commotion generated by this arc is wrong when it does not focus in its totality this problem of the gang, the main characters are more and more conscious of their future and that is what has been worked here, the gang was built little by little in an unexpected way of course, but it was not only about this in the first place.

What I'm getting at is that the series treats this problem as a worthless nonsense, as what it is and doesn't give it the necessary focus because it's not worth it, on the other hand it develops the secondary characters a bit thanks to this which isn't bad at all. Certainly my only problem is the “epiphany” which I fail to understand and the reason why Kyotaro was so involved, there are 3 episodes left to finish the volume and the way it's going it can be disappointing if this is not solved somehow, I think people's problem is that they don't like the band theme and not the arc in general, because it's pretty decent.

“ The fact that they are “close” doesn't mean they really concentrate properly on advancing the story, something they have been lacking lately” I totally agree with you, but they have become more self aware of their relationship and future on their own, going straight to the real issue and its resolution would be interesting, but first you have to make them aware of the problem to deal with, whatever it is, if this band nonsense makes Kyotaro put his feet on the ground I don't care, but I want him to be more aware of his relationship with Yamada and solve the problems you and I know.

EDIT: The theme of the band and its importance is irrelevant (For now) and as you say, if it is eliminated everything would remain practically the same, I see it more as a way to show us the adult problems from a realistic perspective, not everything is rosy in relationships as painted by Anna and Kyo, the secondary cast also has its problems even in adulthood, however silly they are. It all depends on the next 3 episodes and the “epiphany” we are talking about, at this point I wouldn't say the arc is bad, it's an interesting arc and the band issue will be important or irrelevant once the volume is over, just like the condom of the study camp arc that had great impact at the end when it seemed to be a stupid plot without any apparent sense.
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@sauragorn10 @sauragorn10 Yamada has been like this since they confessed and made their relationship official, sad expressions, pensive and mood swings, I think it's a slow process to develop and at the moment it's intriguing, this particular arc has not focused on the band's problem as a whole, although it is the anchor point, there are episodes where the main couple talks, where Anna emphasizes and reflects on her work, where Kyo is more aware of Anna's popularity, the theme of Kimi's role and its impact in the future, even he himself feels that she is getting farther and farther away from him, what I'm getting at is that I think the commotion generated by this arc is wrong when it does not focus in its totality this problem of the gang, the main characters are more and more conscious of their future and that is what has been worked here, the gang was built little by little in an unexpected way of course, but it was not only about this in the first place.

What I'm getting at is that the series treats this problem as a worthless nonsense, as what it is and doesn't give it the necessary focus because it's not worth it, on the other hand it develops the secondary characters a bit thanks to this which isn't bad at all. Certainly my only problem is the “epiphany” which I fail to understand and the reason why Kyotaro was so involved, there are 3 episodes left to finish the volume and the way it's going it can be disappointing if this is not solved somehow, I think people's problem is that they don't like the band theme and not the arc in general, because it's pretty decent.

“ The fact that they are “close” doesn't mean they really concentrate properly on advancing the story, something they have been lacking lately” I totally agree with you, but they have become more self aware of their relationship and future on their own, going straight to the real issue and its resolution would be interesting, but first you have to make them aware of the problem to deal with, whatever it is, if this band nonsense makes Kyotaro put his feet on the ground I don't care, but I want him to be more aware of his relationship with Yamada and solve the problems you and I know.

EDIT: The theme of the band and its importance is irrelevant (For now) and as you say, if it is eliminated everything would remain practically the same, I see it more as a way to show us the adult problems from a realistic perspective, not everything is rosy in relationships as painted by Anna and Kyo, the secondary cast also has its problems even in adulthood, however silly they are. It all depends on the next 3 episodes and the “epiphany” we are talking about, at this point I wouldn't say the arc is bad, it's an interesting arc and the band issue will be important or irrelevant once the volume is over, just like the condom of the study camp arc that had great impact at the end when it seemed to be a stupid plot without any apparent sense.
@kleb90

Lol that first claim is not accurate. Yamada was happy and bubbly most of the time post confession. The only time she was significantly moody was during the beach study retreat because of the condom, the fight with Moeko, and needing to give Ichikawa space a bit to study. But then they went on a sweet date for a few chapters and then made out at the end of volume 10. Yamada’s recent overall sadness and discomfort began after the flash mob incident which forced her to fake reject Kyotaro and publicly humiliate him to protect their secret relationship, which we have seen since has slowly ate away at her and now has her probably wondering (since Norio hasn’t significantly built on the end of vol. 11 yet) if that was the right decision. I’m sure she desperately wants to stop all this secrecy but look we can’t solve this because the band is getting all the focus right now.

“This particular arc has not focused on the band’s problem as a whole.” Brother, I’m sorry but what manga are you reading? Look, besides the first 3 chapters that had the IchiYama home date, ever since chapter 158, this band breakup has dominated the narrative. Every single chapter since has revolved around Onee, Momo, and the band. You gotta stop acting like Ichikawa and Yamada are hanging out every chapter and somehow having all this super deep but also subtle growth, because it’s simply not true. 158 had a brief awkward phone call before Yamada Papa interrupted and hung up on Kyotaro. 159 they briefly talk in the library about the band and the KimiOku show before Yamada has to leap away because students are around and then she is sad behind Ichikawa as they leave, it’s called “I’m Feeling Lonely.” 160 Yamada talks to Onee and Niko magically appears, Ichikawa isn’t even around. 161 they talk on the phone (wow so engrossing), and Norio just says stuff about Yamada thru narration and doesn’t show any examples. 162 Yamada got hit on by some teacher in the show and then it was that weird interview with the girls and Yamada magically appeared at the end for some gimmicky reason. 163 Ichikawa gets kidnapped by Momo. 164 band nonsense, 165 band nonsense. But I’m supposed to believe all that stuff you said? What you say is happening all the time with Ichikawa and Yamada gets briefly touched on for like 2-3 pages max per chapter, that is simply not good enough.

If you like side character development that’s fine good for you, me personally I don’t care, so to each their own. I’m reading this manga for Ichikawa and Yamada, not Onee, Momo, or people randomly introduced to spoon feed us the plot out of nowhere.

“I think people's problem is that they don't like the band theme and not the arc in general, because it's pretty decent,” no the band theme has been the whole arc so people don’t like the arc since it focuses on the band we’re not invested in nor connected to.

If Norio thinks this band garbage is the best way to make Ichikawa and Yamada more self aware about themselves and their relationship, then fine, that’s her decision, but that doesn’t mean I agree with it. There could’ve been better and more interesting avenues to do this in my personal opinion. That’s my last word about this chapter it is not worth all this jumping through hoops.

EDIT since we’re editing now: I would argue and bet a lot that the vast majority of BokuYaba readers are invested in this series and love it so much not for “realism” but because they like the main couple and want to see their story presented. No offense, but I think you’re confusing “realism” with “being grounded.” BokuYaba certainly is executed in a realistic fashion, with realistic environments, themes, and interactions, but this story is not “realistic” because functionally it would never happen in the real world. Nowadays, no girl like Yamada would ever look at a guy like Ichikawa, there’s a 1 in a million chance it actually worked out. If they dated in the circumstances in the story now, they would’ve broke up already by now in real life.

You talk about uncomfortable adult relationships, and yes those are important, but why should we care about the side character’s adult problems? I want to see the manga acknowledge Ichikawa and Yamada’s adult problems, since me, I already have my own problems lol, and everyone else does too. I don’t know why we need to act like this is so amazing and revolutionary to be bogged down with issues that just don’t matter to us as readers, we have enough of this drama in our own lives. So no, I’m not going to hype up Norio’s depiction of senseless girldrama, sorry.
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@nhiudv Sorry for the repetitive comments, it wouldn't let me post but I'll stop now haha.

I just reread the manga from chapter 155 and surprisingly I didn't find it boring at all, the focus to secondary in fact, quite little and the drama is silly and treated as such, it's not given seriousness and that's important.

Reading it straight through was much better than reading it biweekly, ichi x Anna's relationship is not affected and they are not ignored as I thought, they are given their space, thoughts and live their day to day lives normally. This manga is slow and its episodes are very short, but it was an enjoyable read as always.

I think a lot of people have this view of “boring” because reading this biweekly has been a torment, but if you read it straight through you don't feel that way. It gives this perspective because of what I mentioned before, short episodes and two episodes per month, I think it's best to give it a few months and read it straight through because if you read it bi-weekly, you're going to get stressed out and not even remember what happened because of the time in which they air.
@kleb90 Reading it biweekly. Manga did not get bore till 158/159 for me.


Apr 6, 4:13 PM

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I can't handle this arc anymore, bring back my couple in the spotlight again.


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Seriously, who is who? I don't want this series to write one more chapter over this band and stuff. It's just not working anymore.

Pls put the focus again where it should be.

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